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Janosky:
Where is your honesty?
See your claim:
"Christ is one with God". you mean Christ is God.

Now apply the same spiritual logic of your spiritual mind to your claim
Wizzyvine is one with Christ. Meaning Wizzyvine is Christ/God.

Bros, you can't shift this your goalpost.

No wonder, you guys use logic to interpret the things of the spirit. That's why you are filled with heresy. I am one with Christ but I am not Christ because I didn't pre-exist as Christ before becoming a man. However, my oneness with Christ gives me authority over Satan to put him where he belongs. Christ's being one with the Father is in the sense that it was the Father Himself who manifested Himself as the Son:

1 Timothy 3:16

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Which goalpost have I shifted? I have replied to all of your cronies who were shifting from post to post. You guys can only deceive someone who is not well rooted in the truth. If you shift your posts a thousand times, I'll shoot the ball a thousand times in a thousand directions.

Since morning, I've been busy replying you all and showing from the scriptures that you are in error. Reject the truth at your peril.

Janosky:
According to Wizzyvine, his God @ Romans 9:5 anointed himself above his companion ,peers @ Hebrews1:9, whereas Almighty God has no equal nor peers.



Trinity Delusion shuts down their God given thought processes

You're really deluded and very blind. You can't come to the basic truth of scripture. You can't see that Jesus was God in the Spirit and man in the flesh.

1 Timothy 3:16

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Why are you so blind?

Janosky:
Another hard sell

Your Everlasting Father says himself is subject in heaven to his Father & God
John 20:17. Rev3: 5,12

Deal with it.

That's where you err. You can't see that Jesus is God in Spirit and man in flesh. You can't come to the basic truth of scripture.

1Timothy 3:16

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, [/b]justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Hallelujah!!!

Janosky:
Bros, you have seen the evidence that Bible translators who are Trinitarians said you are being Dubious to Falsely claim Romans 9:5 for Trinity.

Bros, You saw the evidence that Revised Standard Version' and Moffat Bible translations, both Trinitarian Scholars & others are refuting your claim.

Also, whether you like am or not, God no make mistake. Therefore, Paul an inspired man moved by Yahweh's holy spirit can not make mistake to contradict himself or the holy scriptures.

Your Romans 9:5, must agree with Romans 8:3,32, 2 Corinthians 11:31, Ephesians 1:3. 4:6,
Ephesians 3:14-15, 1 Corinthians 11:1,3.

Bros, do you want more?
Go check out all Paul's writing in your Bible , Contrary to your claim @ Romans 9:5, Paul will NEVER contradict himself or the holy scriptures

Stop deceiving yourself making spurious claim.

Paul and Appolos are one, Paul said so.
see am now

1 Corinthians 3:6-8
King James Version
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

I saw no evidence. There are so many scriptures pointing to Christ's Godship, not Romans 9;4-5 alone.

Philippians 2:5-6:

You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.

John 20:27
Then he said to Thomas,
“Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 20:28

Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.


Refute all the above scriptures. Tell the comma and fullstop stories again, and get your Moffat screenshots. There are still more coming. I'll be back.

Why have you allowed the devil to fill your heart with falsehood? If we worship an angel, then, we are idol worshippers. The only Person worthy of our worship is God.

haddeylium:
You still didn't answer the question
It's still there

I'll answer yours
Trinitarians have stopped the usage of that verse in support of their belief after they learnt the truth behind it. So, they left you. Sad


John 17:
21that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us: that the world may believe that thou didst send me.
22And I have given to them the glory that you have given to me, that they may be one as we are one:

That they may be one (just as) we are one
'That they may also be in us'

Do Jesus’ disciples become part of the Trinity?

Of course they are one in essence of being United in purpose just as Jehovah and Jesus are are in agreement as being one(1cor 1:10)

Do you now see how grossly the dogma of the trinity misinterpret the word of God?
Is the truth setting you free now?

Hahahaha, laughable.

