The Quran it self have many miracles that bibbbbble CAN NEVER HAVE:

The numerical miracle in the Qur’an involves numerous numbers, of which 7 is the primary one. But why 7? It seems that this number shares a strong relationship with the way our universe was created and structured. The Earth has seven layers: the crust, lithosphere, upper mantle, astenoshpere, lower mantle, outer core and inner core. The atmosphere has 7 layers: the Troposphere, Stratosphere, Ozonosphere, Mesosphere, Thermosphere, Ionosphere and the Exosphere. Atoms, the basic building blocks of matter, have a seven-layered structure. The universe has 7 skies, and the one we see decorated with stars at night is only one of those 7.

God Almighty perhaps wanted to include this fascinating number not only in his creations, but in his Holy book. Now, I will attempt to explain some miracles of the number 7 in the Qur’an:

• The number of verses in the Qur’an that referred to the seven skies is actually 7!

• The word “the Hereafter” is mentioned 70 times in the Quran, a multiple of 7!

• Hell-Fire has seven doors to it, and the number of times the word “Hell-Fire” (‘Jahannam’ in Arabic) is repeated in the Qur’an is 77, a multiple of 7!

• The first time God Almighty (Allah) mentions the number 7 in the Qur’an was in Chapter 2, Verse 29 when he says: “It is He Who hath created for you all things that are on earth; then He turned to heaven and made them into seven firmaments; and of all things He hath perfect knowledge. (29)”. The last time Allah mentions the number 7 is in Chapter 78, Verse 12 when he states: “And (have We not) built over you the seven firmaments, (12)”. Now observe this:

o The number of chapters between the first chapter that mentions this number and the last chapter that mentions it is 77, a multiple of 7!

o Not only that, but amazingly, the number of verses between the first verse that mentions 7 and the last verse that mentions 7 is 5649, also a multiple of 7.

o And even more amazingly, the number of verses that come from the beginning of Chapter 2 until the verse where 7 is first mentioned is the exact same number of verses as from the verse where 7 is last mentioned until the end of Chapter 78: 28 verses, which is also a multiple of 7!

o Furthermore, from the very beginning of Chapter 2, the chapter which first mentions number 7, to the very end of Chapter 78, the chapter which last mentions it, there are exactly 5705 verses, a multiple of 7! Check it yourself!

o The number of verses that come before the first verse where 7 is mentioned is 35, which is a multiple of 7, and the number of verses that come before the verse where 7 is last mentioned is 5684, a multiple of 7!

This is only a small ounce of the many examples of the wonders of number 7 in the Qur’an, let alone other prime numbers such as 13 and 19 and others. But the question remains to all those who question the Qur’an’s authenticity: could have all this happened by coincidence? Can this infallible accuracy have been sheer luck, or is there a precise system of mathematics that no one could have ever dreamed of concocting, proving through the language of numbers that this book is completely and utterly the word of God?

RightChannel:


Hope you're now getting sense gradually with those verses of your Quran??

I asked you to show me one miracle of paedophile prophet Muhammad as read from the quran, is this difficult for you to answer??

WITH ALL THESE GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS THE AUTHOR OF QURAN ASCRIBED TO JESUS CHRIST THAN Muhammad, if you don't believe in Jesus Christ then you're an ignorant..

Back to Muhammad, we as Christians only believe in Muhammad as an Agent of Devil sent by Satan to cause destructions. Muhammad never lived a good life someone can emulate, imagine someone you called a prophet sleeping with the dead in grave, he even disobeyed his own god allah, and many more atrocities like that

Miracles: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracles_of_Muhammad


You are 'black Kafir'
See, even the internet is full of evidence of the beautiful life of Our Prophet,

Christians that know the true History of Him, regards Him as the most honest of men, and recommend Him over any other man ever Lived!!!!

Unlike you, see what the literate among you xtians said:

https://www.iium.edu.my/deed/articles/muhammad.html

https://news.rice.edu/news/2021/christian-view-prophet-muhammad-explored-rice-sociologists-new-book

advocatejare:

The Quran people memorized is the one produced in 1924.

Before that time and during the time of Muhammad, even muhammad who claimed to receive the Quran forgot some parts of it not to talk of those who didn’t receive it.

Another contradiction in the Quran, Allah said muhammad won’t forget the Quran, yet muhammad forgot

1924 Hmmmm, with due regards, Ibn Kathir made tafseer book of the quran (explanation of the verses) since 1350, the same verse recorded abd translated/explained are still the ones in our Holy book, thausand of books about the quran where made, the same Quran the same verse the same Qira'at, pls guy you are so funny you keep talking about 1924 while the world 'Kuffars' (the great disbelievers) have already surrendered that the Quran was never modified, Billions of Muslims mastered it by heart and passed it down to their descendants (sons and grand sons) but you are here saying trash...

