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Mathewrichard99:
Be relevant in life. Be determined, be creative in whatever you do, and don't let your location be a barrier to your growth and progress.

Elon musk was born in South Africa, a South Africa national but due to those brilliancy points noted. He's sitting today with the most powerful man in the world, dinning with powers in a foreign country, inputting ideas that could impact on the Constitution of the greatest country in the world.

He's doing what no naturalized American citizen has ever done in the corridor of America seat of power.

He access Oval office freely without hindrance and discuss with the enigma Trump easily.

Keep your ace up and be consistent at your progress. Soon, you shall sit with kings and queens of foreign lands.

He was born into one of the richest familes in Africa and became a government contractor in the USA from where 90 per cent of his wealth came. Nothing like exceptional creativity or briliance.

PS: You need to brush up your written English. It's horrid.

LordReed:
Wait what has the immigration problem got to do with tariffs?

The clown even linked Fentanyl with tariffs.

JagabanBorgu:
APC don't need to share anything when going against candidates like Obi and Atiku.
The opponents matter in every election and Atiku plus Obi are not just good enough.

If they join forces they will be good enough. But I fear ego and stupidity will not let them do the needful. They will not learn from how APC took power. By joining forces.

tctrills:
I see you have gotten all the answers you wanted to your earlier question and now you are interested in discussing global power play. I am open to discussing my point of view with you but then this is not the place. Hook me up at the right place and we could discuss. Fair enough??

I dont know of any thread, if you do, let me know, it doesnt matter.
How can you say you are annoyed by the cease fire?

So I am sure you were happy with all the talk of forcefully relocating Palestinians away from Gaza.
You are into ethnic cleansing.

How do you sleep at night.
Your heart is black.

I can bet everything that you are a one legged black goat who visits strange places at night.
And that you have a tail.

tctrills:
I am actually annoyed by the cease fire. But then, you are a very disorganized human being. At least, read the topic before commenting. Your parents spent money on your education for a reason.

You are annoyed by peace and you claim to be a follower of the prince of peace. You are an indefatigable bloodthirsty hypocrite and red eyed servant of Shaitan.

Fujiyama:
^^^


Ah

There is problem in this country.

I don't mean it literarily.

tctrills:
You have a very good question. The bible says search and you shall find. If you start a sincere search, I don't care what book you begin with but as long as your intention is to find him, you shall be found

Has your appetite for blood now been satisfied or does the ceasefire in Gaza annoy you?

LordReed:
Dude do you just not read what I write and like us going in circles? I already said I lucid dream. How does that show consciousness is not a function of body and brain?

Do you regard the happenings therein as an illussion or real? Because someone asked what I thought was a pertinent question, as to how you are asleep and at the same time moving around actively.

sonmvayina:
It is that simple...
Just keep the Torah, you will be fine...

One would have thought your views were profound. But your statement that life is about enjoyment betrays you as shallow.

It is better to view the world as a school for the evolution of spiritual consciousness.

sonmvayina:
Do you know the explanation given by the Jews as per the concentration camps ?
They said they were the generation of those Jews who practiced idolatry during the time of David and Solomon. Those who worshipped moloch and passed their children through the fire of moloch(Nergal) and also erected the Arsherah poles and all...whatever you sow, you will reap, death is not an escape...

What are you saying. Jews do not believe in reincarnation.

Secondly, even if they explain it that way it changes nothing. It just amounts to mankind trying as always to explain away the cruelty of the universe.

Thirdly, if you say what you just said in any decent society you would certainly be ostracized.

sonmvayina:
Why did they come?
They would have just continue sleeping with their ancestors...
But they came here,

My friend, the only purpose of life is to enjoy it..

This is shallow.

tctrills:
Read the scriptures and ask him. He is your Father and he wants to teach you.

What scriptures. The Quoran? The Bhagavad Gita?

sonmvayina:
Physical life is temporal...

That does not take away the reality of the pain suffered by those who ensured Nazi concentration camps, or parents who have children born with painful incurable diseases or paralyzed people, people with cancer, leprosy or those who suffer all manner of tragedies in this world.

sonmvayina:
That's what I came to do! I don't know about you.

