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We need Mattew Crooks in Eagle square.......Perhaps if we had someone like Mattew, before the druggie could even mention Subsidy is.........You would hear kaboooom. He'd be brought down on that podium of Eagle square.

But we lack a Mattew here.

Dear Mattew, pls leave Trump to breathe, Come and take the right target away from the podiums of Eagle²

My guy, be very careful. This might be a faceless forum, but there are eyes that can see you and hands that can touch you wherever you are.

Again, be very careful.

Quintessence44:
Actually you are wrong.

So called dead people are alive in another dimension.

They are more alive than you.

I'm so interested in what you have to say. I know there's more to this life than our minds can fathom.

EngrKemp:
Hahahahahaha

This is the question they can't answer walahi


Imagine in court

Judge will ask

Pls martins and co

What political party are you now?



Na dia case close !!!

Hahahahahaha.


PDP last week made a press release calling them ex lawmakers and not members of PDP following their willful defection .


South south PDP chairman suspended and investigation panel constituted .


Ex lawmakers bawo o
Lol

We are talking about the reality on ground and you're referring to figments of your imagination. 😂😂😂😂😂

You're talking about PDP, but can you answer the question: Why are the PDP lawyers in court supporting Amaewhule? You no go fit answer am.

Anytime you see Wike smiling and dancing, just know say something shocking dey pipeline dey come.😂😂😂😂

Captainero:
Martins Amaewhule is in charge of Rivers state house of assembly, and who lied to you that they're not getting their salaries and allowances? They are well paid and still living in the official assembly residential quarters

Gbam! Most of them don't know this! 😂😂😂😂
They think politics is emotional blackmail.

koondog:
Democrats behaves like Yorubas, as in deceptive, skilled in propaganda, piting one group against another. Big on socialism, taxation, borrowing and spending. Also two-faced people, promote single mother households and liberalism/agboroism.

While Republicans behave like Igbo people, very straight forward, don't wish anyone evil, believe in fairness and justice, capitalism, cutting cost, low taxes and pro business . Promote two parent households and conservative lifestyle.

Typical Nairaland modus operandi!

We go soon banish the few senseless Yourbas and Igbos wey dey misbehave on platform. Make una go create another one platform to continue the madness!

Just take a look at the nincompoop above! I strongly believe s/he is less than 18.

Bulldozer90:
I thought he should be speaking Benin and not Igbo?
He thought he was in a drinking bar.

Go and drink enough water, it's good for you.

Wike can sing in whatever language and that's his prerogative.

Dry your tears and drink enough water.

kingbee90:
The fact that Agbadorians are jubilating on the Supreme Court ruling because they think it will ONLY affect Rivers State is laughable.

- Rivers State is not the only state currently running a CT system in Nigeria.

- Rivers State Electoral Commission has already fixed LG elections for Oct.2024 & not INEC.

- Rivers State is a very rich state & Gov. Sim can still fund/pay the caretaker chairmen till Oct. when the LG elections would be conducted by Rivers State Electoral commission . He would erect his own "structure" at the grassroot before then.

- Many poor State Governors (especially in the North, South west, east ) who are currently running a caretaker chairmen system would revolt & would not implement the Supreme Court ruling because if they do, no money for them again.

- Not all elected local government chairman would betray their Governors. Dem go just dey chop Tinubu federal government money but dem go still pledge alliegence to their governors at the end.

-Wike, when he became Governor in 2015, dissolved democratically Elected local government Chairmen and seized their allocations till date and now he is currently the savior and messiah of Agbadorians

- Wike also appointed caretaker chairmen and they stayed for 9 months before he conducted LG elections.
The day Wike will start fighting Tinubu, dem go change their mouth as usual.
Pathetic people

Since you've mentioned Wike, mention the others who didn't conduct LG elections for straight 8 years.🤨

I trust her to withdraw this suit by next week. Na her style that.

Honestly, I used to love Arise News until I was able to decipher the level of bias they have against certain persons. If you've observed, they always use a particular footage of BAT whenever reference is being made to him. That footage is somehow sha.

Again, Rufai no fit hide me negative and positive bias for some persons. He is very intelligent, but he forgets that neutrality should be his guide. Ayo remains the best for me, while Reuben Abati na heavy politician. Baba likes sitting on the fence when it comes to politics.

ExudeLoveToAll:
Come over to PH and talk this rubbish small boy, u go dey one rat hole for iragbiji dey talk nonsense. You think say Port Harcourt na south east? We go drill you to stupor, make Una get sense for once.

Oga nothing dey happen! Dem no even born the CTC Chairmen to near the secretariats as e stands.

Joshy4u:
Ahahahahahah.... go to Rivers and yan this in front of Obio-akpor gate. Ruling when no get weight? Until all care takers in APC controlled states obey, you are just day dreaming.

