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AgentOfAllah:
This is fair! So I cannot be blamed for my disbelief if Jesus hasn't revealed himself to me.


IF, and oh, what a BIG IF!



And then you justify your belief that the scripture is inspired by god using text from the same scripture under investigation. Consider the following scenario:
A man drives up to you one day
Man: I was sent by the Dangote to bring you to him as he wishes to give you =N=2,000,000,000
You: Was it Dangote that sent you?
Man: Yes, of course!

What's your next line of action?
a) Hop into the car and take your chances?
b) Remain skeptical and ask him for further proof?

My friend, it's like u are working so hard to confute God's Word and I wonder why. If u know sincerely, deep within ur hrt that what u believe is true, why are u wasting all this energy in trying to find a loophole with Jesus?

And coming to ur statement, oh yes, u will be blamed cos u heard d truth and rejected it. Jesus can only reveal Himself to u when u allow Him. He can't force His way into ur heart.

Jesus said, 'behold, I stand at d door of ur heart and knock. Whoever opens up to Me, I will come in and dine with him and he with Me.'

Jesus is knocking pn d door of ur hrt right now, will u open? The decision is entirely urs to make. Every choice u make in life is out of ur free will, ur own decision. God is no slave driver. And that's why to each man He gave a free will to choose right and wrong, blessing and curse but He advices us like the Father He is to choose life that we and our decendants will live.

God loves u to tell u dis is d path u shld follow but He can't make u do it. U choose so that in d end u won't turn and blame God for d consequences of d sinful choice u made.

But over and over again, man has blamed and continually blames God for the consequences of their actions. What u sow is wot u reap. If u sow sin, be sure u will reap corruption.

Next question u may ask me is, how do I know dat what it is d truth?

Faith.

I simply believed even tho humanly speaking d message of d cross sounds like foolishness but when I opened my heart in faith, tho not having any empirical evidence abinicio, God revealed d truth to me.

If u want to come to God, u must come like a child. Empty urself of all ur so called feeble wisdom and come. Cos as long as u harden up ur hrt and try to analyze, reason, rationalize and understand God, even if I explain from today til tomorrow, u will never see sense in wot I am saying.

I can only persuade u to give Jesus a try. Open up ur hrt to doing God's will and I promise u, u will see wot I am talking about.

Faith makes us believe even when we don't see bc we know God cannot lie. Human wisdom says, 'I must see before I believe'. Jesus said, ' blessed are those who believe who believe without seeing Me' John 20:29

I simply believed in Jesus even though I didn't see Him. I wasn't there when d Bible was written but I simply 'chose' to believe and I can testify that I have seen God at work in my life, in every of my affairs.

It's by faith that we understand that d universe was formed at God's command. I wasn't there but I believed it.

It's impossible to analyze God. He is beyond human and angelic imagination. That's why thru Jesus, He gives us His Holy Spirit who reveals and teaches us everything we need to know.

I have tasted God. I have experienced d wonders of His power. His S p rit dwells in me and bears me witness that wot I believe is true. He proves it in my life everyday. That's why I stayed. That's why I am resolute bc I see results. Jesus works.

If u really, deep within ur hrt, want to do God's will, am sure a part of u will know dat what I am saying is true. But d question again is: do u really want to do God's will? Just take a step further to believe. All u need do is open up ur hrt and ask God, "Lord show me d Truth. If Jesus is d Truth, show me."

Encounter Jesus and u'd see that there is no way u will encounter Him and remain the same.

Arguments about Jesus will take u no where. No mattet how u try to dispute it, it won't make Him less of who He is. If u want to know the truth, I invite u to experience Him for urself cos until then there's nothing I can do here any more. It will be like pouring water onto a stone.

I pray u make d right choice.

The exact replica of the 50 foot arch that formed the entrance of the Temple of Baal in Palmyra, Syria will be reproduced and erected in Times Square in New York and in Trafalgar Square London next month.

But that is just the first of many. They intend to build it in many more cities world over. They say it's in an attempt to preserve history. This was reported by New York Times here if you doubt the authenticity.

According to Michael Snyder of End of American Dream, the Temple of Baal (also called Temple of Bel) was a world famous landmark that was located in Palmyra, Syria. In August 2015, the temple, regarded as a “cultural relic,” was destroyed by ISIS.

