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designking:
This is media stunt to bring back subsidy. They are blackmailing Dangote refinery to solidify their claims for re-introduction of petrol subsidy.

Dangote never said he can meet Nigeria 100% petrol need this year. The refinery is operating at about 50% capacity and we all know that.

If it is operating at 50 percent capacity the ln it should be producing 25m litres daily but it is not doing so.


This recent near total subsidy removal has allowed some depots owners to bring in products t their depots



That has caused a glut driven by low purchasing power hence the continuous drop in depot prices ..
Just from last week Friday to yesterday more than 10 naira has been sliced by depot owners and more vessels are docked waiting to discharge

Gboss247:
Prices are coming down because of NNPCL illegal subsidy to give marketers a very high profits. Imagine importing a litre of petrol at N1,300 when dollar is N1,700 max and depot price is below the landing cost? It takes foolish to believe that it is not subsidized.

Why is imported AGO,without 'illegal subsidy " cheaper than his own and of better density than his own that is of DPK density range ...why? Or your reckoning is that it is only imported PMS that is cheaper


There is deregulation. Prices that NNPC issues are for their own imported or locally sourced products . It has nothing to do with a blanket price regime for the market .


There is no longer subsidy for anyone who chose to import

Again , hyperventilate on what you know and understand....NNPC does not grant subsidy to depots who chose to import on their own



You only enjoy discount when you buy from NNPC

Presently depots have taken advantage of the price adjustment by NNPC,who is the major player , to import

johnayo01:
Bro.....

Subsidy can make the price of imported goods to be cheaper than locally produced goods

Tariffs and regulations can make price of locally produced goods to be more expensive than the imported ones.

Dangote is not bigger than our government to dictate how things will go, the government should be the ones to answer that question " why are imported fuel cheaper than locally refined fuel"

Why is the Dangote refinery not meeting it own target of 25m litres daily production and expects to be the sole supplier to the market.

CodeTemplarr:
Lol. I am with Dangote on this. You cannot import and regulate your rivals while grounding the local refineries. These idiotic fellas representing the state, they dont care about the state welfare and are ready to crash the whole system just to become 'something' in life.

Why is It so hard for some of you to understand that Dangote is not working for your good


How is It that imported products are cheaper than his locally refined products




How come prices are coming down every day at the depots since these guys imported the products

tunwumi:
If Dangote is not a dubious business this foreign fuel importer should die a natural death.

DRL is not paying transportation cost like this company. They shouldn't be able to operate if DRL is not thinking as a monopolists

Shey he told us that he will export the products if we don't patronise him .



Why is he now complaining of low sales and business jeopardy..he should export and give us our tax now !

TruthU87:
Senior Israeli army commander killed in Gaza while leading genocidal offensive in Jabalia

HE went ahead to rekill haniyel, Nasrallah,Sinwar and Ebrahim Ramosi so that their spirits will be headless

CodeTemplarr:
I get the impression the marketers are blackmailing refiners (with hope of NNPC stepping in and pressuring refiners or subsidizing) into selling petrol at below intl cost.
If they are not eyeing smuggling across borders i see no reason to be crying more than the bereaved(the poor masses). Their job is to buy and resell at a profit and not to push for lower prices for final consumers around west africa and in Nigeria.

Speak on what you know and understand.



As we write here , prices are coming down at the depots as a result of this import.


If we allow Dangote only you are going to buy pms at prices you will never believe

Pray Bua refinery comes online ...that is somebody that does business with conscience

kelvyn7:


I thought as much...cos no light for over 12hrs

Had light through the night till the normal hours that they normally switch it off to cool

Botragelad:
😭😂

Bro, the first image with a Mossad watermark,is it that of Nasrallah?

Fineman2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWqLyVF2vAU?si=HQ8WdCdvaIZ33QLg

Last night wizkid and Davido were in the same club but wizkid no send anybody. Wizkid walking past Davido confidently with his boys while Davido was stuck to his chair scared.

. Scared but Littlekid left immediately he got wind of davido's presence in the club



David 4 use am do doorbell

MadPolitician:
These sort of humiliations will stiffen resolves around ordinary Arab people.
Isreal will win these battles, but I'm not sure this will guarantee a safe Jewish homeland for Isrealis in the future.

