₦airaland Forum

brain54:
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You that your brain box is activated and working.


First of all in all I said what part of proper planning, management and control don't you understand?





What part of subsidy removal worth reconsidering can you not understand?


I emphasized If it can be properly planned.



You are slow to compare yourself with secondary students.



Now that subsidy was removed has they been a decrease in foreign loan obligations?


On the contrary they has been increase in loans this government has collected. Statistics shows it is the highest so far of all past governments. Outdoing loans of previous governments that operated subsidy. Loans no one sees what they are used for.



The major challenge of subsidy was corruption and smuggling of subsidised petroleum products to neighboring countries.



If that is tackled effectively then a major part of the subsidy puzzle is solved.



Nigeria sits on a gold mine of natural resources and opportunities yet is complaining of revenue (generating ) shortages and the only lazy idea tinubu can come up with is increased taxation and foreign loans.



Do you know nigeria is not meeting up with it's quota of barrels for crude production which they only just managed to increase recently- which still is a short fall of its 1.5 million barrels?

Talk about a person living at the bank of a river yet using spittle to wash himself.


There are hundreds of ways any serious government can generate revenue which the present government is sleeping on. Which can cover for subsidy.

The potential of Agriculture alone asides other lucrative prospects is enormous. Where are our cocoa, rubber, groundnut, oil palm farms? At a point in our history these are what sustained our country's economy.


These can provide jobs for many youths today who are unemployed. They are countries even in Africa till today whose economy is run and dependent on agricultural produce like Cocoa. Ivory Coast is an example, so is Ghana whose economies benefit from these produce. And they aren't even maximizing the full potentials yet because what they do is export the raw products rather than refine them to chocolate and other derivatives.



Yet you open mouth wahhh telling me about poor revenue generation and even insulting jabs when Nigeria has all these potential (and you probably comprehended less than 10% of the comment you mentioned.) That's where proper planning and management of both the economy and subsidy comes in.



It's only on nairaland that an empty barrel will call person names while proposing a barren argument.


Even daring me to address your empty points. Imagine that... but I don't blame you.

I blame myself for stooping too low and giving some of you audience here.


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I warned you not to digress and stick to the topic but you think writing epistle means making sense.

I stated the situation this government met, FX backlog, way and mean, upfront sale of crude oil, interest on loan that required immediate attention and you are talking nonsense.

How long will it take to develop other resources to the state of it generating revenue?

You can address my emphasised point and stop typing rubbish

GenerationNext:
Dangote's refinery can be subsidized.

Then the corruption returns as Dangote will increase the quota supply, the government agencies will add their own. Big boys bunkerer will return, fuel will diverted to neighbouring countries, and there won't be enough money to finance it, we increase our debt and the rat race continues

iwaeda:
What is the value of N10k in 2015 compared to N100k now. Nigeria has been secretly paying subsidy. How many states are pay minimum wages?

Now put your brain to task, what it's today value of 10k used to carry Olosho in 2015 and a 10k used to buy Dangote share in 2015?

Parachoko:
We're Never going back to the Dark Days wben States like Abia couldn't pay Civil Servants and Pensioners.

I remember he was struggling to pay 18k during Buhari, the Abia state civil servant will for ever be grateful to Tinubu if Otti is now paying current minimum wage

Ballmer:
When I see steel rollout consistently n continuous for 2 years from it i will believe you.

That why many of you are shouting hunger in the land, by that time forward thinking people would have taken position of the opportunity it avails. Siddon there dey doubt

richidinho:
No pinshure?

Tinubu has no legacy project even as president

You want picture of LCDA in Lagos? Or do you think they not existing?

Streetinvestor2:
The 79% are the majority and does not benefit from the money saved from it so it is OK it is returned back to them.You want it to be used for election rigging like over 100 billion for just osun election.
Whr are the mass cng vehicles after 3 yrs
I equally know as data boy you and fmly are in the 79%.No body who has good earnings with be doing 30k job.And majority of this 79% are equally in the North which made baron president with over 5 million votes

Stop speaking grammar and answer my question

If Tinubu era has made you poor then it means you were poorer during the previous governments.

Let me break it for you. Assuming your asset was 10m before Tinubu came in what will be your asset figure today.

If you put a flat for rent @ 200k during GEJ how much will you put it out for rent today.

If you were level 08 during GEJ regime, what level are you today?

Have you acquired skilled, education or training over the years or you were still stagnated at the level you were during GEJ regime.

Pls explain how people have become poorer simply because there are increased in cost of goods.?

How on earth do you expect a developing country not to have increasing trend in the price of goods and services?

Streetinvestor2:
I don't need to read the lengthy rubbish you wrote
Just answer Are Nigerians better now the drug baron removed the subsidy and looted the saved fund. Tell me the things that nigerians are now enjoying since the baron removed the subsidy don't forget that poverty and hunger has reached 79%

Are you among the 79%?

