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Janosky:
1. Luke 22:19 & Paul's epistle of 1 Corinthians 15,Christ handed to Paul, the commemoration (Memorial ) of Jesus death.
Why should I do something different that Master jesus didn't instruct us to do?

2. I don't get what you mean,pls explain or expatiate.
3. Did Jesus agree with the old testament that holy spirit is God's finger?
Yes.
Oga, which believer in your Bible had a one on one dialogue with holy spirit?
4. Paul wrote "Imitate me as I imitate Christ".
Oga, did Paul & Jesus worship triune spirits?

Your response very welcome.

It's funny how I hear people talk about God's word like this. They start by saying, where did God tell us to do this or that? It's hilarious.

Do you know God called us to fellowship and have dominion over his entire creation on earth. He never created robots who He must instruct on what to do in each time. Adam named the animals one after the other, and it was recorded that the same name God had named them in His heart, was what Adam called them. That's divine instinct and wisdom. That is what I'm talking about. This is what the death of Jesus christ has restored us to for those who believe.

In fact He called Abraham his friend. Abraham was bargaining with Him (God) about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and there are people like that till today in this generation, they are called God's watchmen.

You don't even have idea about the relationship of men and God, you are busy locked up looking in the Bible you don't even understand, checking where He said you do this or do that. Don't get me wrong, the basic understanding in keeping God's law and commandments are sacrosanct, although, you need the enablement of the Holyspirit.

Jesus calls us to grow in the word of God, till a point, you fellowship with your Father in heavenat heart.

Please referencee our bibles verses.

But let me leave you with this.
When a man is born again, he receives the spirit of the word is wisdom, the spirit of the word of Knowledge and the the spirit of discernment heart or spirit.

That is why it is written:

Romans 8: 14 - For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

1Corinthans 2:4 - But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

That is why, you don't need God to tell you verbally or allow it to be written palinly for you to do a whole lot of things that pertains both your physical life and your spiritual life.

John 16:12 - I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13. - Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

• The Holyspirit is not a feeling, He is a personality! That brings us to the knowledge of God's wisdom and helps us discern God's word and ways for our lives.

• He reveals the mysteries in God's word and helps us in worshiping God and in times of intercession importantly

• The Holy Spirit is our great comforter and teacher.

• He is God residing in us. For our bodies is His temple.

• He speaks to us and rebukes us when we have done wrong to seek repentance

• He helps us live a godly life, amongst many more...

Revelation 3:20 - Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Janosky:
How can you imitate Jesus & worship more than one spirit?
I want to see the Revelation that Mr Tilewizy received from Jesus.

Its there for you and for everyone.

Jere 29:13 - And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're sure of this then you shouldn't have jumped into the thread in the first place!🙂

I'm not ashamed of the gospel which is the power of God unto salvation.

Don't blame me, I can't help it when I hear or see a false doctrine that mimics Christainity or any avenue or forum where we can share the gospel, oh my brother, I just see myself jumping in..

Janosky:
Which of them be the Him?

Respect is accorded in the writing when you talking about the God head, instead of "him", it rather "Him", whether it starts the sentence or it's in the middle.

Him refers to God the Father, or God the Son, or God the Holy Ghost. The three are One!

Janosky:
Oga, do you really have proof for your claims?
Pls , by all means present it.
Everyone should see it , pls.

Present what for you?
Any prove you are looking for, go to the word of God and look for it.

Even when you see, feel and touch, you wouldn't know which is genuine. It's that simple.

Spiritual things aren't discerned by the physical impression.

Janosky:
Nicene Creed is church doctrine of men , not holy bible of God Almighty.

https://www.nairaland.com/8621414/emperor-constantine-promulgated-fallacious-nicene

That is the foundation of all of Christain faith. Anything outside it, isn't Christianity. I would say this again and again.

You can go ahead and say our bible is corrupted and we are influenced by pagan doctrine. Na you sabi.

