RichieMichie:



OK Goodluck. I'll be watching how the sand pans out, I can pick up ba thing or two hopefully from your work

Thanks. I hope you do.

Day 24

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https://youtube.com/shorts/3f_oAo9os1k?feature=share

Cantonese:


With due respect, have you tried a few birds out on free range without drugs?

Yes I have done that several times.
I have crossed noiler hen with local cocks, the result wasn't as big as noiler, but strong and meaty more than the local chicken.
I have done so many experiments on chicken. I'm working on Newcastle, so many people are saying it doesn't have cure, but I believe i can conquer Newcastle, I'm on it, but i couldn't continue cos I don't have the disease in my pen house

Redomi:
Yes I have done that several times.
I have crossed noiler hen with local cocks, the result wasn't as big as noiler, but strong and meaty more than the local chicken.
I have done so many experiments on chicken. I'm working on Newcastle, so many people are saying it doesn't have cure, but I believe i can conquer Newcastle, I'm on it, but i couldn't continue cos I don't have the disease in my pen house

Please Sir do you think it is wise to raise kuroilers for frozen chicken business??

Will their carcass be good for it??

Anticipating your reply!!

idrisaleo1:
More pictures.…....


We have sadly lost 3 birds some hours after their arrival....

Please Sir can one raise kuroilers for frozen chicken business?? And how many bags or kg of feed will they consume till maturity or for 3 months.

babavik:


Please Sir do you think it is wise to raise kuroilers for frozen chicken business??

Will their carcass be good for it??

Anticipating your reply!!

it is not business wise to raise Kuroilers for frozen, becusee their maturity takes 4-6 months, unlike broilers that will have enough meats for frozen at 5-7 weeks

Redomi:
it is not business wise to raise Kuroilers for frozen, becusee their maturity takes 4-6 months, unlike broilers that will have enough meats for frozen at 5-7 weeks

From what i have studied, they take 3months to reach 2.5 - 3kg, which is "fair"

What i don't know is how their carcass would be though i read they have equal distribution of meat unlike broilers that have more meat on the chest region.

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babavik:


Please Sir can one raise kuroilers for frozen chicken business?? And how many bags or kg of feed will they consume till maturity or for 3 months.

I think one can. You just have to find a way of reducing the expenses that go into feeding them. Free-ranging them, for example. It's best to raise them where you can easily do this. You'll just be worried with the morning feed and the rest, they scavenge on their own.

The one advantage they have got is their ability to lay fertile eggs. You can quickly increase your stock if you have access to an incubator. Raising them in large numbers and the opportunity to free-range will make it a viable business, a lot more you would get from both broilers and layers farming. I mean these are birds that can survive on their own with little or no support.

Even if you would be feeding twice a day from your pocket. They will still make a better business decision. As at Day 30, they finish a bag in two days. And they are just above 360. Once at Day 60, they will be finishing 1.5 bags in a day. I guess we are underfeeding them. If you have more resources, I would advise you budget more.

If 200 of those can lay at 60 per cent and you have an hatch rate of just 60 per cent as well. You will have 2160 birds in 30 days. 2160 * 390 = 842,400

babavik:


From what i have studied, they take 3months to reach 2.5 - 3kg, which is "fair"

What i don't know is how their carcass would be though i read they have equal distribution of meat unlike broilers that have more meat on the chest region.

I really don't think that should be a problem, I mean the distribution of meat. In some other countries, there are different chicken breeds in the stores, there's one called Superhuhn in Germany, it's just like our local fowls. Hardy, not as meaty but it sells as quickly as broilers. What I know is people will buy Kuroilers with better packaging. And if you can achieve 4-5 kilos live weight, the carcass should earn you something worthwhile. You can decide to sell the different parts to different customers sef.

We are 30 day old today......

https://youtube.com/shorts/qXoB5nVygy4?feature=share


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83lX2yd9FLE

idrisaleo1:


I really don't think that should be a problem, I mean the distribution of meat. In some other countries, there are different chicken breeds in the stores, there's one called Superhuhn in Germany, it's just like our local fowls. Hardy, not as meaty but it sells as quickly as broilers. What I know is people will buy Kuroilers with better packaging. And if you can achieve 4-5 kilos live weight, the carcass should earn you something worthwhile. You can decide to sell the different parts to different customers sef.

Thanks very much.

You know how the price of broilers keep going up so i decided to go for kuroilers. Unfortunately people will prefer broilers because of their broad chest even when they have smaller lap.

I have never seen a kuroiler carcass to see how broad the chest area looks like, so that keeps discouraging me. I won't like to breed/sale what people won't readily buy.

babavik:


Thanks very much.

You know how the price of broilers keep going up so i decided to go for kuroilers. Unfortunately people will prefer broilers because of their broad chest even when they have smaller lap.

I have never seen a kuroiler carcass to see how broad the chest area looks like, so that keeps discouraging me. I won't like to breed/sale what people won't readily buy.

It is a valid concern, but I believe people will buy it. I believe people prefer local chicken to broilers, and this kuroiler is just like our local breed.

Check out this packaging..

idrisaleo1:


It is a valid concern, but I believe people will buy it. I believe people prefer local chicken to broilers, and this kuroiler is just like our local breed.

Check out this packaging..

Very nice packaging.

Thanks though.