We believers are one with Christ. We are the body of Christ, and Christ is the Head of the body.

I Cor. 12:27
Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.

Colossians 1:18

"And he is the head of the body, the church..."

These are spiritual things far removed from the understanding of canal men who use logic to find spiritual truth.

Maximus69:
I thought you're not bothered by whatever anyone believe so far they claim they're for Jesus?

So you lied!

Jesus is Archangel Michael
Or
Jesus is God

Supposed not to be a cause for alarm since it's the name Jesus either way nah!

We don't worship a name, we worship a person.

Today I realized that not all Christians are actually Christians. True Christians worship Jesus, fake Christians worship Michael.

DappaD:
When Jesus said “his disciples will be ONE just as he[Jesus] and his Father, Jehovah are ONE”, what do you think He meant?
John 17:21-23—verse 22 especially
“I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be ONE just as we are ONE.”
Please can you explain what Jesus meant here?
Were the disciples to form one mishmash of personalities and turn to an unnamed trinity god too?

Or did Jesus say his disciples will be in agreement and united in thought just as he and his Father are?—1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3, Philippians 2:2



Indeed when you know the truth about John 10:30, you'll be set free from all useless religious doctrines.

Why did you cut off the part where I inferred that Jesus in John 14 told Philip that anyone who has seen me has seen the Father? If the oneness that Jesus inferred was the same as the one He was talking about when He prayed that His disciples may be one, why then did the Jews take up stones in an attempt to kill Him?

The scriptures explained that Jesus told those Jews that He and His Father are one, then they took up stones to stone Him because according to them "He being man was claiming equality with God." This claim Jesus never refuted.

I see that you guys love to deliberately twist the scriptures in a bid to promote your satanic doctrines.

Janosky:
STOP deceiving yourselves.

The Manuscripts of Greek Scriptures doesn't have comma or full stop.
Bible translators have to decide where to place comma or full stop in the English translation.
This in effect, would determine the meaning of the verse.

After writing Romans 8:3,32 ,1 Corinthians 3:23, 11:3 , Ephesians 4:6 etc ,Paul can not contradict himself & the holy scriptures by putting up that FRAUD you are trying so hard to sell..

Also, Many Trinitarian Bible translators , For instance Revised Standard Version'& Moffat Bible translations have arrived at the conclusion that Romans 9:5 doesn't support Trinity in any way.

RSV: “to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. God who is over all be blessed forever. Amen.”
Moffatt: “the patriarchs are theirs, and theirs too (so far as natural descent goes) is the Christ. (Blessed for evermore be the God who is over all! Amen.)”

Pls read the screenshot evidence

Twist the scriptures as you wish. The same Greek and Hebrew manuscripts are they that told you that Jesus Christ is Michael.

The Gospel of John chapter 1 corroborates Romans 9:4-5, in that it says "The Word was God." Isaiah 9:6 says the Virgin born Son is the Everlasting Father, the Mighty God.

What are my trying hard to sell? The truth of those scriptures isn't hidden. They were written in plain language which you and your cronies are trying so hard to twist.

Janosky:
Jesus Christ meant what Paul meant
@ 1 Corinthians 3:6,8, "Paul and Appolos are one"
The same thing Jesus Christ meant @ John 17:22-23.

Remember 1Corinthians11:1, Paul is imitating Jesus Christ

Why cut off the quoted scriptures?

Liar!! Paul never said he and Appolos are one. Please quote that scripture here directly. Who do you want to deceive?

Paul's discourse about Appolos is found in 1Cor. 1 and 3. Point the verse that says Paul and Appolos are one.

I quoted scriptures that directly stated that Jesus Christ is God ( Romans 9:4-5), you cut off those scriptures and substituted them for lies. This shows that you are not looking for the truth, you are only looking for someone to deceive.

Maximus69:
@ bolded, We are proud of our Master, Lord and King Jesus Christ (glorified Michael)

Thanks for sharing your time with us, we are OK with our faith, God bless you!

