Mraphel:


Ooni of Ife palace refused that claims.....nobody in the South west accept that story of Oduduwa from Benin. Is a foolish story.

Oduduwa great grandson coined the word Bini after Oduduwa long dead.

Mraphel:



I used my source to guess the truth

Mraphel:

How could you say nobody knows? If nobody knows that means anybody can just become a king in Benin.

Yoruba people and Oba of Benin palace knows their history.

My advice for you,


Go and read Oba Coronation speech

Go to Benin palace to be well grounded in the history of Benin.

Go to Ooni of Ife palace to learn about the history of Benin. They have kept it.

Go to Olu of warri they will tell u history

Avoid posting comment since you seems not to know anything in Benin

Mraphel:


I'm not a Yoruba just an intermediary between both of you.
Your first Oba is from Ife. Oba of Benin said it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.legit.ng/amp/832915-controversy-crown-prince-eheneden-erediuwa-tenant-benin-kingdom.html

Ghostwon651:


You seem to be in the business of guessing rather than in the business of reasoning.
These stories are stories, made up, not witnessed.
But you are not smart enough to realize this.
You have an incredible pro-yoruba bias. Indeed while making false logics, your false reasonings are always in favour of the Yoruba.
It actually makes no difference if you were Yoruba or not, all that matters is:
1) you are wrong.
2) You are not reasoning properly
3) you have an extreme pro-yoruba bias
4) ogiamien is a 419 telling unsubstantiated stories which fool only your ilks.

Mraphel:

Your people were conquered by the Yoruba's bro.

Mraphel:


All Edo history have read includes Ogiemen history

Mraphel:
Why is it not Ogiso of Benin. Why Oba of Benin? Kindly tell me

Ghostwon651:
The fact is Yoruba copy other cultures a lot, Benin culture is just one of those cultures copied by the yorubas, although it (Benin culture) is by far the most copied culture by the yorubas.
Look at even the dress which the ooni of ife wears: it is a copy of that of the king of the Ashanti.
The ooni of ife's helmet is a copy of that statue which was dug up in ife. Before the statue was dug up, the ooni of ife was never spotted with that helmet or anything like it.

The Yoruba culture revolves around copying others.
Even amongst themselves they copy a lot.
Tell me how old is the oldest costume of the ooni of ife: I am guessing less than 40 years.
That of the Oba of Benin is several hundred years old.

Look even at how the Yoruba earlier copied the word "sir" into their titles ...

YauYamba:
[s]Even the Igbos have eventually realized that the Binis are remorseless liars.

Case closed. My efforts eventually payed off. Binis have been exposed! [/s]

TAO11:


As requested, please refer to the 1st attachment for the relevant documention of the French father in the year 1640.

The 2nd attachment is from page 209 of Professor R.C.C Law's "Ethnicity and the Slave Trade".

In this article, Professor R.C.C. Law also cites the French Father's 1640 documention of the fact that the Yoruba language was a lingua-franca in Benin Kingdom.

[See the 2nd red highlight of the 2nd attachment for this].

Interestingly, the Spanish Jesuit, Alonso de Sandoval also documents, in the 1600s, that even the palace administration of the whole Kingdom of Benin was via Yoruba language.

[See the 1st red highlight of the 1st attachment for this].

Olu317:
I need this book though preferred if it is on PDF.


Asap inform me if you do have the link.

Edeyoung:




You're just fooling yourself bro

Olu317:
Lol! Well, I don't have such strength to engage you even if you feel bitter about it. I am a writer and information is highly power, especially such as the one TAO11 displayed on Bini,using Yoruba language as a Franca Lingua in the King's palace. . It is only a reminder that Bini is a Yoruba land,which was created from Igodomigodo.

Olu317:
Lol! Well, I don't have such strength to engage you even if you feel bitter about it. I am a writer and information is highly power, especially such as the one TAO11 displayed on Bini,using Yoruba language as a Franca Lingua in the King's palace. . It is only a reminder that Bini is a Yoruba land,which was created from Igodomigodo.

