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The voice inside
✝ Matthew 9:21

"For she said within herself, If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole."

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The most important voice is the voice within. The voice within supersedes the voice outside. Faith is the voice within. We believe through the voice within. What you always say within is what you believe. Forget about what your outer lips say. The real voice is the voice within and that is where God is focusing. So many of us are not coordinated within. We say different things at the same time within us. While some of us are just careless and ignorant with what goes on within. This woman right here is the simplicity of Faith. She continually says to herself within, "if I could touch the helm of his garment, I know I will be healed." Indeed she did got her healing because she believed with the voice within.

Satan wants you to be confused and disconnected within, only then will he steal from you what belongs to you in God in Christ Jesus. What you say within is what truly matters. God looks at your within voice, and not what comes out of your physical lips. You communicate with man with your lips, while you communicate with God with the voice within. This beautiful woman in our opening verse extracted the power of God out of Jesus through the voice within. So many people have been touching Jesus without anything happening. So many have been touching Him with an uncoordinated voice within but when this woman came along and touch the glorious One with a coordinated voice, something happened. She was healed and made whole. Today and right now, you can still touch Jesus by saying to yourself within continuously that, "you are forgiven in Christ Jesus and made right with God."

We all have the voice within. Some have mastered the art to use it and harness it for good, while some for evil. Many of us have allowed earthly things and worldly music to corrode and distort the voice within. Do you want to see great power and might? Then channel and control the voice within towards Jesus Christ and His sacrifice. We believe through the voice within. ✝ Proverbs 4:23

"Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life."

KJV Bible... Guide your voice within jealously. Do not let the things around control the voice within. Be conscious of what you are saying within you, for it can save you or ruin you.

This revelation will not be complete, if I fail to tell you the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. This is the very foundation of our reconciliation with God our source.
"In Christ Jesus you are forgiven and made right with God." This is it. Nothing more nothing less.

Continuously say within you this profound and life transforming truth and watch what will happen.

Kobojunkie:
You can never know the Spirit of the God of Israel if you are not born of the blood of Israel Himself. This much is what is made abundantly clear in that book even though over 2 billion of you(including the over 1 billion Muslims by the way) reject it all because the truth is inconvenient... it does not tally with the delusions you all would rather cling to.

Your confusion is indeed legendary. Denying every thing should to you about the love of God for the world and not just for Isreal.

Geovanni412:
Prove me wrong but most of the people speaking in tongues are talking gibberish

Next time you go to church, record what the man speaking in tongues is saying and ask him to pronounce it or spell it

THEY CAN'T

And if you listen closely, and do a Google search or AI search based on what they're saying, you'll get no results like the pictures below.

Praying in tongues as it is today is demonic. I don't care who engages in it. They are speaking rubbish boldly in ignorance. Though I have someone I learn from in the faith engaging in it.

You need the Spirit of God in you

Believing is accepting, do not be confused.

Your desire to sin will wane and disappear when you receive the Holy Spirit through believing in Jesus Christ.

Youareforgiven:
Come and drink 🍷🍷🍷 the living water with out money.

Taking the living water without pay

Youareforgiven:
The power of knowing you are loved:
Do you know why Apostle John received more revelation more than others? Because he is always conscious of Jesus love.

We are so focused on loving God, we forgot the live changing truth that He loves us. Do you know why John was special? He saw the revelation of Jesus Christ love to him and he never let go of that staggering truth. God loves us all equally, but we don't all receive His love equally. We are always hiding from His love and affection. Be drenched by His great love by being conscious of His love towards you like John the beloved. John knows the secret of enjoying the love of God and thank God I know too. John never addressed himself without attaching, "the one who Jesus loves."

John was so selfish with the love of God as it should be. Whenever John talks about himself he will always remind everyone that he is the one Jesus loves. Being conscious of Jesus love for you is plunging oneself into the endless pit of His love. John was so full of God that boiling oil couldn't kill him... What a life that John lived! ✝ John 13:25

"He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?"

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✝ John 19:26

"When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!"

KJV Bible✝ John 20:2

"Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulcher, and we know not where they have laid him."

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✝ John 21:7

"Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he girt his fisher's coat unto him, (for he was naked,) and did cast himself into the sea."

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✝ John 21:20

"Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?"

KJV Bible. Five good times John referred to himself as the one Jesus loves, as if He is the only one Jesus actually loves. I am sure the rest disciples would've grumbled at him for being so expressive of Jesus love.

Do you want to see manifestation of God in your life? Then like John be conscious of Jesus love for you. Say to yourself always, I am the one that Jesus loves. I am His favorite. I am the apple of His eyes.✝ Jeremiah 31:3

"The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee."

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It is an everlasting love... The love that has no end in sight. Oh, what a love! This love drove Him into the womb of His creature and He was born a helpless baby. He stayed under the care of His creation(Joseph and Mary).

This love also drove Him to the cross, tortured by those He is greater than. Molested and mocked by mere men whose life are like vapor. A God worship by mighty and ferocious angels, but put to death by mortals. He was blinded by His love for us. He went the extra mile. He did the unthinkable. Even the angels was surprised and shocked seeing their God in human flesh and going through all that He went through. What a love!!! Oh what a love!!! Oh what a love!!!

This sermon will not be complete if I didn't tell you this. This is the foundation of the gospel of God unto salvation. You can't really enjoy this love without your sins being cleansed. Thankfully, your sins have been washed away in Christ Jesus all you have to do is believe.

"your sins are forgiven in Christ Jesus and you are made right with God now and forever."
Believe.
Believe.
Believe with all your heart and mind. God bless.

God is love

The power of knowing you are loved:
Do you know why Apostle John received more revelation more than others? Because he is always conscious of Jesus love.

We are so focused on loving God, we forgot the live changing truth that He loves us. Do you know why John was special? He saw the revelation of Jesus Christ love to him and he never let go of that staggering truth. God loves us all equally, but we don't all receive His love equally. We are always hiding from His love and affection. Be drenched by His great love by being conscious of His love towards you like John the beloved. John knows the secret of enjoying the love of God and thank God I know too. John never addressed himself without attaching, "the one who Jesus loves."

