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Ritchiee:
Can you disprove this facts that you are way below the SW?


Lagos - Lagos is beginning to lose most its
investors to neighbouring state, Ogun following the
increase in incentives offered by the state.
The Manufacturers Association of Nigeria (MAN) in
its latest economic review (2015) said the
production value recorded by the Ogun Industrial
Zone accounted for 69 percent of total production
for all zones, thus re-confirming Ogun as the
industrial hub of the nation .
According to findings, investors get rebates on
land, good road network and better security of
plants, machinery and assets in industrial zones in
Ogun State. Certain types of taxes paid by these
investors in Lagos are also accepted by Ogun
State, thus preventing them from paying multiple
levies in two states.
Ogun also has a one-stop-shop platform, where
investors are given access to understudy available
natural and mineral deposits, as well as
agricultural potential of the state. Many
manufacturers also say there is less harassment
from touts in Ogun. Also, there is less traffic
gridlock in Ogun and cheaper and more available
accommodation for staff in the state.
In the last two to three years, more investments
have moved to Agbara, Igbesa, Abeokuta, Sango-
Otta, Ibafo, Mowe, Ijebu-Ode and Sagamu industrial
clusters, all in Ogun State, at the expense of Ikeja
and Apapa zones in Lagos which used to be the
hubs of investors.
In terms of output, Ogun turned out N265.27
billion in output in half year 2015 as against
Lagos’ N88.6 billion. Similarly, Ogun produced
goods worth N306.58 billion in the whole of 2014,
while Lagos churned out output worth N274.41
billion within the period.
Some of the new investors which berthed Ogun in
2014 were Shongai Technologies Limited, Ijako in
Sango-Otta, Apples and Pears Limited, Ceplas
Farms Limited, Greenlife Bliss Healthcare Limited,
Sumo Steel Limited, among others.

http://m.news24.com/nigeria/National/News/lagos-loses-investors-to-ogun-20160209

Lamooo

I love how you guys embarrassed that/those ipod(s) .

That was crazy.
See upper cut on top injury.

Harfter1one:
No answer yet but insult and name calling. Shame

Me sef, I don wait I don taya soo teyyyiiiiiiiiii

omoelesa:
Oga,the op is not talking about ibos here(ibos dey ghana now),what the op is asking is, what does the SE as a region contribute to the revenue of the FG.

I think cc. Forgiveness will do justice to this thread.

ultron:
Look here mr man. If you can't counter what I wrote up there,don't quote me at all.

Counter what exactly?
How do you expect me to counter what doesn't exist, have no bases?

You should consider and read what the up put up there from page 1 and see how much impacts and contributions of SW region as at now.

Laawao

Shame

ultron:
Now to topic.

Truth,looking at Nigeria's source of income. The South East is not a major contributor. But Igbos don't claim SE provides much. Op lied on that one.
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Now let me answer it this way.
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NE,NC,NW(RESOURCES)- LOW
PEOPLE(Human Index)- LOW
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SW- GOOD (Due to Lagos and recently Ogun)
PEOPLE(Human Index)- LOW
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SE- LOW
PEOPLE(Human Index)- HIGH
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SS- HIGH
PEOPLE(Human Index)- LOW
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That's just a summary. OP I hope you're better informed now. Don't be a tribalist: It stunts your growth mentally.

PS-Op,in SW(Lagos) apart from multinationals the Igbos drive the economy of Lagos.

People like you are one of the reasons the OP opened this thread.

Isn't this an insult on intellectual capacity?
Alright, do provide a data or facts to back what you put up there.

The Op was right after all. None of you has been able to provide accurate answer.

You lot are just something else

Shame, shame, shame.

This is embarrassing to say the least

None has been able to answer the OP questions?

So shameful

The Op was right after all.
Rather than answer the questions raised by the Op ye'all resulted to attack.

Bad. Bad. Bad.

