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PoliticsRe: FFK On Buhari/Osinbajo Boycotting ECOWAS Meeting With Benjamin Netanyahu by vantage001: 2:04pm On Jun 06, 2017
mmsen:
The early Jewish settlers of the 20th century were European Jews fleeing persecution. These were followed by Holocaust survivors, also from Europe.

The largest block of Jews since that period have come from Eastern Europe and Russia. Many of whom are the descendants of converts or people with only one Jewish grandparent.

Like it or not, these are Europeans, not people indigenous to Palestine.

The Palestinians are only defending the little that they have left against a violent military/police state. Everyone has the right to defend themselves. That is true for Palestinians and Biafrans.
They are Jews. They may have a varying degree of Jewness but they are Jews.
1/4 of a Jew is a jew. The palestinains who are arabs are not the historical owners of that terrain too.
Besides, where do you want the rest of Isreal to go? We are talking about millions of people here including women and children. And they have managed to build a stable, progressive nation in the midst of the arabian-mess that surround them on every side.
The Palestinians should accept a two-state solution or fucck-off.
PoliticsRe: FFK On Buhari/Osinbajo Boycotting ECOWAS Meeting With Benjamin Netanyahu by vantage001: 1:55pm On Jun 06, 2017
mmsen:
You don't know what my views are, you're making silly assumptions instead of listening to reason. Have you seen me chant 'One Nigeria'? I have been in favor of a division of northern and southern Nigeria (at the very least) since I was a small child.

Israel is the aggressor here, they invaded another man's home - they are trespassers not victims. You demean your own struggle by aligning with criminals, their issues are vastly different from that of Biafra.

I do not support the oppression of any Africans. You have never seen me support such.
The palestinans don't own that land. They are settlers too.
They have been offered a two-state solution which they rejected, and now resort to terrorism.
And Isreal has a moral right to defend its own citizens with every strength and tech they can muster.
Besides, where do you expect the millions of Isreali men, women and children to go?
PoliticsRe: FFK On Buhari/Osinbajo Boycotting ECOWAS Meeting With Benjamin Netanyahu by vantage001: 1:52pm On Jun 06, 2017
mmsen:
The Biafra situation is not comparable with Israel in any way.

The Biafrans are asking for the right of self-determination.

Palestinians are trying to stop genocide and land expropriation by European Jews.

No comparison.
You are getting me irritated. European jews? There is a 5000 years of recorded history to shows that arabs are not indigenous to that terrain. They are settlers too.
Besides, you seem to write off the biafran agitation which is a pretty disgusting thing to do.
Unlike the Palestinians, the biafrans have an actual historical claim to their own land. Unlike the Palestinians, the biafrans are not violent and so does not deserve a bloody retaliation from state forces. Biafrans don't throw missiles into schools and hospitals.
Unlike the Palestinians, the biafrans would gladly accept a two-state solution.
PoliticsRe: FFK On Buhari/Osinbajo Boycotting ECOWAS Meeting With Benjamin Netanyahu by vantage001: 1:46pm On Jun 06, 2017
MetaPhysical:
Why do we have to get agricultural skills or Tech or Education from Israel?

African Americans share origin and genes with us. Culturally, politically and economically, if we were looking for partners in these three area they are a best bet than Israel. Tell me, the Falashas that Israel evacuated from Ethiopia to Israel, how are they doing? Their conditions and status in Israel should be an eye opener of how Israel see blackskins. They dont care if you are Jew like them, Christian, Muslim, Sango worshipper....they put you in place on account of your skin color....the reason Obama never warmed up to Netanyahu. You all better wake up!
Because Isreal is an agricultural and technological giant and you are not.
There are racists even in america and western Europe. It dosen't mean Nigerians cannot do business with the government and develop the country.
PoliticsRe: FFK On Buhari/Osinbajo Boycotting ECOWAS Meeting With Benjamin Netanyahu by vantage001: 1:42pm On Jun 06, 2017
mmsen:
People like me?

Have you seen me celebrate when Biafrans have been killed?

Why do you people forever hide behind stupid assumptions?