At the end of time, everyone one would come to the knowledge of truth.

unitysheart:
Are Jehovah’s Witnesses Christians?

Yes. We are Christians for the following reasons:

We try to follow closely the teachings and behavior of Jesus Christ.—1 Peter 2:21.
We believe that Jesus is the key to salvation, that “there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”—Acts 4:12.
When people become Jehovah’s Witnesses, they are baptized in the name of Jesus.—Matthew 28:18, 19.
We offer our prayers in Jesus’ name.—John 15:16.
We believe that Jesus is the Head, or the one appointed to have authority, over every man.—1 Corinthians 11:3.
However, in a number of ways, we are different from other religious groups that are called Christian. For example, we believe that the Bible teaches that Jesus is the Son of God, not part of a Trinity. (Mark 12:29) We do not believe that the soul is immortal, that there is any basis in Scripture for saying that God tortures people in an everlasting hell, or that those who take the lead in religious activities should have titles that elevate them above others.—Ecclesiastes 9:5; Ezekiel 18:4; Matthew 23:8-10.

http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/are-jehovahs-witnesses-christians/

You quote scriptures you know little or nothing much about, the context is changed and you feel comfortable.

• Jesus' name is not just under heaven, it's the authority in the heaven, in the earth and beneath
• Jesus is not just the head, He is God! God, revealing himself in the flesh.
• Unbelievers are to be baptised in the powers and name of the Trinity, after the persons must have believed that Jesus died and rose again to justify him and then confesses salvation with his mouth.
• The soul/spirit is eternal, the flesh is what is temporary.
• Not God torturing people, but they would be condemned to hell, for those who are unrepentant and die in their sins, the devil of course and his agents, does the torture.
• Before God everyone is equal, but there are ministers of God, pastors, bishops, evangelist e.t.c. do they have any rare privilege, no! The only thing is they occupy church positions, there are members more closer to God than the pastors in that church. God is not a respecter of persons, He works with the heart. If he calls you, he gives you the backing to stand and to lead his people, that is it.

unitysheart:
I am proudly one of Jehovah's Witnesses. You will really need to get to know us more before you can conclude. We follow what is written in the Bible closely. The more reason why many hate us. We are not Saints and we also do sin many times. However, we have a system based in Bible verses in place to check wrongdoings and to align us more with the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ. While some practise sins inn secret due to the imperfect flesh that we all have, but you can be sure that once a secret is blown open, there's a system in place to keep our congregations clean and holy. There's appropriate sanctions to discipline offenders and wrongdoers.

You can follow the link below to learn more about us so that you can make have informed view about us.
http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/

My earnest prayers is that the Holy spirit of God, open your all your eyes to know Jesus Christ (God)

The workings of God are beyond the proscription of human organisations. Rather it's a call to personal fellowship with Him (God, the Father! God, the Son! and God, the Holy Spirit) [The Trinity]!
No even bound by Church doctrine.

Check the Nicene creed below"
"I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.

God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.

For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.

He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.

I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen."


Anything outside the above I'm afraid, it's not Christianity.

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Courz:
You are doing an excellent job in this thread using Bible verses to answer the topic of this thread. Kudos. For your information, Fellow JWs have disowned MaxinDhouse and called him an imposter because his views do not align with JWs and he has been disgracing them for years in this forum with his utterances. So, please don't take what he says seriously. He has been disfellowshipped from JW.

Thank you for the information.
I hereby hold my peace

MaxInDHouse:
The truth of God's word says "by their fruits you will know" {Matthew 7:16} and you as in yourself have testified to the fruit among JWs:



So it's you who is now lying to your own soul!

2 Timothy 3:5 - Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

MaxInDHouse:
If we don't believe in the Active Force of God then what will energize us to do the things of God that makes you say we worth emulating?

Guy we believe in the holy spirit in fact we baptize new ones in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit but it's what your pastors told you about the holy spirit that we don't agree with!🙂

What did my pastor tell me about the Holy Spirit?