John was so selfish with the love of God as it should be. Whenever John talks about himself he will always remind everyone that he is the one Jesus loves. Being conscious of Jesus love for you is plunging oneself into the endless pit of His love. John was so full of God that boiling oil couldn't kill him... What a life that John lived! ✝ John 13:25

"He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?"

KJV Bible
✝ John 19:26

"When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!"

KJV Bible✝ John 20:2

"Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulcher, and we know not where they have laid him."

KJV Bible
✝ John 21:7

"Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he girt his fisher's coat unto him, (for he was naked,) and did cast himself into the sea."

KJV Bible
✝ John 21:20

"Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?"

KJV Bible. Five good times John referred to himself as the one Jesus loves, as if He is the only one Jesus actually loves. I am sure the rest disciples would've grumbled at him for being so expressive of Jesus love.

Do you want to see manifestation of God in your life? Then like John be conscious of Jesus love for you. Say to yourself always, I am the one that Jesus loves. I am His favorite. I am the apple of His eyes.✝ Jeremiah 31:3

"The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee."

KJV Bible

It is an everlasting love... The love that has no end in sight. Oh, what a love! This love drove Him into the womb of His creature and He was born a helpless baby. He stayed under the care of His creation(Joseph and Mary).

This love also drove Him to the cross, tortured by those He is greater than. Molested and mocked by mere men whose life are like vapor. A God worship by mighty and ferocious angels, but put to death by mortals. He was blinded by His love for us. He went the extra mile. He did the unthinkable. Even the angels was surprised and shocked seeing their God in human flesh and going through all that He went through. What a love!!! Oh what a love!!! Oh what a love!!!

This sermon will not be complete if I didn't tell you this. This is the foundation of the gospel of God unto salvation. You can't really enjoy this love without your sins being cleansed. Thankfully, your sins have been washed away in Christ Jesus all you have to do is believe.

"your sins are forgiven in Christ Jesus and you are made right with God now and forever."
Believe.
Believe.
Believe with all your heart and mind. God bless.

Kobojunkie:
You are simply parroting lies fed to you by your men-of-gods scammers, do you realize that?

Jesus Christ clearly defined the world to which He was sent in His teachings. In John 3 below, He narrowed it down to the same world that God caused Moses to lift the snake in the desert to — the world comprised of the condemned of Israel. (Yes, condemned by the God of Israel to die.)
Indeed, God loved the world which He cursed, the condemned of Israel.
In Matthew 20 vs 21 - 28, Jesus Christ further informed all those listening that His Father sent Him only to the Lost Sheep of Israel. The same Jesus Christ is recorded to have warned His followers against giving that which is Holy to the dogs — the non-Israelites.
By a simple process of elimination, we have that the world that Jesus Christ sent His followers into is that which is comprised only of those who are of the blood of Israel and every one of them(including the non-Jewish tribes of Israel)— the Lost sheep of Israel— is to be preached to - Mark 16 vs 15.

So, where exactly does this idea you lot have of those Jesus Christ referred to as dogs(non-Israelites whom you mistakenly assume are called gentiles in Scripture) come from?

✝ Genesis 22:18

"And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice."

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All the nations of the earth is Isreal
😁😁😁😁✝ John 3:16

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

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Isreal is still the world here.
✝ John 1:29

"The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world."

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Isreal is also the world here. 😁😁😁... I can see you are trolling

Kobojunkie:
Stop with the lame attempts at hiding your ignorance and blatant rejection of Jesus Christ behind the posting of random verses — verses conveniently lifted out of context by the way. Let's go back to the beginning abeg cause all of this makes no sense if you do not even accept Jesus Christ. Accepting Jesus Christ means acquiescing to all He declared; acknowledging it all as truth, facts that apply even to this day!

1. The same Jesus Christ whose mission you claim to know made it abundantly clear that He was sent by His Father only to the Lost sheep of Israel - Matthew 20 vs 15 - 21. The same Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear that the world He was sent to by His Father is the same world that His Father caused Moses to raise the Bronze Snake to in the desert, the world that comprised of the condemned of the Israelites - John 3 vs 14 - 18. The same Jesus Christ is written to have warned His followers against giving that which is Holy — the Kingdom of God and the Law which God gave by Him — to the dogs(non-Israelites) warning that they would tear it apart and hurt them afterward - Matthew 7 vs 6 .

Jeremiah in Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34 wrote that God's New Law would be given by God to the House of Jacob, a truth affirmed by Jesus Christ throughout His Gospel which He also declared was everlasting —UNCHANGING. There is no record of Jesus Christ welcoming non-Israelites into the nation and agreement that is the Kingdom of God. This makes sense as such an idea would have set Jesus Christ against His Father whose will Jesus Christ made clear He submits only to.

So, back to my original question to you. Do you equally believe that aspect of Scripture and the Gospel you quote from, or do you merely think you can ignore that aspect of what is written as is the fashion of the religious?

How again should I tell you that Jesus said all that because the time of gentiles has not yet come. Same Jesus said this when the time was right ✝ Mark 16:15

"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature."

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Go ye into the world, not preach to Israelite only.

Kobojunkie:
1. The same Jesus Christ taught His disciples that which could cause them to sin. According to Him, it was instead the filthy things stored up in your arm that caused one to sin - Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20 & Mark 7 vs 13 - 26 . That, according to Jesus Christ, is the only thing that can cause one to sin. Knowing this sheds better light on what Jesus Christ said in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 31, right?

2. I am afraid this is wrong thinking on your part! The Israelites never did water down the Law of Moses. Rather, they taught ideas different from the Law of Moses which remains in tact even to this day. They established religion — after what they learned from their time in Babylon(the Jews did)—and made attempts at usurping God's Law by teaching their religious theologies and doctrines in place of the Law itself. They greatly sinned by attempting to add, remove, and change God's decrees in His Law, hence rendering the Law of no real benefit(non-effect) in their very lives, but that does not mean the Law was diminished in effect over all of Israel, however.

