lol, your mum is your extended family?

Using your logic , I could ask you why Ghanaians are stu.pid, but then it would be wrong of me to make a generalisation just because I came across one stu.pid one on nairaland.

erm, I think you'll find that the first lady of France is pregnant at the moment. I don't see why this warrants opening a thread anyways. Looks like someone's got way too much time on their hands

I bet the 2 re.tards who commented on this didn't bother to read the article. If you had read it, you would have seen that what he said was a joke, but of course it's a headline about Obasanjo, lets all jump on the band wagon and insult him.

lol, why's this shocking news. Not like it's the first time

probably for the same reason you are attracted to good looking guys

Ngodigha:

Don't be silly lil niggi, a man has done an abominable act and instead of saying no the to the evil act, you are here insulting posters. Go and kiss a unclothed cable, stinking maggot.

lol,  how old are you, 5?  The posters you say I was insulting were not focused on the 'evil act',  they were more interested in attacking yorubas.  How about you stop using playground insults from primary school.  They're unbecoming of a man your age, and I use the term 'man' loosely.

Ngodigha:

Check out how the guy attacked me first. I always respond when attacked.

I attacked people who turned the issue to a tribal war and if you feel I attacked you first thats because you're one of the idiots. I'm not gonna trade insults with you, you're obviously intellectually inferior to me. Go about spewing your hatred if that makes you feel better about your miserable life. You hide behind a computer at home and think you're badass. Don't make me laugh. Joker

Ngodigha:

deal with the sin. It is a very sinful act.

I wasn't disputing that, like other idiots on this thread you probably lack the ability to understand simple sentences. I'm not going to waste my time exchanging words with you.

re.tard!!!

To all you re.tards jumping at any opportunity to attack other tribes, anyone with half a brain would know that the accused person in the above story is definitely not yoruba. It may surprise you idiots to know that non-yorubas also live in the southwestern states. Even if he were yoruba, what has his ethnicity got to do with anything?

GudluckIBB:

He has done well.Obasanjo would have delayed the money and form a committe on  compensation package on it,that will submit report in 3 months time .l hate Obasanjo.May thier souls rest in peace

Looks like someone missed his medication this morning

What has his ethnicity got to do with anything?

Obasanjo and PDP are to blame for global warming too

lol, joker. I would be more worried about my bad spelling if I were you.

Kobojunkie:

You could not read the bolded portion of that post with the voter telling you he/she voted purely on religion Are you sure I am the one with the problem with language here??

I read it and unless you're saying God is from a  particular tribe or that only christians worship God, then your 'exhibit A' is irrelevant. You're yet to convince me that you actually understand English.

superboi:

That not true for most southerners too. Is someone like Pat Utomi not better for the Job than Jonathan? Most southerners voted Goodluck because he is from the south. IMHO if he wins, it is another blown 4  years for Nigeria as a Nation. I hope I am wrong sha!!

First of all, Pat Utomi dropped out of the race weeks ago.  Secondly, I said based on what they 'think'.  And the fact that Pat Utomi is a brilliant economist doesn't necessarily make him good presidential material.  For starters he's obviously not a good politician.

Kobojunkie:

Exhibit A

How exactly does that make what I said earlier not true?, unless you do not understand English

Kobojunkie:

Not true.

Based on what exactly? If you've got an opinion let's hear it

Akainzo:

And along which line did the SW chanting CHANGE in their support for ACN and Ribadu vote, when ACN could not even win a single ward in the entire Lagos! What made them abandon their party? Money, Religion or North/South sentiments?  EVen ACN lost in Tinubu's ward, what does that tell you?

It is hypocrisy to accuse others of the same offence you are guilty of. But unlike the SS and SE, did you see how the North was still voting GEJ despite him being a Southerner & Christian! Compare it to the votes coming out from the SS & SE. It clearly shows that the South is the one that has this Religious/Ethnic mentality.

Those who voted GEJ whether in the North or South did it because they think he's the right man for the job. It's got nothing to do with his state of origin or religion. You people need to stop with your ethnic politics.

EzeUche:

Of course they did. The North has always voted along regional and religious lines ever since Nigeria gained its independence.

