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Jessicha:
sister, the belive that everybody go to heaven is not SCRIPTURAL.

Me: Everyone goes to heaven.(I said everyone who lives Christlike. Before u misquote that too)

You: Not scriptural.

Me: What is scriptural?

You: New earth and new heaven.

Me: Who goes there?

You: refuse to answer.

Me: How do we separate who goes there?

You : refuse to answer

U are not here to teach me what you assume I don't know and improve my knowledge. U are only here to poke holes,

Jessicha:
GBAM! @ bold, thats the point

U have smartly refused to answer my question. What is the qualification.? Who goes there? So that next time, I can say it properly. Are u a manipulator of the word of God?

Bye J, wish u all d best in ur spiritual journey. Arguing new earth isn't my purpose. I'm not impressed or edified. I'm almost embarassed for ur insistence and desire to just argue.

Jessicha:
i brought up new earth ? lolz, jessicha wrote 2 pet 3:13 ?

I can't believe u are even denying this. . . did I lie against you. And why is that the only point u chose to respond to?

I realise it will be futile to engage in this with u. It is also not spiritually edifying. I told people to stop arguing already. It will be terrible if I engage u in something that seems like your sole purpose and inspiration on earth. Arguing and going round and round twisting words and citing suitable books to NEGATE a fellow christian. I prefer to invite people who don't know to come and enjoy the Grace of God. Have a good day.

Jessicha:
i brought up new earth ? lolz, jessicha wrote 2 pet 3:13 ?

Okay u didn't bring it up. What did u use to negate the fact that we are all going to heaven, if we live the Christlike life?

Jessicha:
your statement is EVERYBODY go to heaven, how then can u reconcile that with the fact that there will be a new earth ?

Me:We are all going to the house in ikoyi once daddy completes it
Jessica: No. Ur wrong. Some of us will live upstairs and some will live downstairs.

There will be a new earth and some wil go there meaning we aren't all going to heaven abi?
Who goes to heaven who stays in the new earth and why. If u can't answer me. Stop this. Its unnecessary. Stop poking holes.. It isn't our mission on earth.

Jessicha:
okay, 2 peter 3:13 makes it clear that there will be a new heaven and a NEW EARTH.

if everybody go to heaven, tell me the purpose of the new earth ?

Its for you to tell me. You brought up new earth. Tell me who goes to these places and their qualifications

Jessicha:
thats the problem wit people , am saying ? or the bible said ?

2pet 3:13 talks about a new heaven and a new earth . so its not me saying it but the scriptures, am happy u see it in ur bible.

You are negating my postulation of going to heaven by saying there's also earth for some to go to. I know this is in the bible. . but how does that correct my statement?

Why are you motivated to negate people even when eventually we are pulling from the same bible and arriving at the same point.

Jessicha:
criticize ? because I gave u scripture that negates ur view

The word negates tho... Smh. U seem so proud of urself. I'm hppy for you.

Ur scripture didn't negate my view o. Perception of heaven aside. The scripture still follows my postulation that we are all going to heaven if we declare Christ and live The Christlike life. I don't care where heaven literally is. I am talking about the expected end of the person who follows the Christ life. Simple.

Jessicha:
those verses establish that its not everyone that will go to heaven, majority of the righteous will INHERIT THE EARTH!!!

Looooooooooooooool! So you're saying there are two places to go to? Majority of the righteous will inherit the earth... And the rest? And what qualifies the admission into either of the two?

solite3:
yes social media,radio,television etc can also be used to reach millions.yes I go soul winning for christ.have a nice day

Save the people that don't know... Preach to them and quit arguing with people non believers assume are fellow Christians as you. If theres no unity in Christendom... And it has been divided into factions... Soul winning is no longer for God... But for your faction. Its sad. This is not just to you... But to everyone on this thread... Fellow christian arguing "My Christianity is better than yours. Its the right way". I ask you this one question... Is that why we are here?

Jessicha:
ewo! to explain scripture na wahala ehn , who ask you all this ?


just say I dont Know

I just refuse to argue ... Is this the meek attitude that inherits the earth, criticising others?

Jessicha:
@bold , Matthew 5:5 , psalm 37: 9-11 , are they lies ?

