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Okija_juju: Again, I dont give a &^%# how you feel about whatever I say.

All I am gunning for is the true factual story of what went down. And I have repeatedly said I dont justify her beating, however I want to know the truth.

Is asking for the truth a bad thing!!

Fhucking sentimental cry babies.. Okija dosent dwell on sentiments. Know that now.

tonte: I sincerely doubt this...no officer will conduct himself in this manner, and no ratings can just go about shooting bullets that will be accounted for...get ur facts very very correctly before concluding

tnktosin: @ Okija_juju, I've lived in sapele long enough to know what these naval guys can do, they would beat you to pulp over the slightest provocation. The lady in question i know too, and she's not the type to insult customers over nothing; all she does is sit and watch. Till date, Mess 20 is my fav joint for banga soup and starch whenever i visit that town.
The Naval logistics centre has been moved from sapele to oghara and the okada men in oghara has had their own taste of navy presence, until they were called to order recently.
given their track record, I believe those guys just did what they always do OPPRESS just that this time, they're in for a looooong thing.

aribisala0: Shut up there Enwe!
Is that how to ask for truth?
No one cares about you either but if you come here talking shit expect what you get!
Right back at your mother hopefully someone successfully chops off her leg so you are not in doubt!

Okija_juju: She shouldnt have fhucked with the Navy...

This case is as good as dead on arrival.

She can't identify the officers who committed the offence, so what does she expect the Navy to do?

MORAL LESSON: Choose your battles wisely...

tonte: I sincerely doubt this...no officer will conduct himself in this manner, and no ratings can just go about shooting bullets that will be accounted for...get ur facts very very correctly before concluding

tnktosin: @ Okija_juju, I've lived in sapele long enough to know what these naval guys can do, they would beat you to pulp over the slightest provocation. The lady in question i know too, and she's not the type to insult customers over nothing; all she does is sit and watch. Till date, Mess 20 is my fav joint for banga soup and starch whenever i visit that town.
The Naval logistics centre has been moved from sapele to oghara and the okada men in oghara has had their own taste of navy presence, until they were called to order recently.
given their track record, I believe those guys just did what they always do [OPPRESS], just that this time, they're in for a looooong thing.

mapet: Okija_juju's suggestion may sound harsh, but I think wisdom lies there in. I think a lesson for us all is that it is better to be safe first. Unfortunately she can't identify any of the supposed Naval personnel (who knows if there are not even Naval personnel)

I think when confronted with such situation, especially in ones place of business, we should try as much as possible to placat mad customers, so they don't forment trouble. We end up being the ultimate looser

Let me share a personal experience.

My wife and I ran a factory. One day I received a call that the factory attendant was in the police station. He had a fight with a customer, who wanted to take goods claiming he'd paid when he'd not (this was in Ajelogo market b4 government leveled it. Ajelogo/Akanimado area was a big time slum and we had issues with boys with ridiculous excuse to defraud us)

Fight ensued, my attendant (an Hausa) beat us the customer; the boy's mother came to make trouble, could not overpower my attendant......before we knew what was happening, my attendant was in Police cell in Mile12, while the customer was not detained.

What counted against him was the Hausa factor. The Police did not want to hear any of his explanation, despite the fact that he was attacked first (He being Hausa was came guilty by default)

We spent money to secure his release and close the case. Then I told him - WHY DID YOU FIGHT? For a dispute of less than 1k, we spent almost 5, and this was because my father-in-law has some police connections......

I think we should try as much as possible to avoid confrontation in our place of business, as much as we can. Getting into altercation, insisting that she won't sell food to them and insulting the supposed navy guy and the wife, despite the fact that they were on her turf, is not the smart thing to do...

my 2 cents

mapet: Okija_juju's suggestion may sound harsh, but I think wisdom lies there in. I think a lesson for us all is that it is better to be safe first. Unfortunately she can't identify any of the supposed Naval personnel (who knows if there are not even Naval personnel)

I think when confronted with such situation, especially in ones place of business, we should try as much as possible to placat mad customers, so they don't forment trouble. We end up being the ultimate looser

Let me share a personal experience.

My wife and I ran a factory. One day I received a call that the factory attendant was in the police station. He had a fight with a customer, who wanted to take goods claiming he'd paid when he'd not (this was in Ajelogo market b4 government leveled it. Ajelogo/Akanimado area was a big time slum and we had issues with boys with ridiculous excuse to defraud us)

Fight ensued, my attendant (an Hausa) beat us the customer; the boy's mother came to make trouble, could not overpower my attendant......before we knew what was happening, my attendant was in Police cell in Mile12, while the customer was not detained.

