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omohayek:
Actually, I don't think it's quite right to say they aren't "real" - they are one possible explanation advanced for the "Casimir Effect".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect

Those looking for a slightly more rigorous introduction to the topic might find these slides interesting.

https://faculty.washington.edu/seattle/physics541/%202010-reading/virtual-5.pdf

thanks, I will go through it.

helinues:
Go through the thread yourself and see how others have exposed your half knowledge about the discussion

lol, others.

You are mentality incapable of discussing this topic. I know what I am saying. Go back to politics section and fight some Obidients, that's your specialty

mayor1814:
OP all this intelligence you have, dissecting and demystifying quantum physics and all is from where? So ur intelligence is not from anywhere, it comes by chance.

if energy is not conserved then it means that data was created from nothing or lost to nothing.

jmoore:
In the next trillion years, something can never come out from nothing scientifically.

Well, that's not true. Law of casualty breaks down at the quantum realm

jmoore:
Then find out first. You can't prove what you don't know.

Did you read my post?

helinues:
Perhaps you are referring to yourself @ bolded, the idea of something came from nothing was about big bang theory but JSWT just flopped that argument cos it will be too early for a galaxy to form 300 years after the big bang .

Btw, when did scientist agree on quantum physics theory, when was big bang theory agreed on?

May be you are outdated sha

again, you didn't read the post. You are the dummy.
This is not Tinubu and Obi talk. You are incapable of discussing this topic

Nezan:
Stop manipulating the concept of quantum physics to suit your narrative

this is bullshit sir. From religious people

jmoore:
"Virtual particles have been demonstrated. theoretically. This part is good science. What is not good science is claiming that it is something from nothing. Virtual pair production requires a quantum field—this is something not nothing"


Deception is different from quantum physics.

We still don't know a lot

TenQ:
Ants dummy!

We were talking computer programming


Are you aware that in computer programming, we write some programs that self destructs after it has executed it's task?
Is this stupidity or wisdom in programming ?

ok, so how does thsy correlate with ants?

helinues:
The universe coming from nothing is illogical discussion.

Nothing can come from nothing. The big bang theory is even flop as JSWT just detected some galaxies formed 300 years after big bang which is not possible

you didn't understand every I posted, did you?

Or you didn't bother reading it?
This is quantum physics, it's not meant for dummies

jmoore:
Scientifically, something cannot come out from nothing ..

not in quantum physics. In the quantum realm, we know nothing about its reality

ambimo:
have you ever known or seen something made out of nothing? If you have, tell us.

What's the point of this?

Westerhoffe:
But still not…?

Yes, in a sense. Quantum theory predicts that a "virtual particle" pair can appear spontaneously from a vacuum state, without any input of energy or matter. But it's important to understand that these virtual particles are not "real" in the traditional sense. They don't have mass or momentum, and they only exist for a very brief time. It's not like something is literally popping into existence out of nothing - it's a more complex and subtle process that's described by the mathematics of quantum physics.

Kenneth4u205:
It's noth possible for something to come out of nothing. The universe came out of invisible something. That thing it came out from being invisible doesn't mean that it is nothing.

It's not that something literally comes "out of nothing" - it's more like a vacuum state that has the potential to contain energy and particles. Quantum fluctuations occur when the energy and particles in this vacuum state fluctuate and become "real". It's not really "nothing" in the traditional sense - it's a vacuum that can create matter and energy. This is one of the most puzzling and difficult concepts in modern physics. It's still being actively debated and researched.

Zxcvbnmghtr:
Trying to sound intelligent.

Well, it doesn't make sense. I know, we still don't understand it but it's real.
Something can come out of nothing in the quantum world. It's real

Kenneth4u205:
It's noth possible for something to come out of nothing. The universe came out of invisible something. That thing it came out from being invisible doesn't mean that it is nothing.

Did you read the post?

judatech:
I love mind-bending topics like this... concluded?

I wanted to keep it very short, I can take a y question that you may have

TenQ:
I went to school to learn it.


You don't know that in computer programming, we write some programs that self destructs after it has executed it's task?

Is this stupidity or wisdom in programming ?

