Christianity Etc › Re: JW 006 Errors In Translations And Why Many Religions Claiming Christians by Youareforgiven(m): 2:37pm On Sep 11, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: “I have spoken these things to you while I am still with you. But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you. I leave you PEACE; I give you my PEACE. I do not give it to you the way that the world gives it. Do not let your hearts be troubled nor let them shrink out of fear" John 14:25-27
If you disregard his words your calling his name in vain won't save you! Matthew 7:21-23  You can't have His peace, neither do you know His peace, neither can you enjoy it, because you don't believe in Him. You don't believe in His name. What you have is the peace of your GB. |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 006 Errors In Translations And Why Many Religions Claiming Christians by Youareforgiven(m): 2:09pm On Sep 11, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Well Jesus himself made it clear that the only evidence of his presence and Holy Spirit in any religion is PEACE among wordhipers {John 14:26-27} where the Prince of Peace assemble with wordhipers {Matthew 18:20} PEACE should flow, it's when believers are doing all things orderly that the law of the Christ could be evident among them as his WITNESSES but in the case where there is no peace it simply means there is LAWLESSNESS (INIQUITY) therefore such form of worship no matter what you call it is not RECOGNIZED by Christ Jesus! Matthew 7:21-23
May you have PEACE!  Matt 18:20✝ Matthew 18:20 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Quoting scriptures that you don't practice. Do you gather in Jesus Christ name or in Jehovah's name? Peace of a grave yard ✝ Jeremiah 6:14 "They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace." |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 006 Errors In Translations And Why Many Religions Claiming Christians by Youareforgiven(m): 1:06pm On Sep 11, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Well a witness according to the dictionary is someone who is ready to answer for the accused whatever questions is directed to the accused regarding the case at hand the witness must be fully prepared to answer!
Because of this Jesus of Nazareth warned his disciples that since he is Christ the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} they must be peaceable with all people no matter what happens {Luke 6:27-28} they must love their neighbors as themselves {Mark 12:31} and have love among themselves just as he loves them! John 13:34-35
So whenever people are fighting and killing their neighbors {Revelations 6:3-4} there is no justification for the WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace to be part of such killings they must remain neutral! John 17:14-16
Now back to your question:
If any group claims they are WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace yet their members are still fighting and killing their neighbors including their own fellow religionists due to politics or racism. Are they truly WITNESSES of the Prince of Peace?
For your information Isaiah prophesied that the Christ will be called "Emmanuel" {Isaiah 7:14} not Jesus but then why did Jesus' friends agreed that Jesus is the person Isaiah talked about in his prophecy? Well it's because Jesus fulfilled what the scriptures foretold about the Christ when he formed a group of peace loving worshipers in the first century, this little group will go about from house to house until all the nations hear of the counsel from the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} and during the endtime they will gather all peace loving people globally under one umbrella! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
So if you're expecting those fulfilling that prophecy to be called "Jesus' Witnesses" before you believe they're the ones Jesus was talking about then you should think about what could have happened to you if you lived in the first century Jewish community hearing one young carpenter claiming he is the Christ but instead of bearing the name "Emmanuel" he was called "Jesus"
May you have PEACE!  Cocky antichrist... I knew go on a rant talking about unity. Unity of demons and deceivers, united against Christ Jesus and his glory and honor. ✝ Acts 4:12 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." This is what Christ Jesus was talking about when he said, they will be witnesses of Him. There is no other name given among men for salvation not even the name Jehovah/Yahweh/Elohim. Christ Jesus is the only appointed and chosen name in which men can be saved. ✝ Acts 16:31 "And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." This are all examples of what Jesus meant in Acts 1:8. Bearing witness that He is __✝ John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." Paul didn't tell this beautiful soul to believe in Jehovah or believe in Yahweh for them to be saved but believe in Him(Jesus Christ), who is the live giver and sustainer. Paul, Peter, John and James didn't go about telling people about Jehovah or Yahweh, but about Jesus and his sacrifice and his resurrection from the dead. I don't care if the unity and peace among yourselves is flowing like a river... If Christ Jesus is not glorified and exalted in your midst, the unity is a unity and peace of a grave yard. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christ Jesus Our Spiritual And Authentic Mirror. by Youareforgiven(op): 10:46am On Sep 11, 2024 |
How do you see yourself today in Christ Jesus your mirror and reflection? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Unhealthy Focus On The Holy Spirit. by Youareforgiven(op): 10:43am On Sep 11, 2024 |
Your undivided attention should be on Christ Jesus alone and Him alone should you look upon. |
Christianity Etc › Be Ye Perfect by Youareforgiven(op): 10:31am On Sep 11, 2024 |
Be ye perfect ✝ Matthew 5:48
"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."