Oga, nothing dey happen there! Na police block there till Rumuokoro. Na one-way we dey use follow there.

Besides, the CTC Chairmen in Rivers state dey busy dey appoint hundreds of special assistants. Na for their bedrooms and toilets dem go stay dey carry out administration?😂

prestige257:
Hello Nairaland lawyers please i need your advice.
My mother and elder sister sold our late father's house secretly without our consent around february this year but we just found out only recently.It's a 4 bedroom bungalow.The buyer has completed renovation.Have we lost out? They didn't share the money they are holding on to it.Is there anything that can be done at this point in time?

Quick one! Did your dad die intestate? If no, did your family get Letters of Administration from the court?
In the order of succession where there is no will, your mother comes first before you and your siblings. So as family head, she has the right to sell the property. She however owes a duty to carry you along in both the sale and the proceeds of sale.

You will find the most clueless of people in the National Assembly.

It's Akpabio's audacity for me when he said they could end by 1pm. The thing dey scatter my head!

Like 11am - 1pm to play childishly and talk rubbish will enable them get millions of naira every month?

My goodness!

phantom:
Our unbiased , objective Bsc Lawyer.. I greet you... 😂

Chief Phantom Fubara!

The joke is on you!
The law allows me to support whomever I want.😂

PDP dey carry Fubara play kalo-kalo.

1. Why did they wait for him to complain before speaking up? Besides, even a child born today knows that the current PDP leadership is loyal to Nyesm Wike.

2. How come they are saying one thing but their lawyers are in court supporting the Amarwhule-led Assembly?

Wike needs to be studied as a 6 credit unit course in tertiary institutions.😂😂😂

Ojuntana:

As your lordship pleases
I will attempt to read but I hope I don't read erroneously

😂😂😂😂😂

Ojuntana:
How are the facts different

It's your turn to go and read the facts of the case.
I'll be here waiting.

Ojuntana:
It's no longer erroneous defection
It's now attempted defection
This guy

Wahala dey oooo!
Erroneous +Attempted detection = No defection.😂😂😂

I just read the judgement of Justice Taiwo Taiwo in the Cross Rivers Assembly saga, and all I can say is that the matter is slightly similar.

The matter was instituted by the PDP unlike in Amaewhule's case. That's a huge factor there lacking in Amaewhule's case.

Again, the FHC can give a different judgement in the instant case because the facts are different.

Let the courts decide.

Ojuntana:
You just keep shooting yourself in the foot. Amaewhule was under the impression that he defected? So who is telling him now that he has not defected since he is now claiming that he never defected? You have still not told me where it is written in our laws the process of leaving a party. You have not furnished me with the process from our laws or PDP's laws. What is clear and I have said it is that you cannot force membership of an association on anyone. You cannot say there is a procedure for leaving. Even the army as regimented, if you abandon the army, no one will say you are still an army officer. To all intent and purposes, you are no longer a soldier and will be court martialled for desertion. How much more in a civilian setting?
It is also laughable that you describe proceedings in plenary of the House as skit-making. Is the House now a comedy house? Haba! Have some shame now. We can also say the 7-day ultimatum they gave Fubara is a skit. Do you agree?
The fact still remains that there is no prescribed process for defection in s109. What it says is that there should be satisfactory evidence that the member has defected. And it is beyond doubt that a letter read on the floor of the House is satisfactory evidence.
Again, go and read Justice Taiwo's judgement. The members claimed they never defected but were expelled and are not members of APC. APC corroborated the claim. But the judge ruled them defected and kicked them out.
Defection is with satisfactory evidence on the floor of the House and not letter of resignation or membership of another party.

You're obviously not going through my posts to understand, but to argue. Attempted defection is not defection.

Let the courts decide.

opamoses1:
Congrats to FCT first lady and justice of the court of Appeal.

Ikwerres are not ibos.

She is originally from Ekpeye but by virtue of marriage, she is Ikwerre.
Most people do not know herself and Wike were course mates. Na there their love start.

And those of you saying the appointment is unmerited, abeg forgive Wike for not supporting your candidate. Please forgive him.😂😂😂

The woman is soooooooooound and very competent to do the job.

Ojuntana:
1. What you just described above, is that not perjury? People swear affidavit to declare their age and it is taken as evidence of date of birth. Is affidavit a birth certificate? Note that the members did not just go to court to swear affidavit, they announced on the floor of the House that they are no longer members. So I ask again, If i declare with a notary public that I am no longer a member of an association, have it published in a newspaper and still go to court to swear an affidavit to the same, can I be said to be a member of that association as far as the law is concerned?

2. The section you referred to does not recognise party laws as valid instrument of interpreting the Constitution. It specifically gives a directive on what the membership of the exective of a party must contain. You surely cannot stretch it to claim it gives party laws the right to determine how to be a member and how to exit the party. For example, a party can have different rules for membership but they must ALL have the same rules for the party executive as outlined in that section.