Then you should keep it to yourself and not try to claim such applies to everyone.

sonmvayina:
We were home...we came here to enjoy life.

Humans are spiritual beings having a human experience.

"Enjoy? ? ?"
I don't know what planet you are living on but it's certainly not this dark Earth that I know.

tctrills:
Hope you realize that it's not God's intention to provide all answers now. But it is sufficient that we believe what has already been revealed that we are pilgrims and foreigners on this earth. And our existence did not begin here.

How do you know God's intentions for heavens sake. A being that exists outside time and space, at the root of all reality, little you knows its mind right. You try.

sonmvayina:
They know...
They only have to remember
Karma is real.
The other option is being an ass, which do you choose?

No problem. I wish you luck as you carry on your life telling each person you see in deep suffering that they deserve it or they chose it. Enjoy.

Jones4190:
What happens to our memories and personality after before birth or after death?

I have no idea. Perhaps after death our energies and memories form a type of cosmic food for a race of aliens who like to eat it, or form viagra for another race of aliens who like to masturbate, who knows?

sonmvayina:
They picked them all...
All they need to do is remember what they need to do to get out of it....the power is within us...

With all due respect I think this is a careless belief system. It is also a belief system which is adopted to soothe your sense of justice because of the evil you see in the world. Addittionally it is actually a very callious, insensitive and disrecpectful belief system - especially to those who are at the receiving end of truly unimaginable suffering.

There are certain levels of suffering which are beyond what you can claim anyone "picked" or that all they need to do is "remember" and they will be extricated. There are people suffering from unimaginable diseases. One day, I say a man lying on the floor outside the mall naked. All his limbs were so badly twisted that they were crumpled behind his back in such a twisted mess that it was rather like looking like spagetthi. When people look upon that kind of suffering, it is so repugnanat that they must come up with an excuse for the universe. In Eastern spiritual thought, the excuse is Karma. That they have done something to deserve that. Please, if you have any loved one who, heaven forbid, experiences such, go ahead and tell them that they deserve it, or that they picked it, and you will understand why I say it is insensitive, callous and disrespectful.

In Western spiritual thought, they speak of original sin, redemption, heaven and hell. I guess I dont need to explain to you how unjust all that is and how nonsensical it is because I dont see you endorsing all that claptrap.

I dont need to go through the whole gammut of human suffering for you to get the point. But to use the Nazi concentration camps as an example will suffice. I dont know how familiar you are with what transpired in those camps. But if you are, you will not dare to say that any soul "picked" such experiences. The Karma people will argue that they "deserve" such experiences as a result of karma, but that too is insensitive. For me, there are two issues (notwithstanding that I like to believe that I accept Karma in general terms) - the two issues are -

1. No one knows it for a fact. Its just another explanation humans have thrown up for the seeming randomness of events in life, but more importantly -

2. I find it obnoxious to subject anyone to a punishment for something that they are not aware of. According to you and those who argue for Karma, we have "forgotten" or there is a "veil" over our mind, etc. This still does not cut it for me for two reasons again -

a. The theory that we have forgotten is another fantastical explanation we have thrown up for what we dont understand. Its pure imagination, there is no proof.

b. The suffering which a soul undergoes while having "forgotten" its crimes is obnoxious and repugnant. Even by earthly laws, we do not punish a lunatic or anyone who does not understand his crime. It is repugnant to put anyone through a punishment the crimes for which they dont know.

LordReed:
That's a losers excuse.

I already told you I can lucid dream so how does that point to consciousness being nondependent on the brain and body?

I said its a start. Start doing those conscious things in your lucid dreams (be specific and intentional - keep what you want to do in your next lucid dream in mind ahead in your waking hours, then do it in the dream).

sonmvayina:
Death is just an illusion.
Life is all that exist..
We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Not the other way round. When we expire, we return to our default state, which is the spiritual state waiting for the next experience.
The main thing I want to say here, is that we picked everything ourselves. Our birthday, parents, level of life hardness, country, siblings etc. we picked everything ourselves, because we believe we can come out tops. But when we leave the spiritual realm for the physical...we forget everything. That is the game. So, the only thing we need to do is REMEMBER.