I can list here unlimited number of books written since 1000yrs Explaining the same Quran, and reference from Holy Quran, how can you depend your self while there is no single verse that was there in 1923 but removed in 1924 ? Can you provide one?

I owe you Contradictions (explanation) from Bible but it seems you are running from it.

RightChannel:


So since you were born up till today your alfas never open your eyes to these quran chapters and verses:

1. Jesus is the Messiah, Spirit and word of God: Quran 3:45, Quran 4:171

These are the miracles of Jesus Christ as slated by the author of Quran:

1. While Still in the Cradle:

"He shall speak to people while still in the cradle, and in manhood, and he shall be from the righteous." Quran 3:46

2. A Table Laden with Food:

"When the disciples said: O Jesus, son of Mary! Is your Lord able to send down for us a table spread with food from heaven? He said: Observe your duty to God, if ye are true believers. They said: We desire to eat of it and our hearts be at rest, and that We may know that you have spoken truth to us, and that We may be witnesses thereof. Jesus, son of Mary, said: 'O God, our Lord, send down for us a Table laden with food out of heaven, that shall be for us a recurring festival, the first and last of us, and a miracle from You. And provide us our sustenance, for You are the best of providers!" Quran 5:112-114

3. And It Becomes a Bird:

"I create for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird with God’s permission." Quran 3:49

4. Healing the Blind and the Leper:

"I also heal the blind and the leper." Quran 3:49

5. The Resurrection of the Dead:

"…and I bring to life the dead, by the permission of God." Quran 3:49

6. The Provisions of Today and Tomorrow:

"I inform you too of what things you eat, and what you store up in your houses. Surely in that is a sign for you, if you are believers." Quran 3:49

AND MANY MORE




You are growing through the use of bomb don't let one Alfa brainwashed you, make use of the internet to see how you are growing through the use of sophisticated weapons and see by yourself if you're more than the Christians




That is your tactics, when truth are been revealed, you always look for the next available exit door

Jesus is a prophet like every other prophet, I love the way you qoute and make use of the Holy Quran that I believe in, since you cannot use your outdated, self-conflicting book.

Ride on, Muslims loves Jesus p.b.u.h. till eternity, and our Rassool didn't hate him but regarded him as a good man.


Muslims are a ahead of you xtians, they love you and your leader but the so called 'Religion of Love' didn't teach you the love.

So now, did you believe in Quran? If not why are you trusting part of it an rejecting part of it?

[i]You remaind me about a verse..... So do you believe in part of the Scripture and disbelieve in part? Then what is the recompense for those who do that among you except disgrace in worldly life; and on the Day of Resurrection they will be sent back to the severest of punishment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.” ....[/i]Qur'an 2:86

RightChannel:


You will get sense las las

The author of quran said quran is complete, perfect and fully detailed. You should explain to us WHAT FULLY DETAILED MEANS

Quran 6:114

Should I seek a judge other than Allah when it is He who has sent down the well distinguished Book for you? Those to whom We have given the Book know that it is the truth sent down from your Lord, so do not be among the doubter


Quran 6:115


The Word of your Lord (which He sent down in parts in different periods considering the conditions of each period) is perfected (with the Qur’an) as the embodiment of truth (with respect to the essentials of belief, principles of worship and good conduct, the rules to govern human life, and all the tidings it gives considering the past and future including the Hereafter), and of justice (regarding all the commandments it contains): there is no altering of His words (the laws He has established for life, and the operation of the universe; attempting to interfere with them will bring about great disasters, so no one must ever attempt to change His commandments, which are contained in the Book). He is the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing (Who knows every need of every creature, every requirement of every age, just as He knows how you respond to His commandments)


Quran 7:52

We have given them a scripture that is fully detailed, with knowledge, guidance, and mercy for the people who believe.

IF YOU AND YOUR ALFAS, IMAMS, etc GET SENSE, DO YOU STILL NEED HADITH WHEN QURAN IS FULLY DETAILED




Behold the confusion in Quran

Your head is confused.

Give me DETAILs as to why Bible is confusing you.

I am here, answer the questions then ask yours, no wonder your brain act like that

advocatejare:

Like I’ve told you before, your sahih Hadith documented it, carry your frustrations to it.