No they haven't, unless you're saying Obasanjo is from the north.

Well, when you're talking about someone being overweight and you bring up the issue of obesity its a reasonable assumption to make. Now I really am done, lol It was an interesting discussion though. Take care

What was modified? Also you're also not denying that you said that, so how did i misquote you then

ogugua88:

I'm blaming them because it starts with A before it gets to B. If I act stupidly and my sister follows, she'll get in trouble, but the brunt of the blame is on me and should be. I chose not to divulge too much into that aspect because I thought it was common sense and I didn't want to bring in another argument. I'm very aware that they're psychiatric disorders. It doesn't start that way though. Not necessarily. People aren't born with anorexia or bulimia; they develop. Sometimes it's overexercising. Sometimes it's just skipping meals. Sometimes it's eating 2500 calories a week. I'm aware that BMI is not straight forward, but that's what I go by to measure myself, and it's what I know best in terms of body measurement, hence my frequent references to it. I wouldn't mention something about which I know nothing. There are dumb medical students and physicians too. Reading doesn't necessarily make one smart. I'm not asking anyone to be perfect. You sure do enjoy shoving words into someone's mouth. Looking your best and being perfect are two different things.

I don't watch American stars or pay attention to them actually. I criticize just about every one of them which is probably why I've tuned out of American entertainment, yet I live here. Thanks for assuming incorrectly though. An opinion is simply an opinion. I post on this forum because I know people are reading. I may not be right all the time, but there are 650,000+ registered users and thousands of guests frequenting this website. Not everyone will listen to me and to be honest I don't care. I've said what I've wanted to say. It's up to that person to let it influence them or not. I certainly didn't post with any intent of Omotola losing weight because I said so. I didn't say they won't be accepted into Hollywood. I said it would be much more difficult. Another misquote.

I avoided it to avoid further argument and also because you sounded like you haven't seen some of the people you mentioned in a while. You've confirmed my assumption be conceding she might be overweight and that you aren't sure because you haven't seen movies in a while. Whatever the case may be, you left your names. I left mine. Sure, I disagree with more than Stella Damasus, but I'm done going back and forth on your opinion of what's overweight and mine.

Mo'Nique has been on a quest to lose weight since she was diagnosed with high blood pressure and was told she would live a short life. I know she's lost over 50 pounds. She said so on Oprah a while back. She actually lost some of her obese fans because it seemed like she wasn't embracing her "Big is Ok" motto. And you said people don't follow the bad in celebrities. Mo'Nique is a fantastic role model and is leading good examples.

As for Oprah? She lost a lot of weight. Then she gained it all back. She has hypothyroidism.

Are you done now?

LOL,  Now who's misquoting who?  I said those who pick bad traits from celebrities have bigger problems maybe not in those exact words.  Also maybe it was another Ogugua88 who said Rita Dominic, Omotola and others would never be considered.  or you're proving to be a liar as well. I also believe you were the one who first brought up the issue of obesity, if your memory isn't good all you need to do is look at your previous posts and stop blaming someone;s misquotes.  I also didn't say anything about being smart but you're proving not to be in any case.  Now I'm done.  You're entitiled to your own opinions however silly they maybe, but don't  go about lying about comments you made when they're still up there to be seen.

And how do you know that the Nigerian stars you've been criticizing don't have medical conditions causing the to be overweight. Not everyone chooses to share their medical history with the public you know

Now i'm done, lol Goodnight

ogugua88:

Lol. The same Stella Damasus I see on Teju Babyface's show is not overweight? Unbelievable. Maybe it's been a while since you've seen her. According to BMI, some of the ones you've listed will be considered overweight. People are overweight and won't look like they are. I'm not excluded. I'm tall and look slender but my BMI is like 25.39, which is overweight. It's supposed to be 24.99 or under to be considered healthy.

Media or not, there will always be scrutiny. People have the power to choose and change for the better. Initially you said people don't do things because of celebrities. Now that I've mentioned celebrities and eating orders, you've said they do it because of the media. If celebrities can cave into media pressures, what stops the average human being from caving into celebrity pressures?

