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You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by dadde(m): 8:24am On Aug 10, 2012
The Federal Government Thursday said it would take steps to abolish indigeneship clause in the country’s laws to put an end to the crisis and rancour associated with the dichotomy of non-indigenes and settlers scourge in the country.

The Special Adviser to the President on Political Affairs, Alhaji Ahmed Gulak, spoke on the new policy thrust when he received in audience leaders of the National Peace Forum, led by Senator Sunday Fajinmi.

He said: “Federal government is proposing the abrogation of non-indigenes hip or dichotomy of non settlers as a means of putting an end to the issue in every part of the country. No meaningful achievement can be made without peace.”

He said the President has this week waded into the crisis in Plateau State by convening a peace meeting with leaders of the North-east zone to explore how to find a lasting solution to the problem.

According to him, insecurity situation in the country has become a national problem and all hands must be on deck to maintain peace and unity in the country.

“It does not speak well of us to make utterances emphasising what divides us. It is in this vein that this government is so committed towards achieving peaceful co-existence,” he said.

The Adviser, who also met with several other groups Thursday, who were on peace and solidarity visit to the President, alleged that there were some people who wanted to see Nigeria disintegrate or degenerate into anarchy.

He expressed concern over the unguarded utterances of some leaders and urged Nigerians to ignore calls for disintegration of the nation.

Earlier, Fajinmi said the Forum had many prominent Nigerians as members, including Senator M.T. Mbu, Senator John Damboye, former Senate President, Dr. Joseph Wayas, Ambassador Yusuf Maitama, Governor Rochas Okoroacha of Imo State and Justice Maman Nasiru.

He said the visit was to see how the group could partner the Federal Government in order to address the insecurity challenges in the country.

“If there is anything that we can do in the normal traditional peace-making ways, we can come in as non-governmental organisation to assist in appealing to our people and appease them to make sure that we can all live together as one people,” he said.

The Special Adviser said the group had initiated peace moves to the hot-bed of the violent crisis in Borno and Bauchi States and was hopeful that something meaningful would come out of it when eventually the country becomes peaceful.

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Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by KiKatanga: 8:27am On Aug 10, 2012
Good.

If Nigeria is going to be one country, you have to be either Nigerian or not none of this indigen/tribalist/racist nonsense.
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by Acidosis(m): 8:34am On Aug 10, 2012
ha! The beginning of another brand new crisis.

Now everybody can claim Lagos. .
Definitely, its just a passive and an irrational opinion.

What happens to Traditional and chieftaincy tiers, how about the Local government? ?

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Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by dadde(m): 8:36am On Aug 10, 2012
it is a great idea i think. but it was this same leaders that separated us. we have a long way to go if this must actually come to fruition. if we are united by tribe how about religion?
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by Kobojunkie: 8:39am On Aug 10, 2012
I will wait till it happens to rejoice. Here's hoping this includes the State of Origin requirement.

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Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by Biggyd2: 8:42am On Aug 10, 2012
That will be great. But we all know that there is sometimes a very big difference between the law in the book and the living law. NL for instance is a good example of how ethnicity and tribalism have eaten deep into Nigerians.
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by KiKatanga: 8:45am On Aug 10, 2012
Acidosis: ha! The beginning of another brand new crisis.

Now everybody can claim Lagos. .
Definitely, its just a passive and an irrational opinion.

What happens to Traditional and chieftaincy tiers, how about the Local government? ?

If everyone claims Lagos, the chieftaincy and traditional will fall apart like they should have years ago.

Tribal chiefs should be for ceremonies and nothing more.

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Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by dadde(m): 9:16am On Aug 10, 2012
I THINK SOME SECTS ARE LOOSING IN THE BATTLE FOR GRAZING LANDS . THIS EXPLAIN THE REASON FOR THE PROPOSED ABROGATION OF INDIGENSHIP.
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by KiKatanga: 9:42am On Aug 10, 2012
Do we really need people to have grazing lands? Are we going to remain a nation of herdsmen?
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by geeez: 9:45am On Aug 10, 2012
Great idea!

Yorubas can now claim Anambra, Imo, Enugu, Abia and Ebonyi

Let's go there!
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by belovedaja(m): 10:26am On Aug 10, 2012
it is a good idea but a begining of another round of crisis. Ethnicity is embedded in us and step must be taken address the cause of ethnic distrust FIRST.
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by KiKatanga: 10:45am On Aug 10, 2012
belovedaja: it is a good idea but a begining of another round of crisis. Ethnicity is embedded in us and step must be taken address the cause of ethnic distrust FIRST.

No, as long as people are pinned to their state, their ethnicities will be divergent. Once they start to travel and inter-mingle they'll begin to realise the stupidity of their prejudices.
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by dadde(m): 11:12am On Aug 10, 2012
the political class has always been the source discord in the country. i took us over 100 years to get to the mess we are now. i hope we would be wise enough to put an end to it sooner than expected.

ethnicity almost destroyed Bosnia Herzegovina. we should wake up b4 Nigeria becomes history.