The aspect of picking everything ourselves is what I doubt. Because there are some kinds of nasty experiences that no one would pick and yet are common.

LordReed:
Stop making excuses and give me the processes.

I have thought about it but it seems to me that no matter what you will still pencil everything down to the brain.

Anyways. If you are game, the next time you find yourself in a dream and are aware that it is a dream, do something definite in the dream, such as attempt to count your fingers or toes, or attempt to hold your hand or leg, or attempt to spell a word or repeat a number you know you will remember when awake. That will be a start. It's just a first step though, in a long journey.

TheDevilsBride:
You do sound jaded, lol. But I get you, and fully empathize with you. Nonetheless, I'd simply argue that the impasse here might not necessarily lie with skeptics' inability to grasp your logic, but instead with the inherent complexity and subjectivity of existentialist questions in general, so you can't fault us for asking for proof all the time, lol.

I entirely agree, and dont get me wrong, I am a huge skeptic myself. Most think I am athiest but I am really agnostic. Give me a million atheists and skeptics over the religionists anyday anytime.

TheDevilsBride:
Perhaps you're right. But absent any evidence, I don't suppose anyone here is obliged to take you seriously.

No one owes me sh.it my dear. That much I accept.

TheDevilsBride:
I'm sorry, just a little curious, but why do you think, you can't convince most skeptics, with your propositions, "however logical"?

TheDevilsBride:
I'm sorry, just a little curious, but why do you think, you can't convince most skeptics, with your propositions, "however logical"?

I have been on this forum for 16 years. This is not my usual profile. This is -

https://www.nairaland.com/deepsight

Believe me, there is almost nothing we have not discussed and no angle we have not explored over the years. It is rare to come across any adult who changes thier mind on existential matters.

Here, is perhaps a summary of my thinking.

https://www.nairaland.com/404066/essentials-deism

TheDevilsBride:
I don't believe. I don't think we can have access to any such information at the moment, and I'm skeptical of people that think they do.

I also dont believe anyone knows what happens at death, and if anything happens at all, it could be as varied as reincarnation or the harvesting of our energies as food for some strange extra terrestial entities.

However, that we are more than physical alone seems to me apparent to the reflective mind.

TheDevilsBride:
I'm sorry but you lost me here. This machinery you've alluded to seems more like a placeholder, a needless deus ex machina, that you've conjured out of thin air, to explain the inexplicable, without providing any actual explanation to quell any skepticism.

Touche, @ "deus ex machina" - nice one.
I'm afraid I dont think anything I say - however logical - can convince most skeptics.

That's see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil.

Will say the middle is the woman because women can talk and see well but are generally deaf.

LordReed:
Are you going to show me a process I can investigate and explore that shows that consciousness is not a product of brain and body?

You will have to be ready to explore processes which you have blocked your mind to, and once your mind is blocked to those processes, they automatically become impossible to you, beacause they work with certain astral, mental and thought frequencies as well. Those processes include certain kinds of meditation, lucid dreaming, astral travel and out of body experiences.

LordReed:
Not going to go in circles, this has been asked and answered.

When are you going to show me a process I can investigate and explore that shows that consciousness is not a product of brain and body? If you cannot answer this question then there's nothing further to discuss.

Oh it is partly, but the evidence shows that (1) it is not the entirety and (2) the physical is a conveyor tool for it, not the origin of it.

Wrong. It has nothing to do with it because we are discussing my existence. I came about by the human reproductive process I already laid out which is of course occurring far past when the sexes emerged. Besides not know how the sexes evolved doesn't show in anyway that consciousness is not a product of brain and body.

Its relevance arose from your claim to know all there is to the sexual process of your birth.

Stilloracle:
Tinubu is too slow in handling these eccentric salty losers for my liking. I know he's a master strategist and has strong foot soldiers but he is not instilling any form of respect and fear in these guys. They used to be scared of him even when he wasn't president but after 1 yr in office and he didn't deal with any of them , they now see him as weak.
These are ex political office holders and definitely have skeletons in their pockets. Deal with them

You want Tinubu to be a tyrant right? You want him to hush everyone and inspire fear right?