Jesus was teaching the purest form of the Law here. There is no "at least I try with God". There is no if my good out ways my bad, maybe God will have mercy on me. There is no middle ground in this perfection hunt. It is either you are perfect and be save, or you're not and be damned. Mankind don't have the capacity to be perfect through the Law ✝ James 2:10
"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
The law stipulates that you must be faithful to all rules and regulations, if you fail in one you are guilty of all. No escape route.. Jesus was trying to make them realize how damned and delicate the situation was. At one time Jesus was preaching and telling them the requirements of God, his hearers exclaimed in utter hopelessness, who can be saved? ✝ Matthew 19:25
"When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?"
Jesus heard them and said ✝ Matthew 19:26
"But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."
It is impossible we trying to be saved by the rules and regulations of God. Jesus said it can't be done, if it can be done there will be no need for Him to come in the flesh.
We can only be perfect in Jesus Christ. Our perfection which God seeks can only be possible in Christ Jesus and that is why he puts us all in Christ Jesus. The only thing God now requires of us is to believe in what He has done for us in Christ Jesus. Is that too much to ask? I don't think so. Please don't see yourself as not perfect, but see yourself perfect in Christ Jesus where God has placed you. It is utter ignorance to be seeing yourself as not perfect. You are only helping the Devil fashion your own destruction through your mentality. ✝ Hebrews 10:14
"For by one offering he hath perfected forever them that are sanctified."
Do you see this, He has made perfect forever(not temporary) through the offering of himself. Let your mind rest in the truth that you are now perfect in Him forever. He has qualified you to enter into the presence of God and nothing can change it except for your unbelief. Your unbelief can hinder you from enjoying now your perfection in Christ Jesus.
Shalom! |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 006 Errors In Translations And Why Many Religions Claiming Christians by Youareforgiven(m): 10:21am On Sep 11, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: So Jesus said the Holy Spirit will empower his disciples to become his WITNESSES.
Then what do you understand by the word "WITNESS or WITNESSES"?  Please be my guess... Tell me |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 006 Errors In Translations And Why Many Religions Claiming Christians by Youareforgiven(m): 10:11am On Sep 11, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: According to God's only begotten Son (Jesus) what is the work Holy Spirit will enable people practicing pure worship to do successfully? Act 1:8 ✝ Acts 1:8 "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth." If I may ask, Jesus said they shall be witnesses unto me(Jesus Christ), not witnesses unto Jehovah. Jesus Christ never asked them to be witnesses for Jehovah. So who are guys witnessing for again? |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 006 Errors In Translations And Why Many Religions Claiming Christians by Youareforgiven(m): 10:03am On Sep 11, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: You dodged the important question and start asking another question.
Why not answer the question i asked regarding Jesus' own words about the work of God's Holy Spirit?  ✝ John 16:13 "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come." ✝ John 15:26 "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: " Now is the Holy Spirit an active force or an it, base on His mission description by Jesus Christ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 006 Errors In Translations And Why Many Religions Claiming Christians by Youareforgiven(m): 7:25am On Sep 11, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: According to God's only begotten Son (Jesus) what is the work Holy Spirit will enable people practicing pure worship to do successfully? Act 1:8 You people always refer to the Holy Spirit as it, or active force. Are you sure you are JWs? |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 006 Errors In Translations And Why Many Religions Claiming Christians by Youareforgiven(m): 8:51pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: People like you are promoting ATHEISM unknowingly because if each of you stands as his or her own teacher deceiving yourselves that [b][/b]God's holy spirit [b][/b]is teaching each one separately that's how contradictions is celebrated in the name of denominations whereas the teacher prayed for all his disciples to have the same line of thought! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3
Today you people have over 40,000 different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in the name of one teacher ọmọ that is absurd! 1Corinthians 14:33
So go ahead and practice what you want it's not welcome in the gathering of God's people where we promote orderliness! 1Corinthians 14:40 Are you really sure you wrote this.... In your NWO Bible you people don't recognize the Holy Spirit o. |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 006 Errors In Translations And Why Many Religions Claiming Christians by Youareforgiven(m): 8:28pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Each time a scroll is discovered and each time it becomes necessary to revise the words used is reconsidered with context in mind. So we are always on the move not biased like trying to portray ourselves as perfect. We humbly admit that there is always a room for improvement in whatever we do.