Why do you link Biafra with Israel? Where is the connection? Israel is a criminal enterprise, Biafra is not. There is no comparison, don't demean your struggle by associating with bigoted European Jews engaged in a land grabbing exercise.
Maybe not you, but generally, Judeo-hating, one Nigerian chanters with your views are some of the most despicable hypocrites on the planet.
They cry when Isreal defends its own innocents against a credible and violent threat, and yet support the deliberate oppression of harmless innocents in Nigeria just because they want to secceed.
PoliticsRe: FFK On Buhari/Osinbajo Boycotting ECOWAS Meeting With Benjamin Netanyahu by vantage001: 1:39pm On Jun 06, 2017
mmsen:
I don't care for Saudi Arabia but I'm not about to start cheer leading for Israel, especially not when they are doing to others what they claim was so wrong for them in the past.

They are killing Palestinians whose only crime is to defend the small area that they have been allowed to keep hold of.

It's not Judeo-phobia, nor am I in any way inclined to Islam but wrong is wrong, genocide is genocide and that is what Israel is culpable of. They themselves have recently admitted that they lied about the Palestinian threat to appropriate more Palestinian land.

The fact that you are arguing in their favor is a sign of how dangerous religious mythology can be. These are European Jews expropriating Arab land. Let them return to Europe and fight for land there.
Tell Palestinians to stop supporting the destruction of isreal and the launching of missiles into the isreali homelands to kill innocents. It makes it difficult for rational people like me to sympathize with them when Isreal inevitably hits back.
There is already a two-state solution on the ground, let them take it. Biafrans would gladly take that if offered.
PoliticsRe: FFK On Buhari/Osinbajo Boycotting ECOWAS Meeting With Benjamin Netanyahu by vantage001: 1:36pm On Jun 06, 2017
mmsen:
Often.

When Abacha murdered Saro-Wiwa I called him to be wrong.

When Obasanjo was playing from the same script I said likewise.

When Buhari has turned a blind eye I have said the same.

But Israel is slaughtering people on their own land and then allowing Jews to settle on land that has been stolen from people who were there before.

Israel makes life exceedingly difficult for Palestinians.

It isn't 'hypocrisy', what Israel does is consistently criminal.
There are two sides to every story.
The palestinains blatantly launch missiles to schools and hospitals.
Biafrans have not done anything violent and yet people like you jubilate when Nigerian military waste innocent biafran lives.
PoliticsRe: FFK On Buhari/Osinbajo Boycotting ECOWAS Meeting With Benjamin Netanyahu by vantage001: 1:32pm On Jun 06, 2017
Raymonbell:
Some people comment on every thread like they know everything.
Nigeria's stand on Israel's occupation of Palestinian Land remain sacrosanct and Osinbajo as the acting president play with fire if he make any commitment or statement that negate the country's foreign policy. Staying away is better than jeopardizing what Buhari spent his first six month in office repairing.

Foreign policy transcend the stupiiiiid ethnic and religious politics we play in Nigeria. Moreover, who told Mr. FFK that Christian in Nigeria support Israel.

FFK must be high with Moringa, I swear.
No, Nigeria has never had a stable palestinan policy. Under GEJ, we either voted against palestinian statehood or abstained depending on what is on offer from the US or even isreal.
The isrealis have been responsible for training of the Nigerian DSS and the supply of their IsrealiTAVOR riffles.
The new policy of boycotting isreal is a new policy of the buhari administration, not Nigeria's long-standing policy especially in the light of secessionists at home.
PoliticsRe: FFK On Buhari/Osinbajo Boycotting ECOWAS Meeting With Benjamin Netanyahu by vantage001: 1:28pm On Jun 06, 2017
mmsen:
You cannot assume that everyone who is not a Muslim is a Christian. It's an annoying assumption that contradicts your first statement about Nigeria being secular.