3. Here's the ridiculous mistake you Christians make of the writings of Paul. You are ever attempting to use Paul to argue against Jesus Christ— I can never understand this ludicrous behavior at all.

He, Paul, made it abundantly clear that His Master is Jesus Christ, meaning they every word he wrote would need to be understood from the context that is Jesus Christ and no other. So, if you don't even agree 100% with Jesus Christ, what gives you the mind to believe you could comprehend or even understand that which was expressed by Paul regarding his stance as a mere servant of the one who is Jesus Christ?

Paul never told any man that God changed His mind, nor did Paul say that God's forgiveness was obtainable OUTSIDE of that declared by Jesus Christ. So, I guess I should ask you why you assume here that by mentioning Paul, you can declare Jesus Christ some sort of liar and at the same time access that which is Jesus Christ. No be mumu be that?

What you are struggling with is understanding.✝ Galatians 4:4

"But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,"

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✝ Galatians 4:5

"To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons."

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✝ Luke 5:32

"I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

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This is Christ mission statement right here and Paul preach it rightly. Jesus only preached the law to make those under the law see the futility in trying to come to God by it. God demands absolute and total righteousness from men and not partial righteousness.... Ninety nine percent good and one percent bad is not acceptable to the high and lofty One.

Be perfect because your heavenly Father is perfect says the Holy One. Jesus didn't preach grace at the time, but His actions definitely spoke grace. He forgave sin because He is our forgiveness in God. He healed because he bored our afflictions. He provided because He is our provision in God.

All that Paul preach, Jesus Christ taught Him.

Kobojunkie:
1. Religion is a scam so I expect those who cling to religion to be consumed by their own confusion.

2. Yes, YHWH said He would use the seed of Abraham to save the nations of the world, but how does any of that change any of what YHWH is written to have spoken to the House of Jacob — the Nation of Israel and the Nation of Judea aka Jews — in Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34?

3. According to Scripture, the life of a man is in His blood, so to be a descendant of Jacob, one has to be a descendant from the bloodline of Jacob —Israel. So, when YHWH spoke to the House of Jacob (the Israelites including the Jewish tribes among them), YHWH meant those who are of the literal blood of Jacob. So why do you reject YHWH's declarations in Scripture?

4. Scripture instead has it that Jesus Christ gave His followers almost 100 commandments today which comprise what is referred to as the Gospel and Law in the Kingdom of God. Some of them you Christians invoke regularly without even realizing them for what they are — instructions/commandments/laws/rules that the actual followers of Jesus Christ(all of them descendants of Jacob) are meant to abide by as Law abiding citizens of the Kingdom of God.

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■ Ask, Seek, and Knock, in order to receive, find and have the door opened to you Matthew 7 vs 7
■ Pray continuously. I.e. don't stop asking, seeking, and knocking until you have received, found, and had the door opened to you
Matthew 21 vs 22 & Luke 18 vs 1- 8
■ Avoid vain repetitions because God knows what you want even before you ask Him Matthew 6 vs 7 - 8
■ Always pray in secret and in hiding Matthew 6 vs 6
■ Pray the Lord's prayer-Matthew 6 vs 9- 13
■ Forgive everyone who has hurt or offended you before you pray so your Father in Heaven will forgive you your sins- Matthew 11 vs 25 & Matthew 6 vs 12
■ Always approach God in Humility- Luke 18 vs 9 - 4
■ Believe that you have received what you ask for and it shall be done for you Matthew 21 vs 22 & Mark 11 vs 24
■ Ask the Father in the name of Jesus ChristJohn 15 vs 16
■ If you abide in Him and He, Jesus, abides in you, then He, Jesus Christ, will do whatever you ask in His name John 14 vs 13-14 & john 15 vs 7
■ Pray for your enemies - Matthew 5 vs 44 & Luke 6 vs 27- 28
■ Ask God for the Holy Spirit - Luke 11 vs 13 & Matthew 7 vs 11

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The particular instruction about love that you quoted from John 13 is just one of the almost 100 commandments that constitute the Gospel aka the Law of God in the Kingdom of God(Constitutional Law).

5. Of course I believe everything Jesus Christ said is the Truth of God.

And yes I do believe that one cannot be approved holy and hence righteous by God —YHWH —if one holds unforgiveness against others, just as Jesus Christ said. According to Scripture, YHWH does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous —even their pleas for forgiveness go unanswered by Him. Meaning that God does not forgive those who are not first approved Holy and then righteous by His standard. So, when the Law of God in the Kingdom of God — Jesus Christ—says that one has to forgive all those who trespass against one to obtain God's approval for holy and then righteousness which means answers to prayers including granting of forgiveness of sins, then it means that one who bears unforgiveness will remain unholy & hence unrighteous. It is simple to see for anyone will

Do you also believe in cutting off an arm that has course you to sin? Jesus said this as well.

Jesus was, if I must say, the greatest law preacher. I think I have to do a post about this some day. Over the years the Israelite has watered down the Holy Law of God. They found a way around it in other to look righteous in their on sight. Jesus came and called them all hypocrites.✝ Mark 7:13

"Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye."

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Ask you that question to ascertain your understanding on the things of God. ✝ Ephesians 4:32

"And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you."

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God has forgiven us in Christ not because we forgave our brother. But we are charged to forgive others even as Christ has forgiven us. Even if choose not to forgive anyone that wronged me, my forgiveness in Christ Jesus cannot be cancelled. But how can I not forgive, when my heart is overflowing with the love of God that is shed abroad by the Holy Spirit?

Jesus preached the purest form of the law and it true intent. He knows the truest intent of the Law of God, because He was actually the one who gave Moses the Law. In some cases will you see Jesus Christ preaching grace, but majority of his actions was pointing us to grace. As He said He didn't come to abolish the law but to fulfill it, and thanks be to God He did fulfill it and we in Him likewise did same ✝ Matthew 5:17

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill."

