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ceejay80s:
I only read quarter and it's trash

A white cloth viewed with a green lens will appear green. Your brains might need some attention

erico2k2:
No they are not growing,infact there is a clamp down on their means of generating revenues, The pastors now have to get a real Job not just pastor

Lol
Hearsay as usual
So you attend the church to know they are not expanding worldwide. Na wa oooo. People sef. So pst Chris told u he asked his pastors to get jobs

Kobojunkieee:
1. Wrong!

2. It does not matter whether there are such arguments or not. There names or any assumed ideas you may have mean absolutely nothing to this conversation.

Oga who are the authors of this your Bible that according to you every action should be evaluated in the lens of

erico2k2:
You have no clue lol, well let me educate you more.
Christ Embassy and its like register their churches as Charity organisation so they do not pay tax on any revenue generated in the UK. However when questioned by the office of Internal revenue aka Oga tax they could not show evidence of charity works within the Uk even though on their books and records huge sums was leaving the country and so they were asked to pay tax.

Ok
Jesus was also asked to pay tax
So how has that affected Christ embassy
Are they not still growing and having there services in the UK?
So in UK, does churches register as business entities?
Ok so Christ embassy should register as a business or what are you talking about registering as Charity so that they won't pay tax

Kobojunkieee:
1. Shakespeare's books, written about 500 years ago, have been translated numerous times. Do you question the originality of even the most current version of the book you pick up off the shelf today?

2. It is not my opinion that each of the authors of the books in the Bible made clear their ideas and intended audience as well as context for their expressed ideas. Why you think this fact is of opinion leads me to wonder if you have ever actually read any of the books of your bible for yourself.

3. It does not matter whether one believes in what you consider the authenticity of any of the books contained in your bible. What matters is simple and clear. The individual authors, like the author of the book Harry Potter, clearly indicated an idea, the context, and the audience. Anyone who deviates from that indicated by the author does so of his delusions. This is not an opinion but a fact!

4. It does not matter the particular identity of the authors same as it does not matter the identity of the author of Harry Porter or Shakespeare!

Shakespeare is a name of a known author of his books. There are no existing arguments about that
Who wrote the books of the Bible?
Who exactly are the authors?
Can you name them?

Kobojunkieee:
1. Rubbish! Why should I concern myself about such things when I am here to argue based on what is known? Are you OK at all? What is known is that the individual authors of the book made clear the particular ideas and context to which those ideas are to be applied, the same as the Harry Porter author did.

2. Billions of what researchers? The sayso of the authors of the books themselves are all that matter here and in any court. Your billions of researchers are merely opinion pushers and their opinions are useless to anyone with a brain.

3. Again, the authors of the very books made clear their ideas and the context to which they are to be applied. All of your final truths that do not align which the intentions of the writers are nothing but mere delusions.

The authors of a book that have been translated over a hundred times before you got hold of one. Everything you wrote here is called "opinion" and since your opinion have not been put to test to validate the reliability. It can't be used as a tool to judge others

Millions don't believe in the authenticity of your Bible and they look at you as very foolish just the way you look at miracle water believers as foolish
If I ask you who are the original authors of the different books of the bible, you can even say with certainty

LegacyB:
O boy your case is even confusing you. Well one day you would have sense. Jesus is Lord , and he give knowledge and understanding. Not gullibility. The situation of your country is enough evidence. Shalom!

You will be seen as a gullible foooool it you say this in some places. And they will believe they are very correct seeing u as gullible

I might believe in Jesus more than you, but may not see people with different beliefs as gullible. Some people worship trees, let them ne. If some people believe miracle water will heal them, let them be too

vanitybutiwanti:
Just like your father idiiot, I dare you to take the selfie, all you have written here will be forwarded to him hypocriite criminal, just look at what you wrote up there and you come to the Internet to castigate politicians, you must be very stupiid and delusional, an idiiot like you will do worse than some of the present crop of politicians if you have the opportunity, fhuck off with your faux sanctimonious comments, it's because of lowlife hypocritical criminals like you politicians won't stop rigging elections.

Chiwawa is barking
Hungry chiwawa for that matter.

Kobojunkieee:
Your assertions are meaningless given the fact that you in fact believe the original scripts are likely lost to you. You can only argue that which is known and not that which is not known. So, please stop jumping all over the place as it actually reveals your ignorance all the more.