So you expect it to be written in the Quran that Uthman had to rewrite it and burnt the original manuscripts?

You expect it to be written in the Quran that the first standardized Quran was written during the rule of uthman who ruled 12 years after the death of muhammad and finished his falsifications about 20 years after Muhammad had died?


You except the Quran to tell you that muhammad was not alive to confirm or refute the lies written by uthman and his editors?


You expect it to be written that in 900AD, that was about 300 years after muhammad had died, a man called Ibn Mujahid who never lived during the time of muhammad synthesized from no where the 7 new qirats (Uthman had burnt the original qirats)


You expect it to be written that one of Ibn Mujahid 7 qirats was the one re edited in Cairo in 1924 to give you the adulterated Quran you’re reading today?


You expect the Quran to tell you that diacritical marks were not in existence during the lifetime of Muhammad and when Uthman made his own adulterated Quran but the present day Quran have them?


As for contradictions, I can give you many in the your book

The Quran was/is being stored and protected over centuries in the hearts of muslims, a boy of 9yrs can memorize it from heart and detect your bullshits.


You are going off point already, answer my questions before ranting...

You are repeating the same post each time.

The Holy Quran verses you just qoute ARE NOT contradicting...

Only one line of text will answer your questions.

So tell me, Why the bible behave like that.

RightChannel:



Quran made you to understand that Jesus is the word of God, spirit of God, Messiah isn't it??


Who anoints muhammad as a prophet?? THE WORST PART OF IT IS THAT YOUR PAEDOPHILE PROPHET MUHAMMAD WAS NOT CIRCUMCISED

Jesus Christ has many prophecies, he performed miracles which Quran itself confirmed.. Tell me one miracle of your pedophile prophet Muhammad as recorded in the Quran?


Which revelation Muhammad gotten, have you forgotten that your prophet was tormented by Demons in cave? Do I need to be telling you this

Muhammad was the messenger of allah no doubt about that, even muhammad was superior than allah I think you know? The original and truth prophet of God are not after little girls pusy, muhammad the messenger of allah was a disgrace to humanity as far as child abuse is consign. Just think of it, Muhammad at 53 running after Aisha his great grand daughter who was 6yr of age


Smiles. So you can be an audio Muslim right??


Is allah an audio god you can accept by clicking on an audio stuff? No wonder you're been brainwashed by facing the direction of kaaba before praying with the hope that your allah dwells in kaaba

No sources I see in your write-up, only harted against an enemy you cannot defeat.

Islam is growing every minute, and you already believe what you qoute, so.

I will continue the discussion with you anly if you remove harted and remain civil.

If you do, mention me, otherwise, you are not ready to be answered

RightChannel:


Ask your fellow Muslims e.g. AntiChristian if he didn't rush to Christian's thread to display his ignorant rather to seek for knowledge from the Jews and Christians as directed by the author of your Quran


Quran 16:43

And We did not send (messengers) before you except men whom We revealed to them. So ask people of the reminder (people of the book) if you do not know

Since you fully agree with Quran 16:43, then:

1- You now know Jesus A.S. was sent, He is a man, nothing more, except that He is a messanger

2- You believe Muhammad (s.a.w) was sent.

3- You believe Jesus A.S. took Revelation.

4- You believe Muhammad (s.a.w) took Revelation.

5- You believe Muhammad (s.a.w) was a messenger of Allah.
As Allah (s.w.a) told Him to Ask Jesus or whatever, you believe that.....



Alhamdlillah, you are now a muslim. Fact.


Your oath on entering the thread is now true

RightChannel:


The Question says, Where is Amen written in Quran and NOT hadith. Is Hadith more reliable than Quran? Does the author of Quran recognize hadith? Does the author of Quran ask you to follow another book (e.g. hadith)

Quran and Hadith are the sources of Islam... For the trash I just qoute, pls go back and learn the basics of Islam then come back here and debate with muslims.

With your out of memory brain

*Who told you the quran never instructed muslims to follow the teachings of rasool?

*Which Muslim told you every piece of command must be obtained from the Quran?

*Didn't Rasool gave us instructions

HOLD ON, BIBLE IS FULL OF CONFUSION

Nobody Goes to Heaven Yet? – 2 Kings 2:11 & John 3:13

Two particular verses of the Bible assert conflicting ideas when discussing those who have and have not gone to heaven. This is due to the fact that 2 Kings 2:11 reads, “And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.,” while John 3:13 reads, “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.”