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The Lord's prayer many people are still praying today are no longer valid because must of it content has been fulfilled by Jesus Christ Himself.

Many things Jesus said, He said to those under the law to make them realize their need for a Savior.

I am the seed or descendant of Abraham Isaac and Jacob in Christ Jesus. God doesn't see the way man sees. I will leave it at that.

Steep:
Yes you only receieve the Holy Spirit once, but being filled with the holy Spirit is the level the power of the holy Spirit works through you, you can even quench the Spirit but however he does not leave but his working power through you diminishes.

Being filled is so amazing... I get filled up every now and then, especially when I am praising or meditating on the truth of the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. His gentle breeze with surround me and His annoiting keeps dropping on me even as I type this.

Quenching the Holy Spirit is we going back to works, like trying to get justification through our obedience.

Kobojunkie:
1. Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34 equally states that God would write His Law in the hearts of His people — the descendants of Jacob. Do you equally believe that aspect of the passage you quoted from, or do you merely think you can ignore that aspect of what is written as is the fashion with the religious?

2. Second, there are two different Laws given by the God of Israel to His people, the children of Israel. The Law given through Moses which I like to refer to as the Old Law of Moses came with it a Holy Spirit which granted those who lived in compliance with God's Law — Holy men—Eternal Life according to God's promise in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15-20. And then there is the Holy Spirit which Jesus Christ who is God's New Covenant Law(the Gospel) in the Kingdom of God spoke would be handed down by His Father to those who love Him(those who abide by or live wholly in submission to His Law in the Kingdom of God) - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 26 -27 & John 16 vs 4 - 16. In the same Gospels, Jesus Christ is written to have commanded His followers to ask the Father for this particular Holy Spirit whom Jesus Christ described as a Good gift from the Father.
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You should note that Jesus Christ promised the first Holy Spirit(Spirit of Eternal Life from the Old Law) to those among the people of Israel who would choose to become born-again — they didn't have to pray for it at all as all they needed to was to become born of water and born of Spirit to obtain Him - John 3 vs 5 - 19.

So, assuming you believe Jesus Christ when He said He was sent only to the Lost sheep of Israel — the children of Jacob alone —which of the two Holy Spirits described in Scripture do you claim one does not need to ask for?

Firstly, they said I am you. All these guys can see that I am not you because base on your assertion you believe the Holy Spirit can be asked for.
Long before there was a nation called Israel, God has made provision for the nations of the earth.✝ Genesis 22:18

"And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice."

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✝ Joel 2:28

"And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: "

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✝ Romans 1:16

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek."

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✝ Galatians 3:29

"And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

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Believers are also the descendants of Jacob.

Though I am struggling to understand most of your post. Jesus Christ commandment is love.
✝ John 13:34

"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another."

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The disciples don't have to pray for the Holy Spirit because they already believed in Jesus even before He went to the cross.

Jesus didn't teach His disciples to ask for the Holy Spirit. But if you should to view it that way so be it. Let me ask you a question. ✝ Matthew 6:15

"But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

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Do you believe what Jesus said here? I what to check the level of your understanding of this. Do you believe our forgiveness hangs upon we forgiving someone who wrong us so that we can also be forgiven?

WeirdAlien:
I've shown you how you contradicted yourself in Luke 11. Yet you remained dogmatic.

Someone mentioned earlier that this is kobojunkie:

Now I'm having a strong feeling he's right.

You repeat the same points even when you're shown scriptures that prove you wrong. You just believe certain (erroneous) things and lack the ability to analyse a discuss properly - you wrongly imply people's thoughts. You exhibit obvious misunderstanding of the scriptures.
Every characteristic I've seen about kobojunkie.
I'm not insulting you please, but someone needs to tell you truth. I even had to ask you at some point if you're a Christian (true believer).

If you can't read Shakespeare's books and understand clearly, KJV Bible is not for you. Even some senior pastors avoid it.
First, find a Bible version with easier English, or get one in your mother's tongue (modern translation, not old). So you can see the true meanings of what you're reading.
I pray God helps you.

😁😁😁 I don't even know what more to say. If you can show me in the scripture where people asked or prayed for the Holy Spirit I will apologize to you and admit the error is from me. Pls don't come and assume that the content of the apostles prayer was asking for the Holy Spirit.

You are forgiven in Christ Jesus forever.

You are forgiven in Christ Jesus.

Come and drink 🍷🍷🍷 the living water with out money.

WeirdAlien:
Your contradiction is in bold.
If you ask you will receive (Like 11:13). The apostles, first people to receive the Holy Spirit were in constant prayers for several days (Acts 1-2), they kept asking as Jesus has taught them. Read that Luke 11, but start from verse 5 through to 13. You'll see that the original context Jesus gave on "ask and you shall be given" was about the Holy Ghost.
I didn't say that is the only way to receive the Holy Spirit, but A VALID WAY if you haven't received yet as a Christian. Some received by hearing (Acts 10:44), some by laying of hands (Acts 8;17).


I strongly suggest you keep an easier bible version with you while you study. KJV is tricky for most people.

The context of this verse is praying for things. Jesus said if you being evil knows how to give good gifts to your children, how much more your heavenly Father. It is not about asking and receiving the Holy Spirit that will dwell in the believer forever. ✝ John 7:38

"He that believeth on me, as the Scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water."

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Jesus said it Himself that he that believes and not he that asks. There is nothing wrong in asking if you believe. But the truth is that once you believe God will not wait for you to ask before giving you. ✝ Acts 15:8

"And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;"

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God sees the heart and knows everyone heart and also gives the Holy Spirit to those who has believed. God is not listening to our asking but looking at the heart.

Moreover, there are abundant of chapters that talks about believing and receiving, but just one talking about asking which as usual is being taking out of context. In the mouth of two to three witnesses a word shall be established.
✝ 2 Corinthians 13:1

"This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established."