Oh my God! Jehovah Witnesses really worship Michael? Aaah!!! Wicked devil shall be judged for all the mischiefs, deceits and falsehood he has spread among men.

Maximus69:
Jehovah's Witnesses are no part of unorganized religionsists who don't have any standard nor principle {Matthew 7:23} so we are pleased to be separated from all of you! John 17:14 compare to Revelations 18:4

Jesus prayed in John 17:21, "That they may be one as we are one." If a group separates itself, causing schism in the body, then, that group is not a member of the body of Christ. We probably don't believe in the same Jesus. And of course, I hear that your own Jesus is Michael the archangel. My own Jesus is the incarnate Word that was with the Father, who became flesh, was crucified and resurrected the third day. The Jesus who'll return to put an end to darkness and set up everlasting righteousness.

Maximus69:
We are 100% satisfied with the type of Christianity we have as Jehovah's Witnesses!

Chai! The truth does not move you because you are bound by religion. To me, only the truth matters, not denominationalism. All denominations shall perish but the Truth abides forever.

I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father but by me

Only the truth makes free, not a type of Christianity or a type of church.

You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.

Maximus69:
It's a free world but don't come saying you're neutral when you don't agree with the simple thing found in God's word

Jesus is God's only begotten Son! John 3:16

That's exactly what Peter said when Jesus ask who do say i am? {Matthew 16:13-16} Jesus blessed Peter for that response {Matthew 16:17-20}

So Jehovah's Witnesses globally will keep that one as our own share! John 3:17-18

Hahaha, if everyone is keeping just one verse of scripture, what type of Christianity will that be?

The Bible says, no scripture is of private interpretation, 1Peter 1:20. We know that scriptures interpret scripture.

Jesus is indeed the Son of God. But He also said "I and my Father are one." He told Philip in John 14, "Whosoever has seen me has seen Father." One scripture explains this further: Romans 9:4-5.

King James

Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.



New Living Translation

"Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen"

Christian Standard Bible

"The ancestors are theirs, and from them, by physical descent, came the Christ, who is God over all, praised forever. Amen."

New International Version

"Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen."


You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free

haddeylium:
For me to understand you...
Give answers to these

(Heb1;9)You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you[b] above your companions[/b] by anointing you with the oil of joy."


Who is Jesus' God?
Who are his companion that God annoited him above?
Why the need to be anointed?
Give ur answers and we move

I have answered these questions many times today. Read my mentions but let me drop a scripture here for you:


Romans 9:4-5

King James

Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.


New Living Translation

Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen"

Christian Standard Bible

The ancestors are theirs, and from them, by physical descent, came the Christ, who is God over all, praised forever. Amen.

New International Version

"Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen."

Now answer your questions for yourself.

When Jesus said "I and my Father are one", what did you think He meant?

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free

Maximus69:
Good so whether someone say "Jesus is Archangel Michael" or "Jesus is God"
It's like you don't feel any difference shey?

That means you have no business being here!

Did you hear me say we can rub minds together to learn scriptures from other's perspective? Okay, you thrive on divisionalism and doctrinal contentions. Your own iron does not sharpen other irons but seek to hurt them.

If I have no business being here to share the Word of God with fellow Christians, be the first to kick me out.

Maximus69:
I thought what he's been asking is a verse where it is WRITTEN

"JESUS IS GOD" that's all, no stories!

Did you read the verses I presented him. Go down, read for yourself.

Maximus69:
If what you believe doesn't separate you from the body of Christ, then why worry about what JWs believe o?

Worrying? You misconstrue.We can be devided in doctrines but united in Christ. Brethren are meant to teach one another and rub minds together to see scriptures from another perspective. Rubbing minds together, disputing doctrines does not translate to worrying.

DappaD:
If Jesus is indeed higher than the archangel Michael, then why would he come in the voice of a lesser angel? E no get im own voice normally?
There's only one way to reconcile all of these.