Do you scale them to know their weight?

If yes what is their weight at 6wks or 8wks??(if they are up)

babavik:


Very nice packaging.

Thanks though.

Do you scale them to know their weight?

If yes what is their weight at 6wks or 8wks??(if they are up)

This is not mine. Just giving you an example of what you could do.

DrDax:


All I know about poultry farming, I learned under duress.

My wife is a farmer. She raises broilers.

Zero mortality every set. Except for the usual one or two "abiku" among them

Rule of thumb:

1. Day Old Chicks only need water and vitamins for their first seven days. Add some antibiotics to the mix for good measure. The "abiku"s will return to their maker during this period. That's between two to three birds in a batch of 200. Good riddance! It saves you the cost of feed because they will still die in the future if they don't go in that first week. It is their destiny





In summary, mortality is not to be feared. Welcome it in the first week. But I guarantee you, your birds will hardly die at all if you follow protocol. Even "Abiku"s change their minds when they land in a good home

You are damn right Bwana and funny at the same time, thanks for the tip up

My noilers are about 20 weeks old now and I started feeding them layers feed some days ago, but I still haven'tseen any eggs. Why is that?

idrisaleo1:


Feels surreal. Can't wait to start hatching...4 months to go ��

Eminel:
My noilers are about 20 weeks old now and I started feeding them layers feed some days ago, but I still haven'tseen any eggs. Why is that?

It's five to six months on the average. It'll come.

Can someone help with organic treatment with the right dosage, please?

Hello here

Interesting read.

God's speed.

Redomi:
Hello here

Hello boss. These Kuroilers wan finish their papa o. I don't know they eat like this o.

P.s if you want to raise over 100 Kuroilers, kindly do that where they can free-range o. They can finish you o if you are a struggling guy like myself.

jidestroud:
Interesting read.

God's speed.

Thanks boss. Your face shine.

I tried making my own feeds some days ago. Bought the following:

Maize 2 bags = 20k per bag
Soya 1bag = 32k per bag
Fish meal 32 kg = #800 per kg
Limestone 38kg = #55 per kg
Methionine 200g = #600
Lysine 400g =#800
Transport n milling = 8600 + 3000
Roasting = 5k

I no buy wheat bran/maize bran. The total kg I got was 338 or thereabout, what they told me. We were able to get just 12 bags of (25kg feeds) plus 9kg. In short, it wasn't an economically wise decision as I spent over 120k on the feed. That could get me 16 bags of starters @7500. None of those bags gave us 100 kg feed, I mean maize and soya o.


This business isn't easy doing it from a far cos not so many people are willing to help you. Everybody wants to drain you of whatever they can possibly get.

If you know where I can get industrial feed in Ilorin at a cheaper rate than that, please mention it. I won't give you no one naira, so dont even start. Tell me for the sake of God and I can direct whoever thinking of ripping me apart to the place. Thank you.

And I'm spending too much on antibiotics and multivitamins. I would appreciate an organic solution (I.e with the right formula) that can help save my birds from all the popular diseases.

idrisaleo1:


Hello boss. These Kuroilers wan finish their papa o. I don't know they eat like this o.

P.s if you want to raise over 100 Kuroilers, kindly do that where they can free-range o. They can finish you o if you are a struggling guy like myself.

I dey tell you, all birds eat massively if they have access to feed.
BTW, my frizzle that was brooding some eggs hatched 1 noiler and 1 turkey eggs, she will start hatching the naked neck eggs from Sunday.
I plan to remove the hatched chicks and give her another 15 naked neck eggs for just 21 days

idrisaleo1:
We are 30 day old today......

https://youtube.com/shorts/qXoB5nVygy4?feature=share


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83lX2yd9FLE

WHOA! That's a lot of birds. I like that they're very active/healthy. Kudos.

Eminel:
My noilers are about 20 weeks old now and I started feeding them layers feed some days ago, but I still haven'tseen any eggs. Why is that?

You don't start feeding them layer feed till more than half of them start laying.

From my experience, they start laying around 18-20 weeks old. If at 20 weeks they haven't started laying, it means you probably didn't feed them well growing up. Maybe you were shortfeeding them, or mixing their feed, or they were seriously sick at a point. If you feed them starter from 0 to 8 weeks, and commenced grower feed afterwards, they should lay at the appropriate time...18-20 weeks.

idrisaleo1:


It's five to six months on the average. It'll come.

6 months ke? That's 24 weeks. As a first timer in 2016, with very little experience, my first set of Noilers started laying at 18 weeks. And from experience, anything that causes them not to lay at 20 weeks means they weren't fed properly.

idrisaleo1:


Hello boss. These Kuroilers wan finish their papa o. I don't know they eat like this o.

P.s if you want to raise over 100 Kuroilers, kindly do that where they can free-range o. They can finish you o if you are a struggling guy like myself.

HAHAHAHA! I told you this a couple of weeks ago. From experience, those birds almost finished me. And me I was raising just 100. The next time I raised 50 after that experience, I made sure I had 5 bags down from the start.

olab059:


WHOA! That's a lot of birds. I like that they're very active/healthy. Kudos.

Thanks boss. As we changed their feed sha, they became really weak o. Don't know what we are going to do with our own formulated feed. Money weh no de don go...

We don go back to chikun starter.