3. Since you already previously accepted that non-payment of party dues and writing of resignation letters are not the only grounds to cease to be a member, I ask you now, are you implying that one can be forced to be a member of an association he wishes to leave? Because if the members wrote to the House to notify them that they are no longer members of a party, waved flags and sang songs of their new party in the House, are you saying the party can write to the House to disregard their letters and insist that those members still remain theirs?

In response to paragraph one, it is said to be perjury when the deponent is "knowingly" telling an untruth. In my opinion, Amaewhule was under the illusion that he had defected, but he failed to follow due process i.e. formally leaving PDP and formally joining APC. There is a prescribed way to do these. You know that already

In response to paragraph two, I only drew your attention to Section 223 in order to show you that the Constitution recognises the Constitution of parties. In peculiar cases, the courts are invited to adjudicate based on issues affecting a party's constitution.

Finally, I'd say that no one in this case is forcing another to be a member. Remember, THERE IS A PROCESS FOR DEFECTION. Assuming I swear to an affidavit claiming to be President of Nigeria and I go to a media house to tell Nigerians that I am the resident, will that make me president automatically? No! There is a process for assuming the Office of President.

In the eyes of the law, the video can best be described as a skit. The flags and symbols mean nothing. The party APC is saying that these guys are not "card-carrying members" which is a requirement if you remember. PDP on the other hand is saying "We are no seised of the information that our lawmakers defected because there is a process to be followed."

LET'S WAIT FOR THE COURT TO DECIDE.

ObaKlaz:
Meanwhile, Oga Mistiano Penaldo, Mr. WaSIU go return to Camel league begin score goals wey him nor fit score in Euros against Alhajis wey dey fast, and him fans go begin hail am.

You are a mad person! LWKMD! 😂😂😂😂

Ojuntana:
Good!! Thus, if I go to court and swear an affidavit that I'm no longer a member of a party or association or if I declare before before a notary public and have it published, can I still be said to be a member of that association?
Secondly, I find it disturbing that you're quoting APC and PDP constitutions in a purely constitutional matter. Are you saying parry constitution can be used to interpret the constitution? Is it valid to use party laws to determine what is implied by the constitution?

Ehen! Better person.😂
Let me make this very simple.
If you swear an affidavit saying you've resigned or ceased to be a member when your membership was not terminated by resignation, failure to pay party dues, etc. Then that's manifestly untrue.

The right way is to resign and then on oath state same to be true. One comes before the other. An affidavit is not a resignation letter. Do you get?

On the APC/PDP Constitution matter. I make reference to them because even the Constitution recognises them in Section 223(1)(2) of the CFRN 1999 as amended. They prescribe rules that members MUST follow. The CFRN is not against it.

Again, since the APC/PDP Constitutions draw validity from the Constitution, the Constitution remains supreme.

Currently, there is no conflict as it concerns the laws of the parties above and the Constitution.

And contrary to what you've said, it is not totally a constitutional issue or how would you determine whether or not a person is a member of a political party without referring to that party's constitutional provision on membership?

phantom:
What was the conclusion of the okorowo suit. Because they applied for an interlocutory injunction. Did he grant it?

Go and ask Henry Ekine or Falana.😂😂
You no sabi but you 1 put mouth for wetin you no know.🤡

phantom:
😂 😂... look,in essence, the meat of the suit is actually the same in both cases. I don't need to be a lawyer to know that.
Brother, they abandoned the Okorowo suit because PDP had a sworn application nailing them there..

Chei! The suit was not abandoned. Don't you know what an interlocutory order (injunction) is?
Besides, the prayers are different. Who do you this thing😂😂😂

phantom:
😂.. you are just as crooked as these men you defend. You doubted an affidavit... maybe tomorrow when I lay my hands on that first application by PDP, you'll wave it away as AI generated.

Oga, why was Okorowos suit abandoned? Why did they file a new suit before Omotosho

I never doubted the said affidavit! I challenge you to highlight my post evidencing such. I told you that the affidavit will not on its own oush them away.

Can I be the president of Nigeria today because I swore to an affidavit? No!

The law is that an affidavit would be discarded as a piece of evidence by the court when its content is manifestly untrue. Hon. Martins Chike Amaewhule is still your speaker until a superior court of record says otherwise.😂

And why are you waiting till tomorrow to lay your hands on the alleged application? You want to go and ask your ill-informed people as usual?😂😂😂😂

phantom:
Fine, it was presented before Okorowo... why initiate another suit before omotosho.. please school me my dear lawyer. I'm waiting. What were the applications before both judges?

And again, the pleasure is mine to tutor you.