It was the Iran vs Iraq wars and the US invasion of iraq, that led the mullahs in Iran to heavily modernise their military. Today, America thinks twice before engaging Iran.

Many Arab groups might follow that route after these flamboyant military displays and annihilation by the Isreali army, and that will ultimately change the dynamics of the middle east conflicts in the future.

Save your epistle


It will take a aeons for anything like hamas or hezbollah to grow up again near Israel



IDF already it clear that they have removed the forest but mowing of the lawn will be indefinite.... Anytime a missile comes from Gaza, it is geolocated and the mowing machines are delivered to eradicated the weeds



This is indefinite

BlocksNG:
This is just the beginning, no mercy for the generations of Ishmael, Isreal na your papa mate?

Israel bankrupts Iran biggest military investment simultaneously


Taking over Rafah was the clincher... No underground tunnel to escape into Egypt anymore... Total blockade

directonpc:
Wizkid is richer than him

He is richer than Wizkid entire lineage rolled together.


Wizkid papa no fit enter where this man sit down unless Dem come tell am say Wizkid the musician papa dey outside dey wait to see you

Krismas:
Wots the point going round and round circles? No further need for this argument.
Thanks and bye

There is no round and round


You stated that Iran ballistic missiles doesn't use fuel. Once fire from Iran it travels to target... But it has a propulsion engine that burns blue flames from behind.. What is responsible


You told a lie that Houthi uses 2k missiles in their 'red sea operation " without providing a link








The same you stated the US produces just a single missile per month without a link to verify your submissions


. You are the same one that says the fighting in the North is within Isreali territories... Never knew the so-called radwan forces had their base in Isreal



The same you without submitting the video link you claim to have watched that Iran stated that they fired 200 ballistic missiles but you have gone round submitting the one copied from Isreal by different World medias


I gave you a singke link that says the Iranian didn't released a statement that includes the numbers of missiles but you disputed that you have video evidence without providing the link

KingEarnest:
What is the situation of light in your area now. Has light been restored?

Just got restored some hour ago

Krismas:
Hilarious!
Road millage? You using road millage for ballistic missiles? And you call me ignorant?
I can bet you have no clue why rockets need to carry fuel in the first place! U think fuel is to drive the rocket, the way cars are driven?
Then u can’t evade this 200missiles debacle!
I have just given you back your Mehr news, quoting Iran TV that 200missiles where fired and not 400 AS U LIED.
Do we now agree it was 200? So we can proceed on this debate.

Al. Kinds of fuels is for engines combustion that propels movement and the faster the rate of combustion the faster the travel time.....




Now. Do you ahree that ballistic missiles use engine that needs fuels because even your own articles tells us that Iran uses 3 variants of their ballistic missile that all uses fuel..... Do you agree with your own random expert or not

Krismas:
Sorry I left out the part on missile accuracy. Am turning to ur favorite Mehr news once more. The first link I included b4 said its 80% accuracy.
This second link, say it’s 90%.

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/222300/Which-missiles-Iran-used-in-its-retaliatory-attack-on-Israel

So, even Mehr can talk from both sides of their tongue?
Therefore looking up many news sources and coming to a more robust point of view is better.

80 and 90 percent of which figure?

The official one from Isreal, the target of the strike or the unofficial but permitted figure coming from Iran?


Post a simple link that points at an Iranian official giving figures and then you win.

Mehr News says the press release from Iran didn't give figure but from sources within the media, they stayed 400 some of which misfire, no doubt, didn't get to Isreal or exploded mid air






You have not not provided your sources for ballistic missiles been able to fly without needing engines or fuel of any kind




You have not provided a single sources that says the US produces a singke missiles per month and 12 per year



You are to explain how 300k dollars is able to build a ballistic missiles with guidance system that travelled over a 1000 kilometres to Isreal



You are to provide link to prove that Houthi missiles in the 'red sea operation" cost a mere 2k dollars


You are yet to provide link of a cloud covering technology that Russia would badly need to cover some of the things they have described as mere smokes from falling debris but turned out to be an obliteration of their 'nuclear proof" arms depot



No evidence of 90 percent success in Iran hit as the world can see still Nevatim base been used to launch strike in gaza just yesterday.