You asked for a scripture proof of Jesus' Godship and I provided it. Settle yourself down on the truth you have just discovered, and stop meddling with issues much higher than you.

DappaD:
It has come to my notice that solite3 believes Jesus is God and he agrees he's a trinitarian.
But then again, WizzyVine also believes Jesus is God and he denies being a trinitarian.
So how do we resolve this issue on ground now?

You're merely being religious. What I'm denying is sectarianism. I wouldn't want what I believe to separate me from the rest of the body of Christ. What that statement means is that, we are one body, no matter what we believe.

DappaD:
You're still not getting it
If I give you 1Thessalonians 4:16 and explain that in the future, Jesus will come with an archangel's voice—confirming that he's the archangel Michael, you WILL not agree with me so why should I agree with your own explanation since you can't show me the scripture that said “Jesus is God” verbatim?

As for the voice of an archangel, He can come in any voice He chooses. That doesn't mean He is then an archangel. He spoke to John in the voice of many waters, does that make Him many waters?

Don't fill the scriptures with your own words. The Bible can speak for itself. The scriptures then should then say:

"And He shall come in the voice of Archangel Michael."

Or

"And He shall come as Archangel Michael."

Or

"And He shall come in the form of Archangel Michael."

Or

"And He shall speak with the voice of Archangel Michael."



I know you shuddered at those scriptures but you've made up your mind to maintain your ego. Those scriptures are explicit enough, but if you want something more direct, look at Romans 9:4-5

King James

Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.



New Living Translation

"Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen"

Christian Standard Bible

"The ancestors are theirs, and from them, by physical descent, came the Christ, who is God over all, praised forever. Amen."

New International Version

"Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen."

Stunned?

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free

DappaD:
Me now I'm asking

Where did the Bible say “Jesus is God” ?
Simple!
I don't need too much explanations.

You're avoiding the question. Good. Shows your claim to a Michaelic Jesus is false.

Many scriptures reveal that Jesus is God. See below:

John 1

John.1.1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Continued
John.1.10 - 12

He was in the world, and the world was made by him, [/b]and the world knew him not.
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

John.1.14
[b]And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John.1.17 -18
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

The above scripture reveals:

1. Jesus pre-existed as the Word, and not as an angel.
2. The Word itself is God
3. The word became flesh (Jesus) and dwelt among men.
4. The Word that became flesh was rejected by His own for they knew Him not. Some today even think He's angel Michael.
5. He is the only begotten of the Father.

Now the Word was. The Word was God. The Word became flesh. God, the Word transformed Himself to man! Hallelujah!!

The Holy Spirit added, that "...Grace and truth came by Jesus Christ." Deliberately mentioning His name so that some people won't come up and say, the Word is Moses, Michael or Mohammed.

Talking about Jesus in
1st Timothy 6:15

"..which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords"

Who is the blessed and only potentate? The Almighty God. The Word that became flesh and dwelt among men. His name isn't Michael. His name is Jesus Christ. Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

DappaD:
Simple question we've been asking all of you trinitarians for decades.

Where did the Bible say that Jesus is the Almighty God ?
As in show us the Bible verse that said
“Jesus is God” verbatim please.

Unless you saw Jesus in Isaiah 9:6 I suggest you don't quote it anymore since the idea of considering context eludes the most of you.

Before I answer your question, just first tell me right now, where the Bible says Jesus is angel Michael. Tell me right now, and I'll give you a whole drum of truth.

You hate Isaiah 9:6 because it exposes your heresy. What's out of context in that scripture that explicitly prophesied the Virgin birth?

Tell us now, just one scripture that says Jesus is Michael.

Maximus69:
Just present a performing group of PEACE loving worshipers whose LOVE can be testified by all observers.
Your faith without visible works is futile! James 2:26

Faith is an individual thing, not congregational. What exactly do you call love? In 1Cor. 13, Paul wrote that one can give himself so much for another and yet have no love.