And you cannot assume that just because someone is a Christian that they love Israel. Israel has been guilty of appalling atrocities and should be called out.
Isreal is the greatest nation in the middle-east. FAR FAR greater than saudi-arabia.
There is no reason why a nation that likes itself will not want to ally with Isreal and get the best available- from agriculture, to tech to education.
The only reason is religion. And the truth of it all is that a significant portion of Nigerians are not all loyal to the islamo-enabled judeo-phobia..
So why is Buhari and his spineless VP boycotting and speaking for the rest of us?
PoliticsRe: FFK On Buhari/Osinbajo Boycotting ECOWAS Meeting With Benjamin Netanyahu by vantage001: 12:31pm On Jun 06, 2017
Kathmandu:
osibanjo and eye service
A pastor for that matter.
No spine, no will, no guts.
And some people from his terrain still believe this guy with zero courage will revolutionize this country.
FamilyRe: Married Men, Please What Exactly Are You Enjoying In Your Marriage? by vantage001: 8:03am On Jun 06, 2017
From this thread, it seems marriages in Nigeria is all Kumbaya.
PoliticsRe: Lai Mohammed Tours Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing Company In Nnewi (Photos) by vantage001: 7:39pm On Jun 05, 2017
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PoliticsRe: Is Israel Finally Coming To Rescue Ipod, The Lost Tribe Of Israel ( Read This) by vantage001: 6:17pm On Jun 05, 2017
blueseacats:
Bro. Nigeria is not even among the first 10. I have been to Togo, Cameroon, SA TAnzania and Namibia.

I live in the United States where diversity rains supreme. Ethnicity is not our problem. Our orientation is just messed up.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_ethnic_and_cultural_diversity_level


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/18/the-most-and-least-culturally-diverse-countries-in-the-world/
lol. The united states is your only credible example?. I am not asking you to give me links.
The US as diverse as it is is vastly different from Nigeria. It has a progressive white majority that was responsible for the creation of the country and providing social stability and direction. It has an overwhelming majority religion which is Christianity.
The US is like a loose confederacy with each states more or less like a mini-nation, each pursuing its own destiny and in-charge of its own resources and potentials.
Don't compare Nigeria to the US again or i will never take you serious.
PoliticsRe: Non-igbo Speaking Biafrans Who Were Top Officials During The Civil War by vantage001: 6:12pm On Jun 05, 2017
mekuzi09:
This is to silent the lies that have been flying around that Biafra subjugated the ND tribes during the war. It was all inclusive governemt, with each province having their system and heads. Better than what we have in Nigeria today. Nigeria is built on injustice, but ND tribes are not even attacking their main aggressors, its Igbos all of them get mouth for. IPOB should review their stand asp. Igbo only Biafra, with an open door policy to any willing group, that may want to join.
Bros, they know this but don't care neither do i .
Biafra will no work with too many different ethnicities. An igbo-only nation is enough for me.
PoliticsRe: Is Israel Finally Coming To Rescue Ipod, The Lost Tribe Of Israel ( Read This) by vantage001: 5:56pm On Jun 05, 2017
blueseacats:
The fundamental problem you mentioned is a general disease among Nigerians, Nigeria is not the only multicultural society in the world, I have been to 7 different countries and found that multiculturalism is a plus not a minus, but the fact that an average Nigerian thinks a certain way makes it certain that any breakaway state will experience the same problems.
List the 7 countries you have been to and i will draw the vast differences between them and Nigeria that can never change.
Multiculturalism can be a curse.
Infact, most of the countries excelling are not multi-cultural nations.
SportsRe: Cheick Tiote Collapses & Dies During Training In China by vantage001: 5:54pm On Jun 05, 2017
na wa o.
All the chinese mega bucks he has earned will be spent by someone else.
This world is strange.
RIP .
PoliticsRe: Is Israel Finally Coming To Rescue Ipod, The Lost Tribe Of Israel ( Read This) by vantage001: 5:45pm On Jun 05, 2017
blueseacats:
Neither do I support the current status quo. But Biafra is not the answer. E[b]radicating corruption and reinstating equality is[/b]. For as long as we youths have refused to use our youthfulness to agitate for change. Sorry we will all continue to live with the status quo.
Not going to happen, sorry.
How do you intend to eradicate corruption and restate equality in a country with such deep fundamental issues.? For example, the north has sworn never to allow fiscal federalism, so how do you intend to beat that?
You are wasting your time. Besides, there is no empirical evidence to prove biafra is not the answer. Biafra has never existed as a full-fledged nation yet to draw that inference.
One thing that is certain though is that Nigeria is hopeless. I can't blame anybody for trying something else. It is a rational decision.
PoliticsRe: Is Israel Finally Coming To Rescue Ipod, The Lost Tribe Of Israel ( Read This) by vantage001: 5:27pm On Jun 05, 2017
blueseacats:
They are the jobless lot, who thinks a biafran stat can save them from misery.
I think you mis-understand me.
Supporting the current status quo is a bigger foolishness.
PoliticsRe: Is Israel Finally Coming To Rescue Ipod, The Lost Tribe Of Israel ( Read This) by vantage001: 2:05pm On Jun 05, 2017
who are these people embarrassing the igbo race on nairaland?
CelebritiesRe: Phyno Vs Zoro | Who Is To Be The King Of Igbo Rap In This 2017 ? by vantage001: 1:55pm On Jun 05, 2017
Papzey:
Zoro not on Phyno's level biko, I know zoro trying, but not Phyno lai lai, the Afonja in me reject it! Phyno is now one of our own as he has on countless time dine with the talented afonja ras boy, Olamide. Zoro can iririnshi!