If there was 90 percent success, what did it target and what is the proof

Krismas:
I am more interested in establishing Iran fired about 200missiles for now. So any link am posting is primarily geared towards dat. The reason for this will stand clear to you soon enough.
As for liquid fuel or no solid fuel, I really don’t get wot point you are making! It’s my believe that you are confusing ballistic missiles Iran fired with rockets needed to go to moon? Iran’s ballistics don’t need to carry fuel! The distance is not much. Wot is required is just the initial launch in Tehran, whether it was with solid fuel, liquid or even gaseous fuel projection. Or what are you getting at?
Coming back to 200balistics fired by Iran, even the Mehr news agency you keep harping on is telling me now, that it was 200balistics iran fired!

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/222273/Iran-reportedly-launches-missiles-at-Israeli-regime

How does that make you feel? Or wot other excuse do you have now? Why will you say only one news source is enough for you on any matter? And the so called Mehr news is a semi-official, meaning it’s probably co-owned.

Oga, you sent me a link to New Arab media and I screenedshit and showed you that ballistic missiles that Iran fired uses liquid fuel. Iran used three variants as shown in your own submitted link and two uses liquid fuel and please stop advertising your ignorance of balistic missiles don't need fuels of any kind because they are flying for just a short distance and by the way, the distance between Isreal and Iran is over a thousand.



Ballistic missiles are propelled by engines... I thought you would have noticed the engine in one of them thy was intercepted.

The saheed 3 which is called hypersonic and equally used by Iran has it fuel compartment extended for a longer flight.

In road haulage, each kilometer requires a litre of AGO, if you take it as a kind of example it means that the minimum fuel required for the balistic missiles cannot be was than 1500 gallons or litres because it burns faster dues to it speed.. It cover over a 4hiusand kilometers between both counties in 12 or less minutes


The point is that you quoted figure for the attack is not correct.


Then your 95 percent success rate is disputed by your own submitted article from new Arab or some thing which explains why Israel shot down majority of the missiles which I am compelled to belive because Nevatim base is still operational and used even yesterday

Krismas:
Wot you forgot is to include another source that agrees with your horrible 400missiles Lie.
I will include two more sources that it was less than 200missiles.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70w1j0l488o

And

https://www.newarab.com/news/what-missiles-did-iran-use-its-attack-israel

As for the specifics of Iran’s ballistic missiles, I suggest u ask Iran how they lower their cost of producing them and not some random experts, who only know how to spend millions to make one single missile.
U ask for the cost of its liquid fuel? How do u know it’s propelled by liquid fuel?
Iran make cheap missiles OR, America OVERINFLATE the cost of their missiles.
This are well known facts

I do not need to provide many sources since I am quoting Iran government owned news outlet that must have received clearance from them to quite the figure.... Google Mehr News Agency.... It is based in Tehran and funded by the Iranian government




Now to your links.... The BBC that you gave is quoting Isreal and not Iran...... "The IDF said..." not Iran said


To disprove Mehr news agency you need to produce that video that you claimed to have watched... Just post the link... Every news agency in the West is quoting Isreal not Iran but in Iran the media there that is heavily regulated is saying 400 to their people.



To get to the root of the matter, since you already watched the IRGC spokesperson mention, 200 and 95 percent success.. Post the link not the video... I will proceed to watch it.... Jut the link




Another thing, while you discredit my links as coming from random expert you ado went and Brough another link from another random expert even authenticating my submission..... May he you have comprehension challenge but your new Arab links says that Iran used three variants of theor so called hypersonic missiles and the link and expert you favour says that the fuels for two of them is liquid fuel


I don't know if that didn't register to you before you used t as your bulwark




Then your links didn't support even 90 percent but gave reasons why Isreal shot down the majority of the balistic missiles and went on to explain what Iran might means by retaliating for any future Isreali strike


Now, can you post the links that says the US produces a single missiles per month



Then the cost of Houthi rebels precision missiles in the red sea operarion that you out at 2k dollar

Krismas:
I gave you 3 sources of News about the incident 180missiles at 90% accuracy
1. Times of Israel
2. Al jazaara
3. Al Mayadeen

I dare you to give me another source that agrees with your 400missiles.

