₦airaland Forum

kingreign:
What does it entails for a location to be a city?

School me.

I checked again, you are the foool here 😁
Pick up a textbook and educate yourself. Noise no dey cover ignorance

kingreign:
There you go. It's easier to see that you are defining things from an elementary point of view.


I'm done with you, bye!

You really do not know how low I rate you 😁

kingreign:
A little googling would had helped you off this embarrassing situation.

Physical attributes are not the only reason to label a place an urban area.
Population of over 20,000 people, administrative, economic and legal considerations are also important factors in labeling a place an urban centre. This is just the basic for Urban planning definition.

I just Googled it, turns out that you are still proudly saying rubbish 😁

kingreign:
Lol, unfortunately, you're the one who's very wrong and you're ignorant about it.

I've been using Satellite imageries to map out areas of study or interest for over a decade professionally. That should tell you something.

Dude, you are yet to grasp the basics, drop your pride and take up and an SS1 geography textbook to check the definition of Urban and rural settings.
The earlier you realize that you re empty, the better for you

kingreign:
Ignore him. He has an over bloated ego but doesn't know anything about this topic he's taking up

You re just busy blabbing and goofing. I stopped taking you seriously when you missed thr definition of urban area

kingreign:
Lol, unfortunately, you're the one who's very wrong and you're ignorant about it.

I've been using Satellite imageries to map out areas of study or interest for over a decade professionally. That should tell you something.

it's funny because you don't even know the definition or urban area, where did you say you work again?
😁

kingreign:
Built up areas are different by definition from Urban areas.

An Urban area may be so called due to administrative, spatial, physical (infrastructural), population or economic reasons.

A built up area is so called because of the level physical of development (physical ans infrastructural).


Know this and know peace.

From the map, if you actually knew how to read maps, the whole of Ibadan urban area were marked, it's still not up to 1000km square. You are becoming laughable.

Ibadan Urban is less than 800km square. Go bck to geography class and get basics on map reading abd the definition of urban settlement. You illiterate.

And urban setting is usually a built up area. It's basic

kingreign:
You know nothing about Urban Planning, Land Survey, Environmental Management so no need arguing blindly with you.


Arguing with you is like a cobbler arguing with a Medical doctor about how to perform a Biopsy procedure

Coming from an African expert who does not understand how basic maps like Google works 😁

The only person who works in ministry of works and still don't understand basics of maps 😁

kingreign:
Going by your definition,
lake Ontario stops Ontario from being an urban area, the Thames River stops London from being an Urban area. The Hudson River stops New York from being an Urban area.

Interestingly, you're very wrong!

No need arguing over what's completely wrong.

if I add thr forests in Ibadan, are you going to be happy?

MadamExcellency:
Google is not living in the Southeast and only gives you what Gabbage it was fed.

It was only Southeast tribal politics that stopped the creation of Aba State when East Central State was divided by Gen Gowon in 1976 alongside old Imo (Imo, Abia and Ebonyi) and Anambra States (Enugu and new Anambra).

Aba is like Lagos State where every Yoruba thinks he/she has a stake hence it is a melting pot of Igbo tribes and clans. At present, Aba Urban comprises 5 LGAs and at large is a total of 9 LGAs. (Old Aba District under the British colonial rule).

I remember in 1979 when we schooled in Aba what the city represents even after the war.

Actually Google lives everywhere. It's a satellite.
Go read up on satellites and then come back when you grasp the basics

kingreign:
Sorry to bust your bubbles and put an end to this impression you have. That said you sound needlessly rude.

Google map although being a satellite imagery software isn't the satellite mapping used professionally for geographical and urban purposes. QGIS and ArcGIS is a much professional tool compared to Google Maps.

I'm a qualified professional urban planner and I have worked in Ministry of Environment in Ibadan North LGA.

If you like be minister of housing, Ibadan urban from the map is not up to 3080km.

Maybe, combining the forests in other parts of the smaller local government can mke it that size. Let's do argue thr obvious.

If we are going by your definitions, do you think thay Kano city will not be larger, you want us to add forests and deserts?

Going by your difinition, Onitsha will be way larger than Ibadan. Because I will have to include Ekwulobia to Onitsha

kingreign:
What's your definition of the following terms:
1. Urban area
2. Built up area?

Yes, cluster of buld up area that is not separated by large natural boundary like forest, large river or big lake. Ibadan city urban cannot reach 3080km square going by that definition.

It's clear to see on tha map. Don't argue

kingreign:
Sorry to bust your bubbles and put an end to this impression you have.

Google map although being a satellite imagery software isn't the satellite mapping used professionally for geographical and urban purposes. QGIS and ArcGIS is a much professional tool compared to Google Maps.

I'm a qualified professional urban planner and I have worked in Ministry of Environment in Ibadan North LGA.

