₦airaland Forum

emmy4real94:
You think getting a job while u are sacked is an easy thing?
It's 100 times getting a job while they were stil employed but right now..
They will sweat to see a job..

And the skills becomes useless once they Dont get a refinery to work at..

Skills become useless indeed. When did you leave school? Is that how the education became useless?
People sef

Anyway dangote have reemployed them, they will stay there and look for other better jobs.

isahsalee:
False information everywhere, believe it or leave it, no worker was reinstated, insider reporting!!!!

Inside of what?

after4:
You were in the meeting when pengassen wanted the worker to be redeployed. Well done

And again he doesn't know the difference between reemployed and redeployed

How far, are you done with your utme Registration for next year?

creativejagaban:
How is that your pain? Dangote employed them. Dangote disengaged them. How does that give you running stomach?.
Or are you related to racoon?


Where was pengassan when all, I mean all......I mean all our refineries were going down. They cared less, so far they are collecting their own dues.

Dangote refinery is synonymous to Nigeria refinery. So any pengassan or penga-tuer or saboteur should never be allowed to rubbish the refinery.

Imagine the audacity of pengassan to want to go on strike because of dues collection! Putting the Nigeria economy in danger!

If your lord obi were to be president, would you allow pengassan to do to Dangote refinery what they did to our dead refineries?

I don't expect objective response from you though.

You sound more pained than dangote himself

This one is jumping around, pengassan, dangote, obi, refinery, dead refinery

Na wa oooo, coordinate yourself so you can make more sense abeg

parags:
Learn strategy bro. Small sacrifices for Long term goals. It is better the workers should look for other jobs than return.

A whole lot of them have been freed from the bonds they signed with dangote and won't return. And they are all very eligible job candidates
Experience plenty
Training plenty
I don't think any refinery in the world will turn down such CV

mikeapollo:
How could Dangote refinery employ 50 or more people for the past 10 years?
How old is the refinery and when did it start operations?
There may be people who earn N400k or N300k but those that were trained abroad would be senior staff e.g. engineers, accountants etc and their salaries would be higher than that. Even if it is not more than that, it is better than not working and sitting at home doing nothing.

Have you seen
This one may even be writing utme next year
Before you replied, all you could have done would have been to search "2015 dangote refinery recruitment"
It's obvious most of you supporting dangote are just inexperienced

As I told you before you must be a senior staff before pengassan and the sacked workers collect 300k

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
But you are dull fa! They lost their jobs! If you are redeployed from NNPC to ministry of education will you celebrate it as victory since you are still a government employee? Do you think those Dangote workers would have meddled into unionism if only they knew PENGASSAN will let them down like that? Dangote will definitely mark them wherever they are redeployed to and when he will strike them PENGASSAN will not say a word!

The analogy of nnpc to ministry of education shows who is the dull person here

It shows you know absolutely nothing about nnpc. Moreover they will be paid the same salary based on the agreement
So if you send them.where there is no work, that's your business

Moreover, I heard a lot of those guys will refuse to return. Based in freedom from the bonds they signed. You are joking with engineers with world class experience. Na wa ooo
Which school did you go to lemme even ask

moneylatalks:
Workers welfare ko
Check up dues ni

That's your business. You think they really need (800 x 3,000 = 2.4Million per month) . So pengassan will be fighting for a paltry 2.4M

Na wa oooo, have you really seen any pengassan member in your life before?

after4:
No, they will be redeployed to other dangote companies where they will become obsolete and frustrated out.


My father do not need to do what DR has already done, both you and your pengassen's plan did not work finally

Become obsolete with trainings in india, experience in refinery design and engineering alongside operations and maintenance of a world class refinery.
Which school did you attend by the way

Pengassan wanted the workers to be reemployed by dangote and it happened. Objectives achieved

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
They are out of his refinery and definitely no longer qualified to be PENGASSAN members. How about unionism in Dangote refinery? Dead! Dangote 1 PENGASSAN 0

They are still dangote employees abi
And he still pays them salary abi
Good
Pengassan was after the workers welfare and they got it. If newly employed workers call upon pengassan again, they will come to their rescue

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
Point is Dangote didn't want unionism in his refinery and he won. You are too slow to get it. If Dangote chooses to sack them tomorrow, PENGASSAN will not even be in any position to fight for them as they are no longer oil company workers.