As for missile cost, I have already corrected myself. It is the Houthi missiles in the Red Sea operations that are costed at 2000USD, not this Iranian ballistic missile. Nevertheless it is not as expensive as the over 500million USD estimate in your picture. Total cost of the 180 plus launch is not more than 60million USD. Which is why Israel and America cannot compete in missiles with Iran.

The other two sources are taking their figures not from Iran but from Isreal




Their authority on number is Isreal not Iran.


Iran didn't put figure and you that claimed to have found a video of the spokesperson giving the exact figure can't post the link that appears in your browser


Now taking your own figure of 60m dollars as the cost of 180 ballistic missiles with guided missile technology, it means that each one cost 330,000 dollar.


Now, how much is just the jet engine and how many litres of aviation fuel does it contain?


Even if it contain just gun powder, for a 40ft long barrel, how much would it cost to fill it up with the powder


I hope you saw the jet engine propelling it from one of the images I posted ?


Iran, once again, did not give figure when they addressed the press, they only said they achieved 90 percent and not 95 percent penetration



Again, post the link to that video when the man statement supports your prognosis



By the way, you are yet to substantiate your claim that US that is sending interceptor missiles to Ukraine and NATO members manufactures just one per month


I did not see where you corrected yourself about Iran ballistic missile costing 2k dollars and as for your change of guard to Houthi, I want to remind you that you didn't quote the sources of your 2000 dollars for Houthi missiles in red sea operation making your assertion inconsequential.



Post reference


This is the specification of the ballistic missile

Krismas:
All u do is argue BLINDLY.
How on earth is any Iranian media aside Press Tv state sponsored media?
Go on Press Tv and see whether you will be able to substantiate your 400missiles LIES you are insisting upon.
Also, I gave you an Israeli media quoting the Iranians that it was 180 with 90% accuracy, you pretended as though u did not see it?
I will just add one more to this argument, namely the cost of the missiles. How on earth can you quote America and Israel on Iranian missiles? A post on press Tv put the total cost of true promise 2 at 40-60million USD as against the stupid estimates in your picture. We have to get over this issue first, b4 any other thing

The bolded was not a quote but a statement of fact if Isreal account....

IRGC never gave a figure.... Mehr news that was there when he gave a press stake t said so..... They said from sources within their media, Iran fired 400.



If you want to disprove this, post a link or screenshot of the Iranians official stating the figure


What landed in isreal and is now the official quatabke figure is 180 not what Iran fired



Some of the missiles was said to have exploded while been fired and killed the artillery men

The IRGC claimed that 90 percent of the [b]180 ballistic missiles it fired [/b]toward Israel hit their intended targets, which it said were three military bases around the Tel Aviv area




So the Israeli and US figure for a precision ballistic missiles is not correct but Isreal figure of the numbers of ballistic missiles that it countered in her territory is your only source for proving that iran fired 180 or 200 but Iran owned Mehr news agency that you can verify it ownership online and expressly told you that IRGC spokesperson didn't give figures of numbers fired in his press statement though you claim you saw a video of him saying they fired 180 but don't know how to POST THE VIDEO OR LINK TO IT here


THIS media out told you that from sources that they fired 400 ballistic missiles



Now you also claimed to know that the US produces just a single interceptor per month and 12 per year without link to such article or you are the source of the information.




You have not backed up your claim that Hezbollah missiles causes iron dome to run out of missiles as what happened afterward... Did Hezbollah run out of rockets as well or they destroyed open spaces



Even this evening iron dome is still in operation but just give link so I can know when this happened and how hezbollah took advantage of the situation


This is what in your thinking cost 2000 dollars to produce and launch with a jet engine.

Even if it was filled with sand or granites

Krismas:
If u trust the IDF that much, why not let’s bet 200k each on it?
IDF will not be able to enter Beirut by 3rd of October. 200k to the winner of the bet! Wot do u say?