There no how you will map ibadan to be 3080km square.
Unless you will be adding vast land full of forests.

From gooel map, you will clearly see thr urban areas inside of Ibadan and then calculate the area

Ogene001:
Do why did you add Obosi and nkpor? Are they Onitsha people. Stop disgracing yourself

Because there's no clear boundary. Like thick bushes or so.
This also applies to Lagos, there's a clear boundary like Bushes and swamp between Main Lagos and Ikorodu, else I would hve added Ikorodu to Lagos

Ogene001:
It's obvious you are a clown. Nobody is talking about people or culture affiliations, we are talking urban metropolitan area

You are an idiot. No one is talking about metro here.
We are talking about cities.
If it's about metro, I would hve added Mbaise to owerri and Epe/ikorodu/ Badagry to Lagos... You can cry all you want, I won't add Abagana, Oba and Awkuzu to Onitsha

Ogene001:
If things are always my way your attempt to "balance things" is nonesense. Facts are sacrosanct even if one person have his way 100%

Oba, Abagana and Nnewi cannot be added to Onitsha. They are standalone towns. An Nnewi or Oba man is not an Onitsha person.

An Awkuzu man no be onitsha man.

Ogene001:
And you are nobody and facts don't respect your personal feelings

No, An Aguleri or Abagana person knows that he's not part of onitsha. We cannot twist facts to make you happy

Ogene001:
Even Google map is clear. Onitsha urban sprawl is largest in Nigeria

That's by you, the data says otherwise.
Things can't always go your way

Ogene001:
Ibadan has no countryside. SE have well development and sprawling countryside towns. We have been trying to educate you people but you refused to learn. International organizations have decided but you are here disgracing yourself

I'm from southeast, I cannot add Oba, Abagana, akwuzu and Aguleri as part of Onitsha. You and I know they re not part of Onitsha. There's no amount of cry. The best I can do is at ogidi, it's still debatable

Ogene001:
Stop disgracing yourself. Experts have decided the extents of Onitsha urban metro. Your opinion is irrelevant

Google map workers are experts as well 😁

kingreign:
Are you an urban planner?

This comment isn't true pls.

No I'm not, but Google map cannot lie.
Because the satellite sees everything. Sorry to bust your bubbles

LegendHero:
Those area I mentioned are part of Oluyole LG and was not included. Because you see the labeling Oluyole on the map do not necessarily means everything was covered. You can see the areas I mentioned and even OP himself was strategic enough not to reply me.

lol Onitsha? Even on the map OP uploaded, Ibadan is 5 times the size of Onitsha so I don’t know what you’re talking about.

Except you don’t understand mathematics.

it was included, you go back and read the first comment.
Every single part of Ibadan was within the circle nd oluyole was clearly stated within it.

We are not taking about local governments with no settlements, we are talking about actual urban area

Ogene001:
Whatever you do is irrelevant. You are not an authority in the matter. Google, Demographia and Mackenzie have decided

i added ogidi, ogbunike and umunya.
248km square, google cannot lie.
dont cry because it does not favour your sentiments

Ogene001:
But you can add Ikeja to Lagos. Be deceiving yourself. Are you greater than other well established international authorities? Even your Google map is clear

okay, I will redo that of Onitsha but I won't add Oba to Onitsha, it's not part of Onitsha

Ogene001:
Thank you. These people keep deceiving themselves despite Demographia deciding the extent of Onitsha metro largest in Nigeria by landmass

lol
These onitsha people and wahala

Ogene001:
See how you cut off small section of Onitsha

How do you mean?
Should I be adding Abagana, Awka and Nnewi to Onitsha? 0

I even added Atani to Onitsha, it's still debatable because Atani is a standalone town in Ogbaru local government

Ikaeniyan0:
Ikorodu and Ilorin sef dust onitsha

Yes but Onitsha is dense. Very dense.
Because they have alot of highrise buildings.

mandarin:
Please share other major cities. Want to see Kano, Abuja etc.

Abuja is to difficult to extrapolate, the settlements are separated by great distances?

MadamExcellency:
How is Owerri bigger than Aba? Please stop smoking that weed. Ask questions if you don't know.

I asked Google map and it says so.

When did you do your own measurement?

modernWays:
Only Lagos and Kano are bigger than Ibadan city.

According to Google Maps, Kano is smaller than Lagos, Ibadan and Kaduna.

It's by urban area settlement of the city and not by the total local government in it.

God1000:
Makurdi 804 km2


You got Ibadan wrong it's 3,080 km²

No, Ibadan is not that larger.

mrvitalis:
Your biased for Onitsha was just too obvious sha... It obviously everyone can clearly see the whole Onitsha metropolitan area and you covered 30% of it max

I am not talking about metro, I cannot add ogbunike and Abagana to onitsha, they are not part of Onitsha