MaxInDHouse:
ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE means having the truth as it was penned down by the inspired writers of the word.
Bibles we have today are translations of what was penned down by inspired men in ancient times so to have the accurate knowledge we can't just pick a translation and conclude that is the only one we should use.
Jesus said "by their fruits you will know" this means if a translation is correct then those studying it will produce the fruitage of God's holy spirit as a group since they are studying it together.
I mentioned what Christianity supposed to achieve globally but you ruled it out and started audio claims that can't be verified anywhere whereas Jesus said his disciples are the light of the world {Matthew 5:14} can individuals in different religions do this?
Of course not they must be organized and recognized before people can see and say good things about their faith! Matthew 5:16
You can't mention the name of your church yet you keep arguing that you have faith when everyone knows that there are thousands of different religions out there claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines!

Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES has been known for decades now to have unified teaching and the result:



If you typed the above statement with your own fingers whatever you say against that group is lies to your own soul!🙂

From your first paragraph - if you have noticed I have given some bible references, most king James version, some new international version.
I understand the basic concepts of common tanslation use of the bible to convey a message or drive a point.

The JW organisation is different in this case, in that the translation they chose alters the context of the sacred basis of Christianity which they only use. As you have earlier mentioned, and thats where there is a problem.

Who are the thousand religious groups saying Christianity have altered their teachings?
What do they know about Christianity?

Christianity has done so much for the world today and is still doing so even till time. Isn't that the salt and light of the world, as Jesus said?

In fact Christianity haven't even started?

Your being salt or light of the world shouldn't only based on character, but in the works of our hands as well.

Like I would always say, there are true Christians and there are others who just attend church services.

2 Timothy 2:20 - 21
20. But in a great house, there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
21. If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

When Jesus says by their fruits we shall know,
them you think He was separating his followers within them. He was teaching us to be careful of false prophets. Matthew 7: 14 - 15.

Romans 16:17 - Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

2 Timothy 3:5 - Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

You claim you have fruits but you deny that Jesus Christ resurrected from the dead on the 3rd day, and when a Christian talks, you would say he is following his pastor and the bible he is using is corrupted.

I can go on and on to warn people about any gathering that come together and preach heresies, and call it Christianity.

Whatever you people are doing there I tell you today is not Christianity. In some of my responses above, I have listed what it takes to be a Christian and to live a Christian life.

Even as I speak to you, I'm speaking to my very own self.

1st Corinthians 9: 27 - But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

MaxInDHouse:
Supreme Judge!😂

Whatever you feel is appropriate you can say, but the truth of God's word stands!

MaxInDHouse:
Why do you love deceiving yourself?

Take note of the first century Christians that none of them do boast about his Christ like the apostle Paul known for helping to form churches back then said about himself:

"For I do not understand what I am doing. For I do not practice what I wish, but I do what I hate. However, if I do what I do not wish, I agree that the Law is fine. But now I am no longer the one doing it, but it is the sin that resides in me" Romans 7:15-17

So none could speak as a perfect example of Christian but they always say that their group is performing as in fulfilling what Jesus foretold about his group:

And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean; you have been sanctified; you have been declared righteous in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God. 1Corinthans 6:11

So as a group the first century disciples of Christ achieved what Jesus foretold even though individuals often fall short due to imperfection. James 3:2

That is why the OP could single out one organization because he can see how this group is performing globally as the Christian group doing the assignment Jesus gave his disciples. Matthew 28:19-20

While you are here on a faceless forum glorifying your anonymous self and at the same time hiding the name of your church {John 3:19} so that no one can see the fruit of what your pastors are teaching you! Matthew 7:16-18😀

How am I deceiving myself for saying the truth from word of God which you have called corrupted?

You quoted Rom. 7: 15 - 17, that's a very good scripture. If you really have read my numerous responses to you, I have tried many times explaining to you that we can not live a Christian life with the energy of the flesh, just as Paul affirms this. It's only by the help of the Holy Spirit, whom the JW doesn't believe in.