Matt 5:5 - blessed r the meek for they shall inherit the earth.

Psalm 37: 9-11 - for evil doers shall be cut off but they that wait upon the lord shall inherit the earth for yet a little while and the wicked shall not be yea thou shall diligently consider his place and it shall not be but the meek shall inherit the earth and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

Relevance?

Do u take the bible literally or figuratively. Heaven is a place as described in these texts. I don't know what you are talking about.

n3xt:
Who are you? A contemporist or just another avid lover of modern architecture.

You just hit the nail on the head.

Lol! I'm obsessed with buildings, and construction as a whole. I have seen the attitude of some professionals in the industry and its appaling. I'm a member of the RICS, and I like to watch patiently and quietly as people like Egunmogaji huff and puff.

EgunMogaji:
Oh puleeze, lots of attempt at using big words but you failed in the execution.

Your write up tells me all I need to know about you professionally.

So how are they hanging?

You remind me of a few who have come to my office one way... And left the other. This is unnecessary. I only stated my point of view. ... You d.don't need to b an unpleasant human being. How dd I use big words in my last post tho?

EgunMogaji:
You should hire a Quantity Surveyor.

Hey, @Tossen, how far madam?

. After ur epistle on how helplessly irrelevant I am... There's no need to further throw jabs. Help the man with his small problem while I focus on industrial and commercial projects.

EgunMogaji:
Trust me, I understand that you have to lash out but I'm far from ignorant. Please don't hate me because you specialise in an almost worthless arena of construction

I'm not buying your scare tactics. QS is not needed on most of the projects being discussed on here.

You can market your skills to those doing industrial building or financing their project.

If you're brave enough set up a poll on the usefulness of QS to us here.

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"Quantity Surveyors

Quantity surveyors (QS’s) are commonly used in commercial construction projects and are a familiar face on housing development projects, but they also play a major (and essential) role in the kind of projects that self-builders and renovators take on. In simple terms, a QS will provide a detailed assessment of the materials you will require for your project (based on the detailed building drawings you’ll need to get drawn up for submission for Building Control approval) and use these quantities to come up with a detailed and accurate analysis of the costs of the project as a whole.

Many building contractors will pay a QS to produce their quote for a project. The more detailed and accurate the information they are given, the more accurate the estimate will be.

According to Claire Barratt from the RICS: “There will be QS’s that specialise in self-builds and they will normally come from a residential property development background. As such they will be used to dealing with cost value comparisons and costs-to-complete exercises during the works.

“ Quantity surveyors can assist on a self-build by being involved in the creation of the original budget used for loan security. A chartered valuation surveyor will do the residual valuation but the quantity surveyor can produce the estimate/cost plan for the works. This means the self-builders have realistic and achievable budgets before they start, and any loans taken out on the project will reflect the true cost as well as the project’s value.

You can use a QS at the start of the project to come up with, at the simplest level, a ‘take-off’ of quantities and costs based on your building drawings. However, some self-builders employ a QS during the project to ensure that costs do not spiral out of control. On this basis, the arrangement would be on a supervisory fee basis, i.e. a percentage of the build costs."

https://www.homebuilding.co.uk/using-quantity-surveyors/

Its OK. I wasn't lashing out. What you av believe for a long time one single post cnt correct. I didn't even bother reading...càant imagine he hard u r trying to defend ur ignorance. One profession in the makeup of an industry is irrelevant. Na wah o . see learned arrogant professionals

solite3:
thanks for ur concern.first the bible is not the work of man but that of God.secondly I never said Jesus was not God. Thirdly I cannot allow deceivers to mislead people to hell with their false teachings, (we are talking of souls here) u remember d story of Paul and the girl with the spirit of divination, Paul ignored her for many days after Paul reasoned that if he continue to ignore her, she will mislead people and Paul's work will be unfruitful.

if you care so much about souls you would go about teaching from door to door saving them from wrong teachings. But well... I don't know if u do sha.
Have a swell day.

Jessicha:
@bold , Matthew 5:5 , psalm 37: 9-11 , are they lies ?