True love happens only when you take God as God is, and take His word as He has presented it. Those who twist the scriptures have no love of God in them.

Maximus69:
He was given a new name on planet earth and at the pronouncement of his new name every knee must bow but Michael was his name before he came to the earth. That's why God's word said he has been exacted high above all others!

Whether you like it or not know today that Michael is Jesus' name in the spirit realms, we've gotten the evidence more than ever today. If you want to refute it just present his subjects today on earth but remember that as the PRINCE of PEACE {Isaiah 9:6-7} there must be PEACE amongst them {John 14:27} throughout the earth and everyone must testify to the LOVE in their midst! John 13:34-35

Surely, you have allowed Satan to fool you. Jesus was evidently revealed in the Bible. The Apostles who handed down the faith knew no Michael Jesus. Paul wrote many Epistles, even instructed the colossians not to worship angels. If Jesus was Michael, the book of colossians would have been the best place for Paul to mention it as the writer of Hebrews wrote about Melchizedek.

One thing I know about Jesus is this, in John 1, He was called the Word of God.

"And the Word became flesh and dwelt among men."

In Revelation, He was also called the Word of God. Jesus pre-exihsted as the Word of God, and not as an angel. It was the Word that became flesh, not an angel becoming flesh.

Maximus69:
It's deeper things that you can't understand no matter how hard you try because you're not ready to submit to those given the understanding! Daniel 12:10

But if everyone hear want to know what judging the Angels means we will teach you!

Hahaha. So you have such deeper things similar to you 'Michael is Jesus' ideology. Deeper things derived from twisted truths. Teacher, teach yourself. You who are washed by the blood of Michael and redeemed by his crucifixtion, will be welcomed to Michael's eternal kingdom at the end of time.

That day is coming. It shall be very terrible for some people.

Maximus69:
When their Pastors read any verse in the Bible, they just cherry-pick whatever talk about heaven but what exactly they're going there to do is not known to them!

Just imagine going to judge the angels and Michael the chief commander of God's heavenly armies will be judged by you, for what offence o?

Why don't you interpret the said cherry-picked verse? When you want to lie, you simply deny evidence. The Bible said it so clearly. Please, distort that verse, and make it say what it does not say, as you do other scriptures.

Maximus69:
Jesus (Michael) after his earthly assignment returned to heaven and sat at the right hand of God {Act 7:56} until JEHOVAH the (ALMIGHTY GOD) ordered him to start Acting as King! Psalms 110:1 compare to Act 2:34-35

So Jesus was never the Almighty God, he was enthroned and it was after his enthronement that he was given the power {Matthew 28:18} to start ruling in the midst of his enemies!

Horrendous. Very nauseating theology. This smells really bad. Jesus is Michael? He who the scriptures claim to be one with the father? He who is called the mighty God in Isaiah 9:6? He who is called King of kings and Lord of lords in Revelation 22? He who raised Lazarus from the dead. The Lord Jesus who walked on water and rebuked a raging storm. He who rebuked Satan and cast out devils, and gave His disciples authority to do the same. The disciples returned and said "Even the devils were subject to us at your name."

Michael who could not rebuke Satan in the book of Jude, is Jesus? Why has the devil filled the earth with so much deceit and falsehood? This makes me weep. How on Earth can one study his Bible and still remains blinded, following the doctrines of men?

Someone just told me now that Michael died for his sins. What type of Bible are you guys reading?

One thing is certain, " At the name of Michael, no knee shall bow, and no tongue will confess that Michael is Lord."

DappaD:
That's why I asked one simple question:



So you will go to heaven and judge angels abi?



Mr WizzyVine I didn't argue with you. I only wished you safe journey on the trip you're to embark on.

Why don't you direct your question to the One who wrote that verse of scripture? Am I the writer?

DappaD:
OK!
So you will go to heaven and judge angels abi?
Safe journey on your trip there

To be deceived, you only need to be ignorant. But, when you openly parade that ignorance in a show of pride, it is disheartening.

