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Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by BigB11(m): 3:27pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
Why Ribadu must go, by Col Umar Former Military Governor of old Kaduna State, Col. Abubakar Dangiwa Umar (rtd) has stirred further controversy on the redeployment of Mallam Nuhu Ribadu as Chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC). http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2008/jan/03/national-03-01-2008-001.htm |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by ndubest(m): 3:45pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
He is just saying his mind i think as a citizen he has the right to express his views thats should not stirr any controversy afterall he is not in government or holding political postions |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by BigB11(m): 3:50pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
And his view also happens to be very accurate and sincere! |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by Backslider(m): 4:20pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
Big1 You are talking on both sides of your Mouth. We will know who is corrupt. If it is Umar I know that served in the Army wether it was the mechanised Division or Amphibious cant recollect now. I am not sure it is him. Or May be it is the whole decoy. If Obj is Corrupt ribadu would have said so. Ribadu is not Afraid to die like some of us chickens for what we will eat. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by BigB11(m): 4:26pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
backslider, please remain in Ghana because you're absolutely not making any sense. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by doyin13(m): 4:28pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
Umar is amongst those crop of officers who think with a few courses abroad and polished English they gain some sort of intellectual credence.(I would know---------I grew up with the military) He and the rest of his military cohorts who keep reappearing like some houdini act in this dispensation are shameless. They lost all moral authority to speak authoritatively on Democracy after their long stint in denying the country for two decades. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by babasin(m): 4:29pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
Umar is respected fellow. He says his mind always. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by doyin13(m): 4:35pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
babasin: That he is respected, I think says more about us, more than it does about his qualities. Nigerians as a constituency are akin to Turkeys who would vote for Christmas. A most suicidal lot |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by BigB11(m): 4:46pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
Even if Umar was a crack head, he still has rights to express how he feels and point out defectiveness of any institutions in Nigeria, especially the ones that handle Fed govt daily activities. If anyone has a bright idea to elevate this nation, I think we should welcome the idea regardless of where it is coming from. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by linuxuser(m): 4:58pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
"Umar is respected fellow. He says his mind always." Who respects him? The only people that can respect him are people like you that does not have any respect for the truth. Umar lacks any credibility as far the masses and lovers of truth is concerned. Like I said before and will repeat again, People, colleagues around Ribadu attests to his honesty and truthfullness. I have not heard this said concerning You, Big B1 - as an apostle of Umar, IBB, Atiku, Ibori and the rest of the enemies of people of Nigeria. Is this the idiot they say will lead EFCC? What a garbage. May he (Umar) perish in Hell with his supporters. May God Grant Ribadu strength and favour. Amen!!! |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by doyin13(m): 5:06pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
Big B1: With due respect, it is because we have been ruled by crackhead despots that we find ourselves in this malaise in the first place. There comes a time when we should decide that some voices are simply worthless, discredited and ultimately disrespectful to us that they keep opening their voice boxes. Away with the old, in with the new-----------------------------------and all that malarkey |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by akpanbaba: 6:28pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
BIG B1,iam sorry for u ,it seems you are so carried away by the views of ex-military men like your master IBB and now UMAR. it seems you celebrate people who want to gain relevance in the society after being jobless for sometimes.Umar is a very bad critic but i think that people like Umar who came into limelight by way of coup should be careful in making statement.it is my opinion that people who served under IBB should not make any comment about corruption because that regime was a disaster and his boss is the father of modern corruption in Nigeria.i dont know what Umar contributed toward the building of nigeria as a military officer,but i know Ribadu though not an angel has cotributed immensely. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by linuxuser(m): 6:46pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
i don't know what Umar contributed toward the building of nigeria as a military officer,but i know Ribadu though not an angel has cotributed immensely. by akpanbaba Akpanbana, Thanks for this. Let these apostles of IBB, Atiku, Umar tell us what they have achieved for Nigeria. Instead of answering the question they will only be babling and talking about what Ribadu did not do perfectly. The only thing I have seen IBB, Atiku, Umar and the rest of the thieves do perfectly is to steal shamefully with absolute perfection. What Ribadu achieved as a police officer was far more than what IBB, Atiku, Umar and these idiots achieved. Actually no right minded person will compare IBB, Atiku, Umar who are corruption persofate with Ribadu the Corruption fighter that scares hell out of IBB, Umar, Atiku and all the rogue ex-governors. Please help us to list the achievement of Atiku, IBB and Umar as public officers. We know Ribadu is not perfect. But please for conscience sake, tell us what IBB, Atiku and Umar did perfectly except stealing our money. Nigerians are waiting for your list of achievement of IBB, Atiku and Umar. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by oldie(m): 7:24pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
