omasanbobo:

Na the new trend be that, any phone/laptop below 300k is almost unusable. Forget all the value for money terms companies/tech reviewers use to deceive us, na wash.

Sigh. Old phones just come look better than new phones. Imagine Nokia 9 Pureview being sold for over $1000 on eBay, phone wey no longer dey relevant in 2023 (Andriod 10).

omasanbobo:

Those games had strong personalities unlike the cash grabbing thrash on the Playstore/Appstore.

Like fr tho, ancient PS1 game (Final Fantasy Tactics) claps most of the latest RPG turn based games

dvkot:

And as for the 8k video recording? Let me ask this simple question: “how many people you know wey dey use phones that record at 4k/30FPS”?

dvkot:

The one that if you want reverse charging, go for the latest Doogee phones with over 10k mAh battery and rugged build? It's a fact, now? Abi, you wan use 5k mAh Poco f5 charge your 5k mAh Spark 10 Pro?

omasanbobo:

Those games you de wait on go disappoint you with weak storytelling and funky gameplay. I've always been a console/pc gamer. I don't buy phones based on their gaming capabilities so even if i get myself an s23 ultra or 14 pro max na basic phone tasks i go still use am do.

I prey make dem no disappoint o otherwise all these yeye game developers go hear am

dvkot:
you do know you are the first to bring up this logic

First to bring which one?

omasanbobo:
If you fit land your hand on a solid used gaming laptop it's way better than the ps4 and those so called gaming phones.

Even regular laptops best many of these flagship phones on the market, na money just be the problem. You go see latest laptop being sold for like 700k+ now

omasanbobo:

Lol, na candy crush and subway surfers dem wan de play with those high specs. android/apple mobile games na joke

You dey consider Candy Crush and Subway Surf game? Wey men dey wait for Honour Of Kings: World and Call Of Duty Warfare? I wonder who would spend almost a million on Canday Crash
I just dey anticipate more heavy duty games and emulation for the flagship market, until then mah dey rock my upper midrange and midrange devices ahbeg.
If small money dey, na to get PC and console — no time for Fragship

omasanbobo:

Lol i go sell the s23 ultra use the money buy ps4 then use the change buy new midrange phone.

Lol, sharp guy
I just dey see price of gaming laptops and phones, I just dey laugh. Redmagic even released a gaming phone with over 24GB of RAM, and the andriod game development industry never fit take full advantage of am

omasanbobo:
I used to enjoy mobile games during the java/symbian os era, since those os cast i no send mobile games again, there's a video on YouTube by mrwhosetheboss on why mobile gaming failed.

The time wey I no need to pay 50k to unlock gun for inside game Ads and Royalties everywhere, but man must earn sha

Na who geh money dey buy PS4 make we just forget all these online ramblings I just dey wait for the future where man go fit emulate PS3 and PS4 for free like 1 and 2

omasanbobo:
Na wah so person de actually compare mobile phone with console , all those useless android/apple games filled with ads and ridiculous in game purchases couple with their dead story and repetitive gameplay lol.

Truth to be told, andriod gaming still never strong Many PS1 and 2 games clap modern andriod games. But the question wey I'll ask the guy who will choose PS4 over S23 Ultra — can your PS4 snap pictures at 100x zoom

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If no be say I no get money, I for buy Xiaomi 13U for Camera, Sammy S23U for performance and Apple 14 Pro Max to chase the fun girl for my area laslas 3 million go enter toilet

dvkot:
i know right...
At the end of this debate affordability is what makes people buy a phone and not preference

dvkot:

Seriously bro.. You really going to compare a game console or a gaming pc to a phone now? You really want us to go there?

The joke clearly flew over your head...

dvkot:
both phones are pathetic

Well I can't even argue that with you

dvkot:
you cant even run genshin impact for 1hr at full graphic on redmi 12 turbo

Well, you can — Although the phone would begin to boil. Just imagine what it'll do to Tecno Spark 10 my brother, heh.

dvkot:
if i want to play a game on ultra graphic i will buy ps4...

Can you snap pictures with your PS4? Can your PS4 run WhatsApp at the lowest graphics? (only a few would get this sarcastic question)
There's a reason why some gamers go for mobiles instead of PlayStation Consoles. Well, apart from the fact they're very expensive

dvkot:
now that you say it like this it's makes sense and all down to preference.. cos i will rather go for a used flagship than any gimmick flagship killer or midranger, cos at the end there's nothing like flagship killer if the so called killer don't offer exactly what the flagship offer... So what's it killing?
Its like telling someone 18karat gold is better than 24karat because it's cheaper and it looks the same.