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Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by dadde(m): 11:58am On Aug 10, 2012
THESE ARE SENSITIVE NATIONAL ISSUES. I DONT KNOW WHY ITS NOT ON FRONT THE PAGE
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by sambas: 12:14pm On Aug 10, 2012
God bless gej real good, i can now claim RIVERS-State ;DGod bless gej real good, i can now claim RIVERS-State grin
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by PapaBrowne(m): 12:16pm On Aug 10, 2012
While it sounds like a good deal, it will benefit only one segment of the country. If this bill would allow Igbos and Yorubas in Sokoto to establish businesses and churches where they deem free as well as allow Fulani herdsmen purchase land (commercial pricing) for grazing anywhere they deem free then that would be fine.
But if it designed only to allow a section of the country access to greener areas, then it would only serve as an accessory to more and more violence.
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by KiKatanga: 12:30pm On Aug 10, 2012
PapaBrowne: While it sounds like a good deal, it will benefit only one segment of the country. If this bill would allow Igbos and Yorubas in Sokoto to establish businesses and churches where they deem free as well as allow Fulani herdsmen purchase land (commercial pricing) for grazing anywhere they deem free then that would be fine.
But if it designed only to allow a section of the country access to greener areas, then it would only serve as an accessory to more and more violence.

What is needed is not the right to claim to be an indigen anywhere, but the abolition of indegen laws.
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by PaulJohn1: 2:12pm On Aug 10, 2012
grin grin And now, a core Northerner can be a governor in Imo, Anambra, Lagos, Osun and the likes grin grin
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by canuck(m): 2:33pm On Aug 10, 2012
Paul John: grin grin And now, a core Northerner can be a governor in Imo, Anambra, Lagos, Osun and the likes grin grin

An Igbo (Ben Akabueze) is one of the most powerful Commissioners in Lagos, so we are getting there.

@OP: A good idea, but the brash manner of announcing it without any form of consultation shows it is dead-on-arrival.

FG should lead by junking "Federal Character" in employment and promotion in Civil Service, Police, Military, etc.

After 3-5 years of doing so at the FG level and dealing with the backlash, we can then adopt it as a country.


Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by Dainfamous: 2:36pm On Aug 10, 2012
f****k that, is not gona work,how?
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by maclatunji: 4:19pm On Aug 10, 2012
The Federal Government is stealing the idea. It was one of Buhari/Bakare's campaign promises for the 2011 Presidential election. They should give credit where it is due.tongue
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by Nobody: 4:25pm On Aug 10, 2012
So what quota system will the Nigeria Defence Academy employ now? undecided
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by tpia5: 4:29pm On Aug 10, 2012
if this is going to create an imbalance in certain regions (eg the southwest which everybody wants to claim), then the govt needs to think this stuff through properly.

make sure there's an even number of claims across the country, not just everybody claiming sw and nobody claiming any where else.

eg sw- 20 million claims, other parts of nigeria- 1000 claims. undecided

just saying.

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Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by maclatunji: 4:31pm On Aug 10, 2012
tpia@:
if this is going to create an imbalance in certain regions (eg the southwest which everybody wants to claim), then the govt needs to think this stuff through properly.

make sure there's an even number of claims across the country, not just everybody claiming sw and nobody claiming any where else.

eg sw- 20 million claims, other parts of nigeria- 1000 claims. undecided

just saying.

Preference will be given to residents. The change will not be as big as some people imagine.
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by tpia5: 4:36pm On Aug 10, 2012
well, if everybody is headed to the sw, then the govt needs to pump money there to cater for the increased presence.

develop the infrastructure, etc.

build a metro system to cope with transportation demands and clogged roads.

increase security and swiftly send criminals back to their places of origin. undecided
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by jmaine: 4:51pm On Aug 10, 2012
More like a double edged proposal . . .very delicate intrigues abound if not thoroughly designed . . .
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by KiKatanga: 4:53pm On Aug 10, 2012
tpia@:
well, if everybody is headed to the sw, then the govt needs to pump money there to cater for the increased presence.

develop the infrastructure, etc.

build a metro system to cope with transportation demands and clogged roads.

increase security and swiftly send criminals back to their places of origin. undecided

Don't send people to their places of origin, build federal prisons with money from all states. If you separate people they stay separate.
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by tpia5: 4:59pm On Aug 10, 2012
build federal prisons where?

in the states of origin?

not sure i get your comment about separating people.

explain further, plz. undecided
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by KiKatanga: 5:18pm On Aug 10, 2012
tpia@:
build federal prisons where?

in the states of origin?

not sure i get your comment about separating people.

explain further, plz. undecided

It doesn't matter where: if an American from California commits a Federal crime in Tennessee he might be incarcerated in Pennsylvania. That's how life should be. If you want people in Nigeria to feel like Nigerians, rather than as someone from Edo or Ebonyi, you have to treat them the same wherever they are from.

You cannot try to remove some sectarian barriers but not others.
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by engrtee(f): 5:33pm On Aug 10, 2012
Even if i am given a milion dollar, i wunt b an indigen of bornostate
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by KiKatanga: 5:37pm On Aug 10, 2012
engrtee: Even if i am given a milion dollar, i wunt b an indigen of bornostate
^^^This person is a barrier.
Re: You Can Now Claim To Be An Indigen Of Any State. by PaulJohn1: 5:37pm On Aug 10, 2012
Ki-Katanga:


It doesn't matter where: if an American from California commits a Federal crime in Tennessee he might be incarcerated in Pennsylvania. That's how life should be. If you want people in Nigeria to feel like Nigerians, rather than as someone from Edo or Ebonyi, you have to treat them the same wherever they are from.

You cannot try to remove some sectarian barriers but not others.

You're correct. If they're serious about this, everyone has to be treated with fairness. Not some people claiming omo onile and the likes.

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