Delafruita:
thats part of their prayer and over the years i have sorta adapted to it.it even serves as my alarm clock sometimes.however the new trend nowadays is for christians,who obviously cant afford to rent a shop for their "ministry",to buy a megaphone,awake early in the day and go on preaching sprees.

Delafruita: however the new trend nowadays is for christians,who obviously cant afford to rent a shop for their "ministry",to buy a megaphone,awake early in the day and go on preaching sprees.

naija2much: @delafruita, don't be a fanatic, both the muslims and christians have their excesses. Do they threaten to bomb u if u go and worship your God? Do they-5 times a day make loud noises while praying to their god who probably aint hearing properly? Do they threaten to severe ties of blood with u if you leave their religion? Do they promise to make the country ungovernable(I'm sure this you will defend)? Do they promise to chain the country by a so-called sharia law?do they bomb people without a cause? Do they cover the neighborhoods begging for alms? About christians who can't afford 'shops', I've seen muslims with their mats, under the bridge, in the refuse dumb, in motor parks, I guess they couldn't afford 'shops', so they can fare well in open space, under bridges so long they could wash their...

Mr_Anony: THE QUESTION: Assuming you came to find out that God exists and you found it to true beyond every reasonable doubt such that it is common knowledge amongst everyone, will you submit to God's rule?

Please answer honestly.

sbm4real: Only a fool will say in his heart that there is no God.
The air we breathe just seems to have the right composition of gases or whatever makes it up...how did that come about?

Your arteries, veins and general body system just seems to be perfectly connected..how did that come about? Science? Or what explanation do you guys have for that?

The sun shines in the day and the moon by night..who set that in place? Science or humans?

Our very existence..the feelings of hatred, love, jealousy..etc, science put all that in man?

There is a God in heaven and He rules in the affairs of man...

plaetton: He he.
If is determined that god really exists. Then good, no problems.
As for me, common sense would tell me that where one exists,there must be others as well. Even the bible clearly and unambiguously states as such.
So it becomes a matter of which of the gods rule.

Reading the bible, I can clearly see that these so-called gods make very terrible rulers.
We humans have come a long way in running our own affairs and although we have made terrible mistakes along the way, we have made great progress.

Today We now espouse and enforced moral and ethical codes that promote fundamental human rights and dignity, far far above the moral thresholds of gods,mythical or real, of bygone eras.
It would be tragically stupid and a regression to surrender our hard won sovereignty to any god at this point in our evolution.

Infact, I think God or the gods, would probably be pleased at how much we have matured and would not display the kind of despotic tendencies that religious people have been made to expect from him/them.

So to answer the question, the answer is absolutely not.

In case one does not understand atheism, atheists are people who have achieved mental sovereignty.
I dont know any atheists that are willing and ready to surrender the power and freedom to think and question.
Democracy is here to stay.

wiegraf: Bump
@anony, come and finish this

Uyi Iredia:

@ bolded I beg to differ. Atheists are normal people and can't have been said to achieve mental sovereignty anywhere or anyhow. In fact they display crass ignorance in being blind to the evidence for God's existence - the universe.

MacDaddy01:


Ignorance is a disease.

Please read;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_evolution
http://astroversity..co.uk/2007/06/explained-big-bang-universe.html

dekung: @sbm4real,
Conscience and the concept of right or wrong has nothing to do with the existence of god, absolutely nothing. Rather they are functions of your cultural upbring as well as the environment in which you were raised. In some cultures if women go arround bare chested or have more than one husband it is a taboo however such things are normal everyday occurence in others. If you were a muslim and you mistakenly ate pork you would feel you have committed a sacriledge but if you were a christian you wont even think twice. In some cultures a married woman can elope with another man if she isnt happy with her current husband whereas it strictly forbiden in others. You conscience will only prick because of preconcievd ideas of what is right and what is not and whenever you cross the line you feel bad that you have done something wrong.

sbm4real:

Thanks for your post but you have only answered one part of my question..there are other parts to it...in response to your submission on conscience and culture, why do babies pretend,lie and come up with different vices at such tender ages? Is that part of culture too? Aren't they too young to learn our preconceived ideas? I think there's a nature in man that knows between good and evil right from birth..

What about the perfection of the body system? DNA contains detailed coded information just like a computer program..that's d work of some man or evolution? The source of life in its self..the distance between the sun and the earth is perfect, if more or less, its catastrophic..is that science too?

Once again you need to forgive my ignorance but I don't see any reason yet why I should believe there's no God that set things in order...

If you or Macdaddy can answer all my questions and point to me that there is no God, I will appreciate

My regards..

MacDaddy01:


The universe is proof of God? Wow, you keep showing your ignorance.

Uyi Iredia:

The only ignoramus here is you. So how can something come from nothing ? How ?

MacDaddy01:

define "nothing"

Ihedinobi:

lolololollllzzzz.....typical Logicboy. Define "nothing" indeed. Lol

Uyi Iredia:

The only ignoramus here is you. So how can something come from nothing ? How ?

Mr_Anony: I'm just taking a poll: All you have to do is answer yes or no. You don't have to explain your answer.

THE QUESTION: Assuming you came to find out that God exists and you found it to true beyond every reasonable doubt such that it is common knowledge amongst everyone, will you submit to God's rule?

Please answer honestly.

plaetton: He he.
If is determined that god really exists. Then good, no problems.
As for me, [size=15pt]common sense would tell me that where one exists,there must be others as well.[/size] Even the bible clearly and unambiguously states as such.
So it becomes a matter of which of the gods rule.

Reading the bible, I can clearly see that these so-called gods make very terrible rulers.
We humans have come a long way in running our own affairs and although we have made terrible mistakes along the way, we have made great progress.

Today We now espouse and enforced moral and ethical codes that promote fundamental human rights and dignity, far far above the moral thresholds of gods,mythical or real, of bygone eras.
It would be tragically stupid and a regression to surrender our hard won sovereignty to any god at this point in our evolution.

Infact, I think God or the gods, would probably be pleased at how much we have matured and would not display the kind of despotic tendencies that religious people have been made to expect from him/them.

So to answer the question, the answer is absolutely not.

In case one does not understand atheism, atheists are people who have achieved mental sovereignty.
I dont know any atheists that are willing and ready to surrender the power and freedom to think and question.
Democracy is here to stay.

dekung:
If something cannot come from nothing then what did God come from? Nothing or He just existed all by himself? If you can believe that God existed by himself out of nothing then why is it hard to believe the Universe probably existed by itself