So you learnt in school that ants were programmed by a programmer?.. What's the name of your school?

TenQ:
Have they gone out of extinction?

Are they on danger list?

Were they meant to dominate the earth?

If the answer os No!, how is it your problem is a programmer wrote a computer code that self destructs after it has perfomed it's primary function.


Are you aware that in computer programming, we write some programs that self destructs after it has executed it's task?

Is this stupidity or wisdom in programming ?

How did you know all these?

I'm an agnostic, I am seeking knowledge and I usually have debates with atheists and theists alike. Today, I want to engage theists who think that the universe cannot pop out of nothing, if you think it cannot then you need some basic lectures in quantum physics.
I'm not saying that this is definitely, but I'm saying that it's a real possibility that nothing created the universe or maybe, nothing created whatever created the universe but let's unravel the universe first.

One of the strange implications of quantum physics is that, in certain cases, it's possible for something to be created from nothing. This is called "quantum fluctuation" or "quantum tunneling". It's possible for a particle to pop into existence from the vacuum of space, without any cause or input of energy. This process is thought to be responsible for the creation of matter in the early universe, and it's one of the fundamental mysteries of quantum physics.
In the quantum realm energy is not always conserved. In fact, the conservation of energy, one of the most fundamental laws of physics, can actually be violated on the quantum scale. This is called the "uncertainty principle", and it states that certain pairs of properties of a particle, like energy and time, cannot be known simultaneously. As a result, energy can appear and disappear in the quantum realm, without any apparent cause. It's another mind-bending aspect of quantum physics.
Quantum physics is so counterintuitive that it can be difficult to wrap your head around. But remember, just because something doesn't make sense in our everyday experience doesn't mean it's not real. The universe is stranger than we can imagine, and quantum physics is teaching us that reality is far more complex than we previously thought. So don't worry if it's making your head spin - you're not alone! 😉
Quantum physics is very different from classical physics, which is the kind of physics we experience in our everyday lives. Classical physics is based on the idea that the universe is deterministic, meaning that everything is governed by fixed laws and predictable outcomes. Quantum physics, on the other hand, is based on the idea that the universe is probabilistic, meaning that there is a certain degree of randomness and uncertainty built into the laws of nature. Quantum physics challenges many of the assumptions that we make about the universe in our daily lives. Many physicists believe that quantum physics offers a potential solution to the age-old question of how the universe began. In the Big Bang theory, the universe is thought to have begun with a single, massive burst of energy and matter. But this leaves the question of where that energy and matter came from in the first place. Quantum physics offers the idea that the universe may have created itself spontaneously, without any external cause, through a process called "quantum tunneling". This is still a highly debated topic, but it's one of the most fascinating ideas in modern physics.Quantum tunneling is a truly bizarre and mind-bending phenomenon. It's the idea that a quantum particle can seemingly "tunnel" through an energy barrier that it shouldn't be able to pass through according to classical physics. This happens because quantum particles don't behave like "particles" in the traditional sense - they can act like waves, and waves can pass through barriers. So a quantum particle can appear on the other side of a barrier without ever crossing the barrier itself. It's a bit like teleportation, but on the atomic scale!

So yes, there's a world that doesn't make sense to our current understanding, we still do not know a lot about it. In this world, common basic laws like casualty and conservation of energy breaks down hence the universe creating itself is not an impossibility. We have seen something coming out of nothing in the quantum world.
Based on this, I advice everyone to wait and not jump into any definite conclusion yet. We still do not know a lot.

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iLoveYouToo:
Buhari fooling us all is the reason I went for Tinubu (known evil genius), Obi appeared as saintly as Buhari. Maybe I should’ve supported Atiku 🤔


I’m still 100% counting on Tinubu to succeed

In just about 4 years, you will know deep down whether you are right or you want it keep deceiving yourself.