What counted against him was the Hausa factor. The Police did not want to hear any of his explanation, despite the fact that he was attacked first (He being Hausa was came guilty by default)

We spent money to secure his release and close the case. Then I told him - WHY DID YOU FIGHT? For a dispute of less than 1k, we spent almost 5, and this was because my father-in-law has some police connections......

I think we should try as much as possible to avoid confrontation in our place of business, as much as we can. Getting into altercation, insisting that she won't sell food to them and insulting the supposed navy guy and the wife, despite the fact that they were on her turf, is not the smart thing to do...

my 2 cents

Okija_juju: Fianlly, someone gets the point!!

THE MORAL LESSON explained it all... Choose your battles wisely!! CHIKINA!

Okija_juju: Thank you!!

You are the first character witness for the victim... Now I can say I am leaning more towards believing her version of events.. However, it would still be nice to hear from a client who was there at the time and also the Naval guy involved..

Guy an axe was involve o!! Do you know how angry you would have to be with someone to want to decapitate and kill the preson?! She could have bleed to death!!

I still feel the story is incomplete..





This is the part where the conversation breaks down... I wonder why I ever thought you were worth the effort.

fm7070: Okija_juju: She shouldnt have fhucked with the Navy...

This case is as good as dead on arrival.

She can't identify the officers who committed the offence, so what does she expect the Navy to do?

MORAL LESSON: Choose your battles wisely...

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@Okija_juju.
You're such a despecable m0ron, your thinking is too poor
It's the woman today, it may be your mother or your wife tomorrow
I have watched a video where a young lady was actually slapping hitting a soldier (in India)
What the hell is wrong with our own military guys
Police is killing people wrecklessly. This Boko-Haram issue arose from police extra-judicial killing
Navy is doing their own
God will save us in this country

Why did you call me a Mor0n sir?!
How rich is your thinking sir?!
Did you even think at all sir?!
Can you even think sir?!
Is this India sir?!
I have lived in Ghana where there is 24hrs light, whats wrong with our Electricity company?!! I have driven in London where there are no potholes, Whats wrong with our Works & Maintanance depaartment?!
Nigga, If you had an iota of sense, you would have noticed that post was very wise. Too wise for r'etards to fathom.
Everybody knows that MEN IN UNIFROM in Nigeria are arseholes. Even LASTMA thats not even an armed force sef are arseholes.. I have seen riots in Russia where people hurled Molotov cocktails at the approaching Police line... Would you try that in Nigeria?! O.K sir, try slapping a Mopol. Or even holding his shirt.. Even a child knows you dont aggravate them, they are animals and to make matters worse, armed.
I said the case was dead on arrival because the first problem is She has no names.. How do you prosecute a case against nobody?!!
And if you dont think that you should choose your battles wisely, then I dont think your problem is just being a M0ron, you prolly are also dyslexic.

My advice is for you to understand what you read before rushing off to make a mockery of yourself. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Fhucking imp!

aribisala0: Did Ojukwu choose his battles wisely
Or was he right to fight for his principles?
According to your logic intensity of anger and ferocity of attack reflect the degree of provocation by the victim. So thousands of Igbos were killed by rampaging abokis and lots more by Federal troops. God they must have been really angry!! Maybe the story is incomplete.....,.....,..

Okija_juju: [font=Comic Sans Ms][color=#990000]I was gonna curse you out.. But whats the point?! Its takes alot more than youve got to know the difference between sentiments and objectivity. You may wanna go back, read that story and now try to imagine what actually happened. Dont forget that this version is from the victim and she would always make herself appear blameless. That also dosent mean I justify her being beaten.. If you had calmly read my earlier post, you would have noticed it.

blink182: Obviously you don't have a job, a girlfriend, a family, anything at all to distract you. I heard this story the very day it happened. I do not know the woman on a personal level but I do know her. Her story is exactly what I was told. I am not judging from internet story and so not sentimental.


Please go get a life, hire a sex worker if need be.

Okija_juju: Bloody w'anker!

You heard the same story does not make it the true story.

What a numb skull.

Your Herpes you got from pros'titutes is prolly eating up your brain cells. Im glad I am yet to get a life, sadly yours is coming to an end.

blink182: When elements of lies start getting into a story, variation occur. You should have been wise enough to know an eye witness told me.

Being foul mouthed changes nothing, dude, you need help. If you need a job I could help....no wait...not a raving m. ad dog like you. Don't want any of my friends infected with rabbies

Okija_juju: Now everybody knows somebody who was there when it happened..

Nigerians.. Una no dey ever fall my hand..

