₦airaland Forum

Educationalserv:
When month end you no get alert you eye go Clear

Dis obe thinks pengassan is ASUU or government work
No wonder they come here to tall wat they don't know

maiunguwar:
Dangote can do without crude oil from Nigeria

OK the he should stop crying already
He should also do without gas. I hope he imports that one do

ridwintin89:
Dangote is a Bully,how can you sacked 800 workers because of joining a union.

I knew the moment Dangote said any workers that to join the union should go ahead.it was a trap to disengage them.

Dangote is wrong.Workers need protection.

Those workers have not even joined the union ooo. They just indicated interest

VEE2010:
I trust Aliko Dangote,
First, he will weed out all local Senior employees to address this issue once and for all.
They so-called PENGASSAN thought they are dealing with NNPC refineries they have succesed running aground.
Enough is enough; a microscopic few cannot continue to hold an entire industry to ransom. Dangote is their cure, the earlier they realise, the better for them

This one thinks pengassan went to dangote refinery to shut it down. Small enlighment, no they can't. Pengassan members shut down their own facilities from producing crude oil. So dangote should enter escravos and open the valves

yarimo:
It's not by force to join any union, PENGASSAN and NUPENG are underground criminals against Nigeria and Nigerians parading themselves as union

Pengassan members have suspended production activities na. Go and open the valves for dangote

FreeStuffsNG:
They will hire people who will replace them and make sure it doesn't happen again.

Last time, Pengassan president was lamenting seriously that oil companies no longer hire Nigerians, this is the kind of sabotage they want to avoid if this is true.

Go.and tell total and Chevron to sack their staffs and hire new people na
Or you don't know shutting down crude oil production was a joint action from all IOCs and NOCs

chidiokay:
ALOL, you sha pass thru school, how can you miss the " context" ...
we have freedom of speech and here is a seun that provide a platform (i.e enabling environment )

Uncle why not just Copy nd paste the " constitution" you have here, lets us interprete it in english for you
Fundamental right to defy your employment condition ... mi o gbo rii 🤣🤣

Nah aturu ocha
Read the law first, then come back and explain

Streetinvestor2:
I wasted my time reading this rubbish. Why don't u go create job and employ those people who he sacked.The man gave them job and paying them well.instead to face thr jobs they are planning how to destroy his business. If the refinery completely shut down will u force dangote to employ even a single person. The useless union why haven't they built thr own refinery.

Charge your battery full, there may be blackout. The useless union's action will sure touch you na.

after4:
Is there a law in this country that said every oil and gas worker must be in union or that a company must employ a worker if he is a member of union?

No
No law
The law only states they are free to join if they are willing without fear of victimization
Now ask your question again

Neoteny:
Let's use the bastion of so-called civilization as an example: the US.

Microsoft has laid off thousands of employees because of AI. So has Facebook. Tesla at one point laid off its entire supercharger team. What happened? Nothing.

Because private companies can hire and fire, so long as it's not on the basis of bigotry.

There's no law that compels private companies to hire anyone, nor is there any law that prevents them from firing anyone. If such law exists, please mention it.

Also,. mention this so-called human right and where it's enshrined about hiring and firing

Also explain why Dangote hasn't been arrested by the Nigerian government because of the layoffs being illegal.

Dangote won't be arrested because there was no provision for legal prosecution in that law. Same way no pengassan member will be arrested or forced into the plant because of the strike
Aura for aura

Gboss247:
Yet, Nigeria is the poverty capital of the world earning $43 monthly minimum wage.

At least the union got something
Why don't you walk into aso Rock as one man show and tell tinubu to increase it

Slimm01:
Does ASUU includes to private universities? Now, apply that sentiment to a private refinery. Some of you people will just come up with stupid analysis. It is the we the selfish masses that are putting the Nigerian masses in suffering, then after you will blame the government for your suffering. All these unions are created for their selfish members purposes....and not for the betterment of Nigerians. Let PENGASSON go on strike, then let us suffer long fuel queues and rise in transport fares. Or let Dangote refinery fold up and we go back to importation. Useless country full of useless people.

