₦airaland Forum

Lostz:
I once moved my brother to a different hospital because the hospital want him to be transfuse before commencing treatment...... just little shortage of blood he can recover from.
the one when pain me be say them no do any test before them begin talk about blood.



child birth is not something you need blood for in most cases. most hospital now use it as a means to get blood for sale.

child birth is something you prepare for 9 months ahead so you should be able to know which patiently may likely need blood

I'm sure that didn't happen in a government hospital .

I agree with what you said but things happen and you have to prepare for any outcome hence the need for blood in most cases .

May God help us all

Nigeria is a joke

Chai ...See wetin Iceberg slim enjoyed that year

Lostz:
with this judgement, people who don't want to donate will not be forced.

Nigerian doctors will want to transfuse you for even minor cases. if you want blood pay for it or stop selling it. imagine charging 7k as screening fee for one pint of blood

No doctor in a government hospital would transfuse a patient unless it is necessary .
What do you mean by minor cases ??

Amudeneogu:
Suppose you are the patient, how will you feel? the two parties should resolve their differences because when the two elephants are fighting it the grass suffers the pain. Nigerian doctors are not treating well

The patients and the citizenry should direct their anger to the appropriate quarters .

Doctors have bills to pay . They have numerous dependants too.
And they deserve a good life as well and a good working conditions.
Is that too much to ask for

Lostz:
the mortality rate is low when it comes to child birth. there will be close to zero mortality rate when if Nigerian hospital do their job well

The factors responsible for the high maternal mortality rate in our environment are numerous .
It's not an issue of the hospital doing their job well alone .

That said , not every patient would undergo vaginal delivery .
God forbids a woman ruptures her womb during delivery , how do you cope without blood

What about the ones that need CS either emergency or elective ?? You need blood even though you might end up not using it.

We all should hold our leaders accountable .
Proper health insurance for all is the only way out .

The judgment belongs in the dustbin at least for now

NoToPile:
Have you donated for a relative at a lagos govt hospital or have you given birth there before? They do not ask anybody to pay before donation at any lagos govt hospital, private hospital I dont know.

The screening is not paying the workers carrying out the screening, the screening is the tests run on that pint of blood, so you are paying for the costs of the tests run on that particular pint of blood which makes it certified safe for transfusion.

You are doing well

fkj950ax:
Blood cost 7000 for those that can't donate and want to buy. The hospital should pay donors 2000 from the 7000

Well, I don't know the arrangement in that hospital . I already used UCH as a case study up there .
But at a first glance , the information you have doesn't seem accurate .

What if they could donate , how much does it cost ?

Lastly, there are professional donors and they get paid way way way way more than the 2k you proposed . Lol

Lostz:
the profit they will make from selling blood

Okay sir

Lostz:
people have been given birth safely since the beginning of the world without blood

Lol..
I'm sure you would also agree with me that people have also been dying from childbirth since the beginning of the world .

Having a blood handy is a necessity . You don't know a successful delivery till you are done . You have to prepare .
That's the way medicine is practiced sir .

Lostz:
hospital should pay for willing donors then sell the blood like they normally do

Where would the hospital get the money to pay the donors ?? Nigerians sha

NoToPile:
You pay when you need the blood not at the point of donation.

Whoever is going to use any blood donated by anybody will pay the amount used to screen that blood.

If your relative donates and you end up not needing blood you dont pay anything, someone else who needs it pays.


You really don't expect the state to pay 7k for screening every blood donated do you?

God bless you chief

9jaDoomCountry:
You don't mean it! So the hospital will give you blood today because you need it and ask you to donate it back few weeks after when you have recovered?

You want to tell me people who need blood in private hospitals don't rush to general hospital to buy blood .

You must be one of the people that benefit from this clandestine practice.

Lol..You don't understand .

The practice in UCH and most government hospitals is : If a patient needed blood, Blood would be gotten from the blood bank while the relatives pay for screening of the blood because you want to make sure the blood of the would- be recipient and the donor matches. And you also want to make sure the blood isn't infected i.e hiv/ hepatitis .

What they pay for is not the the blood itself but the screening of the blood . Blood itself is totally free in most public hospitals .
If a patient needed 5 units of blood , he/she pays 7k .
Getting that same units of blood in private facilities would cost the patient nothing less than 50k which is even for the cheapest blood group (because the cost even depends on the blood group ).

And the blood must be replaced . So before these free blood units are released from the blood bank , they must be replaced .
Patients' relatives donate the replacement usually but if for some reasons they couldn't donate , they get someone to do it for them ( the relatives pay this kinda person ).

What the general public need to understand about the structure of a government hospital is that no healthworker ( Doctors , Nurses, pharmacists and Lab scientists) comes in direct contact with your money and as such whatever you pay doesn't benefit him directly .

gaskiyamagana:
Hello, if we donate freely, is it going to be given free or with little charge? I only ask d question I know it is still d same whether you buy or donate. That is d only reason people are care free. You collect freely and you sold it at #10 000!

I don't think any hospital sells blood per se .
The money paid is meant for screening of the blood .

I'm sure SERAP and the judge didn't even understand the concept of blood donation in our public hospitals before passing their judgement.

It's another useless judgement that won't fly at the end of the day

I'm sure the government purchased the jankara injunction.

The doctors should not attend to any patient untill their demands are fully met .

Let the crying governor and his family man the hospital.