See Ariana Grande perform Somewhere over the rainbow for victims of manchester attack


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZN8RZeh3Uw
You are high on expired ewedu.
PoliticsRe: FG To Establish Special Schools For Married Women by vantage001: 1:50pm On Jun 05, 2017
This is the kind of almjairi social programs that the rest of the country have to live by.
Strange cultures from the north are now our national way of life.
All because a british man decided to join us together with people my fore-fathers had no knowledge of.
CelebritiesRe: Phyno Vs Zoro | Who Is To Be The King Of Igbo Rap In This 2017 ? by vantage001: 1:39pm On Jun 05, 2017
Zoro is fast as fucck.
Phyno already has the lime-light but zoro is more talented.
PoliticsRe: People Gat No Fear… A Young Man Cursed EFCC On Twitter by vantage001: 9:28am On Jun 05, 2017
And why should you fear EFCC when you have not committed any crime?
The last i checked, swearing is not a crime. Backward shitt-hole of a country.
PoliticsRe: Restructuring: Igbo Reps Seek National Referendum by vantage001: 9:29pm On Jun 04, 2017
Iblad0994:
The enemy of Ndigbo is Ndigbo itself. I remember a time in this country when all d 6 ministers in Jonathan's kitchen cabinet were all Igbo's. Ayim Pius Ayim was SGF, Ngozi Okonjo Iwealla was in charge finance, Emeka Wogu was in Labour and productivity, Berth Nnaji was in Power and Energy, Dieziani Madueke was d powerful minister for oil. The 6 of them outside d Federal Executive Council would meet and decide what and what not to be discussed at d larger FEC. Whatever they decided would eventually be d position of government. In 6 years, this was d situation. Okiro and Onovo had d police under their control. Ihejerika and later Minimah controlled d Army. These powerful Igbo's could do and undo. Nigeria was in their pockets. Rather than care about d poor Igbo chaps scattered all over d country, they were busy diverting billions of naira into their accounts at home and abroad. D 2nd Niger Bridge, they didn't do. They shared d money. The Lagos/Calabar rail lines passing through 9 States, 3 of them in d SE, they were not bothered. They refused to pay d Chinese d Counter part fund. They shared d money. Enugu/Onitsha, Aba/PH and other roads of economic importance to their fellow Igbo's, they abandoned. Who is to blame? Who is marginalising d Igbos?
STFU.
Chart your own afonja future.
Sensible people are talking about real issues affecting generations and have been in contention since the 60s ,this illiterate yoruba man/child is yapping about Jonathan.
I couldn't give a hoot about Jonathan.
PoliticsRe: Restructuring: Igbo Reps Seek National Referendum by vantage001: 9:26pm On Jun 04, 2017
Those guys better grab it with both hands if ever possible.
Nigeria is a shitt-hole with no possible hope in sight. Get the hell out the first chance you get and learn from the old mistakes.
PoliticsRe: Southern Nigeria Wise Up by vantage001: 7:30pm On Jun 04, 2017
MayorofLagos:
Very true declaration!