Michael Snyder further gives insight on the implication of this very action:

"A lot of secret societies and occult groups have traditions that tell them that Nimrod/Marduk/Osiris/Apollo/Baal will someday be resurrected and will once again rule the world.

Could it not be possible they are actually erecting a temple for the Anti Christ next month?

There are occultists that take this stuff deadly serious and nothing this large gets space in either Times Square or Trafalgar Square by accident.

There are very powerful people out there that made this happen and perhaps someone should ask them what their intentions are."

Child sacrifice and bisexual orgies were the common rituals at the altars of Baal in the ancient times and now this same altar is about to be built not only in the heart of America's most important city but all over the world.

As recounted by Mark Barber,

"Ritualistic Baal worship, in sum, looked a little like this: Adults would gather around the altar of Baal. Infants would then be burned alive as a sacrificial offering to the deity.

Amid horrific screams and the stench of charred human flesh, congregants – men and women alike – would engage in bisexual orgies. The ritual of convenience was intended to produce economic prosperity by prompting Baal to bring rain for the fertility of “mother earth.”

*Do you know what it is to raise altars to Baal/Satan? An altar signifies a place of sacrifice and worship, where the divine and the human worlds interacted; a place of exchange, communication and influence (BibleStudyTools). Does that give you a hint?
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OgundeleT:
lols.. you are resolute that a story that was passed to you is true? you are resolute that the religion given to ur forefather through slavery is true? what make you to have a resolution that bible is true is the same reason why others of other religion believe there religion book is true. your bible is nothing but a mythology

Yes. Totally. Let me tell u this: I didn't give my life to Jesus bc I was born into a Christian home or because it wz handed down to me. I also have a past but my story changed when I discovered God for myself, not based on what I heard or what people told me. No. I had a personal encounter with God. That founded my resolution.

Pls note a' personal encounter with God'. This was exactly wot hapened to d disciples that made them know that Jesus was the One who is eternal life...they experienced Jesus.

John said, 'We proclaim to u d One who existed from d beginning, whom we have heard and seen.

We saw Him with our own eyes and touched Him with our own hands. He is d Word of life. This One who is life itself was revealed to us, and we have seen Him.

Now we proclaim and testify to u that He is d One who is eternal life. ' 1John 1:1,2

Jesus' disciples didn' t just believe in Him. They initially had their doubts but as they spent time with Jesus, they experienced Him. Jesus revealed Himself to them.

That's why when I talk abouy Jesus, I talk about Him with confidence bc I have experienced Him. He is so real and He is alive!

The Holy Spirit is d One who convicts me and teaches me everything I need to know (John 14:26)

Like I earlier said, I can't really explaine these things. It's d Holy Spirit that does a perfect job of it. It's beyond human understanding but all u need is to experience Jesus for urself then u'll knw dat d Bible is not a book of mythology.

Until u allow God reveal Himself to u, the Bible will always be a fictional book.

That's why Christianity is different from other religions bc Christianity is a lifestyle. It's an experience. We live it. We breathe it. We talk it. We don't do what we do ritualistically or out of obligation. We do it out of love for our God and Saviour.

All u need is experience Jesus and all ur question s will be answered. Don't harden ur hrt.

[quote author=OgundeleT post=44154689]lols.. you are resolute that a story that was passed to you is true? you are resolute that the religion given to ur forefather through slavery is true? what make you to have a resolution that bible is true is the same reason why others of other religion believe there religion book is true. your bible is nothing but a mythology [/quoteYes. Totally. Let me tell u this: I didn't give my life to Jesus bc I was born into a Christian home or because it wz handed down to me. I also have a past but my story changed when I discovered God for myself, not based on what I heard or what people told me. No. I had a personal encounter with God. That founded my resolution.

Pls note a' personal encounter with God'. This was exactly wot hapened to d disciples that made them know that Jesus was the One who is eternal life...they experienced Jesus.

John said, 'We proclaim to u d One who existed from d beginning, whom we have heard and seen.

We saw Him with our own eyes and touched Him with our own hands. He is d Word of life. This One who is life itself was revealed to us, and we have seen Him.

