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SportsRe: Nba Season '08/09 by ThugsRUs: 5:41pm On Dec 10, 2008
lai-lai:
@A-40
kings beating lakers is more shocking than wizards beating pistons
lakers still lack total conentration, terrible game

that spurs mavs one could hav gone either way, neither team wanted to give up, i'm sure both mavs and spurs will rise well in d standings later on
magis do have some sharp 3pt shooters around D12, they came good today while D12 was below par
But his team still beat a formidable Portland team on the road, why? Because, unlike Dork, D12 can bring more to the table when his shot is not falling. Just because Howards stat sheet wasn't impressive doesn't mean he didn't impact his team in other ways.
SportsRe: Nba Season '08/09 by ThugsRUs: 5:05pm On Dec 10, 2008
bawomolo:
nah it's the cheap bolivian weed sharon is supplying me.  he dropped 35 pts and gave up an equal amount on the defensive end.  if yall need some inside toughness we could always send joking noah to the mavericks for a couple of picks  cool
That team is done. They should've kept Harris. Trading him for an aging Kidd was one of the dumbest trades in recent memory. Now it's coming to haunt them. Is it a coincidence that Mavs began to regress every year since the trade?

While Dwight Howards team is 17-5, getting better every year, NoWINski's team is regressing ever since the subliminal chokejob in the Finals.
SportsRe: Nba Season '08/09 by ThugsRUs: 4:39pm On Dec 10, 2008
lai-lai:
so lebron does not have a jumpshot and u disagree with A-40 for him to be surrounded by better offensive role players,
when he drives to the lane and the lane is clogged, what's he meant to do?
is he not meant to throw d ball to his teammates who should be free at that point in time to knockdown shots?, are those teammates not meant to be good offensively?
how u don't get this, i don't understand
LeBron does have serviceable options on offense. That is a myth. Its just that LeBron himself can singlehandedly, as he wins games, can lose games as well, esp. if his greatest weapon is taken away from him. The Cavs are a good offensive, but are even a greater defensive bunch. Their offense is not as bad as people are making out to be. Their guys are shooting good percentages. Its just being masked b/c their defense is more of the backbone to the team.
SportsRe: Nba Season '08/09 by ThugsRUs: 4:35pm On Dec 10, 2008
A-40:
Listen fool you don't want to go the insult route with me trust me on that one! Now as per our argument what stats do you have to back your claim that Donyell Marshal and Ira Newble who saw little or no minutes in that final and Daniel Gibson who was a rookie that only made the spot-light in the Detroit series where offensive juggernauts?what had the likes of Drew Gooden,Larry Hughes and Big Z achieved before coming to the Cavs?.
[b]Why are you putting words in my mouth? I never claimed they were "offensive juggernauts" as you put it. Show me in my posts where I referred to LeBrons cast as such. Instead, I claimed they were good serviceable role players on offense w/ great defense & rebounding (their bread & butter) which is 100% fact. Why do you like twisting peoples words?

In LeBrons Finals postseason, the Cavs had enough offense to will teams over the top. Even if LeBron didn't have a clear second option on offense However, it was LeBron that self-destructed himself as a jumpshooter, causing their downfall. You claimed the Cavs lacked some reliable scorers. Some stats you might want to consider during the 2006-07 playoff season:

Daniel Gibson shot a .561 eFG% off jumpshots, accounted for 84% of his shot attempts, in the playoffs. That is excellent. Big Z, who is more of a low post scorer w/ an OK jumpshot (for a big), shot a .604 eFG% inside the paint. Again, very efficient. Drew Gooden, a jumpshooting big, shot a .463 eFG% on 67% of his attempts, which is respectable. Varejao, another guy known for his inside presence, shot .571 eFG% inside the paint on 71% of his attempts. All these guys saw big mintues in the playoffs. LeBron HAD HELP on offense. You had guys shoot respectable to very good %s going more to their STRENGTHS. Now, lets take a look at LeBron:

Of all the shot attempts LeBron took in the playoffs, a whopping 67% of it was jumpshots. Why? Because the Spurs turned him into a jumpshooter for the most part w/ their lane-clogging. It turned out that LeBron shot a dismal .336 eFG% from there. He couldn't go more to his strengths, which was inside, where he shot a whopping .662 eFG%, accounted for only off 33% of his shot attempts.[/b]        

A-40:
Would you compare A.I of 01 to Lebron of 07? Basketball is not your forte you should try shadow-boxing did you see the combined stats of the entire team outside Lebron? I am sure your moronic self did not know that only Gooden and Gibson where able to manage double digits in the entire roster throughout that series (12.8 and 10.0 pts per game) so much for your better supporting cast theory you would make a good clown at the Ringling Brother's Circus
When an argument doesn't go your way, you resort to personal attacks. Very classy of you. They couldn't manage to score more b/c LeBron was busy chucking the team out of the series w/ his brickest. He also commited 5.8 turnovers a game, most in NBA Finals history. Did you ever think of that? Why aren't you addressing the issue? So how you expect his supporting cast to score more is beyond me. When Gibson, Gooden, Big Z & Varejao were given the ball, they shot good percentages. Other than that, LeBron was busy either, shooting his team out of games, or commiting stupid turnovers (traveling, bad pass, charge etc, )


A-40:
If you are not stupid you would not call the Spurs a lesser team because they won all 4 Finals they featured in but then its you so i guess stupidity comes natural
So, you actually believe the Spurs were better than the three peat Lakers?!? (ROFFLES). WOW. And you attacking my knowledge of the game.