BTW: CLEAR THE CONFLICT ABOVE AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THEN WE CONTINUE. that's after you got basic knowledge of where muslims take their commands....(nursery thing) to

advocatejare:


I’ve shown you how your Quran has been revised, burnt, re revised and edited many times and the one you’re currently reciting was written in 1924 and is not related to the one muhammad supposedly received.

Go and deal with that first, I know it must be hard for you!

What you shown me is pure trash!!!
No single evidence, the Quran was never altered.

See, let me help you and show you the clue!

There are millions islamic books written through centuries, each book will reference part of the quran, or all of it, there is a book written over 1000yrs back, the same verse We have in Quran today, are the ones quoted in those books, no single, I mean single or slight difference in meaning, nor writing, nor commentary, nothing.

Allah has promised to save the Quran from alterations and modifications, and He the exalted, have done so.

We muslims know that you are having sleepless nights just to find a way to attack the Quran, but to no vail.......

This is how your your life will end fighting an enemy you cannot defeat, your grandsons will continue where you stop your rubbish but to no vail.

[b]See, Without any bias, let facts speak for themselves.

The Qur’an says:

“Rather, the Qur'an is distinct verses [preserved] within the breasts of those who have been given knowledge. …” (29:49) (bold mine).

How many people have learned the Qur’an by heart? Millions or billions through history? All Muslims must compulsorily have memorized at least three verses of the Qur’an to pray. Let alone wholly, but at least partially, how many people keep or had kept the Qur’an in their heart? So. is it a fact that this verse tells the truth or do we need figures? Just check the number of Muslims who practice their religion.

Now, what about the preservation of its authenticity? All orientalists and non-Muslims study Islam from documents, rarely in practice and many who have attempted this exercise have converted. How many have studied how the Qur’an is used in the daily life of Muslims?

The verses of the Qur’an are recited in every prayer five times a day. But three times daily they are recited by the one who conducts the prayer in front of the congregation aloud. The rule is that if he deviates or commits an error it is the duty of anyone in or the whole assembly to correct him on the spot. This is called to give “lukma”. Is it an indisputable fact that this practice is some 1500 years old?

In scientific terms, we call such an exercise an empirical test of authenticity. Then, on a yearly basis, the whole Qur’an is recited in front of millions and the same rule applies.

Many claim that the Qur’an has been altered. Of course, such claims are perfectly right and can easily be proved as long as they are based on documents only away from the real practice of the religion. The only problem is that the Qur’an is not kept there [the physical print] but in the hearts and if you want to know the truth about changes, check the hearts of men.

Deliberately, any comparison with other religious books has avoided.
[/b]

The bible is contradicting it's self....

Two verses in Proverbs, though juxtaposed, impart opposing notions. Proverbs 26:4 declares, “Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.” Nevertheless, Proverbs 26:5 declares, “Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.”

Oga say something about the conflict and confusion above....

We move...... Next!!!

Thelife:


So you can send a YouTube video as a prove, the same YouTube video that was sent to you as prove that your useless quran has been altered but you claim to be a Photoshop expert.

So foolish of you, well I will be waiting if you are ready to show prove not a YouTube video make by another fellow head slammer

I am a fool for rejecting vid ??
I am also a fool for providing vid as evidence ??

No, you didn't mean it.

You are fooling your self for posting a vid in the first place.

Next!!!

Btw: If God just forgives all Christians and none of them go to hell, why would any Christian do good when they can sin all they want?

AutoC:


You seems nit to read my comment, you are here blabbing all over the thread...you have said bible is curropt, no single proof from you...You have said Jesus was a Muslim no prove either...

You better belive on second coming of Yeshua, Christ Jesus and accept him as your lord ...as stated in your quoran..If you die as a Muslim today ire going to he'll even Mohamed said it that all Muslim will go to hell..Read Surah 19 vs 70 to 72


'Then We shall pluck forth from every party whichever of them was the most hardened in disdain of the All-merciful; then We shall know very well those most deserving to burn there. Not one of you there is, but he shall go down to it (wariduha); that for thy Lord is a thing decreed, determined'


One more question for you, if you say Quoran has not been edited..I belive you know that Quoram chapter 96 was the first revelation to Mohamed according to your belive...why isn't it not written in chapter 1 why is it in chapter 96?

Q19:71

Guy quran have what we call 'tafseer' thats explanation and commentary.

If you read surah mary:71, you will see that

(There is not one of you but will pass over it.)

What you are talking about is NOT passing through the Hellfire, but a bridge, simpel!!!

