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Dtruthspeaker:
Morality was Created and Set by Christianity!

ok

Dtruthspeaker:
Like my mother told me "So if people throw themselves into the sea, you would follow them?"

That's why the Bible says "man is a fool but he thinks he is wise!"

Monkey See, Monkey do.

Note: True Followers of God Do Not Do Such things! They are few but they are out there!

you can also get morality outside of Christianity.

Simple

KnownUnknown:
How are they ridiculous?

I don’t know what an afterlife is, so you have to clarify .

That was why my question was not directed to you.

Donchris3:
I am an evidence

How?
You could be deluded you know?

KnownUnknown:
Fair enough.



Before I can answer.
What is the afterlife?
Is there a beforelife?
Where is the afterlife?

Are these not ridiculous questions?

Donchris3:
Spiritual powers deh oh

Do you have evidence for this sir?

KnownUnknown:
What happens to you in the meta-afterlife if you don’t live up to moral standards in Ifa philosophy?

Meta-afterlife begins when your soul dies in the afterlife.

Sorry, you have not answered my question.
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advanceDNA:
There’s no how you will truly continue in faith what’ God provided that it won’t reflect in your moral standards....

Remeber I added the clause that some people don’t continue... that’s why we have people with christain tags, that kill, steal, sleep with people’s wives and husband like it’s nothing

Ok, you agree that there’s a moral standard in Christianity which will be achieved as result of the faith in your deity. Obviously this moral standards were set by your deity.

So on what basis should Christianity be an arbiter of morality?

What difference does it make if I attain morality outside of Christianity?

advanceDNA:
Oh...u decided to jump here... no problem.. i’ll Indulge u....

First... is someone selling religion to you on the basis of morality....?I don’t know about the other side... I only know about Christiandom....

U don’t become a Christian becos u want to achieve a moral standard... u become a Christian becos u accept and believe God’s provision for salvation....

Continuing in the provision through faith is what empowers through his spirit to drop the vices you listed... ..

Like I said many don’t take their faith and walk with God seriously when they adopt the tag Christians....Just as being an atheist doesn’t automatically make you morally upright ..

So what happens to you in the afterlife if you don’t meet the moral standards in Christianity?

advanceDNA:
Ddnt u see where I said any one can be moral by being disciplined.... and also went further that discipline can also come through faith and religious system??

So why are u still claiming I refused to account for the fact that one can get discipline outside of faith and belief system. ??

Bros..the context of second and theirs paragraph is written all over your first post...first u claim there’s no point in being Christian or religious just to be moral..u the went further that Christians do wrong than the average atheist.

If that’s not the height of saying atheist are morally better than Christians then I don’t know what is

Your first comment explains it all, you cannot sell religion on the basis of morality.

If you want to be moral, just be disciplined.

advanceDNA:
.any one can have strong moral values with discipline....and discipline can also come tru religious/ faith system....

some people don’t just take their beliefs serious... partly becos many were born into it and have no serious personal encounter or conviction..... I don’t think this should be difficult for your to understand


But Claiming Christians are sinful than atheist is just fallacy and a desperate move to invalidate the need for being a Christian...

If u feel being an atheist makes u better, enjoy ur life ...

I strongly share your notion on the premise that morality is a factor of discipline and discipline can also be gotten from faith and beliefs. However you also refuse to account for the fact that one can get discipline outside of faith and belief system.

I am still looking for where I indicated that atheists are more moral than Christians. Maybe you should comprehend my post properly.

Kobojunkie:
Your plan was to attempt religion plainly for moral reasons?

Not really, I’m trying to let people see that religion is not the bane of morality, religion hijacked morality and you can’t sell religion on the basis of morality. And even on the basis of morality, religious people are not good examples for morality.

If you need to believe in God to know that killing someone is bad then that’s definitely psychopathy.

I really do not see the moral ground to become a Christian or a Muslim.

What is it that I do that religious people don’t do on moral grounds?

Fornication
Lying
Killing
Adultery
Coveting
Etc

Religious people, especially Christians are As sinful as an average atheist and when they do it they hide under the tone of grace to commit everything they preach against.

I do not see any reason to want to live the life of a Christian or Muslim, it’s a hypocritical life and they are not good standard for morality. Just take a good look around you and observe the so called religious people, do they live an exemplary moral lifestyle?
Majority of them do not? Nowadays even full time prostitutes are religious

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