Oga fast Did dangote bow to pressure and re employ them or not That's the question
Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow
How far today.

mikeapollo:
Yes, but definitely not all of them. Some may not even have enough practical experience because Dangote refinery is still very young.
And I don't believe people were trained in India and they are being paid 300k as salary in Nigeria. That is not possible..

OK now you don't believe their salary is 400k gross and 300k net abi.

Out of 800, in the next 3 years over 700 will get far more better jobs where they have far more better respect.
Dangote refinery employ like 50 or more every year for the past 10 years now, and as trains the professionals in India, if you are not in that Cadre you can't be in pengassan, go and find out the meaning of pengassan. It's an insult for a pengassan member to be earning 300k

MuchAdo:
They would have since left if it was that easy. For every lucky one, there are several unlucky ones.

Oga don't you understand
Before their training they signed some years bond they will not leave. You think they will be easy to replace and dangote gave them.that bond to sign

On the other magine you compressor expert working in rice mill and you are still paying him.exactly the same salary at the same time spending millions to train another one. Who will loose?

emmanuelewumi:
They are hot cake in the labour market as a matter of fact most of them have gotten better paying jobs and none will accept to be redeployed to Dangotes subsidiaries in Taraba, Zambia and Uganda

Leave those people who think that the world revolves around dangote 300k job
Most of the signed bonds and that's what's keeping them there

Imagine an engineer, trained in india, part of the refinery design and commissioning, a world class refinery for that matter. Looking for job, na wa ooooo

MuchAdo:
They will be 3rd class citizens wherever they find themselves earning far less than their colleagues

That's if they are luck to even get the job in these times when countries are locking up opportunities against foreigners.

in Saudi Arabia or UAE earning less than 300k?
Na wa ooo
Fear God
Experienced Nigerians are getting jobs daily in middle east oil and gas. Na u wan go there without nothing to offer them

franugo:
But he sacked them earlier and they were asking/protesting for their jobs back, if it's that easy to move to another place, do you think they'd have gone to this length to get their jobs back? You're talking of bonds, if an employer terminates your employment, that nullifies any bond you have with him, so I'm not sure how a bond held them back after dangote sacked them

They were not protesting rather pengassan was making a statement. If they were easily dispensible then why did he make them sign bonds.
Or did you see any of the sacked workers in the street protesting? Those guys are easily employable finished products for IOCs and oversees companies

Think wide

mikeapollo:
Some of the workers would still be called back to the refinery. But they will NEVER join PENGASSAN/NUPENG again with this experience. Unless the worker is a fool.
So Dangote has won.

most of those workers with training in india and 5 years experience in a world class refinery won't go back to work for 300k oooo. What happened to UAE, Saudi Aramco and the rest

Dangote has given them free transfer.

Streetinvestor2:
If it was that easy they won't have been fighting to stay back in the refinery.
Infact they would be happy to leave or have tendered resignation since when the company went against thr will.Stop claiming what u are not.If u are part of them u lacked wisdom

Me work in dangote's company? Ahhhhh see insult na

Most of them could have left there if not because of the bonds they signed na. Now they are free. They will go one by one

Dangote can spend more employing experienced Indians oooo, or training another batch, who will also join union and jakpa

MuchAdo:
Story story

They will be flushed out eventually under one guise or the other.

How dare you dictate to your employer? What effrontery!

Some of them could have left earlier if not for the bond they signed. Now dangote frees them from that bond, they will go with all the training and experience and guess what? Lots of refineries abroad can't wait to have them. Imagine their salary compared to dangote 300k

Summary: dangote spent millions of dollars to train them for other companies

Who lose?

billyG:
How many functional refinery do we have in Naija to engage them?

They were trained in india, obtained international certifications, worked in one of the biggest refineries in Africa.
Find out how many refineries are in the world

you Gerrit?
If you don't Gerrit forgerrit

creativejagaban:
Na your loss or what?

Once they are successfully redeployed, they will no longer be under pengassan or nonsense-ssan.

By then, dangote can decide to week them out one by one for non-performance, and pengassan will not have the jurisdiction to fight for them.

You may argue that the jobless nlc will then jump in to fight for them. Until then.

Nigerians need to start asking questions about how nlc, pengassan and other unions use the funds accrued to them over the years. We need an hashtag.

#whereisthemoney-pengassan

Weed out the people he spent millions to train in India, and the people that have already gotten enough experience to get better jobs abroad

Do you even know why dangote made them sign bonds before their training? Man must be licking his wounds by now. I guess you have never reached the level of knowing what it takes to train staffs and lose them immediately

[quote author=mikeapollo post=136977835][/quote]He sacked them and reemployed them on the same salary scale
So whether they work in sugar or cement they will earn the same pay

What a victory for dangote

MuchAdo:
We don't care!

