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ono:
Obama is a master manipulator. The guys practically turned the White House to a Chicago style mob house where shady deals, half truths, full lies, manipulations and all what not were freely flowing all over the place.

All of Trump's firing of moles, eavesdroppers, gangs and mobs were those planted by Obama.

Lmao, planted by obama. Yet no evidence of any single thing

No indictment against him for a single thing, just right wing claims from trump and his idiots like you

If all waht you claim obama did it, by all means ill love to him in court.

wirinet:
Watching the videos is a waste of time and bandwidth. It's just dialogues between fox and friends on what they think Comey said or did and the crimes they think Comey and Clinton commited. They forgot to add that Hillary went through 2 years of senate and FBI investigations and she was given a clean bill by Republican controlled senate.
Clinton had left government for 5 years and the Justice department is controlled by Trump's houseboy, Bill Bar while the Senate is still Republican controlled. So, why hasn't charges been filled against Hillary Clinton?

Now, watch out for Trump. The minute he looses immunity, you will see dozens of criminal charges brought against him by both the justice department and southern district of New York among others.

Democrats dont beat around. I personally dont belive trump would go to jail.

But ill love to see ivanka go to jail.

basilico:
Read James Baker FBI General Counsel handwritten notes before Strozk and Pientka ambushed Gen Flynn at the WH with Comey bragging how he pulled the FBI interview off via deceit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyaHvNzJ29w


Here is Sally Yates dumping on Comey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zBfJe7MFYY


Be informed

Wait before i go through with this, let me confirm from you, did flynn lie to fbi yes or no ?

wirinet:
He was set up to lie to the Vice President?

Are you minding this ones

Someone lied, they said they set him up

Magats

budaatum:
Reminds me of Ipobs who listened to Kanu and boycotted the election without realising they disenfranchised themselves.

Magas, boycott! Please!

Kanu is a mumu person

I always believed he is playing both sides, and he is an agent of the fedral government

He is making huge cash from igbo billionaires, he is grifter

If he really wants his ipob, he is doing it the wrong way, to be candid.

wirinet:
For one he lied to the Vice President and the FBI about discussing Russian sanctions in calls with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak prior to Trump’s inauguration.

They said he was set up ooo

Amujale:
For me, it's been a learning curve.

Yes, I was always aware of election malpractices in US politics.

How eles would there be only one African American president in their history.

How else aren't there any woman to have taken up the office in the history of American politics.

This our debate ought to be poised to answer the bigger questions instead of stalling on a partisan front.

Those are rhetorical question, they answer themselves.

You just dey talk nonsense

African Americans and women not being president does not me there is election malpractice. Its not yet up to 70 years black americans fought away segregation and got the right to vote , just around 100 years women got the right to vote too
Just shows blacks and women have not been active in politics as much as we wish

But watch out for more in the next 50 years

There would be a gay potus, a black potus, a female potus

That 3 i am sure would happen soon.

budaatum:
No sane person will claim there was no election malpractices in the 2020 American elections, and a neutral assessor as you claim you are would consider both parties likely did fraud too and would at least consider the evidence before promoting it as fact as you do.

Fact is there is no evidence yet of the sort of fraud that would swing any of the counts being disputed, at least no evidence for fraud has been provided despite numerous opportunities and incentives to do so.

Most of the things this morons calls fraud

Are human mistakes.

basilico:
Was his attorney given the original copy of the302?
Was the judge who first heard his forced plea guilt recused? Judge Contreras.Was he a friend of the FBI agent Peter Strozk who framed Flynn, edited it and never gave the defence attorney their rightful copy.
Was there evidence of FBI General Counsel asking what they were attempting to snare Flynn with. logan Act (proposed by Joe Biden on Jan 4 2017).

Wait your point right now is they set him to lie to law enforcement

Lmao. Okay

Amujale:
These American politics extremist try to make it out that there are no election malpractices in American elections.


Again, i'm giving a neutral assessment.

I didn't say all allegations of election malpractices in the 2020 American elections are facts.

In fact I didn't say anything about the allegations being fact.

What I am saying however is that it's a fact that there are allegations of election malpractices in the 2020 American elections.

I know it might rub extremist the wrong way.

Those are the facts, right there.

Seems you lack logical reasoning, no one said that there no errors or something

The point is, this election. Different bodies have said no fraud, trumps own dhs said no fraud. All what is happening here is premeditated

You saying hand counting is better, like we were all born today.

benalvino2:
You forgot where I said the electors can chose to ignore their votes if they want? stop taking my words out of context. Lol

Rubbish, they are know as faithless electors. In most states the votes are voided.