Facts but funny at the same time.

jcross19:
use your sense can a hausa man who have not spoke yoruba before but learned it for past a year know how to write it perfectly after a year? How long did it take you to write in english? After kg to nursery to primary then you can now write a bit in english, it took you almost 6 to 9 years to learn english language not talk of a language you barely hear about. That's a lie. Look wikipedia can be distorted because at the end of wiki they publish it there that if you have additional information you can add it up. So wiki can twisted as well.

Lol

You should consider my precious/first reply before I referred to WIKI,ok?
Infact if you want more and more prove,link I don't mind oo

And,yes by the way I love your story line..very touching and heart warming

Eyah o

Alight, I can't write nor speak good english,are you good,happy now? Good boi
Now what you gonna do about that?

Wait..? How does that change the facts I put up there,that yoruba man taught ibo how to speak english?
Ek english isn't my father language.
You can check my precious,recent mentions for manageable english
We dey try nah

Anyway thanks for the correction

Furk english boi

ikechuk0:
Oooooooh grandpapa with the licking @ss for mouth is going to retaliate. Oooh I'm so scared. See me shake. Mschewwww. Did I quote you? Did I call you? No be you came and disturb me on here? Now you're complaining and crying like a biatch and threatening rubbish that you obviously think I should be scared of. Nonsense. Next time, don't disturb me with crap if you want peace and quiet. Waka. Go sleep

You know? I am not surprise with how you conduct yourself in the pub as it's well known that you are not well brought up.

One of the reason you don't get along with you mother.

OneNaira, there is a lot of fixing and research you need to do about how you were brought into the world.

ikechuk0:
Grandpapa go take your nap, it's past your bedtime and stop screeching rubbish on my mention. Onye ara

Stay off my mention already lest I retaliate,chukwudi.

ikechuk0:
Wtf is this monkey screeching about? The Arewa are running around visiting all self claimed "leader" of each region in south and even some by tribe yet Una are left out. That's what they saying. Well the arewa know you are docile @ss who will jump if they say so why waste a trip. No be so? Losers

Bad bad bad upbringing is still tormenting your soul onenaira.
Must you curse?


Then while the lamentation and what prompted your first comment if it was all that good as you are trying to make me belief now?

Wetin dey do your head onekobo
I go slap you

ichukwu48:
It's because a fucking ikwerre is leading ohaneze now that's why. I'm sorry but it's the f2king truth cause I know SE Igbo will jump on me for saying this but it's the f2king truth and I'm not going to sugarcoat. When anioma led ohaneze, during umuzurike trial, ohaneze intervened repeatedly to aid him but now an ikwerre is leading, look wtf ohaneze has become. They are just a useless old men running around like headless chicken.

I don't care if Una call me ethnocentric on this but I will say this, should have continued passing the leadership to anioma. We led better. I'm starting to believe the ikwerres are just saboteur people. We look at Amaechi act to GEJ and now ohaneze to Nnamdi under the leadership of an ikwerre, it says alot. Hell history supports it too

Let arewa continue meeting ohaneze. Not one single Igbo listen to ohaneze anymore. Let ohaneze continue scamming them. Na their time dey waste

Confused and lost onenaira.
According your quote above everything portray anger, frustration. But then in your second or third comment you went ahead to say " Yorubas(SW) are insignificance hence while they weren't invited?


Why are you this confuse?

Reading through the comments on here 50% Ibo see this development as an opportunity to mock SW region while %50 detest and wailing over this development.

Why una this confuse now

deflover:
what tune did I change.....dis one no well....na you get kunu brain.

Go ahead and carry out the assignment I gave to you. Then try and consider a new brain that can engage in a mature debate then come back here.

Earlier on you were trying to make us belief that SW are parasites they are more of civil servants? But then I proved you wrong that there are more Ibos in civil servants. But no you had to pretend and still went ahead to emphasised on your foolishness.

And then you kept hammering over budget allocation but I asked you to do your research over and how the 2016 budget was generated yet you cease not but kept wailing like a helpless Christmas chicken.