The rest of the part of that sentence is just as important. That's part of ur problems... Tearing words apart to find flaws to argue upon. That is not Christianity. By the way... Nomatter how much all ur efforts are... You can never be worthy of heaven. Our righteousness is just like a filthy rag. Its Gods grace thru Christ that takes us to heaven and it is an arrogance towards God to think u can work to earn heaven. It is even a sin in itself thinking u may be holy enough. Godade it clear and he gave us Jesus. All we need do... I declare and accept him in our lives and also tell others.

solite3:
first of all everything is wrong with u agueing God's word secondly it not my assertion that Jesus is the most high it is in the bible even dolphineheart agreed Jesus had God's nature.u re not Elihu.Elihu had d spirit of God which u do not av.

See... The JW is like a trouble seeking husband. He is a fault finder waiting for u to say something he has been told is wrong so he can correct u... Then they defend it with Elihus act. How has that drawn us closer to achieving the Christlike life. ? Because that is what we should aspire to not correctness. Even the bible u all are sweating over is a flawed work of man. All u need is the main instructions that move ur life towards the goal not insisting on the correctness of how things went down. I saw u repeatedly saying Jesus Christ is not God yet ur counterpart keeps insisting u said so therefore the purpose of all ur argument is not only defeated, it is causing u to leave the place with more sin than u came with. My 2 cents sha.

EgunMogaji:
Oh puleeze, not that again.

Na Cocoa house dem wan build?

That's where the ignorance begins. Na cocoa house? Architects and civil engineers refuse to be equipped with cost effectiveness. The QS is usually the only one putting such to mind. But if u are saying this then I hope u are not part of the industry. .because it will b absurd for a professional in the construction Ind to assume the QS Is only needed when the structure is off the cocoa house category. U just proved my statement above. "You all don't even know it."

Adazlolly:
Thank you dear, I will surely do just that, one step at a time. I have always thought that I can't be able to diet but this time around, I am overcoming it.. Amen.

Just know your actions are brave . you have taken a courageous step and I hope you find the strength to keep it up. Wish u all the best.

Barristter07:
tossen




Good evening, how are you ?

there is nothing wrong with argument, in as much as its towards getting an accurate knowledge of things.


"I would present my case before Him And fill my mouth with arguments." Job 23:4




the purpose is not forgotten, I engage solite3 based on his assertion that our Lord Jesus Christ is the most high Jehovah God. Just as Elihu aim to correct the three friends of job when he discovered their words are not true.

and all evidences on this thread proves Christ is under the authority of someone, therefore he cant be the most High as claimed by solite3 - 1 Cor 11:3

u are even arguing about arguing. Well keep it up helping God forgetting that God is God and argument is not the assignment God gave us. Good luck. Serve God your way and I will serve him mine

Barristter07:
solite3



Like I said earlier, the next you can now do is to reveal youself as a DECEIVER . lets start from the bold.


"Father, if you are willing, please take this cup of suffering away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not mine. "
Luke 22:42

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You people will argue this thing till the end of time and forget your true purpose. Cheiiiii!

The truth remains, if all christians practice evangelism like the JW, the world would be a better place. The most arrogant chriatians are never found in their midst. But the JW has focused on never accepting any christian unless their "doctrine" and belief system has been changed. That is not the Jesus Christ way.

Whether hell or hell fire. Everyone is going to heaven as long as we declare christ is the son of God who died for our sins. Its a sin thus century old arguments and rejections of one another between christian. Its not even christian to separate from one another. Holding on to doctine like life itself is not christianity. You should hold on to the christ way of life and set aside the rules and indoctrinations that result in chaos. Nobody knows God more than God. But he makes known his will for us. Why dont we focus more on Gods will, and the purpose of christs coming, than on who said what in a bible written by imperfect man, complied by different man

n3xt:
That's why I said I'll want to use something like that on a roof slab

That would b nice if the building is in a dense area where it isnt the tallest and is not susceptible to strong winds.

postmann:
Hmmm! It's not about me, but your submissions are laced abundantly with the first person pronoun "you".

Some of your points are refutable but yet, I find your desire to wake up this thread more intriguing than your post itself. This you haven't come to grips with.

What spurs your interest on this thread?

Ive made comments long ago on this thread. I saw "new" and opened to read. Im not always here.
I replied your comments concerning something. I was particularly addressing the comment, without even taking note of who u are, your name, age sex or location.
All i did, was mk my own opinions in response to urs. Not as a counter to ur person.