Add light to your suffering
Because power will soon go off
We must all suffer with those who were unjustly sacked

chidiokay:
Listen to yourself, Lets follow your claim Unilorin lecturers didnt join ASUU solely cos of their decision ... Now that Unilorin Mgt made a U - turn back into ASUU why did the lecturers not stick by their decision since the ball is in their court
Mgt U-turn the staffs also follow .. is that not tew much for a coincidence

You my friend is very Funny, Employee have Right to join any union But that greatly depends on enabling environment solely determine the Mangement

Nobody is saying you can't join Nupeng But you cant work for Me that is Dangote stand ... very simple

if i tell folake4u its either you marry me or you hold on to xtainity cos i am a muslim ... if she chose church that like tellin me dude go to hell ... you cant sue me if you eat your cake n dont have it

shey i go open your head put wisdom inside nii

My late dad once gave me a condition , if you must keep late night clubbing leave my house ... was a teenager i didnt cry fundamental human right i picked one

Oga go and read the universal human rights law before you come here again
Find where they wrote enabling management
If you don't see it there go and ask dangote to add it

Go and read the law you wont

zelnababa:
only if you can explain to me of what benefit of pengassan to Average Nigerian ? even to the so called members,? They re only fighting for The monthly due payment by this members, then return some percentage to branch as rebate which will also be pocketed by the branch excos , they can only fool some ppl not me.

Pengassan owes nothing to an average Nigerian
They owe thr duty to their members.
Their members are not complaining about the dues either
Go and find who owes u something, it's not Pengassan

Minjim:
300k for drivers or engineers

This is being wise by half. You're quoting a flat rate as if all engineers do the same work.

300k for drivers or engineers?

And how much is 2million annually minus pension and tax?
The other 5 million is even smaller than what they pay Indians
Get me a senior engineer that earns up to 500k

zoedew:
That is not the issue here.

I just told you why they are wealthy. Or do you have evidence of any other means?

zelnababa:
they should go let it go down nobi their papa give Dangote money to buit refinery, they frustrated shell by this same tactics of illegal strike.

Can you explain how they frustrated shell?
Can you also explain why shell workers who were pengassan members migrated to Renaissance without any hassles

Can you also explain why shell offshore and gas businesses is still having pengassan as staffs

zoedew:
"Currently there." PENGASSAN members can no longer be "there" as it is no longer business as usual. You have not addressed the issues. Where did PENGASSAN wealth come from and what is it been used for? Can you tell your members the figures of the profitable investments the wealth has been used for? What is the meaningful contribution of PENGASSAN to the advancement of Nigeria. Has PENGASSAN not been in existence all these years when the oil and gas sector of the Nigerian economy was being mismanaged having been riddled by mind-boggling corruption especially in the public sector a la NNPC who for decades never remitted income to the Nigerian treasury until recently. These are the issues we should look at so Nigeria can go forward. We should be patriotic.

Pengassan staffs are senior oil and gas workers from total, Chevron, shell, IOCs and NOCs
Now go and find out their salary and come back

zelnababa:
they should go on strike naw, they re some useless ppl who does not want this country to work, they are finding all means to fight Dangote cus of their selfish interest. They don't even believe that individual can archieved what Government can not. Where is shell today? This criminals frustrated shell till they sold their onshore, infact the last sincere union leader in this country is oshiomole.

They will go on strike and the economy will go on strike
Even tinubu will show face. Since you don't know pengassan is one union in Nigeria that once they strike things will go down
Charge your phone well ooo, because power plants will go down too

If I ask you to prove how they frustrated shell now, you can't. Just yarning

walenack:
I see your post everywhere you are so much embroiled in defending this action by Pengassan and you have nothing to say about the hardship that will be imposed on the common man if this strike should commence or are you a member?. You are not even talking about the implications of this strike probably because you don’t care talking about how a private employer sacks its employees I don’t know when Dangote became a public enterprise

Yes it's paining me.
Out of the 1000 workers, over 500 will be breadwinner with children in school, some their wives may ne pregnant. Difference between me and you is that I put myself in people's shoes and ask what if it is me. Some of you lack humanity

walenack:
I see your post everywhere you are so much embroiled in defending this action by Pengassan and you have nothing to say about the hardship that will be imposed on the common man if this strike should commence or are you a member?. You are not even talking about the implications of this strike probably because you don’t care talking about how a private employer sacks its employees I don’t know when Dangote became a public enterprise

The Law didn't exonerate public enterprise when it declared that workers are free to unionize go and study the law

Minjim:
What is the benefits of joining a union?
It is to protect workers from inimical policies of the company.
We all know that Dangote workers everywhere are well paid with good renumeration. PENGASSAN just want to infiltrate the Dangote Refinery so they can manipulate their operations the way they have grounded NNPCL.
If you are a biz man that have made such a huge investment, will you allow such unions to dictate how you run your company . The Refinery has its own union but PENGASSAN want to force workers to join . The same thing they're are accusing Dangote of ,they're themselves are guilty of .
My take is that , Dangote Refinery should be left alone . With unionism we've seen what has become of government owned companies.