As-Sirāt (Arabic: الصراط aṣ-ṣirāṭ) is, according to Islam, the bridge which every human must pass on the Yawm al-Qiyamah ("Day of Resurrection" to enter Paradise. It is not mentioned in the Quran, but is described in hadith.


"The bridge over Hell is like the sharp edge of a sword. The first group to cross it will pass like a flash of lightning. The second group will pass like the wind. The third group will pass like the fastest horse. The fourth group will pass like the fastest cow. Then, the rest will pass while the angels will be saying, `O Allah save them, save them.' '' This narration has supporting narrations similar to it from the Prophet in the Two Sahihs and other collections as well. These narrations have been related by Anas, Abu Sa`id, Abu Hurayrah, Jabir and other Companions, may Allah be pleased with them all. Ahmad also recorded that Umm Mubashshar, the wife of Zayd bin Harithah, said, "The Messenger of Allah was in the house of Hafsah when he said,

(No one who was present at the battles of Badr and Hudaybiyyah (of the Muslims) will enter into the Hellfire.) [/b]Then, Hafsah said, "Doesn't Allah say,

(She reminds the prophet about the verse)
(There is not one of you but will pass over it (Hell) The Messenger of Allah replied by reciting,

He then said:

(Then We shall save those who had Taqwa.) Q19:72....

Further information https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/As-Sir%C4%81t


[b]SECOND:

This your question is so so funny man.

In islam, this is primary 1 topic, every child that attended islamic nursery and primary will know this numberings from ahadith as sahiha, which means it was directly an information from prophet Muhammad S.A.W to believers.

See here for the complete table: it might be complex for a low RAM brain like yours though

https://tanzil.net/docs/revelation_order

(The above site deals with anything regarding to how the quran was revealed)

My question to you:

*If God just forgives all Christians and none of them go to hell, why would any Christian do good when they can sin all they want?

**When was jesus born

***Who is lucifer

****If Jesus Is God, Why Did Jesus Never Say “I am God”?

Next!!!

Thelife:


Ride on troll.

Your quran is not only useless but also a curse on humanity for breeding terrorism

Guess you and your imam are the one altering the book

Well you should first prove to us that the Book is been alter on daily basis then we can talk about if we can extract prove from it or not? Or you don't have any prove for that?

And next time, don't try your attack and evade tactics on me, you are too small for that. TSK

First, see this, more are coming...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX62bRIG-OI

0:09 - Intro
0:22 - Review of a few changes (from prior video, Part 1)
1:05 - #5 - The Missing Adulteress (John
3:53 - #4 - Compassion or Anger? (Mark 1:41)
7:08 - #3 - The Ominous Original Ending (Mark 16:9-20 VS... Matthew 28:1-10, John 20:1-13)
14:19 - #2 - Rapid Fire Round (Matthew 16:2-3; Matthew 27:34; 2Samuel 21:19; Mark 6:3)
19:47 -#1 - Books Removed (Nag Hammadi & Gnostic writings etc)

AutoC:


Since ure basing your conversation on my answer..I'll respond to you as long as you remain civil in your conversation


When, the Quran was modified

Original quoran was written by scribesjnto many books following recitation from Mohamed...the first compilation was done by Abu Bakr

https://www.dailysabah.com/feature/2017/06/02/history-of-the-compilation-of-quran


First modification was done in 700CE and that's
Why I asked you to look up Qira'at

Why, the Quran was modified

It contained many punctuation errors and reading it in was difficult-again vowels and consonants in Arabic had to be introduced

How, the Quran was modified Look up Quoranic Othography

Historian told us this was ordered by Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan, he selected some folks who he referred to as 'knowledgeable' to do it

I
Who, modified the Holy Book ?I have answered you Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan
That was the first one...if u wana debate me let's do it online

What did they modified

Ok, next

advocatejare:

Your sahih bukhari hadith 6:61:510 is what you’re rubbishing like that?

The Hadith reported that the Quran was rewritten into a perfect copies, standardized and the original manuscripts were burnt, yet you’re here displaying ignorance! Wehdone

Go and argue with your hadith


Also, was it graphic design that gave us the wrong year of Muhammad’s death and the years the rashidun caliphates ruled?

Was it graphic design that made us know that Arabic letters did not have diacritical marks in the days of muhammad and when Uthman gave his first standardized Quran and the current day Quran have them?

What ever it is, take that outside.

We have 1000's of websites today build solely to condemned islam, to share wrong info and distract humanity from reality.

What ever you did, will never have effect, and still islam is the fastest growing religion despite your time and life being wasted on your keyboard.