But go on

benalvino2:
How does it connect to Russia? And he wasn't even guilty he was forced to plead guilty

Are you a mumu ? Was it not your stupid example you made earlier i was debunking.

Lmao, they forced hin to plead guilty

Lmao. Okay coming from him 2 years after he plead guilty.

But okay

basilico:
I'll wait for election petitions.What crime did Mike Flynn commit

He initially plead guilty to wilfully and knowingly make false and fictious statements to FBI

A.K.A, lying to law enforcement.

budaatum:
Not in America they can't! The people who vote only tells the electors who they want to be the president. It would be very unusual for the electors to disregard the instructions they were given. But you can perhaps point to evidence that shows precedence for your claim.

Dont mind him. Prideoflincoln, already posted an article here about the way electors are chosen he didnt read it i am sure

Before the election, both parties in each state submits the names of the elcectors, dems would submit their own, Republicans would submit there own

Whoever wins the state, if it is dems, dems electors would be the one to cast the state votes, if it republicans, republican electors would be the one to cast the states votes

So if you think dem electors of this year would cast a diffent vote, you make me laugh.

wirinet:
I don't know who defends Russia more - Trump or benalvino2? Maybe you are one of the many Russian trolls in Nigeria or Ghana.


Please give us the link to the tape of Hillary saying Russia stole the election.

Trump had been insinuating he would not accept defeat right down from 2016. Did that cause you to be angry at Trump? No you guys increase your admiration of him.

This is what i have been saying here

Everything is premeditated, they already had there stories set. Incase they lost.

Y’all that believe there is fraud because they are saying it must be morons, and have not watched any of there press briefings

Trump is a petulant child, spoilt brat. He cant accept defeat, he would rather burn the whole system down.

benalvino2:
the people who vote only tells the electors who they want to be the president. The electors are actually the ones who vote for the president. So where one candidate win the entire states by voting even win by 1960 million votes to 0... The electors can still decide the guy with the 0 vote is the president. You understand?

Lol seems you dont know how electors are picked.

benalvino2:
Lmao. They also said Russia was behind brexit, they said Russia wants to steal french election fearing macron will lose, same thing in Germany.

Hillary has been saying on tape that Russia stole the election and Trump is an illegitimate president. Not just her the media has been saying that. Hillary also said Biden should not concede no matter what.

Amd trump has been saying democrats rigged the popular votes, he set up a committee to investigate. It fell out

And i ask you point blank yes or no, did russia aid the trump campaign of 2016.

Let me know if you are worth arguing with.

benalvino2:
You have to have a case first for cross examination to take place. How does the judges know they are lying? The whole system is just political which is bad. Judges act as activist these days instead of following the law.

Example, the obama judge in charge of Michael flynns case. The DOJ had brought proof that he was settle up and say they are dropping the case but the judge who is supposed to allow the case go refused. Now the judge has become the persecutor.

People with first hand knowledge are not required to produce video or audio to make their testimony valid. That's not how things work in the court.

What are you talking about ? Mike flynn was set up ? Really

Just stop this your rubbish of kissing trumps ass

The obama administration already warned trump of mike flynn before anything. Trump still went ahead to appoint him

Pence later found out he lied too him. So who set him up

Mr man stop playing victim here

benalvino2:
Goal post has shifted. No one said Russia stole the election you said.

Wait, as i said earlier. Even before the election we all knew russia was playing an active role, intelligence reports already said as early as june 2016, that russia is interfering in the election

Did you see hillary litigate trump over the election results even tho it was razor thin

No she did not, she conceded. And the senate investigated russias interference, and we all saw yest they did contact the trump campaign

So whats your point ?

benalvino2:
This is rubbish. Lol you don't know how court work. They can nullify election don't you know? Elections has been redone don't you know? Or sometimes a court ruled who the winner is.

Nullify elections because of fraud yes, why not. Elections could be re done, yes surely.

The point is, none of this can happen because of a state law you didnt sue before election

If you were good with it before election, but all of a sudden because you lost you sue so it can overturn the election it wouldnt work ooo

Why have the election at all ?

benalvino2:
So in what you posted, where does it say state governors and court can change election rules?

Mr man, if a governor changed rules and you didnt challenge it in court before election and you want to challenge it after election because you lost, even if its ruled in your favour it wouldnt affect the already cast votes. Maybe future election.

Your claim is rubbish, and thats shows you know nothing about the law.