I think the combination of interviews given by Ango Abdullahi and Tanko Yakassai is backfiring on North and will end up engender a new political cohesion in the South.

The competition between the Southerners must continue cause I think it sharpens our skills and drive for self improvement and preservation but I believe the vitriol and caustic darts needs to be sheathed. We can argue points and counter claims but respectfully and morebcivil.

Also, we need to collectively start attacking and antagonising the North in areas of security, productivity, economy, education and diversity. We need to put pressure on them and demand why with such huge population and federal allocation their society remain poor and backward. They hate alcohol and cannot stand the sight of their women dressed in public in revealing clothings. These should be our weapons to attack their culture. We want to reengineer their society and want their women to be released from the shackles of male chauvinism that is pervasive in their culture. A woman has right to dress anyway she wants and associate with anybody that pleases her. Hausamen cannot be allowed to dictate that. We Southerners must begin to champion the rights of Northern women to show cleavage or show thighs if thats what she desires without any persecution or attack. We must also encourage their youths that their contract to life is between the individual and his/her God. They must separate worship from living. There is nothing wrong with partying or clubbing, once in a while its good to throw away worries and enjoy life...with a bottle of Johnny Walker! The boys can do it, the girls can do it too.
Keep deceiving yourself.
Have you stopped calling the SE hateful people?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by vantage001: 6:56pm On Jun 04, 2017
Hazard has started wooing real madrid. angry
Smh.
Why in the world would someone risk stability and appreciation for the uncertainty and circus of real madrid?
PoliticsRe: "The Goals They Want To Achieve With New Biafra" - Tanko Yaksai by vantage001: 2:59pm On Jun 04, 2017
schoolboij:
you are talking railway and I am looking as the bigger picture. railway cannot be constructed all over the country at once.

secondly, Ameachi, the minister of transportation who designed the project is an Igbo man according to ipob.

now refute my earlier claim or stfu.
Yes, a 1.2 billion dollar railway Cris-crossing most parts of the entire country does not need to get to the SE now? So when?
Which part of the country is in more need of easy transportation network than the SE?
Please don't quote me again.
PoliticsRe: "The Goals They Want To Achieve With New Biafra" - Tanko Yaksai by vantage001: 2:32pm On Jun 04, 2017
schoolboij:
and Igbo senators rejected a bill to make Lagos have a special status while Yoruba senators agreed to your region's special intervention.
Agreed?
Yoruba senators agreed so much that they actively wrote off the SE inclusion into the national rail way project as a mere disturbance.
PoliticsRe: "The Goals They Want To Achieve With New Biafra" - Tanko Yaksai by vantage001: 2:30pm On Jun 04, 2017
Mbediogu:
Are those the dishes on the table right now? Thank you for the insults. Get well soon.
Piss-off.
After everything they have done , you want the igbo race to form an alliance with them.
Speak for yourself and don't portray the igbo race as naive people.
PoliticsRe: "The Goals They Want To Achieve With New Biafra" - Tanko Yaksai by vantage001: 1:55pm On Jun 04, 2017
Mbediogu:
Sorry bros. You are a clone of Tanko Yakassai. Read the hand writing on the wall and come up to the 21st century.
When people say the igbo man is naive, you are proof of it.
Southern friendship when a south-western tinubu has cornered the political spoils of war for his people.
A SW senator recently told the SE not to worry about any $1.2b railway because government is a continuum and they should wait for the future..
You are not wise.
PoliticsRe: "The Goals They Want To Achieve With New Biafra" - Tanko Yaksai by vantage001: 1:40pm On Jun 04, 2017
Mbediogu:
Don't mind the old criminal. The southern friendship stretches across the Niger. Politically from history, the igbos are proud of people like Adeniran Ogunsanya, Adegoke Adelabu, Fajuyi etc. The war and Hausa manipulation was what tried to divide us. Let's watch.
Which southern friendship?
If the SW had their way, they would perpetuate themselves in power by allying with the north forever.

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