You were the one boasting many times of the fruits you all collectively possess in JW as you are the only ones going about doing what Jesus with enviable fruits and making all other Christian doctrines less of what it should be.

1 Corinthians 1:31 - Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.” (NIV)

In all I have been saying or responding to you, I have tried telling that, we know the way of Christ from the scriptures, so, walk in it.

I am not just boasting or making claims that this church does it better than this.

I am saying with confidence who are Christians are and who aren't from the bible. Just because a church opens the bible doesn't make them automatic Christians or a Bible living Church.

This is even funny, how am I been judge by my church or by pastor sef? I have never mentioned any church or pastor in my write-ups.

I am speaking as a Christian with scriptural backing to anyone who's reading our conversations and trying to know the truth from a genuine heart.

MaxInDHouse:
All these are audio self glorification just mention the name of your church and let's consider how you people have been producing the FRUIT of faith like Jehovah's Witnesses.

The OP can see many religions claiming Christians but noticed only Jehovah's Witnesses with fine qualities worth emulating that's why he is curious so let us know the name of your own church not just quoting scriptures that you can't apply publicly to any religion!

The word of God is alive and it is doing a lot of work in the gathering of God's people {Hebrews 4:12} so instead of telling stories present your church and let us see the WORKS of God's holy spirit in your gathering! James 2:18-26😀

I am not identified by my church, yes I agree my church has a lot to play in my spiritual growth, nuture and edification.

A Christian is identified by:
1. Spiritual birth, John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
2. A person who walks in the spirit. Romans 8:14 - For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. With this the fruits and gifts you mentioned would easily be seen in them.
3. Service to God and men - again, from the above those who walk in the Spirit, are led to serve in God's house and also to men. Just as we see in the world today, many of inventions began from Christain population linked to the church. Matthew 22: 37- 40
4. Peace and holiness, Hebrews 12:14 - Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
5. Examplary lives. Act. 11: 26 - And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
6. Belonging to a Bible living/praying Church (where the ordinance of Christianity is practiced, holy communions, praying the holy ghost, offerings and all). Matthew 16:18 - And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

With the above, knowing a christain is not only by Church attendance but by those who live or practice the word of God, which is by the enablment of the Holyspirit.

James 1:22 - But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Luke 11:28 - But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Zechariah 4:6 - Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

MaxInDHouse:
See childish comment!😂
Someone who doesn't even know the person he is chatting with o.

In fact Satan can deceive arrogant people so easily!🙂

Whoever you maybe, you are NO ONE in the sight or eyes of God.

For when even the mighty are before God, they all humble themselves, bow their knees before God and cast their crowns before Him (The Ancient of Days, the Alpha and the Omega, The I Am, that I Am).

While for a true Believer, when we are gathered in one accord, we are before God, we are regarded as the children of God, no matter the church title!

1st John 3:1 - Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! Therefore the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. (NKJV)

MaxInDHouse:
Satan also used to speak to people {1Chronicles 21:1} while the one hearing such voices will conclude that God is the one talking to him {2Samuel 24:1} in this same manner Satan has been disguising as an angel of light! 2Corinthians 11:14

So how can we prevail over Satan's schemes?

First we need to take in the ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE of God so as to know the will of God which helps all the holy ones globally to remain in union with the Lord as we have the same line of thought {1Corinthans 1:10} secondly we must continue in prayer {1Thessalonians 5:17} not to loose focus on what we and all our brothers throughout the earth have learned together so that by the time anyone comes with unfruitful teaching let such person be accursed {Galatians 1:8} how is our God speaking to all His children today?

Regarding organizational directions and faith that unifies all His worshipers our God doesn't speak to individuals again rather we all focus on His inspired word: Bible!

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. 2Timothy 3:16-17🙂

Congratulations! At least for the first time you discussed intelligently by bringing points from your beliefs in answering a question posed.