In Justice Okorowo's court, Amaewhule made an application praying the court to stop the PDP and INEC from conducting an election to replace them.
This was the chief prayer.

In Omotosho's court, he prayed the court to recognise him as the authentic speaker as opposed to Edison Ehie, nullify all the actions carried out by Edison Ehie and others because they were suspended, compel the governor to to present the budget. There were other prayers too.

I hope you're not confused in any way. 😂

phantom:
This man you are arguing with is not even aware that the PDP filed an application declaring their seats vacant in addition to their sworn affidavit. Its all before Justice Okorowo

How did you shift so fast from Justice Omotosho to Justice Okorowo? You can't even acknowledge me for tutoring you free of charge.😂😂😂

Moving on, I challenge you to present the alleged application PDP filed. Let's assume I don't know, so here's your chance to enlighten me.😂😂😂

phantom:
This man you are arguing with is not even aware that the PDP filed an application declaring their seats vacant in addition to their sworn affidavit. Its all before Justice Okorowo

Is it now Justice Okorowo? It was Justice Omotosho yesterday and you called him a corrupt judge.

Oya present the application that PDP filed fast!!!

phantom:
Your learned silk Falana is also misguided ba? Oga answer my questions above. Forget this your unimpressive flowery language.

Take a step away from your body and then do well to take a good look at yourself. What do you see? Outright ignorance I presume.

I cite laws and decided cases. I do not cite Femi Falana. My arguments are not based on what Henry Ekine or Falana said but what the law says.

By the way, you created a thread to lie against a judge and when I called you out on it, you ran away.

Was the purported affidavit presented before Justice Omotosho? Address it now or crawl back to your hole!

Ojuntana:
Again, you have sidestepped my question. Let me ask again in another way.
Is writing letter of resignation and trashing membership card the only allowed way to cease membership of a party or any group for that matter? Yes or No?

Note that those letters you posted, the word used was "intimate" "inform" "notify" and not "request" or "apply".

No sire, save for resignation proper, there are other peculiar ways. I therefore refer you to Chapter 2, Part 1, Paragraph 15 of the PDP Constitution.

Judging from what you said, did Amaewhule intimate, inform, or notify the PDP?

Peace be unto you.

phantom:
😂 😂... you still dey school these imbeciles.. including the one with a Bsc degree in law.. that cannot interprete correctly the process of defection in a house. Let him and go get schooled by sound legal minds like Henry Ekine.

You're a lawyer doesn't mean you are a good one. QED 😂

I tutored you last night and you ran back to your hole without disputing me on points of law. Mind you, I do not have a "BSc degree in Law."😂😂😂

I can't let you misinform the public with your half-baked arguments fuelled by emotions and ignorance. Can't you see that I am having a meaningful conversation with someone who is raising some issues unlike you? I consider him smart, and you, intellectually bankrupt.

Henry Ekine might be a good lawyer, but he's been talking trash as it concerns this issue. There is law and there is something called political emotions. I've known him not to be a fan of Wike, but who cares? The beauty of the law is that you can agree or disagree. In doing so, reference must be made to the law.

You created a post to humilate a learned Justice of the FHC when in reality you're not fit to lace his shoes. You belong to the armpit of society, but Nairaland has somewhat given you a platform to brandish your ignorance for the world to see.

Insha Allah, I will be here to continue perforating your arguments built on lies, emotions, and deceit, and IGNORANCE!

You cannot have legal arguments with me because it is my stock in trade. Unlike you, I do not listen to Henry Ekine or the other misguided political analysts you listen to so you can spew your constant trash based on hearsay and nothing else.

While you argue based in emotions, I cite laws and decided cases to buttress my points, and that's the difference between us. You against me is like child abuse to me.

I am a lawyer and oh yes! I am very good at what I do. If you do not agree with my opinion(s), then argue like a smart person and not like one with vacany upstairs.

Dunce!

Ojuntana:
Erroneous defection. I've heard something new. Let me ask you two simple questions.

1. Based on freedom of association, do you need to write a letter of resignation and tear your membership card a la Obasanjo with due respect to him before you can be seen to not be a member of a party?

2. If you agree that there is no such procedure for resignation or denunciation of membership, can the members be said to be independent candidates? Can that stand?

They are members of the PDP. Their alleged defection is vitiated for want of due process. Your membership of a party is not done orally, why should the resignation be done orally? I challenge you to show me the resignation letter of Martins Amaewhule or the others. PDP has said that they did not defect as no resignation letter was forwarded to them. Freedom of association is not the case here because no one is being forced. If it were so, a Fundamental Rights Enforcement proceeding would have sprang up against PDP.

Judging from practice, and using Peter Obi, Emeka Ihedioha and Hon. Dan Iya as case studies, the proper way is to tender your resignation to discontinue your membership of a party.