Racoon:
Meanwhile the unimaginable effects of the dubious Tinubu's so called "subsidy is gone" corruption is a staggering economic burden for this nation. Bunch of criminals

In other words returning subsidy simply mean Dangote refinery will pack up and Nigeria will lose saved fx used in importation.

Reason why many are poor is not because they are not hardworking but it's because they have refused to use their common sense.

brain54:
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I genuinely struggle to understand how any politician who claims to want a better future for Nigeria can seriously propose returning to a system that cost the country trillions of naira while doing very little to improve our productive capacity.


Since the removal of subsidy how has those trillions you talk about improved the economy and our productive capacity?


What atiku said was he would consider removing fuel subsidy.


What ever atiku says the next thing is to shout corruption whether he makes sense or not. Is Atiku the most corrupt politician or is he more corrupt than tinubu?


I'm not here to defend corruption. Atiku has never been indicted for any corruption case. I don't see people shouting corruption at tinubu who has a shodowy and known drug related cases with the even the FBI. Still he was voted in... even though it's widely alleged how is company alpha beta holds the lagos economy in a choke hold


Subsidy can be beneficial if properly planned and executed with the proceeds channeled into an aspect of the economy that can be beneficial to the Nigerians.


The porous borders through which petroleum products are smuggled to neighboring countries can be better strengthened and monitored to curb those criminal acts if any government is serious enough to block those loopholes.


Subsidy removal definitely is something that can or be should be reconsidered if it can be better managed and effectively planned. I said reconsidered.


What has been the benefits of the subsidy removal so far on the nigerian economy?


It's not by waking up one morning and saying subsidy is gone.


Cut atiku some slack abeg

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When typing on Nairaland, it is better to activate brainbox.

A sound secondary school student should know that fuel subsidy is no longer sustainable and was already on the brink of bankrupting the country.

If you were the president when Tinubu came in with barrage of liabilities in foreign loan obligation, backlog of fx to portfolio investors, way and mean of over 20 trillion, poor revenue, upfront sale of future oil, depleted foreign reserves, WHAT EXACTLY WILL YOU DO DIFFERENTLY.

Please, address the issue raised here and don't dodge it

The South is sitting on a keg f gun powder and we have failed to realised that culturally the North and the South are anthetical.

In 50 years time if the South didn't change the status quo, the entire South will be over in.

An average SE person marry at the age of 45, an average SW give birth to 2 kids, compared to the northerner who marry many wives at 16 and have more than 10 children.

If democracy still remains the form of government, in 50 years, it will only be the north that can produce the president and Sharia will be spread across Southern Nigeria while they use their growing population to conquer you.

To buttress this point, why is it that herdmen are still grazing in the city despite anti grassing law of different states? This is just a tip of what the South should expect if there's no structural restructuring.

NaijaHelper1:
The war to your doorstep was an offense to play defense strategy. Nobody had the permanent intention to take your land or whatever you're insinuating. It was intended as a route to get to the capital. No way we could get to the capital without crossing the west. The West could have declared neutrality if their intentions were good for the Igbos offering safe passage.

How do you intend to take the capital without causing collateral damage to the SW that host the capital?

Talking about betrayal, go and read your history, the father of betrayal emanated from the SE.

Maybe you didn't know NCNC was formed by a Yoruba man, Herbert Macauley, but what didn't Azikwe did when the baton was passed to him? He came for SW, replacing VC in the SW University with his people, as if that was not enough, he paired with NPC a northern party to form a coalition government using a party formed by a Yoruba man.

Ogbeni go and read your history book and get informed

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What's your problem this man, if they like they should divide it by state, my country will still be the richest of all

helinues:
Capital NO.

Our strength as a nation is the unity of all the regions

What unity are you talking about. the grasing of Fulani cow in the South, the killing and displacement of minority in the North and the bandit and terrorism coming down south.

What unity exist among regions?

It is only a shallow mind that would be comfortable with the present configuration of Nigeria.

The South is sitting on a keg f gun powder and we have failed to realised that culturally the North and the South are anthetical.

In 50 years time if the South didn't change the status quo, the entire South will be over in.

An average SE person marry at the age of 45, an average SW give birth to 2 kids, compared to the northerner who marry many wives at 16 and have more than 10 children.

If democracy still remains the form of government, in 50 years, it will only be the north that can produce the president and Sharia will be spread across Southern Nigeria while they use their growing population to conquer you.

To buttress this point, why is it that herdmen are still grazing in the city despite anti grassing law of different states? This is just a tip of what the South should expect if there's no structural restructuring.

Franking:
Obasanjo, a Yoruba man, was president for 8 years. Osinbajo, another Yoruba man, was vice president for 8 years. Tinumbu, a Yoruba man, wants 8 years as president...

Meanwhile, no Igbo has been president or vice president for even one day......since 1999....