Let's adresss some issues raised here..

1. You are very correct in your first paragraph, that Satan disguising as an angel of light and all, this was your trying to reply me when I mentioned that I hear God.

There are many scriptures to back this claim, that God still speaks to His children through various means. It could be through His revealed word, during a personal study time, during prayers, in dreams, during worship sessions, through conversations and through the ministry of His anointed ministers.
A true prove that God is the one talking is there's a scriptural reference to whatever issue that this is and what follows after is peace that surpasses all understanding.

2. You mentioned some points on how we can overcome Satan's accurate schemes, you started by saying, having accurate knowledge of God's word and we keep up with prayers.

This is very correct!
But then, every religion does this. Almost all religious groups pray, they fast and have good knowledge of their books. Witches fast!

The problems here are:
a. Accurate knowledge of what? You have mentioned our bibles are different, and that ours is corrupted. So which knowledge are you talking about?
b. Prayers to who? Is it to the God who only died in flesh and never rose or to God whose spirit is just an essence? Even the Muslims say he was killed, but there was no resurrection.

Then to your last paragraph, you only think that God speaks to His people through the word alone. I beg to differ, He says in Malachi 3:6 - For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Just as he spoke to Abraham, Issac and Jacob, he still speaks to His children through various modes. The most important thing to note is that it is aligned with His word.

1st Corinthians 14: 33 - For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

MaxInDHouse:
When their preferred pulpit men talks they swallow it hook line and sinker and off they go with the words of their pastors but when it's time to defend what their pastors infused in their heads they will start looking for escape root.

Just imagine someone who confidently said a group he knew very well with fine qualities worth emulating are not Christians whereas they are the people going from house to house preaching just as Jesus commanded. Matthew 10:11-13

They are the most peaceful and organized people on planet earth! Matthew 10:16

They are the only group that keeps love strong among them to the most distant part of the earth! John 13:34-35

Matthew 5:16

But to our friend:


WHY?
Because his pastor told him so!🤣

In the book of Romans 8: 29 - 30 - For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover, whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

God picks us up, breaks us, moulds us back, and justifies us. We are changed to look like Jesus Christ and not just by mere outward composure.
As much as outward appearances are important, God is interested in our spirit man. We can only be right outwardly when we are right or changed from within.

The words Jesus Christ spoke were more in parables as he had to teach us the meaning, but he said many we would not understand until the Holyspirit comes who would teach and guide us all to all truths. John 16:13.

So therefore, I stand on my points in above session, that the Jehovas witness are not Christians.

• The same Holyspirit (the 3rd God head) that Jesus Christ promised to send to us to help guide and teach us and show us the revealed or hidden word of God, they don't believe in him or rather see him just as an essence.

• We are baptised in name of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holyspirit according to Matthew 28: 19 - 20, you also don't practice that.

• Your organisation dont believe in the ressurected Jesus Christ. In the book of Luke 24:46 - And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

These are the few amongst other points that shows that there's a major difference between Christianity and what your organisation preaches.

When I go on and on, you would then tell me that my bible is corrupted and I should go and do research about the origin of each verse in the Bible.

I do not need a pastor to tell me this, I have eyes to read the scriptures for myself, moreover I have the Holyspirit within me that leaps or refires within me (gift of discernment) when I come across the truth, but He groans when there's a false teaching or doctrine echoed, just like in this case.

MaxInDHouse:
Ok, i'm sorry sir i thought Jesus is the one speaking about how to IDENTIFY his disciples in the verse o.

So it's just John writing whatever he like shey?

Now it's clear!🤣

You who sins and cover it up is talking.

In some of my previous comments I have tried explaining to you that just because a Buddist monk for example live a separated and peaceful life doesn't make him a heir of God's kingdom.

You can be very cautious, well mannered and behaved and everyone applaud your composure doesn't make you to have a right standing with God.