Lol
I didn't say the original scripts are lost, I asked you can u objectively say the version u are using is the correct one?
"You can only argue that which is known". Oya what is known?. Because millions of researchers are countering what you say you know. Muslims, Buddhists are countering what u sat u know. So the question is, what is known again?
You are d one dat is very ignorant here. Am just having fun replying my mentions and telling people like u to hold on to your belief and Allow others hold on to theirs as long as they are all under the ambits of the law

It absolute stupidity to think that what you think you know is the final truth. Something you cannot even prove. While others are foolish ti believe what they also claim they know

Smithwilliams826:
If you are minding your business, you won't be here commenting.

Oya na
Don't mind your business. Find the nearest business and put ur nose

vanitybutiwanti:
shut the fhuck up hypocriite

Animmmal. Barking like hungry chiwawa.

BeigJawnson:
Na now you talk... You come dey talk like say you understand Greek ... Telling me to refer you to it ... Once again, miracles can't be bought.... Many Christains don't read their Bibles...

According to your English Bible ooo. Which might have been tampered with

BeigJawnson:
Very dark man has petitioned it at NAFDAC office... Anything you buy with money as for miracles end with problems...

From my English version of bible, Jesus Christ never sells any thing miracle objects to people... Neither His followers did...

I also believe in the power of God... Not miracle water... Those who believe in that are in wild ignorance...

Good nafdac will be held liable if they truly approved a product that didn't meet up to standard and not Jeremiah.

From your English version. Can you prove that people should live their life according to your English version?. Since you don't know if your English version is absolute truth, believe what you believe let others believe what they believe

BeigJawnson:
Obedience.... Yes but not obeying to buy rubbish in search for miracles... You get it now?

Go wash yourself in a pool sounds rubbish
Taking a clay, spitting into someone's eyes sound rubbish
Touching someone's garment sounds rubbish
Bringing out sick people to be healed by someone's shadow sounds senseless

So what in your Bible doesn't sound rubbish again

BeigJawnson:
No answer of having authentic proof that some portion of accounts were destroyed...

So, I don't understand the language Greek .. I understand English only...

Do you understand Greek?

Since we don't both understand Greek and we have no concrete evidence let us believe what we believe and let others believe what they believe

LegacyB:
Why do we preach the gospel. Did he create those members himself? So he should keep manipulating the gullible ones Abi. Abeg you need to go back to school and ask your school for refund.

Can you prove with empirical evidence that they are gullible. Or is gullibility defined only from your own perception?
That gospel you preach what objective evidence do you have that out of the thousands of religions that only yours is correct??
You might actually be gullible too.

Nah when you get to a certain level in education, you question everything. You are the one that need to be educated

If ask you to prove that you were born on the day they told you that you were born, you can't even give a 100% prove. So actually nobody knows anything

Believe what you believe, you can even try to convince others to see through your lens. But calling those who don't have the same belief as us gullible is the height of ignorance

BeigJawnson:
Miracles come in fixed patterns... Lol... Do you get that from the Greek original manuscripts or what? Cos I have only the English version..

They are now hunting the hunter
I only referred to your English version now. At least in that version there were acts of obedience for most miracles

That's why I said it's better you believe what you believe and let others believe their own. I

BeigJawnson:
I WILL REFER YOU TO THE GREEK VERSION IF ONLY YOU AND I UNDERSTAND GREEK

Even with the Greek version, was it the exact scroll written by the original version?. Do you have authentic proves that some portion of the accounts from the major actors were not destroyed forever or lost


If you entered philosophy class, you will no exactly what am doing. If what you think you are certain of can be questioned

BeigJawnson:
Mind you once again, I don't play bets...
Well if you can get us the Greek manuscripts of the bible ... Then we can compare and contrast it with the English versions.

So those 80% miracles you know about in the bible, is it from the Greek manuscripts or from the English version you know them...?


Mind you, i know too well that anything spiritual can't be talked about in court of law....

I like the way both of us are sounding confused now

That the original is not within your reach doesn't mean that English you are using is original.
Good you said anything spiritual can't be judged. So how do you prove to the court that a water branded "miracle water" and approved by nafdac is fake

My point is hold what works for you strong and allow other to hold theirs. As long as nobody is harming nobody physically

Catholics believe chaplet protects them, let them be
Muslims believe those threaded beads have power, leave them alone

At the end of the day you are not even 100% objectively certain that your own believe is right
By the way I don't believe in miracle objects. I believe strongly in God, but I let others do their thing

ComeToJesus:
No be who chop dey stay alive till 2027?

You guys should stfu.

Your life skip 2023? Abi u dey coma?

