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Olu317:
Obviously, it seems you mistook me for another person because, I didn't mention, anywhere, that I have Arabic language's knowledge, though I only cites information as written in Romaniced Orthography of same Arabic. Interestingly I stay within the knowledge I have in Classic Hebrew.

What attention do I seek ? I don't seem to know if I seek attention but I only post online to relay information as seen by me in research work while I expose all about the classic Hebrew that begun its transliteration and translation in English languished, around 1611AD or thereabouts .It is that simple.

So, there is no such thing as "Romanized Orthography of ... Arabic". Such thing just does not exist.

"Big words" do not necessarily make us appear smart or versatile, especially when such words or terms do not even exist or make sense.

Moreover, the Arabic words in question made use of Arabic text.

I think it's hightime we learnt to stay within our limits, or rely on the expert submissions from outside of our limits.

Again, this ties-in to the attention-seeking point I stressed earlier.

Z

Even the Igbos have eventually realized that the Binis are remorseless liars.

Case closed. My efforts eventually payed off. Binis have been exposed!

bright007:
First the writer mentioned that the Lucumies were Yoruba. Pls read that line like twenty times so you can comprehend it.

Then the writer went further to list 3 types of Lucumies.

1) the main Lucumies are from Oyo ( emphasis on main)

2) lucumi bariba

3) Lucumi sabe.

Now the writer say the Lucumies employed in the palace are possibly but necessarily from Oyo. As much as the writer wasn't sure if the Lucumies employed in the palace were from Oyo, he wasn't also sure they were not from Oyo.

In one of the supporting documents you posted, it was specifically stated that the onukumi are a small group of eastern Yoruba people. I dont know why you are trying to separate the lucumi identity from the Yoruba at this point of the argument when you have admitted severally that they were Yorubas.

Is it because you have been enlightened they were slaves in the Oba's palace?

You're only affirming my point, but your bigotry isn't letting you realize that yet.

Sandoval documented to the effect that:

"These "foreign Lucumies" were Yorubas, possibly but necessarily from Oyo, ..."

The author (Thornton) here highlighted this clause because Sandoval himself identified three types of these foreign Lucumies -- i.e. three types of these Yorubas.

The three types of such "foreign Lucumies" are Oyo, Chabe, and Barbas.

But guess what Baribas (at least I know) are not Yorubas ethnically.

However, a few of them sometimes adopted the Yoruba language and they speak it till date.

The clarification of the word "Yorubas" as used in that context thus becomes obvious.

In other word, not necessarily people whose ethnicity is Yoruba -- but people who speak the language whether by adoption or by ethnicity.

So, the mention of "Yorubas" (in that particular context) could refer to any of Oyo, Chabe, or Barbas -- according to Thornton and Sandoval himself.

But guess what! Your source was honest enough to say that we don't know which of these "Yorubas" is being talked about -- i.e. he doesn't know if it was Oyo, Chabe, or Barbas precisely.

bright007:
What's your argument exactly?

The article clearly states that these slaves were Yoruba!
And the uncertainty has to do with " if they were from Oyo".

Pls read.


Pls desist from saying the oba , the chiefs and the soldiers spoke Yoruba as no where in the article did it say the lies you are propagating.

It was the Lucumies that were Yoruba that spoke the language. So there was no language influence whatsoever. Pls use your brain. How can slaves influence their master to the extent the Oba and chiefs changes their language?

Common sense should tell you that the reason the Lucumies were speaking Yoruba was because they didn't understand the language of the Oba and the indigenous people.


I will respond to your last propaganda in due time

Baribas are obviously not Yorubas ethnically. Anyone who have read one relevant book on the subject should know.

In other words, your article's mention of "Yoruba" there is in reference to people who speak Yoruba generally (not necessarily people whose ethnicity is Yoruba.

Its inclusion of the Baribas, for example, gives this away quickly.

And your article clearly expresses its doubt and uncertainty as to whether or not the Yorubas proper (i.e. Yourubas ethnically) were among those slaves.


Once again, free your mind and read carefully below:




Your article obviously made it clear that it was unsure and uncertain if the said Yoruba-speaking slaves were actually Yorubas ethnically, or peopele from a different ethnic group who have only adopted the Yoruba language, e.g. the "Baribas".

Your article admitted this. So, stop pretending.

Moreover, I am still amazed as to how a handful of slaves could have influenced the Benin King, his chiefs, and the whole Kingdom into adopting a foreign language -- Yoruba language.

They even managed the administrative affairs of Benin Kingdom. Lol.

Logically then, the respective events of my article is clearly and obviously different and distinct from the event of your article.

The events of my article shows that Yorubas were administrators in Benin Kingdom, and that Yoruba language became Benin kingdom's lingua-franca.

This is in sharp contrast to the event of your own article which admits that the said Yoruba speakers here are possibly not Yorubas ethnically. And that they were enslaved not employed as administrators. Big difference! Lol.

In sum, both articles speaks to different and distinct events obviously. Open up your mind. Lol.

bright007:
This assertion can only be manufactured by your redundant brain.

Sorry it really hurt to know Yorubas worked as slaves in the Benin kingdom.

I know you cant take it. But pls dont drink sniper.

bright007:


Yes the language was spoken by Yoruba slaves. I hope your ancestors weren't among the spoils of war that served the Benin Oba

(1) Your hypocricy is disgraceful only to your own self.

Your article obviously made it clear that it was unsure and uncertain if the said Yoruba-speaking slaves were actually Yorubas ethnically, or peopele from a different ethnic group who have only adopted the Yoruba language, e.g. the "Baribas".

Your article admitted this. So, stop pretending.

Moreover, I am still amazed as to how a handful of slaves could have influenced the Benin King, his chiefs, and the whole Kingdom into adopting a foreign language -- Yoruba language.

They even managed the administrative affairs of Benin Kingdom.

Logically then, the respective events of my article is clearly and obviously different and distinct from the event of your article.

The events of my article shows that Yorubas were administrators in Benin Kingdom, and that Yoruba language became Benin kingdom's lingua-franca.

This is in sharp contrast to the event of your own article which admits that the said Yoruba speakers here are possibly not Yorubas ethnically. And that they were enslaved not employed as administrators. Big difference! Lol.

In sum, both articles speaks to different and distinct events obviously. Open up your mind. Lol.

(2) See attached for how Ibadan forces sacked and slave-raided territories of your Benin Kingdom.

From R.E. Bradbury himself.

bright007:
Worried? Why should I be worried when your propaganda has been disbanded?


Anyone following this thread should get the full gist now and know where to stand in this debate

Sure, anyone following would have noticed how you wish the evidence I provided didn't exist, and how you wish that I was banned. Lol.

@bright007, this is in reply to your 9:32pm comment.

I'm not sure why you (or the mod who banned me) were worried about my evidence-based contents.