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Disclaimer: I am not against arm giving, praying, and doing good in general. As much as those things are righteous acts but it cannot make the doer righteous. The law of righteousness states that, you must be righteous in all things and not in few things.

Those things and deed are noble but do it with good motive and intent.
Those deeds are honorable but cannot get you pass the finished line.

Thou Fool
Many waters cannot quench love; neither can flood drown it. If a man offered for love all the wealth in his house, he would be utterly despised.
Songs of Solomon 8:7 Esv trans

Thou Fool, how miserable and wretched are you, thinking you can work your way into the heart of God. Thou fool how idiotic you are thinking you can somehow win your way into the heart of your Father. Are you without understanding? Don't you know that you are so broke to pay for the love of God? Your pride has blinded you. Do you think God is like your numerous female lovers that you enticed with cash gift, fancy cars and exotic homes? Oh you woman, do you think that your Father in heaven is like your boyfriend you capture with BBL backside, nice hair and pretentious good behavior? What do you take the love of God for. ✝ Isaiah 55:1

"Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price."

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"In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink."

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You all that think you can please God by your nice character are just fooling around. You all that think you can please God through fasting, tithing, giving of offering, going to church, giving of alms, praying like a drunkard, are most pitiable. That mental scale need to fall from your eyes. Those who think they can get forgiveness through Confessing are most pitiable as well. If your confession can get your sins forgiven and pleasing to God then Jesus Christ was put to the sword for nothing. ✝ Galatians 3:1

"O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?"

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Please, quit your labour of foolishness and Ignorance and come to Jesus to receive life. ✝ Matthew 11:28

"Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. "

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Jesus is talking to you. He sees your zeal and labour of love in ignorance. You have been heavenly ladened by bunch of rules and regulations. You have been drained by the do's and don't. It is time to rest! Rest your your souls and mind in the irreversible truth that you are loved in Christ Jesus. Rest that your trouble heart mind on Christ today.✝ John 3:16

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

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God loves you so rest on this truth. Your sins did not stop God from loving you. It rather made Him look for solution in Christ Jesus. So in Christ, God can love you forever and you will be able to receive it in Him. I end with this irreversible and irrevocable truth which is the foundation upon which the Good news of our salvation is built.
"You are forgiven in Christ Jesus." Amen.

Youareforgiven:
Is Gambling a sin?
I was not sent to tell you, you are sining even when you are sining. If I tell you you are sining will it make you stop? The Big answer is No, it will not stop you from gambling, it will rather intensify it. I was sent to tell you that you are forgiven in Christ Jesus. This message is the only thing that has the power to free you from that sin once you believe/accept it.

Do you know why it will free you? A new Spirit will come into you. The precious, amazing, magnificent and indescribable Spirit of God will make you His home and before you know it, you will begin to loose appetite of all those things that corrupt the soul. You will begin to see yourself behaving righteously without giving it a thought. The Spirit of God will keep transforming you in words and did until you are made perfect like your Father in Heaven. ✝ 2 Corinthians 3:18

"But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord."

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✝ Matthew 5:48

"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."

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We shall be perfect, but not by our vain strength but by the Holy Ghost in us. He will mold us into perfection fit for His glory and praise. Amen. Oh what a wise and righteous Father!!! Dear Father, I thank thee for the work you have begin in us through your sweet Spirit in us and I trust that you will accomplish that you started. Amen.

So people loved of God, there is no point dwelling and emphasizing on the error (sin), while you can dwell and magnifying the solution(Forgiveness in Christ and the receiving of the Holy Spirit for true transformation.)

✝ Galatians 5:16

"This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh."

KJV Bible... When the Spirit of God is truly in you the appetite to gamble, fornicate, commit adultery etc, will begin to reduce and will eventually vanish. Such is the power of the Holy Spirit in us. Amen! This my monologue will not be complete without me preaching to you the very foundation of this Good News. Preaching to you who have not yet come to this reality and also to those who are still being deceive with more of self and little of Jesus.
"You are forgiven in Christ Jesus, and as you accept may the good and gracious Father fulfill His promise of giving you His Spirit to abide with you forever." Amen!

Remain bless in Christ.
CoolJason

You are forgiven in Christ Jesus. Yes you are

WeirdAlien:
Are you even a Christian? Sorry I just have to ask.

Mind you I quoted where Jesus himself said the Father will give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him. So if you're saying it's ignorance to ask, you're contradicting what Jesus said.

How then do you receive? What principle is there? Back it up with scriptures.
I'm only replying because I want us to clear the air, for the sake of people viewing this thread who may have struggled on this subject matter.

I am a son of God. Jesus didn't say we should ask for Holy Spirit.
✝ Matthew 7:11

"If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?"

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✝ Luke 11:13

"If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?"

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This two verses are saying the same thing. The Holy Spirit is the source of all the goodies of God. The Holy Spirit can give you good things, while not dwelling in you. The bone of contention is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit upon all flesh who believe. The qualification is believing only. Your asking cannot leave the earth, talk less of God hearing and answering.
✝ Ephesians 1:13

"In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise,

WeirdAlien:
Whatever you believe.
But for those doubting, Jesus said your child won't ask you for fish and you'd give snake. Your child won't ask for egg and you'd give them scorpion. How much more will our dear Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him. (Luke 11:11) If you're a Christian and you ask God for the Holy Spirit, You will receive. Believe in your heart that God has given you. You might not feel anything or hear any voice, or speak in tongues, or see visions. The manifestions will come in sooner or later, when you learn to quiet your mind and pay attention to your heart.


Though he received his sight back, the Bible did not state that he knew at that moment, or there were any signs. Getting healed is a different thing. The only thing we're sure of is that, several days after that, he knew.

There is a principle. Asking God what He has shown you how to receive is ignorance to me.

WeirdAlien:
If Biden enters your house now and you see him clearly, and introduces himself as the President of the United States of America, you would think it's a prank. Why? Because society has made you to believe you're too unimportant for him to come visit you.