Where are you from by the way?

deflover:
really and you were trying so hard to hide where I talked about allocations....I guess only igbos get allocations too....ode

To whom much is given much is expected.
And you have to change the tune now after the reality is staring in your akpu face, abi?
Most of you are just ignorant.
Go check 2016 budget before you come here to spill trash.

All you know how to do is insult, curse nothing is in your head.

deflover:
same oil dat is used to feed your civil servants and run your state govt....oya make una leave d oyel chop amala or use amala for allocation na.....stewpid people

Most of you are ignorance of the reality.

Dude, haven't you heard?
There are more Ibos in the civil servants than any other tribe
It's ibos you are feeding..

Geet ur lazy ass to work

Eyah

01Mysticdon:
please am sorry for calling you werey

Iisorriiite

1Hafter:
Ugorji Clinton Ejikeme, Keep deceiving yourself.

The dude is new here, I thought

If no be say, out gallant warriors,soliders don chill for now

One chance, gbeege.
Heheheh

I beg, I no fit laff jare

01Mysticdon:
Werey am not igbo

Curse all you want.
I am not your mate, chino and co knows better.

01Mysticdon:
still we are feeding you people.

You no nothing about the country you are living. All you know is " oyel,oyel, our oyel.
You must be an ibo guy

Oya, go, read about 2016 budget and stop wasting my time here.

01Mysticdon:
Nigga this is Niger Delta, we are feeding you people.

Feed who exactly?
Your eyes go clear soon, oyel is at 30$ don dey lose value.
Wonder shall never end

danduchi:
Why are u guys blaming Jude... He brought same Psquare to stardom. Things went bad when Peter married gold digger Lola who has virtually bleeped everyone in Lagos. Their mother forsee this if he marries Lola, bit by bit Psquare is breaking

You are a disgrace to mother and father hood.

Here is the same wiki you provided :


Crowther began translating the Bible into the Yoruba language and compiling a Yoruba dictionary. In 1843, a grammar book which he started working on during the Niger expedition was published; and a Yoruba version of the Anglican Book of Common Prayer followed later. Crowther also compiled A vocabulary of the Yoruba language,[12] including a large number of local proverbs, published in London in 1852. He also began codifying other languages. Following the British Niger Expeditions of 1854 and 1857, Crowther produced a primer for the Igbo language in 1857, another for the Nupe language in 1860, and a full grammar and vocabulary of Nupe in 1864.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Ajayi_Crowther

I am sure Yoruba own wiki too?
I am yet to figure out why you call Yoruba liars

Link, fact #1




A History of the Igbo Language

compiled by Frances W. Pritchett
 

Sources: Louis Nnamdi Oraka, The Foundations of Igbo Studies (Onitsha: University Publishing Company, 1983), and personal research. The Oraka book is excellent, and I strongly recommend reading the whole of it (64 pages plus bibliography). See also the important text *The Official Igbo Orthography as recommended by the Onwu Committee in 1961*.


*THE ISUAMA IGBO STUDIES (1766-1900)*
*THE UNION IGBO STUDIES (1900-1929)*

*THE GREAT ORTHOGRAPHY CONTROVERSY (1929-1961)*

*THE EMERGENCE OF THE SPILC (1948-1972)*

*THE STANDARD IGBO PERIOD (1972-)*

pre-1500s == A form of writing called nsibidi, using formalized pictograms, existed among the Igbo and neighboring groups. It died out, probably because it was popular among secret societies whose members did not want to discuss it publicly. In 1904, T. D. Maxwell, Acting District Commissioner in Calabar, was the first European to learn about the existence of nsibidi. Apart from nsibidi writing, the Igbo acculturated themselves effectively by informal methods (Oraka pp. 13,17).
 


THE ISUAMA IGBO STUDIES (1766-1900)

1500s-1700s == Inhuman slave trade forced Africans to North America and West Indies.

1766-1900 ==Isuama Igbo studies period. Isuama Igbo: type of dialect used in Igbo studies as a standard dialect by emancipated slaves of Igbo origin settled in Sierra Leone and Fernando Po (now part of Equatorial Guinea) in the 1800s (Oraka p. 20).

c.1766 == G. C. A. Oldendorp, a German missionary of the Moravian Brethren, went to their West Indies Caribbean mission (Oraka p. 20).

