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geek: It's not as easy as that oga. You provided false evidence in your failed application that you had previously travelled to Poland, Hungary, and some other Eastern European countries.

Presumably you also listed them on your visa application form when answering the question "have you travelled outside your country of residence, excluding to the uK, in the last 10 years"

So that's two separate documents they know about.

They have full access to your previous failed application. Don't you think they're going to realise if you presented evidence of previously going to one set of countries, only to not disclose them in your fresh application? You got away with it this time but it will get picked up in your fresh application.



No, it's because people like you who deceive in the attempt to get a visa, selfishly make things worse and so much harder for genuine applicants!

Vicjustice: It seems you want encouragement rather than to accept the reality of the gravity of the situation that you are into.
I don't want to give you false hope based on wishes, but to tell you the undesired truth that you are in an unfavourable situation that does not seem to have an immediate solution.
If you apply for a UK visa again, your travel history would be looked into and scrutinized, and if you do not apply now, the infraction and the consequence will be waiting for the day that you will apply again.
The only way that you can get away with it is if the deception is not discovered.
I'm sorry to disappoint you by saying that i don't have a solution for this situation.

Vicjustice: You seem to be a very confident one, but my friend, i can tell you that (it is a potentiality that) you are in a serious trouble due to the previous use of deception even if it was not discovered (or so you think), but remember that the embassy keeps your files and your every information is saved under your data: so, you would have to defend that false claim regarding your travel history: therefore, you may resort to lying further to defend it or confessing to have used deception and both actions carry the 10 years ban.
Good luck

Vicjustice: I'm sorry to disappoint you, but looking into your records as revealed in your earlier posts, it is unreasonable for me to give you a valid advise after knowing that your application is fraudulent as results of the deceptive measures that you took: these revelations put your entire claims in a position of no credibility thus making any advise in the regard unreasonable.
Please, understand that I'm not trying to be a saint, but that it won't make any sense to advise you on the way forward since I have doubts on your true circumstances.

worry 359: zabrinma
You are falling into classic problem!
Many others have seen this.
Most countries consider money in buisness account belongs to the company and is not avaliable to an individual.
I does not matter what is normal in Nigeria!!
So only your personal acc should be used.

Vicjustice: Please, what's that question again?

Vicjustice: [size=20pt]Observe the bolded red highlights and see that you contradicted yourself when you said:
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[size=20pt]Where-as, in you other post, you said:[/size]


[size=20pt]So, how could you claim that all your "documents are original" or genuine?[/size]

Vicjustice: Indeed, your documents are original, but how do you explain the red bolded highlights?

Dramadiddy: Please guys, I need ur advice on what to do on this... you have applied to join Mr. A, whom you state is your uncle in the uk in support of your application. You have provided birth certificates, death certificates, photographs, school records and copies of emails. You state that your parents died in 2010 and since then you have been living with Mr. A's cousin. There is nothing to show that Mr. A has had day to day responsibility for you. You need to demonstrate that he provides you with all the emotional, financial and other needs which you may and do have that he can and does exercise full control over the major aspects of your life, such as schooling, religion, medical care, etc. Although you have provided school documents that your fees have been paid and letters from you to Mr. A thanking him for paying your fees, there is no evidence that he actually paid them. The letter from your school states that Mr. A has been your guardian all through 2006-2013, however you state that your parents died in June 2010 and that Mr. A became your guardian after that date. You have stated in your form that you keep in touch with Mr. A and his wife through via phone calls and emails. You have provided copies of emails from you to his wife but these are few in number and only cover the periods nov-dec 2012 and june-august 2013. You have provided a birth certificate for yourself dated October 23, 2013 and death certificates for your parents dated 02 October 2013. Your birth certificate has been produced over 16 years since the date of your birth and death certificates have been produced over 3 years since the date of your parent's death. As such, I consider these to be self serving documents and am not satisfied that you are related to Mr. A as claimed. Having considered all of this, i am not satisfied that Mr. A has had sole responsibilty for your upbringing. I therefore refuse your application under paragrph 297(i)(e) of the immigration rules.



You have provided no detail or evidence or your current care arangements in Nigeria. You state that you have been living with Mr. A's cousin since the death of your parents in 2010. You state that this cousin is married and you can no longer stay with them. Due to the lack of evidence of this arrangement, and the above stated concerns about your relationship with Mr. A, I am not satisfied that there are serious and compelling family or other considerations which make your exclusion undesirable and that suitable arrangements have been made for your care. I therefore refuse your application under paragraph 297(i)(f) of the immigration rules.


Please can you help point out the reasons they refused the application because there are many things written and I don't which is correct or wrong. Please thanks

Vicjustice: The delay is (most likely) because they are doing background check with the countries that you claimed to have visited: Naive indeed, you should have known that both the UK and the countries that you lied with are all in the EU.

Vicjustice: How many of these "British Citizens" are taking up illegal employments in an Africa country, or are resorting to public funds under an African social welfare?

yusfaith78: I applied for uk visa in november and I was refused because the ECO said I didnt explain how I want to spend my time in uk and that I didnt summit any document dat show my financial circumstances in nigeria, but trust me its all lier I summitted every single document dat show my financial curcumstances like my company bank statement and personal bank statement, tax clearance, certificate of incorporation and some other necessary documents including how I intend to spend my time in uk. So I reapply immediately add a letter from an immigration lawyer then I can a call from the embassy to come for interview tmrw. I just want to if its a good thing or not

ty01: It is not out of place to take some time to return your documents. Some verifications are done via phone calls, while some (especially those with seals) are done physically. Physically, i mean BHC will scan or send the original documents to the issuing authority for verification. BHC will have to wait for the issuing authority to return the documents before forwarding them to you. Meanwhile, the issuing authority might have communicated to the BHC by mail to confirm or deny the authenticity of the documents. By such email or phone calls, BHC can make a decission, but the documents can not be sent to you untill the BHC receives the original copies.

The delay may also be due to the inefficiency of te courier compay, I think they use UPS.

Best of luck bro nad pls relax your mind ...

ty01: I think you might have submitted some documents that required thorough investigation. I just picked up my visa (plus my wife and kids) today and the issue date on it was 24 December 2013 (exactly 3 weeks after submission) even though i only got an email yesterday stating that the visa is ready for collection in two days. I took a gamble by going there today and was lucky to realise it was even ready for pickup. I got the usual SMS afer I had already collected the visas . I can only advise you wait till first week in January. I suggest you take your mind off your application and concentrate on other productive things, worry changes nothing; the decission is already made anyways. Happy new year bro...

Dramadiddy: tourist visa applications r plenty in nigeria theyre in their thousands...i fink its still nrmal for u to wait

Vicjustice: First of all, I like to warn you to avoid "agent", just to beware of any agent who interferes with visa application, such is not an agent but a syndicate. A genuine agent only deals with travel related issues such as itinerary arrangements and other travel related information etc. But as for visa related matters, just stay away from them because, they are agents of doom, deceptive syndicate, professing to be influential with embassies, they get you into life-long troubles while they get paid. Beware of them.
Now, to your queston, it is not a requirement that he must visit relatives because they live in the UK, especially if he is an independent traveller (with general visit/tourist visa) with tight personal schedules: remember that the UK is not that small... But it is a different thing if applying for a family visit visa

Dramadiddy: well i mailed sheffield...their response is polite and relievin and i blive its d truth..u shd try it out

Vicjustice: I'm not Justwise, I'm not Justfool either.