Shame on follower's of modified, altered and outdated book that every body can change, trash as usuall

RightChannel:


So some scholars are more knowledgeable than allah that forgot to include Amen inside the Quran? Thank you for exposing allah


The question is show me where Amen is written in Quran, you're narrating fifth episode of Super story how do you manage to pass your common entrance exams

Islam as a religion is not about following Quran only, our beloved prophet has sayings, deeds and commands which are called 'Hadith'

Know islam and know peace.

But wait, you don't know muslims follow ahadith-rasool,,, If true, I will no longer argue with you until you studied islam as it is

advocatejare:

Who used to tell you those lies abeg?

Muhammad died in 632 AD

Abu Bakr the first Caliph ruled for 2 years during which he started the first compilation and he completed it before he died and kept it.

The second caliph Umar ruled for 10 years from 634-644AD and he was in custody of manuscripts until he died after which Hafsa his daughter kept custody of it.

During the rule of Uthman (who ruled 12years after Muhammad had died) that is more than 12 years after the first Quran was compiled. Uthman ruled for 12years so in between those 12 years while he was ruling, people called his attention to the different ways people were reciting the Quran (which has been the norm even when Muhammad was alive and he didn't think of unifying the Quran into one dialect because Muhammad himself said the Quran was revealed to him in 7 different dialects)


But Uthman decided to unify the Quran into one standardized version when neither Allah nor Muhammad gave him such Instruction when he was alive.

So Uthman sent for the manuscript with Hafsa
"...So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham [b]to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies."... Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510[/b]


So Uthman then ordered his scribes to write the new Quran in the dialect of the Quraysh and when they were done with their editing and standardization they buried the evidence of their alterations by burning the evidence.


"...'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, [color=990000][b]be burnt[/color]..." Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510 [/b]


Hence the Quran sent to all provinces were compiled during the reign of Uthman who started ruling 12 years after Muhammad died and ruled for another 12 Years and the compilation and editing was done within his 12 Years of rule, which was 652 A.D. 20years after Muhammad had died

Also, as at that 652 A.D. there was no diacritical marks in Arabic language, it only came into existence in 8th century and the 9th century, long after Muhammad had died and long after Uthman had given out his own standardized version of the Quran

The arabic skeletal script is without the diacritical marks and vowelization:
Fathah = ah
Dhammah = oo
Kasrah = ii

None of the above dialect marks existed in the time of the prophet or Uthman in 652 AD and the present day Quran has them

That means nobody in the world has the original Quran with the original language without diacritical marks and vowelizations and that means the Quran compiled is not the same as the one Muhammad received

WHERE IS THE QURAN GIVEN TO MUHAMMAD?




If you ask a Muslim to bring a Quran he will bring out one of the 25 versions of the Quran [b]That means all the current Quran you have in the world today are fake because Utman destroyed all the other Qirats and gave you only one Qirat but 300 Years after, ibn mujahid synthesized the new 7 Qirats from nowhere and that's the source of the Quran you're reading today.[/b]After the compilation they burnt other manuscripts of the Quran which was against what Mohammed said, Mohammed said the Quran was revealed to him in 7 different dialects but after Uthman and Zayd were done with their fabrications they burnt all the other Quranic manuscripts including the other dialects of revelation. The instructions to burn the other manuscripts was never given by Muhammad before he died nor by Allah, Zayd and Uthman only acted on their own accounts, and they burnt the evidence to cover up their fabrications and gave the Muslim world the revised edition of the Quran. But the Shia were angry because they knew the Quran had been corrupted. The Muslims continue to read Uthmanic codex of the Quran until 934 AD when ibn mujahid read that Muhammad actually said he received the Quran in 7 different dialects but since Uthman and Zayd had burnt the other dialects up, ibn mujahid then created his own 7 dialects of the Quran which are Nafi; ibn Kathir; ibn 'Amir; Abu Amr; Asim, Hafs; Hamzah; al-Kisai.In 1924 in Cairo Egypt, The Hafs manuscript was edited into the Quran you have today.Hence today's Quran is not the same as the one Mohammed received, it's not the same as the one Uthman and Zayd fabricated, it's a different one entirely. Go and learn my friend


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Zc67FrpWU

Guy I am a Photoshop addict, I can create those graphics.

Don't reference me to a video of 'KAFIR' Uttering rubbish as evidence for your arrogance.

About all the other texts you wrote above, They have no source, as the original sources were alterde in your quote, in Islam we have our history, islam have history, go back to itand learn don't extract anything from 'unknown' sources and post to us,we will not believe you.