IDF never said anywhere they were going to Beirut.

They said, " localised and limited operation"

Krismas:
It’s obvious u didn’t read the link to the end. Cos it quoted an IRGC saying we shot 180 missiles with 90% accuracy. Just search for 90% at the end of the article and zero in on what I wanted u to read.
The commander who said 200 missiles at 95% accuracy was a video I saw. I don’t know how to get the link. Equally the so called Iranian media u are quoting is WRONG. Their number is fake news.
As for America, they fired just 12 interceptor missiles. And I don’t think they intercepted anything really, cos they would have released bragging videos, if they had.
I saw many of their brag videos in April wen Iran fired slow drones at Israel.
Making missiles is very expensive for America, so, they make one per month.
12 they fired was a whole year production.
Whereas Iran missiles cost $2thousand, America use $2million to make similar missile. Which is why hezbollah easily emptys Israeli Iron Dome. Israel struggles to get missiles for their iron dome.

The way I was taught in the university to write articles called term papers is that when you quote figures you give links to verify or authenticate your assertions



Please Provide links to authenticate your claims that


1. America makes 1 interceptor missiles per month and 12 pieces a year


2. That a ballistic missile that can cover 7000 km and equipped with guidance tech cost Iran 2000 dollars.... What is the cost of the empty shell of the ballistic missiles...few Pennies, I guise


3. A quote comes with with quotation marks..like at the start of a quoted message and at the end “ telling you that they are directly restating somebody. There is none where 180 was mentioned... Isreal was accounting for what they counted withing their territories and not what was fired.... Since you don't have proof for your claims, then you cannot be fault an Iranian funded media outlet for their count from their country... Until you have support for your prognosis, you are only clapping with one hand



4. You stated that Hezbollah exhausted Israel's iron dome intercept missiles... Give the date that happened and the catastrophic event that followed... I am very sure the idea of Hezbollah is not to exhaust missiles but 5o cause damages that can be verified from satellite images



You can rewrite your rejoiner with links to facts... I don't deal with preposterous assumptions for assumptions are the lowest form of knowledge


Let me help you with some examples so you understand what I'm driving at

Krismas:
U don’t need October to know. This is a repetition of 2006 war btw Israel and Hezbollah.
Israel will never be able to enter Lebanon

By the end of October, it is just weeks.


I still remember a guy in a hood made a video back then after October 7 attack and promised hellfire if Isreal ventured into Gaza.


They are not just in gaza but locating tunnels, ward by ward, unit by unit including those crossing into Egypt.... In addition, they have turned Gaza into a refuge dumpster and still continuing.



By 3nd of October we will know who is where

Krismas:
Here is one link. But it says 180 missiles wit 90% accuracy.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/celebrations-erupt-on-the-streets-of-iran-as-irgc-hails-missile-attack-against-israel/

Link to the Iranian IRGC spokesperson saying they fired 200 BALLISTIC MISSILES and achieved 95 per cent success




This link says what Isreal recorded and not what Iran fired.


Media in Iran and owned by Iranian government say they fired 400 and achieved 90 per cent penerstion which means 360 ballistic missiles hit their intended target



What I want is a press release where they man said they fired 200 BALLISTIC MISSILES


I gave you a link to what their own Mehr news agency was reporting and you claim to have a superior information.


Isreal acxukt didn't consider the dozen ballistic missile shot down by the US as they flew over Iraq nor the one that fell on their way


Post the link where the man said they fired 200 BALLISTIC MISSILES


By the way, there is no where it was stated in this report that it achieved 90 percent success

Krismas:
Israel does not have enough shells to turn Lebanon to Gaza. Israel did not destroy gaza with artillery shells to begin with. What they have is bombs and yes, they can destroy Lebanon. But so too can hezbollah destroy Israel.
As for firing on UN peacekeepers, it’s at point blank range with tanks.
Then one interesting picture you included. Those two killed in Israel, the rockets Hezbollah launched dat did that damage, was FIRED RIGHT ON THE SPOT WERE IDF PLANTED THE FLAG AT Maroun Al Ras
It was just a message. U can take no inch of our land.
Hezbollah has pushed IDF outside Lebanon and the fighting is now happening inside Israeli village Al Aramshe. The blue arrow is the borderline. The red spot is the new fight location

In summary, Hezbollah has invaded Israel from the North, na?