Now we proclaim and testify to u that He is d One who is eternal life. ' 1John 1:1,2

Jesus' disciples didn' t just believe in Him. They initially had their doubts but as they spent time with Jesus, they experienced Him. Jesus revealed Himself to them.

That's why when I talk abouy Jesus, I talk about Him with confidence bc I have experienced Him. He is so real and He is alive!

The Holy Spirit is d One who convicts me and teaches me everything I need to know (John 14:26)

Like I earlier said, I can't really explaine these things. It's d Holy Spirit that does a perfect job of it. It's beyond human understanding but all u need is to experience Jesus for urself then u'll knw dat d Bible is not a book of mythology.

Until u allow God reveal Himself to u, the Bible will always be a fictional book.

That's why Christianity is different from other religions bc Christianity is a lifestyle. It's an experience. We live it. We breathe it. We talk it. We don't do what we do ritualistically or out of obligation. We do it out of love for our God and Saviour.

All u need is experience Jesus and all ur question s will be answered. Don't harden ur hrt.

AgentOfAllah:
If you are going to claim anything is true, and you want that truth to be accepted by others, then there must be an external, independent, falsifiable yardstick, itself, beyond reproach, with which to assess the veracity of your claim. So my question to you is: how do you know everything the Bible says about Jesus is true? Bear in mind the implication of the word "everything". Supposing just half a statement about Jesus in the Bible is found to be false, your claim becomes entirely false.

It takes a personal encounter with Jesus to know that everything the Bible says about Him is true.

That's how I know. Becos I have personally encountered Him. He is real and He is alive! Until u encounter Jesus, the truth will only sound like fiction.

Also want to say this: all Scripture is God-breathed 2 Tim 3:16. For no prophecy at any time was brought by the will of man but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. 2 Pet 1:21

If d Scripture was inspired by God, how can there be any mistakes in it? How can d it be false?

Kay17:
The sum total of what you are saying is, you have a very strong conviction that Christianity is a true religion. Same with errors, we have deep convictions in our errors.

Yes. Jesus said, " Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether My teaching comes from God or whether I speak on My own." John 7:17

So dear, deep within urself, whose will are u really out to do in this life? Urs or God's? Search ur hrt.
That's ur key.

When ur genuine heart's desire is to do God's will in this life, I assure u, u will find the Truth. And in the Truth there is no error.

The Holy Spirit God puts inside of us when we recieve Jesus teaches us everything we need to knw and what He teaches is the Truth. John 14:26

thehomer:
It isn't a sacrifice at all. He knew he would be resurrected, he knew he was going to Heaven so he lost nothing and gained everythign according to you Christians. People have suffered far worse for far less as a reward.

Pls read Hebrews 10:1-18. It will tell u why Jesus' death is 'the' sacrifice, not 'a' sacrifice and I pray God to give u understanding cos personally I cannot convince u of these things. It's the Holy Spirit that convicts. He is the One who reveals the Truth to us. But then u must be willing to open up ur hrt to know d truth.

So d question is 'do u want to know d truth?'

' They hate the light and love darkness, you know why? Becos they do not want their sins to be exposed. They don' t want to be told that what they r doing is wrong.

They know in themselves it is wrong but they are not willing to give up that lifestyle. So what do they do? They go abt seeking ways, even misquoting Scriptures and carrying out campaigns, just to justify their sinful actions instead of embracing d truth'.

Pls think abt this.

OgundeleT:
I don't just know why you people always choose to be irrational whenever it comes to religion. bible said that somebody died, wake up the third day and later go to heaven to enjoy and you are claiming it is a sacrifice? what is spiritual in that?

It's not being irrational. It's being resolute about something I believe and know is true. Everything d Bible says abt Jesus is true and I am not ashamed to say this.

I pray God will open ur eyes to the Truth cos no matter how much u try to understand it tru human wisdom, u can't. Only God can give u that understanding and He will if only u'd stop fighting it and allow Him to.

OgundeleT:
so when you offer something and you later have it back so it is a sacrifice? if you claim his death is a sacrifice what of that of our soldiers killed in Maiduguri? i don't know why xtians always choose to be irrational whenever it comes to religion

Pls reread the article for more clarity. It answers ur question. Kindly note this: u cannot analyze spiritual matters with human wisdom. We should stop trying to analyze and dissect God because it's impossible and frustrating. All u need do is open up ur heart and believe.

am0sn0nyu:
I SUPPOSE ANY OF YOU AFRICAN CHRISTIAN CONVERTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A RATIONAL ANSWER

SOURCE

Here's your answer. Pls be kind enough to read through it. Thanks.