Read the OP and meditate about the article instead of anxious to complain!   |
Christianity Etc › Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Youareforgiven(m): 8:15pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
Courz: Dem get mind to change verses because God and Jesus have no business with them in the first place. They are Satanists masquerading as Christians to Deceive gullible people. If they really had the Fear of God in them, they would never have touched the Bible verses. They have a problem with God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit but Jesus is their main target because they know He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Remove the Link to God or diminish the Link, replace the link and you can Deceive the gullible easily. They are mini antichrist. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Youareforgiven(m): 8:07pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: So his disciples are citizens of this world's kingdom shey? John 17:14
So he will lead the citizen of any nation his disciples will support the killing of their neighbours in another country but what if they have preached and taught citizens of that nations and many have become his disciples there?  You succeeded in diverting this thread from the many errors in your own Bible into your usual cony and slimy deception. Latched unto something slightly related and overstretch it. Mini antichrist for a reason! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Youareforgiven(m): 7:56pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
MightySparrow: I have been saying it on this platform that this people are not honest. Why would you alter scriptures to explain the Bible?
This people don't even have authorities on these languages. I remember one Professor Furuli an authority on Assyrian's History. He was their leading translator of Assyrian language. When his prowess was tested by another Hall goer, he failed.
The man was later dis fellowshipped. This Jehovah witness governing body get mind o. Person write letter give him people, e reach your hand you com rewrite am. This are letters written by majorly by Paul(referring to the New testament). So they are simply telling that Paul didn't know how to pen down his thoughts inspired by the Spirit of God. Make them leave Paul letters and write their own. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Youareforgiven(m): 7:30pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
Courz: Thanks Oteneaaron. There has been this urge to create this thread for a long time. The urge doesn't go away so I had to do It. At least, for the sake of PIMO JWS that are questioning and the public that have always been right about the JW Bible. This thread is to let them know that they were right.
As for the bolded, you've summed it up perfectly. Every Cult has its own Translation or books they regard as their Bible. That Mormon bible is horrible. Full of imaginations. JW and Mormons are competing for the worst imaginations ever. You did a great work here. Those who wants to be delivered will be delivered through this thread but those who wants to be damned in JWs will be damned. Those ones even if they catches the "Governing fraudster" red handed they will not be moved. The demon deceiving them is active. You can't call yourself a Christian and deny the deity of Jesus Christ. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Youareforgiven(m): 5:44pm On Sep 10, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Whatever you don't understand just try to be calm and ask those involved they will surely help you instead going about with half knowledge thinking you've known it all. The above is just a tip of the iceberg proving to you that you were hasty in your decision about God's people. Jesus told us that God's Holy Spirit will reveal other things that weren't written in the former scriptures to us {John 16:12-13} so if Moses didn't record that Noah preached Peter who is a born again Christian was inspired to write that Noah actually preached during his time! 2Peter 2:5 So you left all the antichrist post we people have made and latched unto the one that seems the OP made an error. Antichrist doings |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Voice Within. by Youareforgiven(op): 4:46pm On Sep 08, 2024 |
What are saying within you today? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Unhealthy Focus On The Holy Spirit. by Youareforgiven(op): 4:38pm On Sep 08, 2024 |
Jesus is your focus.... God has ordained it to be so |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christ Jesus Our Spiritual And Authentic Mirror. by Youareforgiven(op): 4:37pm On Sep 08, 2024 |
Are you seeing yourself in Christ Jesus today? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Signs a Christian is Attending Dead Or Dying Churches by Youareforgiven(m): 4:23pm On Sep 08, 2024 |
cutecommend: Almost every Sunday, people go to church to worship God. Many go prepared and properly dressed. In some of these churches, there are exciting and nice activities that keep members excited, but even with the excitements, God is not really there.
As you keep attending church, remember that you are responsible for your soul, and you need to make the right decision on the kind of church you are going to so that you may not damn your soul.
Signs You are Attending a Dead or Dying Church.
(1) If true Holiness Message and solid doctrine is irritating, boring and unexciting to its members. But dancing, jumping, comedy, shouting wooo etc are more preferred to sound doctrine.
(2) If seductive and indecent dressing is highly tolerated, and some of the guys in church department plait hair.
(3) If members are ashamed to hold bible (physical bible) on the road while going to church.
(4) If comedians are coming to the pulpit to jest and tell lies to make people laugh.