Everybodys point is refutable in every othr persons eyes because we are different. Thats why we humans endeavour to be diplomatic in order to avoid unnecessary chaos.

Have a nice evening sir/madam.

Ytechconst:
If truly you believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and you read your bible and digest it in the right way then how will you interprete this bible passage:


Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Do not quote me wrong. The Lord will still bless you but my brother blessing has measures. If you look at the last sentence of the passage it says

“AND POUR YOU OUT BLESSING THAT THERE SHALL NOT BE ROOM ENOUGH TO RECEIVE IT”

So my obedience makes me have more than enough. So whenever i am obeying God through tithing and seed sowing i am certain that the money is leaving my pocket but not leaving my life because its gonna come back to me in large measures.

.WHY DONT WE EAT OUR TITHES BEFORE THE LORD as stated in the bible.....
Deut 14:22 Each year, you shall separate the
tithes out of all your crops which spring forth
from the earth.
23 And you shall eat these in the sight of the
Lord your God, in the place which he will choose,
so that his name may be invoked there: the
tenth part of your grain and wine and oil, and the
firstborn from the herds and your sheep. So may
you learn to fear the Lord your God at all

Laws create chaos. Thats not what christ died for. He died to raise us above the laws

Flamezreal:
please I need urgent answer on the length of recession I needed to take from a survey beam on a land property. The beam actually belongs to a neighboring plot of land that is bordering mine. This neighbor has constructed a foundation exactly where his beam is and now he's telling me he has to take five feet farther from his beam which I considered as an encroachment for I'm yet to identity where my beam is, but I recall really need a knowledge to counter this man's move before the arrival of the papers.
Thanks

that man was supposed to take his recess away from the point not from the point and then into yours. That is a crime. Whats done is done. Just dont let him encroach. Identify your beam first. He was supposed to go 3m away from his, not build on the beam.

postmann:
Hmmm! Swift and rash you come at me. And you seem armed. What do you want?

Heres the problem. You think is about you.

abdulwastecx:
I don't think you incure more cost from rendering ( under the decking), If any of polystyrene, clay block or concrete block is used. The rendering is plastering of the under decking after the work has been completed, similar operation is carried out on solid slab under decking.

Hall ways in build, school and hotels have life load of 3.0kN/m2, such load is can be carried continently by waffle slab.

Waffle slab without permanent former such as polystyrene or clay block cost more during finishing and requires good artisans

How much will the workman collect, because rendering and painting waffle pockets is more technical. The volume of paint is also twice from my last calculations. Wait why are u defining rendering? and then using the word "plaster." Oh well, final finishes of waffle slabs used more cement mortar and paint that a plain slab. It also needs more technicl knowhow, therefor it costs more money.
Wht has load carrying got to do with this. Those facts have already been established. This is about cost.

Xtopher123:
In as much as what the OP is saying might be true, but I Disagree with his sentiment, no reasonable Architect would ma those mistakes he mentioned,

I'm an Architect in the making and I've come to realise that Our structural engineers in Nigeria are Lazy and don't want to be given tasking jobs.

A Senior Architect once told me - If you cannot design what an Engineer cannot build thn youre not an Architect..

Op there is nothing that cannot be built, it's a matter of the type of material being used,ost engineers only think of the Conventional Concrete and steel forgetting that the world has gone beyond that..

Browse and search for Architect Pier Liungi Nervi, his works would explain better , he did a lot of designs people/structural Engineers thought would never stand, but he built them because he had knowledge of Structures

I once asked a Structural Engineer if he could span a cantilever of 30m, his response almost made me weep for Engineers, He said 'How do you expect to span a cantilever over a plot of land? And I was baffled, Most of the Stadiums you watch on TV are actually spanning more than that.. And yet a so called structural Engineer said it's not possible..

As far as I'm concerned I would not let any Engineer interfere with my design, whatever he can't achieve, some else would

Uncle, theres nothing that cannot be built. But not all buildings a realistically effective. Architecture is not fine art . Many aspiring and young architects think it is. Wowing a client isnt about building a castle in the air, but coming up with minalistic ideas that serve all possibilities. I challenge most of you cant design a square home.