So also because the wrong doctrines people have been taught over the centuries. They don't believe they received.

Jesus said, He knocks the door of our hearts, if anyone opens, He will come in.
The Holy Ghost will not sneak into your heart. He would come in when you open your heart. But because many think they must speak in tongues or prophesy immediately, they mistake His identity with "inspiration". They fail to recognize Him.

PS
The scriptures never said Paul spoke in tongues the day he received the Holy Spirit. Go confirm. Teachers assumed it. But he said later that he does speak in tongues. It doesn't mean it was from the first day.

You sure know that Apostle Paul knows, He has the Holy Spirit.

WeirdAlien:
If Biden enters your house now and you see him clearly, and introduces himself as the President of the United States of America, you would think it's a prank. Why? Because society has made you to believe you're too unimportant for him to come visit you.

So also because the wrong doctrines people have been taught over the centuries. They don't believe they received.

Jesus said, He knocks the door of our hearts, if anyone opens, He will come in.
The Holy Ghost will not sneak into your heart. He would come in when you open your heart. But because many think they must speak in tongues or prophesy immediately, they mistake His identity with "inspiration". They fail to recognize Him.

PS
The scriptures never said Paul spoke in tongues the day he received the Holy Spirit. Go confirm. Teachers assumed it. But he said later that he does speak in tongues. It doesn't mean it was from the first day.

The bone of contention here is not prophesying or speaking in tongues or any outward miracle. You are the one making it about it. My point is that those that have the Holy Spirit knows they have Him and those who don't know they have Him, does not have Him.

Is Gambling a sin?
I was not sent to tell you, you are sining even when you are sining. If I tell you you are sining will it make you stop? The Big answer is No, it will not stop you from gambling, it will rather intensify it. I was sent to tell you that you are forgiven in Christ Jesus. This message is the only thing that has the power to free you from that sin once you believe/accept it.

Do you know why it will free you? A new Spirit will come into you. The precious, amazing, magnificent and indescribable Spirit of God will make you His home and before you know it, you will begin to loose appetite of all those things that corrupt the soul. You will begin to see yourself behaving righteously without giving it a thought. The Spirit of God will keep transforming you in words and did until you are made perfect like your Father in Heaven. ✝ 2 Corinthians 3:18

"But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord."

KJV Bible
✝ Matthew 5:48

"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."

KJV Bible

We shall be perfect, but not by our vain strength but by the Holy Ghost in us. He will mold us into perfection fit for His glory and praise. Amen. Oh what a wise and righteous Father!!! Dear Father, I thank thee for the work you have begin in us through your sweet Spirit in us and I trust that you will accomplish that you started. Amen.

So people loved of God, there is no point dwelling and emphasizing on the error (sin), while you can dwell and magnifying the solution(Forgiveness in Christ and the receiving of the Holy Spirit for true transformation.)

✝ Galatians 5:16

"This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh."

KJV Bible... When the Spirit of God is truly in you the appetite to gamble, fornicate, commit adultery etc, will begin to reduce and will eventually vanish. Such is the power of the Holy Spirit in us. Amen! This my monologue will not be complete without me preaching to you the very foundation of this Good News. Preaching to you who have not yet come to this reality and also to those who are still being deceive with more of self and little of Jesus.
"You are forgiven in Christ Jesus, and as you accept may the good and gracious Father fulfill His promise of giving you His Spirit to abide with you forever." Amen!

Remain bless in Christ.
CoolJason

FxMasterz:
This is absolutely wrong doctrine. Very contrary to scripture. Please this isn't the Wisdom of God but head knowledge. To be saved, this is all one has to do according to the Scriptures:

"But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

1. This is how the disciples got saved.
2. This is how the Ethiopian Eunuch got saved.
3. This is how the Samaritans in Acts 8 got saved
4. This is how jarius and his household got saved:

'And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled. But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here. Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway. And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.'

Jarius and his household were only Baptized in water. They never were baptized in the Holy Ghost. They were saved. Salvation is a simple experience that comes by FAITH.



This is absolutely heretic. Anyone who has confessed Jesus as Lord is saved.

By your assertion, you're actually saying the Ethiopian Eunuch was not saved:

Acts 836-39
"The eunuch asked Philip, “Tell me, please, who is the prophet talking about, himself or someone else?” 35 Then Philip began with that very passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus. As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said, “Look, here is water. What can stand in the way of my being baptized?” And he gave orders to stop the chariot. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water and Philip baptized him. When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord suddenly took Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him again, but went on his way rejoicing."

Philip was an Evangelist. By his calling, he could only preach. He couldn't get anyone baptized in the Holy Ghost. Peter and John were the ones who got people baptized in the Spirit. What is the function of an Evangelist if people don't get saved at his preaching? All those who came to Christ through his ministry are lost except Peter and John Lay hands on them? No!

In Acts 19, several people who practiced occultism got saved without being baptized in the Holy Ghost. The salvation experience is the new birth experience. The Baptism experience is the Gift of power.

Show me someone who got saved in scripture only after being baptized in the Holy Ghost. I mean someone who was declared saved ONLY after he was baptized in the Holy Ghost. Or any scripture that says you must be baptized in the Holy Ghost to be saved. Of course, there's none.

Even in Acts 10, Peter wanted to preach only Salvation to the house of Cornelius. He didn't count them worthy of Holy Ghost baptism. Only salvation. God had to bypass Peter and baptize those people with the Holy Ghost. When Peter saw that, he said "Can anyone forbid these people water? They have been Baptized (Not Saved) just as we were."