(5) If such church makes you live comfortably in sin, while using grace message to make you feel alright even in sin.
(6) If prayers for repentance, consecration, fruits of the spirit, sanctification, purification, character development is put aside, while prayers for vision, prosperity, impact, taking territories, getting visa, going to the next levels, goals, purpose etc is emphasized more.
(7) If such church makes you have no thought or little awareness of the coming of Christ. The only sign you are attending a dead church is Christ and him crucified not being in the center of every discussion. Not telling people how Holy and righteous they are in Christ Jesus. Not telling them how accepted they are in the beloved. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Part 3: JW PIMO Reconsiders Trinity Doctrine by Youareforgiven(m): 2:59pm On Sep 08, 2024 |
Sand2022: Of course this will be ours in the future, but do we conclude that we will all be worshiped as God is in the future? Why do we want receive worship in first place? Worship is exclusively for our Father who love us and begot us in Christ Jesus. But not receiving worship doesn't in anyway make us different from our beloveth Father. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Let Your Women Keep Silence In The Churches: Was Paul Wrong? by Youareforgiven(m): 8:28am On Sep 08, 2024 |
ocnovakmichael: This is one area where the Spirit of the Lord wants us to settle in the body of Christ.
1 Corinthians 14:34-35 34. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
On 11th April 2023, I was in a bus and the Lord told me to open my Bible and read. I said, Lord I am in a bus. I am surrounded by people: they will look at me like I’m sort of crazy. You know, sitting in a bus with tech guys, some on their laptops writing computer codes, some drafting mails, and some analyzing data. And you bring a Bible to read: if that is not odd I wander what is. The Lord said to me, open your Bible and read; meditate on 1 Corinthians 14. When the Lord said that I said I will. You see, when the Lord told you to do a thing, he does not give you full details about what he told you, because if he does, you will be acting and walking by sight and not by faith. For instance, when the angel of the Lord instructed Philip to go toward the South unto the road from Jerusalem to Gaza, he did not tell Philip the reason. But when Philip went as was instructed, the Spirit of the Lord said to him: go near and join thyself to this chariot. Philip walked by faith Now prior to when the Lord spoke, I was listening to an audio book I had written; so, I turned it off and opened the Bible app on my android device and began meditating on 1 Corinthians 14. I read all the familiar verses of tongues and prophecy, but when I got to verse thirty-four, the word of the Lord came to me saying, I want to teach you about the role of women in the church. It was so audible I had to look around if other passengers beside me heard it. For close to twenty-some-odd minutes I was staring at 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. My eyes were so glued to both verses that I began having revelation. The Spirit of the Lord asked me, did you notice the last phrase in verse thirty-four? Up till this time, I had read that portion of scripture several times but did not see what the Spirit of the Lord was showing me. And many a time that is the case for many of us Christians. We read a particular portion of scripture loosely by glancing through it until the Spirit of the Lord arrest our attention to reveal the deep meaning unto us. Now notice the last phrase in verse thirty-four of that text, “… But they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.” [/i]The phrase did not say God commanded the women to be under obedience and keep silence in the church, rather the text says the law commanded. You see, it was God who gave Moses the commandments, but some of the laws were set and written by Moses because of the stubbornness of the children of Israel. For instance, at one time the Pharisees, to lure Jesus whether he would fault the law of Moses, asked him the question: “Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?” The book of Deuteronomy is one of the five books of the law, called the Pentateuch, written by Moses. In chapter twenty-four, the first verse, Moses commanded a man to write a bill of divorcement and hand it over to his wife if he finds that she is sexually unclean. When we vet Jesus’ answer to the question those Pharisees posed to him, we see that it was Moses who gave that law and not God. The Lord stressed the reason Moses gave the children of Israel that law. Now let us look at the answer Jesus gave to the Pharisees: Matthew 19:7-9 7. They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 8. He (Jesus) saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so 9. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. Did you notice the last clause in verse eight? Jesus said, “…But from the beginning it was not so.” Meaning this was not in God’s plan from the beginning.
Now let us go back and see why Paul commanded women to keep silence in churches. 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 34. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law 35. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36. What? came the Word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
Notice in verse thirty-six, Paul was quoting the book of Numbers chapters twelve, the second verse. Scripture says, Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses for Marrying an Ethiopian woman and in verse two they said: ““…Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses?” hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it.” Miriam’s confrontation at Moses was a challenge to God’s authority on Moses. You see, both Aaron and Miriam appear to have a reasonable complaint against Moses because he was going against the very law he set for the people by marrying a foreign woman. But instead of bringing the matter to the council of elders they both decided to take up the matter against Moses. Miriam being a prophet, put herself in Moses’ place as the leader and attempted to trump and topple his authority. And the anger of the LORD immediately fell on her and she became leprous, white as snow.