1777 == Oldendorp produced a book, Geschichte der Mission der Evangelischen Bruder auf den Carabischen (History of the Evangelistic Mission of the Brothers in the Caribbean). It contained a few Igbo words, numerals, 13 nouns, 2 sentences. Thus he was the first to publish any material in Igbo (Oraka p. 21).

1789 == The Life of Olaudah Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa The African (London, 1789), written by a former slave, mentioned 79 Igbo words (Oraka p. 21). A good modern edition: London: Dawsons of Pall Mall, 1969 (2 vols.; ed. by Paul Edwards).

late 1700s-early 1800s == Igbo language study transferred from the West Indies and London to Freetown, Sierra Leone, and Fernando Po, because freed slaves were settled there, the larger number in Freetown (Oraka p. 65).

1828 == Mrs. Hannah Kilham, a Quaker mission teacher, published Specimens of African Languages Spoken in the Colony of Sierra-Leone. Included: Igbo numerals and some 50 Igbo nouns (Oraka p. 22).

1831 == Mrs. Kilham started a girls' school at Charlotte village, Sierra Leone. Formal education in vernacular languages is begun (Oraka p. 22).

1837 == MacGregor Laird published the wordlist he collected inside the Igbo homeland during the Niger Expedition of 1832-34 (Oraka p. 22).

1840 == Jacob Friedrich Schon, German missionary, reported that he had collected 1600 words in the Igbo language. His report remained unpublished (Oraka p. 22).

1841 == Edwin Norris, Assistant Secretary, Royal Asiatic Society, compiled wordlists from West and Central African languages to use in Niger expeditions. He used Laird's 70 words and others from two unknown sources (a manuscript, and an Igbo living in London) (Oraka p. 22).

1841 == Another Norris expedition on the Niger. He took two missionary linguists from the staff of the CMS (Church Missionary Society) in Freetown, J. F. Schon and Samuel Ajayi Crowther (the latter a Yoruba-born ex-slave and teacher), along with twelve interpreters, including Igbo who came from emancipated slave families settled in Freetown. John Christopher Taylor and Simon Jonas were among these. No permanent mission was founded. Schon was interested in Igbo and Hausa. At a stopover in Aboh, he tried to communicate in Igbo but was disappointed that people did not understand him. He then abandoned Igbo study for some twenty years (Oraka p. 23).

1843-48 == Morrick (missionary in Fernando Po) and John Clarke, Baptist missionary, together collected vocabularies of African languages. Clarke published them in 1848, including 250 words and a few numerals written in Igbo. 24 Igbo dialects were represented, including Aro, Bonny, Ndoli and Agbaja (Oraka p. 24).

1854 == Lepsius, German philologist, produced international "Standard Alphabet" for all world languages to use (Oraka p. 25).

1854 == S. W. Koelle, German missionary, published Polyglotta Africana, with a vocabulary gathered from liberated slaves in Sierra Leone. Contained some 300 Igbo words representing five dialects: Isoama, Isiele, Agbaja, Aro, Mbofia (Oraka p. 23).

1856 == Crowther and Jonas stayed together in Lagos, where Jonas taught his master Igbo (Oraka p. 24).

1857 == Crowther produced the first book in Igbo, with Jonas's help. Isoama-Ibo Primer has 17 pages, with the Igbo alphabet, words, phrases, sentence patterns, the Lord's Prayer, the Ten Commandments, and translations of the first chapters of Matthew's Gospel. Thus Crowther became the first to use the Lepsius "Standard Alphabet" (Oraka p. 25).

1857 == Dr. William Baikie's ship berthed at Onitsha. On board were Crowther and his missionary team, including Igbo speakers Simon Jonas and Rev. J. C. Taylor. Crowther established a mission and left it in Taylor's hands. In less than a week Taylor had opened a school for young girls. Isoama-Ibo Primer served as their textbook (Oraka p. 25).