I sympathize with you but until many of you learn the lesson of politics, humility and diplomacy, you will only remain a spectator

Truthissupreme:
that's tinubu base, if he doesn't get that number is it in ebonyi he will get it.

Meanwhile same thing will be happening in obi Igbo zone

What figure did Obi pulled as LP/ NDC in governorship election in Anambra?

HeadBoy9:
Such immediate betrayal. Nigerians made a statement by rejecting the bad government and hardship of the APC government yet Adeleke wants us back in it.

Simply because Tinubu is a Yoruba man and more so from his state.

All these sentiments will be the death of us. Vested interest mofos.

If one should cross examine this one, you'll discover he is an Obidient.

Streetinvestor2:
They went thr to show they are neutral as the baron didn't know about thr going
Data boys with unwise narratives

Make you sha no cry rigging in January 2027

Streetinvestor2:
Not interested in who u vote thr now or 2027
Anyone can be president without winning in that region. That is obi or Atiku. Thr 2 million votes from thr is not strong enough

You don't get it, Nigerians don't think in your closed, hateful, bigoted, parochial, jaundiced, egocentric. and emotional way

Streetinvestor2:
Really so he is leading. I was not really interested in the politics of that region. But if Adeleke wins and goes to work for BAT.Then he and his supporters don't have sense plus Davido

Okay, they should vote for that Agulu fraudster. Seems your head is paining you

ogolemati:
like allocating guys like you to busstops. So because they gave you ijesha busstop to manage now that's creating jobs

How old are you?

Your logic is so poor that even a gateman will make meaningful contributions than you do

Even when you remove Lagos, SW is still number 1. I wonder why SE won't just accept SW as his big brother.

mrvitalis:
What exactly are you talking about

1) PDP grew our GDP from $59bn to $575bn you don’t think that creates wealth ?
2) PDP reshaped our banking sector to having 25 strong banks you don’t think that creates wealth ?
3) you think Music and Nolly grew by chance ? You don’t know the billions government gave the industry as grant ?
4) we want to talk about the telecom industry ? You don’t think their explosion would have created wealth ?

I can name you 16 industries PDP police and credit facilitation help grow and build wealth

Name one single sector APC has improved

Awon economy build on subsidies like APC didn’t pay more subsidies than PDP

I can equally list 40 industries that PDP killed.

If you build 16 house but destroyed 40, have you made progress?

16 years of PDP didn't give us power.
16 years of PDP couldn't deliver Lagos Ibadan road, it couldn't deliver Abuja Lokoja road, it couldn't deliver Abuja Kaduna road.

Ajaokuta was grounded and it's components were looted.

NIPOST that employed millions Nigerians was killed
NITEL was killed,all government steel companies were sold as scrap.
Nigeria Airway was completely grounded.
AsU strike became our pride
A course of 4 years lasted 6-8 years because of strike.
Political killings became the story
Working refineries were paralysed
Dollar rose from mere 19 naira to 700 naira at the start of Buhari regime. Calculate the percentage increase before you compare.
Fuel scarcity became part of festival ritual.
Parent have to withdraw their ward from public to private school.
Then comes miracle centres that produces caricatures as graduates.
Baby factories sprang up and human parts sales becomes reigning business.

Just don't mention PDP as a party that develop the country if you don't want many people that were laid off from employment and the sacked pensioners to swear for you

iwaeda:
Is like comparing death to sleep. Even in the days of PDP, live was lively. Earning N100k then was like middle class. Awon builder ti po cement mo, mud.

Are you now admitting that your yesterday was better than your today? It seems na Satan answered your prayers instead of God

If my state is not number 1, I will delete my Nairaland account

Elusive001:
So Nigerians are enjoying in the present? Since the advent of the APC in 2015, what has the average Nigerian enjoyed? Is their situation better now than in 2014?

Meanwhile, I am still waiting for the proof that Peter Obi did nothing as the governor of Anambra State.

Here is the link to Obi dossier.

https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing/58#140324154

Obi was a failure and he will continue to be a failure

Elusive001:
So Nigerians are enjoying in the present? Since the advent of the APC in 2015, what has the average Nigerian enjoyed? Is their situation better now than in 2014?

Meanwhile, I am still waiting for the proof that Peter Obi did nothing as the governor of Anambra State.

Go and ask Owobokiri. I will share the link that summarized Obi failed tenure. The comments were direct from those who experience first hand failure of Obi governance

If anyone thinks Tinubu has not done his best, that person should present his father to lead Nigeria.

Those who wanted to use it for political campaign won't like it.

Does El Rufai and Malami prosecution have anything to do with reduced banditry?

Since the government have adopted a strategy of arresting the families of the abductors and their collaborators in case of Orire abduction, the bandits now see there is a new Sheriff in town who won't waste time to do to the bandit family what they are doing to innocent Nigerians