As Miriam contended against Moses’ leadership, so the women at Corinth contended against the leadership of the church at the time. As a matter of fact, it was one of the leaders by name Chloe, a woman, who reported this division and/or contention to Paul. The contention was so steep that it caused a split in the church’s organization. Some of the women said they’re of Paul, some of Apollos, some of Cephas, while some said they’re of Christ. 1 Corinthians 1:11-12 11. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. 12. Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
So, to avoid a repeat of what happened between Moses and Miriam, where the wrought of God came upon a woman for speaking against God’s elect, Paul commanded, according to Moses’ law, that the women keep silence in the church. However, scripture says that the law, which includes among other things that women should keep silence in churches, was given by Moses, but grace, for women to witness and speak in churches, and truth came by Jesus Christ. John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Paul was looking at the church in Corinth through the law of Moses because the saints at Corinth were spiritual babes. And as such, are prone to mistakes and tend to go into excesses: so, he commanded that the women keep silence in the church. Let me say it again, Paul gave that command because the women at Corinth were spiritual babes; and might repeat Miriam’s action: speaking against authority. 1 Corinthians 3:1 1. And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. 3. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
Notice the words envying, strife, and divisions. These are emotional states and typical of baby Christians. Moreover, there is a striking similarity between spiritual growth and physical growth. In physical growth babies are innocent, ignorant, irritable, unsteady, curious, talkative. These were the same reasons Miriam decided to challenge Moses’ authority. For she said to Moses: [i]“What? came the Word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?” Put somewhat differently, if you think you are a prophet, I am a prophetess too. If you think you can hear from God, I can hear from God too. So, to curb babyhood tendencies and a repeat of Miriam’s action in the church at Corinth, Paul instructed that the women keep silence in church. But from the beginning it was not so: for in the garden of Eden, even Eve gets to speak when asked. And God spoke through the prophet Joel, saying, “upon the handmaids will I pour out my spirit and they shall prophesy.”
Jesus is Lord Do you even know why Moses married an Ethiopian woman? It was God who put these thoughts in his heart to for an Ethiopian woman. Moses was a like a forerunner to Jesus Christ our redeemer. It was a sign that the new covenant was not only for Jews but for world as well. The Ethiopian woman represents the "gentiles" in this regard. It was a sign that Jesus Christ is not only married to the Jews, but to the whole world. It is a sign that salvation is not only for the Jews but for all. You are so right. Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but the Spirit of God. Women are very important in Christ Jesus. Women are equal stake holders in Christ Jesus. God has called us all in Christ Jesus. |
Christianity Etc › Re: There is no everlasting punishment and torment for unbelievers by Youareforgiven(op): 7:23am On Sep 08, 2024 |
StillDtruth: Don't be silly! They are first prophecies and Edom's own has happened while Revelations own is already happening as we see, so, you've got nothing. I agree Revelation own is happening, but Revelation own is absolute destruction of the wicked who reject the Lamb of God set before them as their redemption. |
Christianity Etc › Re: There is no everlasting punishment and torment for unbelievers by Youareforgiven(op): 7:32pm On Sep 07, 2024 |
[quote author=StillDtruth post=131899631]Can you not tell an idiom when you see one?[/quote
😁😁😁😁 Oh this one is idiom, but revelation own is not. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Part 3: JW PIMO Reconsiders Trinity Doctrine by Youareforgiven(m): 6:31pm On Sep 07, 2024 |
Sand2022: I would say so. No one can be exact facsimile of Jehovah. Jehovah's nature is uncreated.
The Angels have God's spirit, but they have created nature.
I would not think that an uncreated nature can be passed on. Nor will I see how we will be omniscient, immutable and know the heart as God does. ✝ 1 John 4:17 "Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world." KJV Bible As He is so are we... No difference whatsoever. The Angels don't have the Holy name. They are spiritual creations of God but do not possess the very essence of God which is his Spirit. We will be all this and more in our transformed state when Christ Jesus our Vine appears. Even now we can know the hearts of men through the Holy Spirit in us. ✝ John 16:13 "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come." KJV Bible ✝ 1 Corinthians 2:16 "For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ." KJV Bible We have the mind of God in Christ Jesus. We think the thought of God our Father. What He knows, we are able to know. You don't even know what is in store for those who are in Christ Jesus. It is glorious and mind blowing!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: There is no everlasting punishment and torment for unbelievers by Youareforgiven(op): 6:09pm On Sep 07, 2024 |
StillDtruth: Did you not see this is what happened to Isreal? And do you not see that Edom is gone forever?