You know? Islam have been under plan to be destroyed since b4 the birth of your grandpa, with the kind of bullshit-cookedup stories like yours, but till today the world have not succeed, so you shouldn't.

Thelife:



Who is your bro? Hope all is well.
Show us where Jesus perform those gymnastics exercise that was in that picture, or is that not the way you head slammer pray again

Here come the dummy. That's the reason why you are asked to educate yourself about the useless book you are carrying around, if you know the history of the book you are carrying around you won't be showing your ignorance around.

So funny but shite solat is done 6 times daily guess you are such an illiterate not to know this

Educate? Quran is still the same.

Sir, I have told you BIBLE IS USELESS since the book is following you, not followed.

The book is altered on daily basis.

So how can we extract prove from it?

Thelife:


Your hatred won't allow you to leave Christian alone, well I'm not surprise even your gigolo fake prophet mumuhamed spent his lifetime been obsessed with Jew and Christian

So back to your stupidity, Jesus pray like mumuslim? You must be kidding when did Jesus perform a gymnastic exercise in the name of prayer?

When you head slammer want to disgrace yourself and start hammering on Jesus been God but neglect Jesus been Son of God.


Really, Jesus said " Assalamu alaykum" so Jesus speak Arabic

Jesus did it bro.

Bible is corrupted and altered,

U remove what you don't want and what you want, So everything relating to prayer you guys have removed it from bible, whats next you think

Come, let me tell you something, ablution is done 5 times daily, so as prayer, since time immemorial, and we, our sons will continue our SALAT for decades to come

AutoC:


You just hide under arabic language when ire slammed with truth.... give me prove stop blabing


Explain Surah 9 vs 111 to me

I will explain Q9:111 to you, We will get there, but first:
Baba mister know all:

When, the Quran was modified
Why, the Quran was modified
How, the Quran was modified
Who, modified the Holy Book

Please Mr. Historian, pls tell me:

When, the Quran was modified
Why, the Quran was modified
How, the Quran was modified
Who, modified the Holy Book

Dont go OFF ROAD ....

ANSWER, REAL ANSWER PLS, otherwise

1) @40-50 after you made it, career, work, education, money, you will finally marry a LovePeddler that never loves you initially, thus poisoning you

2) you will get your firstborn @ 50+, when he reaches 20 he will hate you for not bringing him to this world while you can take care of him @35-40.

3) your sons may not enjoy being with you or hanging out, as you are almost expired and busy

4) you will never find true love as teenagers do, you are too late.

5) time will be scarce for you, because a normal and responsible person will build Family, Love, Children, Career and Life all together, while you are waiting to build Love, Family and Children after you build Career.

6) You will die while your children are in need of you

7) You parents will never see their grandchildren because you take the journey to a point out of their time, you disappointed them


WHAT YOU JUST READ ARE THE DISADVANTAGES OF MARRYING LATER INLIFE

RightChannel:


As if you have answered my question,

Where is Amen written in Quran?

Is your allah an audio god one can accept by clicking? Is a question just answer

Some scholars say ameen is the abbreviation of the word Allaahummastajib lana which means "Oh Allah accept our invocation"

or O Allah, respond to, (or answer) what we have said. Other scholars say it is derived from the word Āmana (Arabic: آمن‎) which means So be it


There are many ahadith which state the importance of Ameen. Some say that if our saying Ameen coincides with that of the angels our previous sins get washed away. Also a few hadiths say that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) used to say it after finishing Surah Fatihah and he used to say it loudly.



Saying it is a sunnah. It means you can chose not to do it.

Hadith about Ameen -

Bukhari :: Book 6 :: Volume 60 :: Hadith 2

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Apostle said, “When the Imam says: ‘Ghair-il-Maghdubi ‘Alaihim Walad-Dallin (i.e. not the path of those who earn Your Anger, nor the path of those who went astray (1:7)), then you must say, ‘Ameen’, for if one's utterance of ‘Ameen’ coincides with that of the angels, then his past sins will be forgiven.”



Muslim :: Book 4 : Hadith 828

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) while teaching us (the principles of faith), said: Do not try to go ahead of the Imam, recite takbir when he recites it. and when he says:" Nor of those who err," you should say Amin, bow down when lie bows down, and when he says:" Allah listens to him who praises Him," say:" O Allah, our Lord, to Thee be the praise".



Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 12 :: Hadith 747

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Say Amin" when the Imam says it and if the Amin of any one of you coincides with that of the angels then all his past sins will be forgiven." Ibn Shihab said, "Allah's Apostle used to Say "Amin."