A-40:
Lebron had an awful Series but could still manage 22 pts per game i have seen better so-called star players with worse stats Kobe had a stinker against the Celts last season and he had an obviously better team.Let me kick some facts for you it would interest you to know that Lebron's team mates where so shyte that none of them where able to provide up to 3 assists per game Lebron provided almost 7  so much for your moronic argument about Lebron not finding open team mates it is painfully obvious you didn't watch that series because i cannot count how many times Cleveland went for minutes on end without being able to make a basket.They where missing free-throws,wide open jumpers and sometimes the ball simply refused to go into the rim.He was surrounded by whack players even experienced NBA analysts would tell you that
[b]Those 22 points came off mostly either free throws, fast break points, or inefficient jumpers . When you take a ridiculous amount of shots, you are bound to score 22 points in a game. The real question is: Was it an efficient 22 points? I think we already know that answer to that.

And LeBrons teammates not averaging more than 3 assists a game is sheer poppycock. LeBron needs the ball in his hands to be effective, being the primary ball-handler and the defacto point guard. But then, he was busy making stupid decisions w/ the ball and shooting his team out the game. LeBrons mistakes could've in fact turned into assists for his teammates. So, then why do you expect his casts to average more than 3 APG, when LeBron himself is the primary ball-handler? 27% of all of the shots LeBron took throughout the playoffs that year were assisted. Therefore, LeBron isn't a good off-ball player.  

Not to mention that LeBron had one of the worst assist-to-turnover ratio: a better indication of a good passer, than just assists (a real NBA fan would know that). Yeah, LeBron averaged alot of assists in the Finals, but at what cost?

So, there goes your so-called knowledge of the game. LeBron is actually the one that sets the tone on offense and looks to find his cutting man, or an open teammate. Yet another dumb logic by A-40 himself.[/b]


A-40:
I saw you talking rubbish about Lebron so i decided to compare him to your over-hyped element which was Dwight Howard.I might have problems with just comprehension skills but you have no skills at all
Thats not too bright of you. I'm not arguing D12 is better than LeBron, but what comes w/ a dumb logic follows another personal attack about someones knowledge. Hypocrite much?  wink

A-40:
The Cavs starters as at last season or two seasons ago where barely good enough not to talk of the bench it is obvious you need a dictionary to read and step up your Vocab as the meaning of depth seems to be lost on you
No disrespect, but you are infact delusional if you believe having a good (but not great) starting cast translates to poor depth.

A-40:
Because thats what great players do who would mention Dwight Howard's name in 20 years time if he cannot lead Orlando to their First NBA title?Its obvious you are still a new jack in the game the playoffs are the only thing that matters if you didn't know that by now then its obvious you are a basketball novice.Lebron dragged an unfancied Cleveland team to the NBA Finals,Dirk came within two games of winning it!!
Thats a big IF. He has many more years in the NBA to get to the Finas. Nowitzki didn't get to the Finals until his late 20s. It happens. You can't expect D12 to get to the Finals when he hasn't even sniffed his prime. LeBron couldn't even will his team to the Finals at 22. LeBron did that at 23. D12 just TURNED 23 TWO DAYS AGO.



DURRRRRR!!


A-40:
Dwight is yet to do that and inasmuch as i am not saying he would never do it he has to show me proof before i believe his hype what is so hard in that for you to understand?
Yes. D12 must will his team to the championship at age 23, b/c LeBron James did it Nice logic.

A-40:
You are a spastic slowpoke i brought those names up so you could stop ranting and raving about Dwight Howard being in the running for Defensive Player of the year just so you know that some average players have won it too besides who does not know that Marcus Camby mainly relies on blocks and rebounding  tongue
Apprently you. Otherwise, you wouldn't have brought his name up, trying to compare both. D12 is a legit defender. Camby isn't.

A-40:
He was so athletic yet he was beat up and and out-muscled like a wuss by a much smaller defender in Maxiell in last season's conference semi's i would only reckon with him when he brings his athleticism to the playoffs
One erratic game does not make a player, although I wouldn't expect you to know that. . .

A-40:
He stays out of foul trouble and rarely needs a rest add that to the fact that he is usually effective for much of the game how would he not get more minutes?With your idiotic rants one would think you have a perfect mastery of the English Language.Hypocritical Pharisee what did i type in my piece that was too complicated for your feeble mind to understand? you made at least 7 grammatical faux pas and you are busy talking about my grammar
You can't even spell argument and you are ranting about my curriculum you should be shot  grin grin
Please. Enough excuses about your boy. He doesn't bring anything to the table other than his jumpshot. When his jumpshot is flat he is basically useless. He is an OK rebounder (for his height) and a good passer at times (I must admit), but he doesn't impact games as a D12, KG or Duncan. He doesn't anchor defenses, give his team second chance opportunities, etc. Remember, defense is half the game, and Dirk is non-existent. He isn't a force inside, and doesn't have legit post game other than facing up his opponent.

Thanks for the insults. It shows your character in simple debates.
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