The Baptism of the Holy Ghost is never confused for salvation. Read below:

Acts 10:44-48
"While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message. The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished that THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT HAD BEEN POURED UPON THE GENTILES (they weren't astonished that the gentiles were saved because that is not what the baptism represents) For they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God. Then Peter said, “Surely no one can stand in the way of their being baptized with water. THEY HAVE RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT JUST AS WE HAVE (Peter didn't say they have been saved because the baptism of the Holy Spirit does not represent salvation. Their salvation already happened when they believed Peter's gospel in their hearts).” if the baptism of the Holy Ghost is the same as salvation, we would see it clearly in scriptures. Infact Peter would say "They have been saved just as we were". This would have been the most appropriate statement if the Baptism of the Holy Ghost equals salvation.

What about the 3,000 Peter preached to in Acts 2:41:

"So then, those who accepted his message were baptized (in water); and on that day about 3,000 souls were added [to the body of believers."

The body of Believers is the body of saved souls.

I'll like you to read Acts 15 and see what the Church stated in that chapter regarding the salvation of the gentiles. The baptism of the Holy Ghost was not a prerequisite at all. It was not even considered.

If the baptism of the Holy Ghost = salvation, then God would give every preacher the power to baptize everyone they preach to. But God didn't do that because salvation is simply by faith. Confess the Lord Jesus with your mouth, believe He rose from the dead for your justification, then, the peace of God would flood your heart. Your heart will rejoice. You're saved by the grace of God through Faith in Christ Jesus. This is the PURE and authentic doctrine of the Bible.

Haven't you read in Acts 4 that the Disciples even had another time they were filled with the Holy Ghost after the Acts 2 experience?

Acts 4:31
"After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. AND THEY WERE ALL FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT and spoke the word of God boldly."

Confessing Jesus as Lord does not get people saved. But believe in Jesus and His finished work. ✝ Philippians 2:11

"And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

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God has decreed that all tongue will one day confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Now does that make the unbelieving ones among them save?

✝ Matthew 15:8

"This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoreth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me."

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✝ Luke 6:46

"And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?"

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The Lord is not looking at your sweet confession, but your heart of believe. If confession is a formula for salvation what about the deaf and dumb? Have you considered that? Because they can't speak. Jesus never asked us to confess and be saved. God knows that the lips can say something why the heart is saying the opposite. An evil and wicked man can confess the Lord as Lord in other to gain favour. So many convert today are either there because of peer pressure or someone promised them connection. To make the matter worst, the messages they are under is twisted. The message they hear in this places are worsening the situation.

Some are there to look for husband, while the men are there to look for new girl friend.
✝ 1 Samuel 16:7

"But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart."

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The Lord is not looking at our confession but our heart. That is plethora of Scripture speaks of believing and not Confessing. Don't you know you can deceive some one with words?

Moreover, apostle Paul is not even talking about the salvation of believers here. He is talking about the salvation of the Nation of Israel as a collective.

FxMasterz:
Acts 10:8-10
"But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,”[d] that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. "

Any doctrine apart from the bolded is not of God. Salvation is as simple as that. This is what the Lord Jesus Himself preached. Salvation is simply by faith. The thief on the cross got saved this way. He didn't speak in tongues, yet Christ promised him paradise.

Are you aware that the Roman Catholics peddled many false doctrines that later saw the baptism of the Holy Ghost become a rare phenomenon among Christians. This Baptism of the Holy Ghost is a revived truth God re-introduced into the Church in the early 1900s. Before then, believers never spoke in tongues. They were never never baptized in the Holy Ghost.

Martin Luther, John Calvin, John Wesley, William Booth, A W. Tozer, Watchman Nee, J B. Stoney, Charles Spurgeon and all the great men whose lives are still a blessing to us today were never baptized in the Holy Ghost. They were born again. They were saved. They won many souls to Christ. But they never experienced Holy Ghost baptism. This knowledge was shut off from them in their days. The knowledge of the Holy Ghost baptism resurfaced only in the early 1900s. Till today, many born again Christians still do not believe that the doctrine of the Holt Spirit baptism is scriptural.

Now, tell me, the men that I just listed above for you, you may or may not know all of them but I'm sure you might know many of them; were they saved? Or are you telling me that they were not saved because they were not baptized in the Holy Ghost?

Pastor Kumuyi of Deeper Life became born again in 1964 but received Holy Spirit baptism in 1970.

I was put in temporal cage by the gods of Nairaland, 😉 but thank God that I have been saved from the cage that truly matters in Christ Jesus. Glory to Jesus Christ who made it possible now and forever. Amen!

Back to the truth. There is no salvation without the Holy Spirit in you. You are not a son, if you have not the Spirit of God.✝ Romans 8:14

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God."

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You all have made people that have not the precious Spirit of God to believe they have. Through this scripture which is being taking out of context. ✝ Romans 10:9

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

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You all latched unto this scripture allowing the devil to deceive many through you in thinking, if you say few words then boom, you are saved. You used this passage of the scripture to compel many to believe that they are saved after saying some words. Oh man and pride! Man will always think of ways to be involve in his salvation. You all abuse this scripture, using it to lure many into false hope. People that hadn't believed you force, compel and cajor to confess just so you will be seen as a "soul winner." For your own pride and boastfulness you and all who engage in this is leading souls that Jesus died for to the ditch. The wrath of God will be heavier upon all those that engage in this. The gracious Lord did not beg you to come and lead the people He love and cherish astray through twisted message. How long shall you wander in pride? If you don't acknowledge and accept that salvation is God's work alone you will perish.

Matthew 19 :
17 Message Bible. Jesus looked hard at them and said, "No chance at all if you think you can pull it off yourself. Every chance in the world if you trust God to do it."

✝ Proverbs 16:18

"Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall."

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Your confession formula can't save you. All over the world people are deceived through this formula. It is true that the Lord delights in our confession, but not on the lips of an unbelieving heart compelled to do it by men. This men pride themselves as soul hunters. They even boast that God is blessing them because they are soul winners. They even manufactured the second coming of the Holy Spirit to explain away the lack of His presence. They neglect plethora of Scripture that clearly explains the road map of our salvation in Christ Jesus, while hanging on to this singular passage of the scripture. The Lord is angry with wolves in sheep clothing leading His beloved to the slaughter house.✝ John 1:12

"But as many as RECEIVED him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that BELIEVE on his name: "

KJV Bible✝ John 3:16

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
✝ John 3:18

"He that BELIEVETH on him is not condemned: but he that BELIEVETH not is condemned already, because he hath not BELIEVED in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

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✝ Acts 16:31

"And they said, BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."