Tobrasky:
What nonsense lol, some of you unintelligent mo.rons just relish regurgitating the same old crap tales you probably read from the internet, that's why Nairaland is a citadel of ignorance, poor cognitive reasoning and sheer stupidity... why would Ojukwu be hiding in the East when he had already repatriated all officers and men of Northern origin back to their regions? Every account I've read about the events of the coup and counter coup NEVER mentioned Ojukwu "hiding" anywhere in the East. As a matter of fact, the East remained at the time the only region that had no Northern soldier occupying its region or military installation... why Ojukwu SUCCESSFULLY sent all the Northern soldiers packing from the East, the Western region under Colonel Adeyinka recoursed to shamelessly hiding and kissing Aboki ass in the name of "playing it safe and savvy"... while the Yoruba population were groaning under Northern occupation all over Western region!

2500 words of empty and ignorant rant .
We are talking about the immediate aftermath of the July 1966 counter coup here .
Lol, who told you there was no Northern officer in the Eastern region immediately after the coup ..You are the one with a single digit IQ here .
Get proper books and read . Stop depending on Radio Biafravd .

Even goodygoody, the op didn't argue about Ojukwu being in a police station during the immediate aftermath of that coup .

I know it's shameful thing to do . A soldier hiding in a police station .
Even shame dey catch me for Ojukwu too

Openbusiness:
Oga there's a huge difference in both countries. The infected in Israel were detected before entry and quarantined at entry. But in your Nigeria, the infected has already spread the virus around for 2 days before his case was even IDENTIFIED! The people he has infected are busy going about their lives silently spreading the virus unknowingly because they don’t even know they have it. What is happening in Italy will be a child's play to Nigeria. As it is now, it's as if half the Italian population is already infected. Their government was sleeping on duty, just like our own here.

Not all were detected at point of entry in Isreal . Read up bro

Dedetwo:
Do not pat yourself on the back. Yari.ba peeps precipitated the most killing during the era in discuss. Majors Samuel Daramola and Ibrahim Taiwo readily come to mind.

Answer my question and stop dancing around

Openbusiness:
2% fatality rate, meaning let's say if 7 billion people got infected, like AT THE LEAST, 140m people are sure to die, correct? And FYI, how many countries had MERS or SARS? The coronavirus is already on the 6 habitable continents, and only less than 300 military staff, researchers and government scientists live in Antarctica otherwise the Corona Virus Virus would have reached there too. So a mutated airborne virus whose current strain has no cure and has reached 6 continents within 2 months is a joke to you?

Lol.
7billion is outrageous . That's about the population of the whole world .
Does that even make any sense to you

My aim is to educate the public . Covid 19 is highly infectious but not as fatal as the rest . I want an end to the panic and hysteria .
If information about Covid is not well managed , it could lead to chaos.
Covid19 as at this moment is not a death sentence .

Generally , viral infection are a hard nut to crack . No particular cure for them except vaccination .
Smallpox , measles , chicken pox and even common cold etc

And the spread of covid 19 shouldn't come as a surprise . With advent of globalization , things can easily move across borders nowadays .

Covid outbreak was December 2019 . It's not easy producing cure or vaccines just yet .
Scientists aren't magicians .

Some drugs are already showing good prospects albeit in the test tube.

Bro , Ebola had about 90 to 100% fatality rate at some point remember .

Like previous outbreaks in the past , the human race would win again this time too.
This I believe strongly .

Some of those diseases that gave the World problems in the past now occupy a tiny space in some obscure pages of our medical textbooks.

Covid 19 would go the way of those diseases that have become extinct too.

It's just a matter of time .

gidgiddy:
It is true that Ojukwu was at the Central Police Station in Enugu but he was hardly in hiding, everyone knew where he was and he was still the substansive Governor of the Eastern Region.

Do you know why the Northern Soldiers in Enugu could not do anything? They knew that if they carried out any coup in the East, surrounded by millions of Igbos, none of them would leave the East alive. They were less than a thousand of them.

But in the West, they knew Yorubas would be a walkover. So they just walked in, slaughtered the Military Governor of the Western Region, Lt Col Fajuyi, the marched down to Lagos chased away the highest ranking officer of the Nigerian Army, a Yoruba man who should have been the next head of state, Brigadier Ogundipe.

Can you imagine if Enugu had been capital of Nigeria and Northerners went and killed Ironsi and Ojukwu then brought Gowon to come and rule Nigeria from Enugu, surrounded by millions of Igbos? Do you think this would have been possible? Igbos would have burnt them and Enugu down.

Of the 3 main tribes, the only ones they could do this to are Yorubas

But the fact remains that when the Yoruba nation could not stand up for their most senior officer, Ojukwu stood by him

You are a clown.
Are Yorubas weak for not pouncing on the Igbos for killing Ademulegun, Akintola and Shodeinde ?

I have a reason for asking . I'll get back to answering you as per Yoruba weakness if you can reply my question . Please !!

12Monkeys:
It is not serious and Chinese govt put two provinces with over 600 million in total lock down.

Continue

What has been the fatality rate so far?? I hope you know what that means ?

kiyosaki1:
This epidemic is serious than being down play . One particular moniker on this forum has consistently been down playing it as a flu . I hope he/she contacted the virus.

It's not a flu but it's not worse than a flu judging from the information available so far .

Even the almighty Isreal with all her sophistication could not keep Covid outta her soil .
But a certain Ibo Muslim named Chukwudeen from Mbaise has been cursing the Nigerian government for allowing the Italian entry into Nigeria .

The Isreal authorities are incompetent according to radio Biafravd