Olu317:
[s]Lol! Well, I don't have such strength to engage you even if you feel bitter about it. I am a writer and information is highly power, especially such as the one TAO11 displayed on Bini,using Yoruba language as a Franca Lingua in the King's palace. . It is only a reminder that Bini is a Yoruba land,which was created from Igodomigodo. [/s]

bright007:


Land grabbers from the west, Ilorin is still in the hands of Fulani. Go grab that first.

After all the evidence here that Yoruba were slaves in ancient Benin kingdom, you are still here propagating falsehood.

It doesn't matter how many of you are here for this propaganda, the truth must prevail

Olu317:
Babe, Obviously you're attention seeker and you got my attention. But inform us on Biniland that was at the mercy of Ogedegbe Agbogun gboro in late 18th century. So, what is it to grab ? .

The Biniland that's not bigger than the whole of Ogun state is where Yoruba wants to grab. A land that does not even have natural resource to tap into . i just wonder what you mean as land grabbers! Trust me, I don't have time fo this kind of matter that's baseless.

Edeyoung:



Start getting your fact right land grabbers edo state is bigger than ogun state you tribal bigot
Edo state is the third biggest state in Southern nigeria and we got oil and gas
In terms of natural resources no joke. no south western state can be in competition with edo...
If we are to select each south west state one one after the other against edo state they wont be a match anywere near Edo.....

We still waiting for TAO11 book

Edeyoung:



We need her post the book here.... For all to see


We have no connection with yorubas rather than
Civilizing them

Olu317:
Babe, Obviously you're attention seeker and you got my attention. But inform us on Biniland that was at the mercy of Ogedegbe Agbogun gboro in late 18th century. So, what is it to grab ? .

The Biniland that's not bigger than the whole of Ogun state is where Yoruba wants to grab. A land that does not even have natural resource to tap into . i just wonder what you mean as land grabbers! Trust me, I don't have time fo this kind of matter that's baseless.

TAO12:


https://www.nairaland.com/5761595/benin-kingdom-edo-state-remained/49#90245051

MetaPhysical:


Yoruba has never claimed to have connection with Edo.

We told you we own you!

Ownership of your land is different from a fraternal link with you.

In other words, Bini belong to Yoruba and Bini is a suzerain over Edo.

Why are you asking for that quotations to be put here? Do you doubt what TAO said?

Do you doubt what RC Law said?


We own you, end of talk!

MetaPhysical:


Yoruba has never claimed to have connection with Edo.

We told you we own you!

Ownership of your land is different from a fraternal link with you.

In other words, Bini belong to Yoruba and Bini is a suzerain over Edo.

Why are you asking for that quotations to be put here? Do you doubt what TAO said?

Do you doubt what RC Law said?


We own you, end of talk!

Edeyoung:


https://www.nairaland.com/5894619/benin-influence-yorubas

Edeyoung:



We civilized you guys and gave you clothes thought you all our worship even sold you as slaves...


You all came to trade with the whitemen at the benin river from your vsrious location were the oba laws fully influenced you......



You're lesving in dreams copy copy tribe

MetaPhysical:


They have witchery!

Edeyoung:



We civilized you guys and gave you clothes thought you all our worship even sold you as slaves...


You all came to trade with the whitemen at the benin river from your vsrious location were the oba laws fully influenced you......



You're lesving in dreams copy copy tribe

TAO12:


Even as at the late-1890s/early-1900s, Binis were still largely roaming the streets st@rk n@ked. European accounts document all these details. See attached. I hope this helps kill your bigotry.

Thanks to the Ijebus who brought you all clothes in unprecedentedly large quantities.

cc: MetaPhysical, Olu317

MetaPhysical:


TAO,
God bless you!

We have not given Ijebu people their dues. There are records crediting Ijebu people as the origin of clothing and weave designs all over bights of benin and biafra. Their designs went as far as Calabar.

Just by studying Ijebu clothing and its distribution on the coast it also touches on the culture of Ogboni shoulder drape and certain patterns and motifs. Which should debunk the claim of gregyboy on Ogboni origin.