A40:
Them don deny am? Lmaoooo ohh my Lawdy

At this point anyone who still think Trump has any proof of election fraud is a crackhead. His only play and only interest right now which he has clearly shown is attempting a borderline coup and trying to cancel and disenfranchise voters and communities who didn't vote for him. Or have states not certify Biden.

He has no proof, absolutely nothing and you are a complete dangbana if you believe otherwise.

I pray for strength for you guys still engaging these Trumpies

It was obvious, only his supporters that cant see it

Trump is busy milking them for cash. Rudy too his working for his cash $20k per day.

When the crazy becomes too much, you drop it

Amujale:
They are already in the courts.

Whatever the conclusion of that entire fiasco of an election, one thing is certain, the American political systems will never be the same.

Obviously they are, for example in Pa that trump needs

Rudy’s claim was they should toss all mail in ballots, without no evidence provided, he was laughed out of court

Yeah its heading to the appeals, but any evidence he didnt enter earlier cant be entered now at these point, even if he gets to the supreme court.

As my friend would say, a lawyer with evidence pastes his evidence on his head with pride and bounces into the court room knowing his claim has a legal standing. No lawyer hides evidence, because the defence team is even meant to know of the evidence and witnesses thats what lawyers call “discovery”, this isnt a movie scene where you pull out evidence at the last minute, Doesn’t work that way.
No lawyer with the “good stuff” would refuse to mention, disclose, describe, or share that evidence before trial. Because he is potentially opening it to permanent dismissal on a 12(b)(6).

If rudy had any evidence, he would have shown it at court by now.

Amujale:
That is incorrect, it's one thing to claim that the evidence is false and to show by disproving the complainants accusations, and it's a completely different situation and an unacceptable thing to keep saying there's no evidence.

Whatchu mean?

How did it get to be heard in the courts?

Kindly stop saying that, that's untrue.

I will keep my neutral hat on and wait the conclusion of this saga.

Sir trumps lawyers, none have alleged fraud in court. And none as shown any evidence of anything in court. Not twitter oooo, Court,

i dare them to take those there rubbish YouTube and twitter videos to court.

Kophschmerzen:
Do well to f*** off, why ain't no fraud in 16? No fraud in places that Trump won? Your common sense should be exchange for a community junkyard.

In the counties he won, he claims no fraud, but counties he lost

Isnt that setting a precedent for every loser, after you lose. Claim fraud.

Lmao

Amujale:
For all those American politics fundamentalist exremists that cannot seem to think objectively.
Allow me, there are allegations of election malpractices in the US 2020 electoral processes.

Deal with it, those are the facts whether we are fond of them or otherwise.

And what we have all be telling you is frivolous

It is premeditated, without no basis. We all knew trump would be going to court if he lost.

Before the election Trump already said if he lost he was going to go to court, with or without evidence

And now there is no evidence of anything, he is even going the lenght trying to pressure legislative member to turn the election for him

Cant you see the whole ploy.

basilico:
See your lies.He ordered them to put the ballots aside.They didn't, instead counted it and gave Joe
They will meet in the SCOTUS

They didnt count it, and this isnt there claim sef.

That they are heading to scotus

Seems you dont know how the supreme court works

Obrigardo:
There were just two cases of blatant voter fraud and it was carried out by two republicans as you can see
But what amazes me is where have you been the past year, were you living in a cave?
do you remember 2018 and people came out in droves to vote in the congress elections, first time that election saw the voters it had, historic
people took that same drive to 2020, and considering every celebrity, politician and organizers were saying this was the vote of your life,
why won't people react the way they did, big head?
And also stacy abrams registering over 800k people to vote in Georgia which made Biden win, did that come out of your tinny head?
You trump supporters take reality for granted

They keep saying joe ran a campaign from his basement bla bla

Using there analogy, trump is a fraud. How did he get 72 million votes ? He never crossed the 50% approval rating average. So how ?

They fail to include that in 1992 and 1996, it was 115 million and 100 million voter turn out respectively

While 2008, voter turn out was 130 million.

This year its around 160 million. That is 30 million more voters

Where did they expect it to go ?

You cant correct stupid

You people should stop arguing with mr basilisco

He is not factual at all.

See how he is saying the judge is an obama apointee, knowing fully well, obama would have never nominated him if not for a deal he had with a republican senator.

That judge in Pa is what you call a real republican, he is a member of the federalist society

Him dismissing rudy’s case doesnt make him less of a republican, it just shows he is not as biased as you all expect him to be

sanpipita:
He should name Hunter Biden, I want to see some people burn

Lol