As you can see everyone is telling you that you are just deceiving yourself Is Edom still burning till today? Is the smoking still rising up? I agree that Edom is gone forever but the bone of contention is that place still burning? |
Christianity Etc › Re: See Una Useless Jesus Of Many Versions Here by Youareforgiven(m): 2:56pm On Sep 07, 2024 |
EnemyofGod3: See una useless Jesus of many versions here Idiot that couldn't save himself and died at 33 is promising you eternal life after death and long life here, eti ya werey.
Pastors in the house come let's discuss theoretical school of thought, theology and pragmatic Spirituality. Let me teach you how plageriasm can never be Originality. You guys can't be teaching nonsense and dragging our people back to darkness when the universe is raising people like us to bring them into light out of your shitholes. This is blasphemy against my precious Savior but nevertheless, I will address your misconception... ✝ John 10:18 "No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father." KJV Bible My God and Savior Jesus Christ layed down His life and became helpless for my sake and for yours as well. If Jesus wanted to save himself, just a word, the world would have come to an end. ✝ John 18:6 "As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground." KJV Bible |
Christianity Etc › Re: There is no everlasting punishment and torment for unbelievers by Youareforgiven(op): 2:03pm On Sep 07, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Well Jesus was CRYING to Jehovah to SAVE him! Hebrews 5:7
So who was he crying to or begging to SAVE him? He was crying to his Father... God the Son was crying to his Father. ✝ Hebrews 5:8 "Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;" KJV Bible Do you have a problem with God having a Son? Do you have any problem with your Creator having a Son? Huh |
Christianity Etc › Re: There is no everlasting punishment and torment for unbelievers by Youareforgiven(op): 9:14am On Sep 07, 2024 |
obonujoker: Whatever you choose to believe... Just make sure you are saved.
You don't want to open your eyes in regret.
Remember man has eternal soul which God breathe into the flesh.
Don't joke with this
God is love, but also a consuming fire The soul is not eternal✝ Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." KJV Bible The soul can be destroyed by God. Only God is eternal and those whom He has begotten in Christ Jesus. |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 007 Is Jesus Correct Saying John The Baptist Is Elijah by Youareforgiven(m): 8:56am On Sep 07, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Of course Jesus is Lord but he is not the LORD whom he came to REPRESENT! Psalms 110:1
However you didn't answer the question asked!  This Lord is said to be coming to His temple. He is the owner of the temple. If this Lord is not Yahweh or Jehovah then Jehovah has a rival. But it is Jehovah as you people call him. Jehovah Lord God is One, but yet Three. Except you will deny that this temple is not the temple that Solomon built for Yahweh. |
Christianity Etc › Re: There is no everlasting punishment and torment for unbelievers by Youareforgiven(op): 8:40am On Sep 07, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Jesus came to represent the Almighty God that is why God said He is the one coming. When God said He is going to Egypt to deliver the Israelites who did Pharaoh and the people see? Was it God Almighty? NO! It was Moses who stood before Pharaoh as GOD while Aaron stood as his prophet {Exodus 7:1} would you say Moses is Jehovah since he represented Jehovah?
Again Moses told the Israelites that God will send another prophet like Moses to the Israelites {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} apostle Peter confirmed that Jesus is that prophet who came in the manner of Moses {Act 3:22-26} just as Moses served as GOD in his time {Exodus 7:1} Jesus of Nazareth also served as GOD in his time! John 1:1
God Almighty has never referred to Himself as servant because He was never sent on any errand unlike Jesus who was sent by someone GREATER than him! John 3:16; 14:28 ✝ Malachi 3:1 "Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts." KJV Bible And the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to HIS TEMPLE. My sincere question to you is who owns the temple built in Jerusalem? Is it Yahweh or Jehovah how you people choose to call Him? Jesus Christ whom you have just confirmed that is Lord is saying the temple you people built for your Yahweh is mine. This Lord who is coming is saying I own this temple that your father's worshipped in. I am the God of this temple. You really don't know God. God can be whatever he wants to be. He proved that by coming in the flesh in Jesus Christ. |