Tinubu cannot become a good president. He was not a good governor

ibinaboonline:
The truth is Abia people need to be civilized. Just watch; the contractor wouldn't even have finished the job before the people return to the roads with their market wares. This is what dirty and ruins the roads. For example, can abians deny the impressive work their former governor did with that Ngwa road leading to cemetery. Go there now and the place is not motorable. Not because the road has broken down again but because market people literally converted the roads to stalls. Why can't you help the government help you? I don't see much progress from such civilization. They need iron hand, honestly.

this does not only happen in Abia. Stop being a hypocrite.
You will see this in every part of the country including Abuja.

While I agree that Abia needs development, streering selling is a menace herein Lagos

iLoveYouToo:
We all have arguments for and against all the big 3. I have dossiers on all of them. Asides having shady credentials, Tinubu had proven to be a good administrator. His falling out with the APC top brass in the build up to the last election was more than enough reason to support him.

It’s not over yet, I won’t rate the president until the court cases have been treated and he had been at the helm of affairs for at least 6months.

Every new government faces STIFF challenges, the system always fights them till they maneuver, negotiate or overcome


So far Tinubu has been maneuvering and negotiating, which isn’t enough

Irrespective of your argument, truth is always objective and it time, it will reveal itself.
This is how we warned you about Buhari, with time you will see that of Tinubu. You people just like retrogression

Nairaland24:
Better than you am sure

How did you know?
🤣

Nairaland24:
Go and make yourself useful maybe you can reach the highest peak of Jagabans success you hating nicompoop nobody

You that is useful, where have you reached in your life?

Nairaland24:
Abeg fvck off you shallow troll

Go and eat Ebo at orita meta.

What a very poor way to reason

Nairaland24:
Hating Tinubu should not make you a lunatic

Less than 50 days in Office, without a cabinet, without National Assembly you start claiming Buhari's error on Tinubu

Are you foolish slowpoke or something

So Tinubu that had not even planned his budget or implemented any policy is your problem

Abeg I can't be talking to this daft illiterate

No wonder your business crumbles... You are close to stupid


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Whose business?

He doesn't even have the mental capacity to read my post properly? 😅

Nairaland24:
You are very ignorant... Go back to school and learn how Government works

Go and learn what they call Budget

You obviously think a President is a dictator that just make pronouncement like magic

World Bank gave Buhari $800m to cushion effects of subsidy and it was passed to Tinubu

keep quiet, the budget was to remove the subdisy by 25% every quarter before you buffoon removed it outright. This would have given time for refineries to come

You are illiterate.
Your Tinubu is failing, in your face

iLoveYouToo:
Funny how you got into peoples heads to decide it was prejudice that informed their decisions.

For every tribalistic Yoruba man, there’s a tribalistic Igbo man to match him.

I know yorubas who voted LP, I also know Igbos who voted APC.

WE CANT DENY THERE’S PREJUDICE AND ALSO CAN’T RULE OUT GENUINE FAITH AND SUPPORT

All the parties carried out negative political campaigns against each other.

The impact of success or failure of government can’t be felt in isolation.

If Tinubu was succeeding, would you exclude yourself from the gains of a government you didn’t succeed?


That’s the truth of the narrative you’re selling

We are all in this together in whole and part

Irrespective of Tinubu's tribe m, he does not have what it takes to be a good president.
He only has power of a plutocrat.

I had always knew that Tinubu won't succeed if he becomes president because the pictures are clear for everyone to see. Only the blind cannot see it

Nairaland24:

Now you see how ignorant you are


1: Subsidy is budgeted annually By the National Assembly and Ahmed Lawan's 9th Assembly didn't make any Budget for subsidy


2: Tinubu can't appropriate Money from CBN for Subsidy without Senate Approval, yet Senate is yet to Inuagurate necessary committees

3: Nigeria can not continue subsidizing Dollars through Oil revenue so that some people can import junks or travel around other countries, Get your Dollars whatever rate you want

Shut up, we have budgeted gradual subsidy removal to cushion the effect. Tinubu removed it outrightly. Stop defending rubbish

Nairaland24:
So who removed subsidy on Petroleum product

Mention the person

The president, Tinubu.

My issue is that not he removed it, the issue is he removed it with using his brain. Just like his supporters.

Only an idiot removes subsidy without any refinery and at the same time allows his currency to be floating in the market. Very stupid act