It's always in one's hands to choose his/her fate. You didn't like my dress. Am I going to burn it now? No. I'm choosing not to burn my dress. If people and media scrutinize celebrities, they don't have to listen. Are they the only ones who get criticized? People need to take responsibility for once. There are other ways to look better than starving yourself, purging, or using laxatives. I don't blame the media for anything except for going overboard. People have to take responsibility for their actions. That's why I said celebrities should lead by example. The world is watching Omotola and her colleagues, not the monkeys behind the cameras and video recorders.

She was at the Grammys in February. Now she's been seen with Michael Bolton. You don't get second chances to make a first impression. I think it's safe to say that African influence is moving to the west. Genevieve Nnaji was on Oprah, MI and P-Square were both nominated for the BET Awards and attended last year, 2 Face Idibia on The Monique Show, and D'Banj on BET are just some examples to cite. I think now, more than ever, we, Nigerians, should be looking our best. As havesense1 mentioned, she's wearing a plastic toyish-looking watch. I'm not perfect, but seriously, I wouldn't purchase such a watch, let alone where it with a classy outfit AND be pictured with it next to Michael Bolton.

It's about time we stop befriending mediocrity.

I  agree people need to take responsibility for their actions, so why then are you blaming the celebrities for the eating disorders or other things people choose to copy from celebrities.  Eating disorders are a lot more complex than starving yourself and inducing vomiting e.t.c  They're complex psychiatric disorders but you obviously don't know that or act like you don't.  Life isn't all black and white.  Also this BMI you rely so heavily on isn't that straight forward either.  Having  a BMI above 24.99 doesn't necessarily make you  overweight.  If you did your research properly you would probably know that.  I'm a medical student so I know what I'm talking about.    You readily accept you're not perfect yet you want Omotola or other Nollywood stars to be perfect, why? because they're superhuman? 

Talking about her wristwatch, you may not like it, but she probably likes it thats why she's got it on and that's all that matters.  You should live your life to please yourself not others.  If an American 'star' wore that you probably wouldn't be saying anything about them, after all when Kanye West wore those ridiculous glasses a few years ago they became  fashionable.  So your argument is smacks of double standards at best.  If you wouldnt burn your dress just because I dont like it why then do you expect Omotola or other Nollywood stars to lose weight just because in your opinion they wont be accepted into Hollywood as they're overweight.

I also love how you choose to ignore certain aspects of my argument.  Okay maybe Stella Damasus is overweight now, I cant be sure, haven't seen any Nigerian movies in years, but there were over 20 names in my list you picked out one which might be wrong but I'm guessing you still stand by your argument that 'most' Nollywood stars are overweight.

Oh and in case you haven't notice Monique and Oprah are overweight too, they are setting bad examples for their fans to follow, right? give me a break

ogugua88:

Lol. I didn't say Nollywood actors or actresses. I used the word stars, as in celebrities, not the up-and-coming people. Yes, there's a difference. Most of the stars are overweight. I stand by that. Movies and photos are enough proof, unless you can't tell when someone is overweight by looking at them.

You'd be surprised. Eating disorders have always been an issue, but when the eating-disorder cases spiked in Hollywood, they also spiked across the United States (mostly teenagers).

The eating disorders you mention are as a result of the pressure the media places on celebrities and the images the media feed to the public on what the ideal weight is and not as a result of what any celebrity did.  You dont have to be as skinny as Jennifer Anniston or look like Halle Berry to have a healthy weight .  And since you're naming overweight Nollywood 'stars'.  I have a list of my own that are not overweight.  Ramsey Noah, Jim Iyke, Genevieve, Oge Okoye, Mercy Johnson, Kate Henshaw, Joke Silva, Rachel Oniga, Stephanie Okereke, Funke Akindele, Bukky Wright, Sam Loco, Nonso Diobi, Yemi Blaq, Stella Damasus, Tonto Dike, Clarion Chukwura, Bob Manuel, Lilian Bach, Fred Amata, Joseph Benjamin

ogugua88:

The list of names I produced does not equate to most Nollywood stars because I only listed some of them.