Dawud :: Book 3 : Hadith 938

Narrated AbuZuhayr an-Numayri:

AbuMisbah al-Muqra'i said: We used to sit in the company of AbuZuhayr an-Numayri. He was a companion of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him), and he used to narrate good traditions. Once a man from among us made a supplication. He said: End it with the utterance of Amin, for Amin is like a seal on the book.



AbuZuhayr said: I shall tell you about that. We went out with the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) one night and came upon a man who made supplication with persistence. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) waited to hear him. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: He will have done something which guarantees (Paradise for him) if he puts a seal to it. One of the people asked: What should he use as a seal? He replied: Amin, for if he ends it with Amin, he will do something which guarantees (Paradise for him).

Then the man who questioned the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) came to the man who was supplicating, and said to him: So-and-so, end it with Amin and receive the good news. These are the words of Mahmud.


There are more proofs.

AutoC:


Where is your prove that Quoram is not curropted sir...don't just say it ...give me prove.

And next time, before u come here to talk do ur research, Quoran has been edited overtime go online and read about *I‘jām or nuqat al-I'jam, it was added in later Arabic (possibly around 700 CE) so that letters (mostly consonants, such as these five letters ـبـ ـتـ ـثـ ـنـ ـيـ ; y, n, th, t, b) could be distinguished. *Ḥarakāt or nuqaṭ ali'rab (examples in blue) indicate other vocalizations -- short vowels, nunization, glottal stops, long consonants. Variations among Qira'at mostly involve harakat.


Besides, Qouram contains many errors and contradictions

I'll.mention few for you below,

1. No Creator except
Allah (35:3; 36:81)
CONTRADITIONS -There are several
Creators
(37:125,126; 56:59)


2. Only Allah knows the
hidden things (6:59)
Cintradictiin -Jesus knew the hidden
things (3:49)

I have many of them

This rubbish you just wrote is not making sense.

You are telling me to go and learn arabic language instead of telling me:

When, the Quran was modified
Why, the Quran was modified
How, the Quran was modified
Who, modified the Holy Book

......

For your info, Quran was, and still in the hearts of men and women, memorized, no modifications should be made to it while We muslims didn't detected it.

For over 1000yrs now, no single Huruf was altered.

Disbelievers have tried since your grandpa wasn't born to tell lies like yours without success.

Backup.

About contradictions, you have to spend decades learning arabic before I can argue wit you, arabic is a wide language not for disbelievers to dewel in and translate.

Even before that,the verses you quote are not fulfilling your aim, go and reread the book boy

Muslims didn't rush to Christians thread to criticize them, why are they doing that to us?

Is this what other religions encouraged? Hating others?

Why make a false oath to represent your religion? Is your God a liar?

Pls respect who respected you, stay out of people businesses.

Back to topic: Jazakallah for reminder

gaskiyamagana:

Christianizingly doctored.
Quote more to ridicule yourself and the likes in hatred for spreading of Islam.

He will only spread, see, muslims have this joy of non-muslims 'spreading' the message to those that didn't got the message.

Let me seat and wait for more juicy sayings of our 'beloved prophet' from a kafir.

It well

AutoC:


You said bible is curropt and you still quote thesame bible to validate your point...I don't get it ...did you also quote the fact that he called him father in those verses u mentioned just to prove that he is a son of God??

Bible, the most corrupted, modified book ever.

Meanwhile, the Quran was never altered.

We stand, We move

In saudi, UAE, a ritualist when caught will never make tomorrow, He will be killed instantly.

ISLAM FOR YOU.

With this type of punishment many will be saved, many will leave ritual and start earning legally.

Many innocent souls will live long and see their grandsons.

What of 9ja?

The ritualist will be forgiven, next morning after his release many people will be killed.

In a year, 1000s of people will be killed by a single useless person.

With this, you will know islam is the best system for mankind ever.


Don't tell me what terrorists are doing, they are not among muslims, the are ignorant and out of us. And not following the teachings

Muslims didn't rush to Christians thread to criticize them, why are they doing that to us?

Is this what other religions encouraged? Hating others?

Why make a false oath to represent your religion? Is your God a liar?

Pls respect who respected you, stay out of people businesses.

Back to topic: Jazakallah for the supplication.

G

System202:
where are the hypocrite intolerable Cristians that rant when a girl In kwara was flogged for drinking alcohol and partying with yahoo boys, I am waiting for ur reaction

Shame on them, dey don run from truth

Hold on, may be dey wil b here

If na islamic school did this...

Hmmm...

This thread don get 10000+ hate comments by now

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