This is not to say a Christian should not be well behaved and mannered, most of the teachings in the Bible are centred around living a Christian life.

You use a nominal church attender or even the Priests to strengthen your points against the church, because of some of the wrong doings you might have seen or heard of which they committed.

Yes, they maybe condemned, Romans 3:23 - "for we all sinned, and come short of the glory of God", but before God, a true repentant heart is forgiven.

MaxInDHouse:
You are a pastor's follower!

How do we know?

You will quote what your pastors told you and based on that disqualify others.

Note your reasons for saying Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians:

They are not Christians because;
1. They demystify the power of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, rather commemorate with his death only
2. They remove the mystery and life of the subject of faith.
3. They reduce the person of the Holy Spirit (the 3rd God head)
4. In other words, they don't believe in the trinity (God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit)

This are the personal doctrines of your church pastor so any church that may differ in doctrine to what you said here aren't Christians from your judgement that means before you can say a church is Bible believing all these must be their doctrine.
Definitely it's not only one church you will condemn over this issue rather as many churches as possible that's not in tune with these dogmatic opinion are not Christians.
That is why i keep insisting on what the founder of Christianity said but you are ruling out his words claiming it's not necessary.
Jesus said the only way to recognize his church is they will be in all the nations of the earth {Act 1:8} and despite their cultural and racial differences love will bind them together just as he loves his disciples. John 13:34-35
Jesus also said by their fruits you will know them {Matthew 7:16-18} which means the fruit of God's holy spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} permeating the gathering of imperfect humans.
Both identifying marks you have ruled out because of what your pastor taught you.
So there is no need arguing aimlessly with you again sincere and honest hearted observers knows the church where real Christians assemble:






















Farewell!🙂

By the grace of God I have grown to a point where God speaks to me in various ways. Of course, thank God for great men of God who have taught us the knowledge of God's word and its application from onset.

Jeremiah 3:15 - And I will give you pastors/Shepherds according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.

• Only your organisation have a separate bible where certain sentences or narration in other versions are changed, and you feel it's not a problem. Do I need a pastor to tell me something is wrong?
• The word of God is twisted deliberately and you are brain washed to completely derail from the very essence of the knowledge of truth. Do I need a pastor to tell me something is wrong.

The scriptures below shows the true witnesses -

• Matthew 28:19-20 - “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

• Acts 1:8 - “But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”

• Luke 24:46-49 - “And said to them, “Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead, and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem. You are witnesses of these things. And behold, I am sending the promise of my Father upon you. But stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high.”

• Acts 22:15 - “For you will be a witness for him to everyone of what you have seen and heard.”

• Luke 21:13-15 - “This will be your opportunity to bear witness. Settle it therefore in your minds not to meditate beforehand how to answer, for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries will be able to withstand or contradict.”

MaxInDHouse:
But when asked if a group with fine qualities worth emulating are Christians you quickly jumped in and said:
"They are not Christians"

And your yardstick?
TRINITY that is not even written in your own KJV!😀

Do not mislead people, yes, you aren't Christains.

MaxInDHouse:
Now you're complicating issues for yourself!😂

Our SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS which anyone can claim he has {Isaiah 64:6} and say he or she doesn't need to learn anything from Christ is what the Bible say is like filthy rags before God not the New Personality {Ephesians 4:22-24} which a believer puts on to bear the fine fruit of God's holy spirit o!😀

See twisting of God's word promax! 😆
How can I be saying all these things to you with bible references and yet not talk the fruits of the spirit which proceeds easily with proves in the life of a believer.

Jesus christ is the true vine and we are branches of the vine.

The church is like a hospital, many are sick and are there for healing.
We may not look perfect from outside, but there are many within that have a right standing with God.

MaxInDHouse:
Now you are confirming what i said that it's whatever your pastors say you swallow.
Who told you the KJV is the only Bible version believers can use?