Oshe

By October end we will know where the fight and the border line is

Krismas:
u are dreaming. Iran news media can mean NOTHING! Which Iran news media? Press Tv? Or which? Iran fired 200 ballistic missiles and achieved 95% success rate. That’s what the IRGC spox said.
And Israel itself put the Iran missiles at 180, so I don’t know where u are getting 400 from

Link to the spoke Person saying it fired 200 and achieved 95 percent success rate

Racoon:
It it interesting to know that all these seemly inconsequential sensors on the aircraft are extremely important in the operational process of these flying machines.

It is only in Nigeria that your mechanic will yanked off a parts and tell you.. 3 no dey work anything....

Krismas:
Complete LIES.
I encourage you to keep up with the news.
At the end of it all, you will finally understand how absolutely fake the Israeli government is.
If I can find one of the pictures IDF posted of recovering weapons and a Jeep from Hezbollah, I will show it to you.
They completely forgot to remove the Hebrew plate number on the Jeep they claimed belonged to Hezbollah! Plus the guns they were displaying were Israeli made gun Uzi. Hezbollah use AK47 not Uzi!
IDF is Israel deception force. Believe them at your own peril

Even from their position they are able to fire long-range shells into Lebanon... They won't need to even enter again


In the next one month, at this rate, southern Lebanon will be Gazified completely from their position on the fence between Lebanon and Isreal


Baddest!

Krismas:
you sail Iran fired 400 ballistic missiles. No
Iran fired 200 ballistic missile

Mehr News agency is Iran version of NTA, on of their propaganda outfit and it says 400 and over 90 percent success


You know more than Iran news media?

Krismas:
I told u b4, only satellite images for Nevatim base is available. Which is wot ur picture show. With yellow spots to indicate the places Iranian missiles struck. This does not mean Iran didn’t strike other bases still cloud covered by Israel. Bases like The Nevatim, Hatzarim, Tel Nof, Netzarim and Glilot bases. If you probe further, you will find expert analysis on that satellite image you attached. I have seen and listened to several of it. You can do same. I am reluctant to do it for u!
Bottom line Israel lost at least 8
F-35 fighter jets in those strikes.

Israeli soldiers met with Irish troops under the UN inside Lebanon, Please explain how this happened


Was it after this meeting that they ran back to their position within Isreal or they went far into southern Lebanon

Krismas:
U are the one, who needs to practice what u preaching. How many satellite images have YOU viewed on the Israeli bases struck by Iran and Hezbollah? I have viewed countless! And point of correct, a base canbe CLOUD COVERED. The only satellite images you will find are the ones for Navatim base, which was struck 32times by Iran. Including a direct hit to only one aircraft hanger. The rest base are kept under the cloud with serous media censorship.
Iran never fired 400 ballistic missiles at Israel with 90% success at anytime. U have to stop LYING. In April, Iran fired 300 projectiles, including drones, cruise and only 9balistics. And those 9, were the actual missiles Iran intended to fire. The rest were feints, most of them, carrying no explosives at all and serving only to confuse air defense systems. This October, Iran fired 200balistics and achieved 95% success. So, where did you see 400?
Israel is the one LYING. All they have been doing in Lebanon is bombing civilians and civilian infrastructure like hospitals. They have not succeeded with incursion into Lebanon. The town they planted flag, Maroun Al Ras is just 400meters from the border and as soon as they planted the flag and took pictures, they uprooted it and ran back to their side of the border under heavy fire from Hezbollah. Everything Israel do, is just for publicity. They have no hold on any Lebanese territory and no war is ever won from the air alone. Bombing Lebanon cannot save Israel.

This is video of IDF inside Lebanon


Many photos of them "planting flags, uprootinf them and running away"


In a month time, we will know who is the boss.... We will measure who is occupying whose territories and the length


Meanwhile this is from our boys from their yesterday's activities


https://videoidf.azureedge.net/1fda7ca9-516b-4b33-ba73-5ba90f69364d