Lamba!!!!

erico2k2:
yes you are right but watch the video again when and where he was asking for NAFDAC number, there is none.But then again if there i s NAFDAC number then its fraud cos his miracle soap and water will not need MAN approval for it to work,

NB for Christ Sake why are Nigerians and Africans so Ignorant and cant see these so called Men of God are taking you lot for a ride,whyyyyyyyy

Jeremiah said his products have nafdac number and dats where I base my argument on. If he is lying that's his wahala. My point is clear. If Jeremiah's product have nafdac number then vdm has no case

Africans ko. It's people like u that castigate your colour. In the west they worship all manner of nonsense. Trees, cats, animals, and many more. Should we talk about China, India, Saudi nko?
Are Africans the only religious continent?

Tomilolakk:
But your types will never want girls to walk naked so as not to corruption your daughter. Can't you see you make no sense?

Let them walk naked joor
It's My responsibility to point at them and tell my daughter why they shouldn't tow that part
I go past a lot of almost naked girls daily and I don't even notice them.

BeigJawnson:
Mind you I dont play bets,

Miracles don't come with this definition of formula I am talking about...since you know about 80% miracles in the bible, please mention anywhere in the bible where one miracle was bought with money ?...

Miracles come with a fixed pattern. Obedience is one common denominator. So if they obey Jeremiah

I have addressed the bible issue earlier

Van you objectively prove that the portion where miracle was sold was not lost or removed from the bible. Now after shouting in ur mind, come out with ur proof

And please refer me to the Greek original manuscript written by the authors and not the English version.

You said mind you I don't play bets, that's an invalid statement in relation to the argument to which I mentioned the bet

Mind u too I don't believe in miracle water
But the law doesn't care about what you or you don't believe

erico2k2:
These ideas of yours is what the west managed to stamp out ages ago hence no one can take the pizzz.SOme like Christ embassy and the others learnt the hard way.ALl it takes is for one investigative jonalist to open ur file then you are done.This is waht VDm is doing

Christ embassy did not learn anything. They are expanding more sef.. the west are still very religious. Trump said God's miracle saved his life and he got a thunderous applause.
Vdm has no case as long as nafdac approved the water and soap

Nobody is learning anything. Churches are still very well expanding.

[quote author=femi4 post=131438415]The joke is on you
Wọn ti fi ori ẹ gba parJeremiah.
Aturu a na ako gheri
Oluku nwuru anwu
Ezi Ohia
Ogun nyukwa gi nsi n'onu dia
Otule chiwawa

erico2k2:
I think you are missing the point, listen to what VDM is saying, anything nafdac approves must have the content ie all the chemicals used in producing it written on it, check your own soap. However there is nowhere it is displayed on it meaning it is not approved by NAFDAC, even pure water has NAFDAC number.

If nafdac really approved that soap or water then vdm has no case against jeremiah. Let him sue nafdac for failing to follow their laid out procedures

BeigJawnson:
Joy soap didn't say it will give joy... Do you get that?

By the way, if you know what they call real miracles from God, they have no formula...
Let me ask you before I go further... Are you a Christain?

Lol
Joy soap advertises joy in the use of their soap
Some even advertise flying when u use there product. So when you drink Supa commando do you fly
When you brush with close up does your teeth sparkle like they advertise?
When you Plat sporty bet do you always win like they make it look?

The little I know about miracles in the Bible more than 80% of them came with formulas. Wash in the river, strike the rock, anoint his head, mold a clay, etc

Don't ask me if I am a Christian, raise Bible points if you wish

And if I believe in the miracle water then u are joking
We are talking law here

femi4:
Sheepel
No iota of IQ

Mr IQ cry me a river

Minjim:
The pastor ought to have confined the sale to only his church members.
How was VDM able to get hold of it?

As long as nafdac approves it, he can sell it to anyone he likes

There is no legally approved non medicinal or non intoxicating product that by Nigerian law is confined to a specific set of people

BeigJawnson:
I hope you watched the completed video clip, didn't you see where the self acclaimed man of God said the miracle soap has NAFDAC NUMBER? So spiritual soap was taken to for a lab test and thereby certified by NAFDAC?
Definitely, the law has to prove it. Since it is certified by NAFDAC...

Good assuming he is saying the truth that nafdac approved it, you have no case
If you carry juju soap and go to nafdac they will run tests to ascertain that the soap is safe to use and approve it

I can produce a soap and name it spiritual soap, it's just a brand name. Has Joy soap proven that their soap gives joy? So why does spiritual soap need to prove anything.

vanitybutiwanti:
shut the fhuck up hypocriite, do you ever mind your own business, I wish I could see you right now, I will slap the fhuck out of you.

Wike criminal. You still come here to cry. If I tell you to come let's see now you will run. Don't worry I will take a selfie with your criminal god one day so you will see. Nonentity feeling funky