1861 == J. F. Schon apparently resumed Igbo studies, publishing his Oku Ibo: Grammatical Elements of the Ibo Language, written in the Isuama dialect, using Lepsius orthography (Oraka p. 26).

1870 == CMS in London used Lepsius orthography to publish An Ibo Primer, by F. W. Smart, a catechist posted in 1868 to the first outpost Christian Station in Niger Delta. Crowther, first Bishop of the Niger, posted him there with W. E. L. Carew. In the 1870s Smart and Carew each published an Igbo Primer and carried out translation works on church liturgy (Oraka pp. 25-26).

1880s == Crowther thought his Niger Mission was collapsing, since the Igbo dialect he chose was not a "living" dialect spoken by a particular group of the Igbo. The CMS realized its mistakes and decided to give up its effort to use one dialect only (Oraka p. 27).

1882 == Crowther wrote Vocabulary of the Ibo Language, the first comprehensive dictionary in Igbo. In 1883 Crowther and Schon jointly revised it and added more words. They finally came out with Vocabulary of the Ibo Language, Part II, an English-Ibo dictionary. By this time, Igbo had had some 50 books and booklets published in it (Oraka p. 27).

1882 == Britain enacted the first education ordinance to control and direct educational activities of Christian missions in what later became her West African colonies. It provided grants-in-aid conditional on the teaching of reading and writing of the English language only. This caused a stalemate in the development of many West African languages (Oraka p. 29).

1885 == RCM (Roman Catholic Mission) reached Igboland but did not seem to be interested in the study of the Igbo language (Oraka p. 28).

1891 == Bishop Crowther died (over 80), and the Isuama-Igbo period died with him. By this time two young men, the Englishman T. J. Dennis and the Sierra Leonean Henry Johnson, had joined the mission (Oraka p. 27).

1892 == Julius Spencer, an Onitsha-based Sierra Leonean missionary, published An Elementary Grammar of the Igbo Language. This was revised by Archdeacon Dennis in 1916 (Oraka p. 30).
 


THE UNION IGBO STUDIES (1900-1929)
 

1900-29 == Union Igbo Studies period.  Refers to Igbo version developed by CMS, aimed at binding or writing all Igbo dialects. Used terms understood in Onitsha, Owerri, Unwana, Arochukwu and Bonny dialects, keeping idioms and proverbs common to all.  Intended to be a sort of "central" or "compromise" Igbo, playing the role of a literary medium for the Igbo people.  The most prominent work published in Union Igbo was the Holy Bible (Bible Nso). The Union Igbo period saw major translation works. Missionaries collected materials on Igbo culture, including proverbs, folktales, riddles and customs (Oraka pp. 28, 29).

1900-29  == Rev. Thomas J. Dennis was the best, most prolific student of Igbo and writer of his time. He used an Igbo Language Translation Committee, including Igbo indigenes, to translate Pilgrim's Progress and some catechisms into Igbo. He also translated the Union Reader and the Union Hymnal. He died in a shipwreck in 1917 (Oraka p. 28).

1904 == A. Gabot, French missionary, produced a trilingual dictionary, English-Ibo and French Dictionary (Oraka p. 30).

1905 == Niger Mission saw a need to adopt a compromise dialect if the Bible were to be translated into a generally understood Igbo. CMS sent Dennis from Onitsha to Owerri to see about locating the headquarters of Igbo language studies there. Went with Alphonsus Onyeabo, an Onitsha-born catechist who later became a bishop. Dennis reported that Egbu, near Owerri, would be the ideal site, because the purest Igbo dialect was spoken there. CMS approved. Dennis, Onyeabo, and T. D. Anyaegbunam went to Egbu and opened a station  (Oraka p. 29).

1907 == P. C. Zappa, a French missionary, compiled a bilingual dictionary, Essai de Dictionnaire Francais-Ibo ou Francais-Ika, with the help of a catechist, Mr. Nwokeabia.  Zappa rightly saw Ika as an Igbo dialect and not as a language in itself  (Oraka p. 30).