Dangote pays his workers 300k
Now if you see that as a good salary for a professional engineer then I have nothing to say to you

In case you were not enlightened, Dangote workers voluntarily joined pengassan and dangote sacked them. Where in the news did you hear pengassan were forcing the workers to join, and dangote sacked those they were forcing
Some times I wonder how u guys think

chidiokay:
Lolzzz my very funny friend, Pls back it up in the constitution, which section mandate an employer must join Union ..

Are you aware Dangote cement is not under Union, And there are even many private companies not under Union .. be my guest nd ask people with knowledge

Unilorin didnt join ASUU for 20yrs did the school die, even the university under ASUU were they better than Unilorin then.

Maybe you dont know the story, Dangote bought new CNG trucks and deciders to employ drivers for his truck, most of this drivers turn out to be Nupeng members, then he creat is Term n condition for employment i dont want Unionism ...

Now to the employee its an open choice, decide to stick with your Union or exit nd find job elsewhere they chose Union thats is a reply itself .. literally that prompted there lay off, dangote just clicked OK

No be these country we dey a governor told all his staffs as i am defecting to APC, if any of you wont knindly resign .. why Pdp not carry them go court

Somethings are common sense walahai, You made your choice live with it

My friend can you go and read the Labour law of Nigeria as well as the United Nations Human rights declaration?
If uniilorin lecturers are not in union, that is because they don't want to, not because uni illorin as an institution asked them not to. I don't know how difficult that is for you to understand. Employees have the rights to make that decision not employers

Pengasan has declared strike, and declared dangote's actions illegal and cited UN ILO as I have been shouting it to you since yesterday. Now you will use this case and learn.

tollyboy5:
This statement no get meaning.
Indians full US tech companies

Are you sure all is well

chidiokay:
Dangote didnt defy any law to begin with, The Law stipulate everyone has right to associate or " Dissassociate" .. emphasis on " Dissassociate" because people like you only put out " association"

However Dangote as an entity acted within his right as an employer to Dissassociate, and he made his management rule ... i dont want unionism which is permitted by the law

An Employee also has rights which is subservient to Management Rules, however what an Employee have thats supreme is choice to stay n abide by Rules or Exit go to where favor you
But in All of these Pengassan cant force Dangote to bend for your Right, when you have choice to Exit

As for Pengassan they are just hiding behind a finger to carry out there interior motive to sabotage Dangote , and they will fail ..... Dangote has his trucks n direct supplies Pengassan contibute nothing so there strike attempt wont work

On every truck registered to pengassan they collect 100k or is it 1m ... that is what is paining them not the workers ... its about the money they will lose on dangote trucks awon were

The right to associate or dissociate is for employees not for employers. So did thr workers tell you they wanted to dissociate
Have you seen your life awon industry fuel station dispenser
Pemgassan have no business with anything truck. Oil industry worker don't know the difference between nupeng and pengassan
Now continue dispensing the fuel you are dispensing

tollyboy5:
You wan dey compete with India efficiency?

U wan dey compete with India slavery?

madridguy:
Why are you like this? Yoruba said your tribe is not opposite to them,na by force to gum body with them? Stay your lane, answer your fathers name and let everyone be.... Stop putting mouth in their affairs... Stop polluting the SW... How come it is only you that cry over mere issue? If anyone post on her facebook that her children will only marry Yoruba, it is your people that will be attacking the person... If person create a content in Yoruba language your people will be there on comment section saying not everyone understand Yoruba... Na by force?

Why are you wailing na. Why not favr your ibadan brothers that say they don't want tribalism in their state

zelnababa:
Dangote has right to hire and fire, did he borrow money from pengas saan to buit his company?

OK pengassan also have the right according to Nigeria's law to go on strike in response to what it perceives as injustice

asfrank:
Why not employ the sacked workers, if they are so wealthy?

Cho cho cho cho

zelnababa:
if a company employ you and said I don't want you to join union, you can as well resign and join the company who want union, is it compulsory for them to work at Dangote?

Was there an official communique from dangote to his workers that unionism is prohibited?