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✝ Ephesians 1:13

"In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye BELIEVED, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise,"

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✝ John 6:29

"Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye BELIEVED on him whom he hath sent."

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✝ John 3:15

"That whosoever BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but have eternal life."

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✝ John 7:38

"He that BELIEVETH on me, as the Scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water."

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I will love to continue but let me stop here for now. One thing is common in all this scriptures, it is the word BELIEVE/ACCEPT/AGREE. Jesus said the only work God want you to work in this life is "BELIEVING."

Please people loved by God, run away from those who is convincing you that you already have the Holy Spirit because you were compelled to say some prayers. They are the blind leading the blind and the result will be disastrous. I will conclude this by pointing you to the way, the very foundation of the glorious message of God. Amen!

"You are forgiven in Christ Jesus and are made right with God forever."

I leave you with the peace of Jesus.

FxMasterz:
Let's not argue unnecessarily. There was no exception in Samaria. The Samaria experience has been the experience of all believers through the ages. You first get saved, after this, the empowerment. You must first be born before you can be empowered. God cannot empower someone who has not been born. And actually, He doesn't. Britt first. Then empowerment.

This type of doctrine you're pushing could easily make people doubt their salvation and therefore backslide. It isn't biblical at al. This is because when you become born again,you become born again by faith. You won't see any special activity except a gradual change in your life. You start hating sin. You start loving the Word of God. You start enjoying the fellowship of brethren. The desire to serve God starts to burn in your heart. You even want to tell others about Jesus.

When you receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost, it comes with all evidence. You feel sensations. You speak in tongues. You know something has happened to you. You don't know you've received the Holy Ghost by faith because the physics evidences and manifestations are always there. Just like Pentecost. You don't need to be told that you've received the Holy Ghost. You know yourself. But at salvation, you need to be reassured. Satan comes to deceive you and make you backslide. You need the assurance of matured believers. Then you keep growing and the change in your manifests with time. For the baptism, you get the evidence immediately. No need to be assured.

For example, my dad was a Muslim. He started attending church. Left Christianity too and became a free thinker. He later became born again. Buried his free thinking. Started attending church. Overcame alcoholism. Started witnessing for Christ. Became extremely Zealous for the Gospel. One year later, he received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost after being prayer for in a fellowship. The experience transformed his Christian life. He died as an Evangelist to the glory of God.

1. The evidence of salvation is a changed life.

2. The evidence of Holy Spirit baptism is the speaking of new tongues.

Both are done by the same Holy Spirit.

One of my pastors had been a pastor for years. He was a sound teacher of the Word. Won many souls for Christ and lived a very holy life. Till today, he is one of my most respected man of God. I actually married his daughter. He was the type of Christian who believed that you receive Holy Spirit baptism at salvation. The moment you're saved, you already have the baptism. That was the doctrine he knew and held on to. But after many years of serving the Lord, one day, he received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost in his sleep. He just started speaking in tongues in bed. He never asked for it because he believed that tongues passed away with the apostles. The old man still speaks in tongues but does not understand much about that phenomenon. I worshipped in his church for 5 years and during that time, he never preached a single message about Holy Ghost baptism. And I'm sure he doesn't teach it til today.

Meanwhile, I teach this things. I got baptized in the Holy Ghost in 2000 after I gave my life to Christ in 1999. I have made altar calls for Holy Ghost baptism on countless occasions. "If you're saved. You've given your life to Christ but you do not have the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of Speaking in tongues, come forward." People come forward, I lay hands on them like Peter and John did to the Samaritans. Like Paul did in Acts 9 and they start receiving the Holy Ghost and speaking in tongues. My youngest sister came to live with my family in 2014. I preached the gospel to her and she gave her life to Christ. Few days later, I taught her about the baptism of the Holy Ghost. After the teaching I asked her "Do you want the gift of the Holy Ghost?" She answer yes. I laid hands on her in the guest room which my wife gave her as her room. She received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost in the guest room and began to speak in tongues.

My son for example is born again. He even has a WhatsApp group where he teaches the word of God to people. He has a burning zeal to see people saved but he is not yet baptized in the Holy Spirit. They're not currently with me in my location. So, I told my wife I've got to visit the children and get them all baptized in the Holy Ghost. This is absolutely in line with scripture. People don't speak in tongues when they get saved. They speak in tongues when they're baptized in the Holy Ghost.

This is the practical things we see God do in the world. And this is practically what we see God do in the Scriptures.

By the grace of God and my Lord Jesus Christ I preach not my own wisdom but the wisdom of God in Christ Jesus. There is no double coming of the Holy Spirit. The one you call the second coming is the authentic one. You got saved when you received the Holy Spirit. I preach the gospel of our salvation. ✝ Jeremiah 8:11

"For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace."

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Many have been deceived that there is peace where there is no peace. Of what use is false hope?... I am not making anyone doubt their salvation. Wrong message is stealing the salvation Jesus Christ died to give them. What shall it profit you if you think you are save and on the our Lord Jesus Christ will return for His bride and they will be found not worthy.... Do you want people to be like the foolish virgins who forgot to take oil for their lamp... Matthew 25:1-13.

Thousands are under false hope that they have the Spirit of God why, they have Him not. False doctrines like the one you are trying every means to uphold is the reason. Thousands gathering in this beautiful cathedral don't even know if there is anything called Holy Spirit like the disciples apostle Paul met in Acts 19:2 but you people covers it up with double coming, thereby making them feel save in the face of real danger.

I am doing what Apostle Paul did in Acts 19, directing them where they will get the Holy Spirit. Directing them to the true gospel where they will eventually get the Oil for their lamp.