What about
1. JERUSALEM BIBLE
2. RSV
3. AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION
4. NIV
5. ESR
6. NASB
7. NWT

Guy you are not a Bible scholar rather a churchgoer so calm down and learn!🙂

I never said I'm a scholar, I'm just a child of God, a believer and with the help of the HolySpirit, I'm living a Christian life.


1st Corinthians 2: 13 - 14 : Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

MaxInDHouse:
Now you're complicating issues for yourself!😂

Our SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS which anyone can claim he has {Isaiah 64:6} and say he or she doesn't need to learn anything from Christ is what the Bible say is like filthy rags before God not the New Personality {Ephesians 4:22-24} which a believer puts on to bear the fine fruit of God's holy spirit o!😀

Yes, it's self acclaimed, righteousness. If you read my comments carefully, I never boast in my abilities in standing right before God. I subject myself to the help of the spirit of God. No Christian would ever boast of this.

Let me show you a story in the Bible to teach you that no matter what you do, there's still something else that you have not done, and that's how we are judged in the sight of God till today.

There are many people that live the lives you have been mentioning since, they haven't killed, they don't steal and so on, but they would not see the kingdom of God, this is just the scriptures. But, a thief who was even jailed, and then was redeemed just like the thief Barabas that was crucified along Jesus Christ on the cross, would see the kingdom of God.

That is the reason of the death of Jesus Christ and resurrection. The price was fully paid, hence it's no longer by works but by accepting that the Son died and rose again on the 3rd day and we join Him to be sons of God and heirs of the kingdom and yield the same power and authority in His name.

Read Luke 18:9 - 14
Read also Matthew 19 : 16 - 22

Abeg use king James version o

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible you are reading is CORRUPTED that is what Bible scholars are telling you.

This is what is found in the Bible book of 1John 5:7

For there are three witness bearers: NWT

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For there are three that testify: NIV‬

Only the KJV version was corrupted with that fabrication.

Check the Jerusalem Bible or American Standard Version or Revised Standard version!😀

As you see me finish, you end your discussion by saying the bible we all Christian read is corrupted.

Na only una get the ogbongeh bible. No be juju be that?

Can we now draw a conclusion that since we don't even have same source of the bible, how can we understand each other?

I have kept saying this over and over, that these guys aren't Christains, as there's some sort of brain washing, deviation from the truth, twisting of the scriptures and misrepresentation of God's divine ordinance.

They may look pretty from without and appear good in behaviour, but its occultic.

Do you think God would sit in heaven and watch His word become corrupted from year to year, decades to decades and century to century.

Let me show you some scriptures to tell you how important is His word

Matt. 24: 35 - Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Deut. 4:2 - Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

And finally,
2nd Timothy 3:16 - All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

MaxInDHouse:
So all the people you've met and admitted are WORTH EMULATING just made it up shey?

But how come they are able to put on the new personality {Ephesians 4:22-24} that's of God's holy spirit if they are not walking with the spirit of God? Galatians 5:22-23🙂

Like I said earlier, having a face of "fine fruits" doesn't mean anything in the sight of God. Some other religions also stresses the need of being good.

Before God, your righteousness is like filthy rag to Him. It's by grace we are saved, not by works.

MaxInDHouse:
you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:32

Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. 1Thessalonians 5:21

Go and make your own personal research instead of arguing blindly!😀

With all the pictures you put on, what message have you conveyed? Is it not same scripture with same meaning.

The true witnesses is carried out the Holyspirit being in unison with man's spirit, hence we don't need any further research outside the bible.

Job 32:8 -
But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding

MaxInDHouse:
Guy the highlighted was a fabrication from the same people who tried to merge pagan traditions with the Bible. That verse is not in all translations.

Do the research today!🙂

John 10:30 - I and my Father are one.

Is the words from Jesus a fabrication from a pagan religion aswell?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy the highlighted was a fabrication from the same people who tried to merge pagan traditions with the Bible. That verse is not in all translations.

Do the research today!🙂

You see why I said you are not Christians!