Oya tell me how many slap the person chop!!

blink182: Will you slap yourself if I upload pictures of the shop today?

Okija_juju: Nobody is in doubt that the store or shop was trashed by the Navy!! But pictures wouldnt hurt either.
Dude, I dont think a man would lose his mind like that over a simple scenario such as was described in the story. Its hard to accept.

Okija_juju: Nobody is in doubt that the store or shop was trashed by the Navy!! But pictures wouldnt hurt either.
Dude, I dont think a man would lose his mind like that over a simple scenario such as was described in the story. Its hard to accept.

ndukwejoe: The woman in the picture is MRS. EVELYN WILKIE, the owner of "MEZ 20" an eatery in Sapele. About 3 weeks ago one Sunday evening at about 9.00pm, a couple walked into the eatery and asked to be served food and the man warned the attendant not to sell soured soup to them in the full glare of other customers. MRS. WILKIE answered that she does not sell soured food as the place is a decent place.
The woman responded that she should not insult her husband. There and then MRS. WILKIE told them that they wont sell food to them as she does not want people who would spoil her business. The woman started insulting her.
A female customer who was in the place answered and told them that they are disturbing the peace of the place and this earned her a slap and she retaliated, then a
fi
ght ensued and other customers separated them. The man was infurated and started threatening MRS. WILKIE that he had been embarrassed and that they are Naval Officers.
The woman rushed to their car which is a space wagon and brought out a canister of tear gas which she used to tear gas the whole place and other customers ran out for their safety. Then the couple left. Unknown to MRS. WILKIE they went to re-enforce. At about to 10pm the couple returned with about 10 Naval Officers in uniform and they started shooting sporadically to scare residents they forced their way through the padlocked protector and gave the staff the beating of their life and brought out and even broke the head of her security man.
MRS. WILKIE was brought out from where she was hid and the man who said he was embarrassed took an axe and said he would use her as a scape goat. He swung the axe at her and it hit her ankle and chopped it off. Seeing the mayhem they have caused they all left. It was good Nigerians that took her to the Hospital and it took the skills of an orthopaedic surgeon to put her in this shape that you see in the picture.
The matter has been reported to the Naval authorities in Sapele and the woman identified but the others have not been identified. I am told that investigations are still ongoing.
Now that we know the story, what can we do to ensure that this woman get the justice that she deserves.
Thank you for your concern. It is this woman now, it could be anybody's turn tomorrow so let us condemn it and ensure that this madness stops.

blink182: Yeah its hard to accept but that seems to be the only story flying around town. So many people can not be wrong.

Okija_juju: You'll be shocked how fast a lie can spread.

aribisala0: Your words are wise but not everyone is the same.It is alway easy to be wise after the event.
Humans are not all the same and see things differently. The woman has every right to refuse to sell to unruly customer and it is the duty of government to protect her rights. THAT is the essence of DEMOCRACY.To paraphrase Mandela; the chains or whip on my sisters back is a chain or whip on my back.

Many of our fathers kept quiet during IBB's government but people like Gani Fawehinmi and Beko Ransome-Kuti spoke. Gani felt that if he could not talk he was already dead and so he was not afraid of IBB's death.
The issue here is not about what the woman did or did not do morally but about
THE RULE OF LAW IN OUR COUNTRY.

Did the woman break the law?
How does she get justice?
Those are the issues.

The reason why we are talking here is because we want this sort of thing to STOP unless you are suggesting that this is normal and we should just accept it and carry on. Why did we not accept colonialism ? why did we fight till the white men left. Even then I am sure there were some Nigerians who would say Ah I don't want Oyinbo to kill me it is better for them to continue than for me to die. or as you would say "BETTER TO BE SAFE FIRST". I[b]f everyone was like that Oyinbo would still be ruling South Africa today![/b]
This issue is very much bigger than that woman and it pains me people do not see this.

Yes everyone knows you do not argue when an armed robber points a gun in your face but does that mean we must accept armed robbery in our society or fight it?
This is not about what the woman should or should not have done but
What to do about the Navy.
We are told at least ONE of them has been apprehended.It really will not be difficult to get the rest!

mapet: This is a case of what is expedient, IMO. I do not disagree with your point at all and I empathize with the woman.

I know a lot about the military. My immediate Senior brother is an officer in the Army. I know what they are capable of and what the limits are as well. These guys are at best Naval Ratings. A Naval officer will not condisend so low, to go and bring other ratings becos of a beer parlour fight. These ratings are near illiterates. The damage would have been done, even before officers can control them

We definitely will fight this ills, the rule of law crusade will never extinguish; but not at the expense of threat to life if we can avoid it.

I have learnt to deal with situations like the