That Jesus gave up His life that you might be saved. That’s a sacrifice.
Jesus said in John 10:18, “No one can take my life from Me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded."

He had the power to take it up or lay it down but rather He chose to give it up for our sake so that through His death, we may have life and deliverance from sin/ fallen nature. That’s a sacrifice.

We can’t even begin to quantify His agony, the agony that made His sweat become like drops of blood as He prayed fervently in the garden of Gethsemane.

He was in anguish because He was completely man but He had to do it because He loves you. That’s a sacrifice.

Despite the fact that He knew the horrors of what He was going to face, He still said, “Yet Father not My will but Your will be done.” That’s a sacrifice.
They rejected Him. He took it.

They mocked Him. He took it.

They slapped Him. He took it.

They yelled at Him. He took it.

They insulted him, beat him, pushed Him around, flogged Him with a lead tipped whip, yet He did not say a word in defense of Himself.


They drove a crown of thorns into His weary head and subjected Him to a gruesome and shameful death. Still He bore it, all for you. That is SACRIFICE.

You were on His mind as He walked down that long and dreary road to Calvary. Jesus put you first. That is Sacrifice.

It was important He rose from death. For His resurrection symbolizes total victory over death. This is the foundation of Christianity. This is what makes us who we are.

If Jesus did not rise from death our faith is futile. What’s the use believing in a dead God? But for the fact He rose, we live without the fear of death because we know we have hope. We will rise again just as Jesus did.

A spiritually myopic person cannot understand this. To him it is plain foolishness but God has used the foolish things of the world to shame the wise (1 Cor 1:27)


So when you sit down to curse out the Lord who gave His life that you might be saved by just believing in Him, please remember that ‘Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.’ (John 15:13) It means that Jesus loves you with an unquantifiable love even when you despise Him.

Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. He is the ultimate sacrifice!
Happy resurrection. Enjoy your holiday.

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Yey! It's good Friday and I am overly excited. Can't wait to get to Church.

Well, yesterday I stumbled into this heart breaking question here on Nairaland: How is Jesus’ death a sacrifice if He rose from the dead? And it was followed by streams of heart breaking responses.

That question inspired this article.

That Jesus gave up His life that you might be saved. That’s a sacrifice.
Jesus said in John 10:18, “No one can take my life from Me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded."

He had the power to take it up or lay it down but rather He chose to give it up for our sake so that through His death, we may have life and deliverance from sin/ fallen nature. That’s a sacrifice.

We can’t even begin to quantify His agony, the agony that made His sweat become like drops of blood as He prayed fervently in the garden of Gethsemane.

He was in anguish because He was completely man but He had to do it because He loves you. That’s a sacrifice.

Despite the fact that He knew the horrors of what He was going to face, He still said, “Yet Father not My will but Your will be done.” That’s a sacrifice.

They mocked Him. He took it.

They slapped Him. He took it.

They yelled at Him. He took it.

They insulted him, beat him, pushed Him around, flogged Him with a lead tipped whip, yet He did not say a word in defense of Himself.

They drove a crown of thorns into His weary head and subjected Him to a gruesome and shameful death. Still He bore it, all for you. That is SACRIFICE.
You were on His mind as He walked down that long and dreary road to Calvary. Jesus put you first. That is Sacrifice.

It was important He rose from death. For His resurrection symbolizes total victory over death. This is the foundation of Christianity. This is what makes us who we are.

If Jesus did not rise from death our faith is futile. What’s the use believing in a dead God? But for the fact He rose, we live without the fear of death because we know we have hope. We will rise again just as Jesus did.

A spiritually myopic person cannot understand this. To him it is plain foolishness but God has used the foolish things of the world to shame the wise (1 Cor 1:27)

So when you sit down to curse out the Lord who gave His life that you might be saved by just believing in Him, please remember that ‘Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.’ (John 15:13) It means that Jesus does love you with an unquantifiable love even when you despise Him.

Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. He is the ultimate sacrifice!
Happy resurrection. Enjoy your holiday.

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