So far there are NO unions in Dangote refinery

PENGASSAN can go to hell. It's game over for them. No union can hold Nigeria hostage anymore

Did they also inform you that those workers will be paid the same amount no matter where they are redeployed to. Don't worry you will soon see the details of the agreement

Pengassan secured the victory for those workers
Before you sack anybody for joining union, you think twice

Streetinvestor2:
If u are one of them take heart..What will u be doing in those kind of company if ur expertise was on oil and gas.They will only end of destroying the skill over time.
Let dangota put up advert for those vacancies and u will more than enough nigeria unemployed youths show up with even better qualifications. And those vacant positions have been filled already. Did u hear the refinery has slowed down in operation since it all started.
Many of them will not even accept the new redeployment because of the state the companies are located
Thr village people remember thr case

Dangote just trained people for years and freed them from the bonds they signed. I guess this one is too big for you to comprehend

They will now carry the training and years of experience to places like the middle east and north Africa where their skills are in high demand

Judolisco:
no... Dangote is actually smart with dis move... It happened in unilorin years back... Some lecturers join ASUU strike lost their job... It took them 9 yrs to get their job back through d courts.... D effect of dis action was that whenever ASUU asked their members to go on strike unilorin members didn't join as none wanted to lose their jobs....

With the knowledge and training those guys have, they will be hot cakes in middle east and some parts of Africa. Actually they were freed from the bonds they signed because of the money spent on them

mikeapollo:
Dangote did not go back to his vomit! He says he is reorganizing his refinery and does not need those workers there anymore. And that still stands.
He is the owner of his factory, PENGASSAN cannot dictate to him. And who says those redeployed workers cannot be sacked again in future if the misbehave? He has only accepted to redeploy them based on humanitarian grounds.
But dem no born any worker in the refinery to go join PENGASSAN/NUPEN again! That is what matters!

Let PENGASSAN/NUPENG go fight for the sales attendants who sell petrol into peoples' cars at filling stations and they are paid less than the minimum wage.

After all this long talks, did dangote reemploy them or not?
Sales attendants have their union too. When we talk pengassan, we talk about people who run the economy of this country through valves

fitinwell:
Nigerians can be easily cornered... No wonder a political strategist can generate lies to Nigeria by hand picking anyone even an ex convict.. or with nepa result to rule us...

Indians are taking over our jobs... And all u say is that Dangote is smart here... Wait until your child grow up... By then you will understand..

That post you quoted eee, read it again in contest of the previous quote
Read to understand

Eniitankorede:
You are wrong in that. Pengassan only agreed to save face and to prevent people from exposing their real intentions for the strike.

Did dangote re employ the sacked workers or not?

Educationalserv:
Oboy you are dull ooh . redeployed from Dangote refinery at 800 to Dangote sugar Numan at 280 in a Snake infested location .
You no well 99 percent of them go resign
Other are going to rice mill in Hadejia
Other Sugar Farm in Nassarawa .

Did dangote bow to pressure or not?
Did he bend nyash or not?
How does how he bowed of concern to me

parags:
Lol . Those staff will all be sacked again. Redeploying them to other parts and firing them soon after will be treated as isolated incidences that occured at different times . Not that they will be in one company at the same time . It is a Trojan horse and Pegassan has accepted it .

As a private business , you have the right to hire and fire anyone for whatever reason . Rehiring them is just to bid time and get the strike suspended .

So why did he re hire them?
And you think people who have undergone years of training in refinery operations and were part of that refinery start will look for job for that long?

Na wa ooooo.

Streetinvestor2:
Oga he won big time.The oil guys will be redeployed to his rice farm or sugar up north.They will have new salary structure. Then gradually will be sacked again.They lost out big time.Then they equally now have dent on thr cv which new companies may not want to employ them within nigeria if verification is done before employment.

So the rice farm and sugar people are slave camps abi, not conducive for an average human to work?

"If verification "
Am sorry for you, those guys that spent months in India won't find it hard to get refinery jobs anywhere in the world because they ve worked with one of the biggest refineries
Have u asked why dangote mandated them to sign bonds.
Dangote has lost talents and replacing those talents doesn't come easy. I guess you haven't really gotten to that level to know the importance of human resources in any organization