Well, this argument is taking us nowhere — so let me just treat your opinion as a matter of your own personal preference and nothing more.

dvkot:
any app or game the redmi 12 will run spark 10pro will run it how's that for chipset

Okay, let's run Mobile Legends at Ultra Graphics and see which phone would boil like a potato after a few matches? Or can your Spark 10 Pro run Genshin Impact at the highest graphics/60 FPS without throttling after a few minutes?

dvkot:
if you undercut corner it's no longer a flagship killer, cos if so then spark10 is a flagship killer too

Spark 10 Pro with it's midrange chipset, camera and build — Flagship Killer? What aspects of it can be considered Flagship?

dvkot:
if you undercut corner it's no longer a flagship killer, cos if so then spark10 is a flagship killer too

So the Xiaomi 13 Ultra without 8k selfie video recording is a mid-range? Your logic is flawed.

dvkot:
f5 pro claps s21 ultra?
I will rather buy a foreign used s22 ultra than to go buy a new f5pro

Here is when it all boils down on preference — I will only go for the S22 Ultra if it's in the same price range as the Poco F5, once the gap is more than 50k... S22 no go see my breaklight stall.
And due to my preference (and empty pockets), I'd choose the Poco F5 over the Poco F5 Pro. Although I'd rather own a flagship, the 'killers' which are less expensive (what I can afford) and better than other midrangers would be what I should go for.

Sadonyx:
100k I need to get it for someone doing her birthday today

You just minus about 80k from the asking price, you know fear God...

dvkot:
you see the problem you can't compromise on specs and call yourself a flagship killer, i can use the same point you make and debate that tecno spark 10pro is better than redmi 12 turbo

Besides the general point of a flagship killer is for it to be a less expensive flagship, right? So to do that, the manufacturing company must cut some corners so they wouldn't incur losses and cut down on their flagship sales at the same time.
It's only when the gap between Flagship Killers and Flagship is too wide, then one can argue if the term is a baseless gimmick.

dvkot:
you see the problem you can't compromise on specs and call yourself a flagship killer, i can use the same point you make and debate that tecno spark 10pro is better than redmi 12 turbo

Spark 10 Pro better than Redmi 12 Turbo? Okay. I'll like to be enlightened: Let's start with the chipset.

dvkot:

I don't really think this is a debate honestly cos from galaxy note 20 ultra- s22 ultra will murder that f5 pro.
Im a huge fan of xiaomi but a lot of people hyping redmi series like its a flagship killer... that's a HUGE NO, so long its a redmi it will never be a flagship killer

Poco F5 on its own murders every member of the S series up to the Galaxy S21 Plus which retails at over 400k for the 8/128GB version (brand new)
Poco F5 Pro? Don't even get me started. The only downside for me is the price — it claps both of the phones you mentioned, and is cheaper

dvkot:
from any brand of only xiaomi?

Flagship of over three years old,
Must be around 380 — 430k,
Must be better than the F5 Pro — Standard is (Performance),
Any brand, as far as the device will be considered relevant in 2024:

dvkot:
and you think its a flagship killer with snapdragon 7, no reverse charging, no under display fingerprint, no 8k recording, oled screen.
Like i said flagship killer ended with oneplus 8 or 9.
And even xiaomi flagship killer are their T series and not redmi, redmi is xiaomi lowest phones models

FYI:
Poco has SD 7+ Gen 2 Chipset, which is an underclocked version of last year's Flagship 8 Gen 1 chipset
It has an AMOLED display, not OLED as you mentioned (OLED is for the cheaper Chinese variant Redmi 12 Turbo). Reverse charging? Does iPhone 14 Pro Max have that feature? If you want power bank, go for the latest Doogee.
If UD display fingerprint and chipset is your problem, go for the Poco F5 Pro and pay more , $100 more should be nothing for those features.
As for 8k video recording? Am I a photographer or do I have events that I want to cover with such an overated gimmick? Even most flagships don't have this feature, talk less of the Poco F5

dvkot:
flagship killer is a marketing gimmick and the only true flagship killers was oneplus up untill oneplus 9... and for the last 3years there's no flagship killer anymore cos of the effect of covid.
So saying you are going for a flagship killer at this time is just pointless, if you have the money for a flagship go for it but to me i will always prefer a 3years old flagship to a new midrange.
It's like comparing a used benz to a brand new toyota there's a huge difference

Tell me any old flagship that'll clap the Poco F5 Pro in the price range (380 - 430k), because I think your claims of “flagship killers” being nothing more than a marketing gimmick, wrong.

dvkot:
flagship killer is a marketing gimmick and the only true flagship killers was oneplus up untill oneplus 9... and for the last 3years there's no flagship killer anymore cos of the effect of covid.
So saying you are going for a flagship killer at this time is just pointless, if you have the money for a flagship go for it but to me i will always prefer a 3years old flagship to a new midrange.
It's like comparing a used benz to a brand new toyota there's a huge difference

So the Redmi 12 Turbo (Poco F5) is not Flagship Killer? and I should add 700k and go for S23 Ultra or Xiaomi 13 Ultra? I don't care much if you think it to be marketing gimmick or not, but seriously?