Celebrities leading by examples is not rubbish. They are supposed to lead good examples just like the rest of humanity. I'm the eldest in my family, so I try to lead good examples, famous or not. People idolize Omotola as much as the next person. The fact that she is in the public eye makes it that much more important for her to be a role model. I don't need to look up to a celebrity to know what is and isn't good for me, but try telling that to the next person. Not everyone reasons like that, which is why people in the limelight should always try to do the right thing and look their best.

I could also make a list of Nollywood stars who aren't overweight to match whatever list you make and this would leave us nowhere.  My point is you shouldnt go about making comments like that with nothing to back them up.  Yes people look up to celebrities, I'm not disputing that, my point is people don't do things they know are wrong just because celebrities do them, they would still do them regardless.  Anyone who does something just because a celebrity they look up to is doing it has bigger problems to worry about.  I'm done with this argument as we don't seem to be getting anywhere, we'll just have to agree to disagree

ogugua88:

Lol. There is every need to bring obesity into the discussion. I'm not knocking her dress. I'm knocking her protruding belly. It's not only this picture either. Her look at the Grammys was worse than this (outfit included). Nigerians have this very strange disease. When they're not famous or don't have as much money, they look fine. When they become rich and famous, they all gain 50 pounds. Examples? Omotola Jehinde, Rita Dominic, Ini Edo, Nkiru Sylvanus, Emeka Ike, Desmond Elliot, Pat Attah, as well as others. She's not the only one to have had children. I'm not skinny either. If I had a bulge somewhere, I'd cover it up at the least.

"Most" is not a ridiculous statement at all. I'd love to go back home and measure the Nollywood stars we know and love. Olu Jacobs? Overweight. Pete Edochie? Overweight. Patience Ozokwo? Overweight. OMOTOLA? She doesn't look obese, but she certainly is overweight. Am I wrong? If they weren't famous, I wouldn't care. People look up to the celebrities though. They have examples to lead. That's just how the world works. If no one was looking for Halle Berry or Jennifer Aniston, you think they wouldn't indulge in cakes and fried chicken?

I didn't change my picture to show off that dress. I'm talking about putting oneself together and looking presentable amongst celebrities/company. It's not difficult. Nothing to get over. I simply responded to someone.

I still don't see how the names you mention equate to most Nollywood stars.  Another thing you seem to forget is the cultural difference in both countries, while I'm not in anyway condoning being overweight the truth is in some cultures in Nigeria some people see being overweight as a sign of beauty, strange as it may sound.    Some people would even argue that Jennifer Anniston is underweight and that is every bit as bad as being overweight.  Also i'm sick off all the rubbish I keep hearing about celebrities supposed to be leading examples.  It may shock you to know that celebrities are human too and as such they are allowed to have their own flaws.  You don't need to look up to a celebrity to know what is and isn't good for you, those who do are the ones with the problem.  There are people who indulge in cakes and fried chicken and still manage to stay in shape or are even underweight,  there are many factors involved in determining ones weight and size.

ogugua88:

Nowhere in my post did I say Omotola is obese. The comment didn't make sense because you didn't read it properly.

Yes, there are actors in Hollywood bigger than her. So what? Does that make it okay? The ones bigger than her here are shredded by the media, trust me. Nigerian actors and actresses have it very easy. I'm willing to bet that most of the Nollywood stars we've seen in films are overweight according to BMI (body mass index).

Hmkay. Well I've seen this kind of comment a million times. Let me be the first to put my picture in support of my opinion. I usually don't wear dresses or anything of that nature, but I did the evening I met Van Vicker and Koby Maxwell. You only have one chance to make a first impression. She should dress with that thought in mind. Look at my display picture. I'm telling you now that I looked better that night than Omotola did with Michael Bolton. No hiding for my end.

Well, if you weren't referring to her being obese then there was no need to bring up the issue of obesity into this discussion.  Whether obesity is okay or not the truth is we can't have a world where everyone is the right weight and size as much as everyone would love that.  You think some of those obese people you see don't wish they could look as good as your slim hollywood stars?  What's your definition of most, here you go again making ridiculous statements and before you go there, I know what the BMI is and how its calculated.  Yea you look okay in that picture but trust me there is nothing special about that dress to  make a memorable first impression so get over yourself already