Read the scriptures:

1 Cor. 6:3

Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

DappaD:
You're misconstruing that Isaiah 9:6 scripture oo
Are you saying that mortal men and the other angels in heaven haven't been called this title “Mighty God”[El Gibbor] before?
Well for your information, Moses was God[El Gibbor] when he stood before Pharaoh—Exodus 7:1
Angels in heaven are also mighty gods—Psalm 103:20 so that title isn't exclusive to one person only.




WizzyVine I won't continue with you much longer, seeing your questions are merely repetitive.

My questions are pointing you to search your soul and reconsider your heresy.

Look, Psalm 82:6 says,

I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High.

In that context,.all the children of God are gods. Yes, even as all the children of man are men, and all the children of rat are rats.

So, the scriptures say "I have made you a god unto Pharaoh." Notice the words, 'I have made', and the words 'a god'.

In sharp contrast to Isaiah 9:6, speaking concerning the son that should be born, "He shall be called the... Mighty God."

No mortal man or angel have ever been called 'The Mighty God'. Remove the definite article 'The' and return the 'G' case to lower case 'g' for god when referring to men and angels.

Being a god is not tantamount to being The Mighty God. There is a massive deception going on here.

Now, if you believe Jesus to be Michael, and that Michael died for your sins, it means you're a worshiper of angel Michael. But I know that at the mention of the name of 'Michael', no knee shall bow, and no tongue shall confess that Michael is Lord.

I never knew till today that such horrendous form of theological heresy exists in christiendom till today. I went online to research if any group exists with your kind of belief. I found to my surprise, that the 7th day Adventists and Jehovah Witnesses hold this strange theology. No wonder other Christians label these groups as cults.

I then began to see why the Apostle Paul addressed this issue in his epistle to the church at Colosse, instructing them never to worship angels. And I seriously believe that this epistle would have been the best place for Paul to speak in detail about Michael if Michael was Jesus, just as the writer of Hebrews explained fully the issue of Melchizedek.

To confess against your own soul that Michael died for you, almost brought tears to my eyes. I saw how men can be so blinded by counterfeit theology when they neglect to pursue the revelation of the Holy Spirit.

See, the Bible is not alphabets and stories, it takes the help of the Holy Spirit to see light and illumination from the Living Word.

I'm not a trinitarian, neither can I ever be. I don't belong to any denomination, neither do I hold on to any denominational doctrines.

The truth of the Bible is my doctrine, I don't care about any church Creed. Of course, call me what you like, but simply, I am a disciple of Jesus Christ. And I am one of those who will judge angels as the Bible has said in 1Cor. 6:3. And Michael of course, is also one who shall be judged by the saints.

DappaD:
What part of Matthew 28:18, Ephesians 1:20,21 and Philippians 2:9 don't you understand?

You mean the Mighty God and Everlasting Father of Isaiah 9:6, didn't have authority over his creatures until he resurrected? You and I know too well that Jesus displayed authority on earth ever before being crucified.

1. He walked on water
2. He raised the dead
3. He cast out demons
4. Luke 9 and 10, He gave authority to His disciples to cast out devils and heal the sick.

I ask again, who died for your sins? The King of kings or one of the chief princes?

DappaD:
Yes Michael the archangel died to rescue me from sin and death — Matthew 20:28, 1Timothy 2:5,6

Michael:

But the prince of the kingdom of Persia opposed me twenty-one days. So Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, and I left him there with the prince of the kingdom of Persia (Daniel 10:13).

Jesus:

On his robe and on his thigh He has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords. (Rev. 19:16).

We see Jesus rebuking the devil during his 40 day fasting in the wilderness. In Jude, Michael could not even rebuke Satan, only said, "The Lord rebuke you."

I ask again, who died for your sins? Is it Jesus the King of kings and Lord of lords, or, Michael, one of the chief princes?