1909 == Dennis and the others completed translation of the New Testament, the last part of their work.  Lepsius orthography was used. Dennis replaced "ds," "ts" and "s" with "j," "ch" and "sh."  Controversy ensued about the dialect used (Oraka p. 29).

1912 == Rev. G. T. Basden published Niger Ibos, a collection of Igbo customs and traditions (Oraka p. 30).

1913-1914 == Northcote W. Thomas produced Anthrological Report on the Igbo-Speaking People of Nigeria, in 6 volumes. Part II and Part V were devoted to Igbo-English (based on Onitsha and Awka dialects) and English-Igbo (with many words from the western Igbo dialect of Asaba) dictionaries, respectively (Oraka p. 30).

1916 == Archdeacon Dennis revised and enlarged Spencer's 1892 grammar (Oraka p. 30).

1920 == Phelps-Stokes Fund (American philanthropic organization interested in education of world's black people) sponsored two commissions to Africa. Subsequently (1922) it published Report on Education in Africa: Study of West, South and Equatorial Africa, recognizing the importance of the mother tongue in education of children (Oraka p. 31).

1923 == Isaac Iwekanuno wrote the first historical essay in the Igbo language, Akuko Ala Obosi, in Obosi dialect (Oraka p. 30).

1925 == The Phelps-Stokes Report prompted the British Colonial Office to set uup an Advisory Committee on Native Education in its African colonies, stressing the importance of the vernaculars (Oraka p. 31).

1926 == The Education Ordinance and Code of 1926 was enacted, requiring that only the vernacular or English be media of instruction. The Board of Education in Nigeria was reorganized to conform to the provisions of the Ordinance. (Oraka pp. 32,33).

1926 == On June 29, 1926, linguists and others from Africa and Europe met in London and launched the International Institute of African Languages and Cultures (Oraka p. 32).

1927 == IIALC published a pamphlet, Practical Orthography of African Languages. 8 vowels and 28 consonants, with "gw," "kw," and "nw" added for Igbo sounds. The pamphlet used some international phonetic symbols. This was a radical change from the Lepsius orthography used by CMS for nearly seventy years. It started a heated controversy that almost suspended Igbo studies for more than thirty years (Oraka pp. 32,34).
 
http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00fwp/igbo/igbohistory.html


Now before you call yoruba liars, the link provided above is int'l and isn't own by Yorubas.

JaredNomak:
1891 == Bishop Crowther died (over 80), and the Isuama-Igbo period died with him. By this time two young men, the Englishman T. J. Dennis and the Sierra Leonean Henry Johnson, had joined the mission (Oraka p. 27).

1892 == Julius Spencer, an Onitsha-based Sierra Leonean missionary, published An Elementary Grammar of the Igbo Language. This was revised by Archdeacon Dennis in 1916 (Oraka p. 30).

You people are just being emotional.
You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free, Dude.


Now, you don't show up and call a whole tribe a liar.

Why? Because the link I provided is int'l, and it's not own by Yoruba.

Second every in that link proves and provides details! Breakdown for a common man to understand.

Lastly, it's a foreign sight which stand the test of time.

Now provide me 2 or more link to your claim and I will provide you like 5-10 that proved that handsome yoruba man taught ibo people how to speak English

Oya

xharder:
Dont mind them,just like they are doing with the benins...but trust the benins are not dulling too, they have brilliant scholars that can tell their history too

https://www.nairaland.com/2938573/benin-kingdom-vs-yoruba-race#42985639

You just don't call people a liar.
There are facts and things you must consider before you do so.

The British came and colonised africa,nigeria et al..they left/force their culture, language on us which is why till today english is nigeria official language and some nigerian bear english names.

You people are just being emotional for naddded!
Now answer this question if that was the case how come Yoruba own bini crown, why is it that till today that's the case and yoruba language is being used?

How was it possible that the master of the slave adopted slave language, names and culture? I.e, OBA?
Is Oba bini language?