Umar , Was the sole administrator in Festac Housing estate Did he leave festac better than he met it? He was once the Kaduna state governor What concrete legacy did he leave behind? He was in the army What was the state of the army when he left? We should not be carried away with these opportunists and laterday crusaders They had all the opportunity to improve Nigeria Now they want to come back and continue with their crap again |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by IykeD1(m): 7:47pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
Umar who? Hen hen, I suppose IBB has nonimated Col. Umar to be the next EFCC chairman? Irregular appointment? The intellectual bankruptcies of Nigerian leaders knows no bound. So if someone's appointment was really regular, sending them on a course is the remedy or taking steps to regularize the appointment? Heck, how regular was the election of the president? How legal or regular was the process that made Umar a military governor? Let me guess, someone on Nairaland is about to lecture us now on how we need to strive for "perfection" in everything we do. . . This country is lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by BigB11(m): 8:09pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
Calm down folks. There is nobody endorsing Umar, let's focus on his point of view; how Ribadu lost the battle many months ago and how this could be prevented from happening again. I think his view happens to be very accurate and sincere! What is the big deal, folks? Are you telling me not to give this man a chance to express himself just because he was a governor during the era of IBB? If that is the case, then you guys are not serious about elevating the country from the dusty floor; We need to grow up quick or else we have a long way to go. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by ono(m): 8:30pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
While it might be difficult to point out, at this time, whatever legacies Col. Umar left behind when he was in the military and in the politics of the dictator, IBB, one cannot easily overlook those brilliant points the retired Colonel has made up there. We will only be deceiving ourselves at this time if we descend so low as to begin to malign Umar's personality and not look at the points he's raised on the performance of babacratic OBJ and his locust infested 8 years rule. It's like chasing shadows and leaving substance! All of what he's raised up there are largely true and only sincere people will look at them and reason with the colonel on the way out of our present predicament as a nation. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by linuxuser(m): 9:01pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
While it might be difficult to point out, at this time, whatever legacies Col. Umar left behind when he was in the military and in the politics of the dictator, IBB, one cannot easily overlook those brilliant points the retired Colonel has made up there. by Ono, Ono, The issue here is that Umar does not possess the credibility that Ribadu earned by virtue of what he did for Nigeria. Umar is entitled to his opinion and I respect that. But the issue is that when he served Nigeria, he had the opportunity to do things that will better Nigeria but he choose to steal with his master IBB that is why it is difficult to point out at this time what he did. The records are there for all that Ribadu worked hard and earned integrity and respect of common Nigerians even in his imperfection. It is on record that Umar, IBB earned disrespect by stealing the money that belong to Nigerians. Umar should keep his mouth shut and talk about somehting else and not about what Ribadu did not do well. There is no iota of brillance in what he said but rather he is cleverly and deceifully trying to say something so that people can say he said something. I strongly believed in what people achieved to better Nigeria and not their rabble rousing and petty talk to discredit others. There is no record that Ribadu stole money that belong to Nigerians. But records are there to indict IBB, UMar, Ibori, OBJ and the rest of them. God will judge them all. Its just a matter of time. Umar, IBB is equal to CORRUPTION. Please show us something to the contrary. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by linuxuser(m): 9:12pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
Are you telling me not to give this man a chance to express himself just because he was a governor during the era of IBB? by Big B1 Big B1, You are correct that Umar is entitled to express himself but the point is that he lacks morality, decency and character to condemn Ribadu. At least we can all see what Ribadu achieved in his imperfection. But what did IBB, Umar and the rest of them achieve? Nothing except that they stole the money that belongs to all of us. There is nothing wrong with Umar expressing his opinion but he does not possess an integrity to judge Ribadu because of what is on record. The point here is CREDIBILITY, INTGRITY, CONSCIENCE AND HONESTY. Ribadu posses all these to some extent but IBB, Umar, Atiku does not posses any of these. The only thing they have on record is EMBEZZLEMENT, CORRUPTION AND LIES TO THE CORE!!!. THE RECORS ARE THERE FOR ALL NIGERIANS TO SEE. God Bless Nigeria. God Bless Ribadu. May God punish all of them that have stolen Nigerian Money. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by BigB11(m): 9:22pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
You are correct that Umar is entitled to express himself but the point is that he lacks morality, decency and character to condemn Ribadu Thanks for a great reply, but could you please prove all these horrible things you've listed against Umar? I'm open to learning something new! |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by BigB11(m): 9:40pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
[b]But right now, I think Ribadu has made his contribution to the war on corruption. He was used by Obasanjo to fight political enemies, but he managed to convince many Nigerians and the world at large that he had the patriotism, passion and decision to give corruption a bloody fight. If his bosses think he has become too controversial or out-of-control to be allowed to continue, fair enough. The ball is no longer in Ribadu’s court. It is now squarely in President Yar’ Adua’s court. The nation and the whole world are watching to see how he plays it. One year from now, we will be in a position to say conclusively if Ribadu was removed to slow down the war or recharge it. We are giving Yar’ Adua the benefit of doubt, but we are watching ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have a number of names that will fit the role: Col. Abubakar Dangiwa Umar (retd) Commodore Ebitu Ukiwe (retd), Chief Gani Fawehinmi (SAN) and Mr. Femi Falana. Of the lot, Umar will immediately restore confidence in the fight against corruption. He will be fair but firm. This war is a serious affair. Let Umar lead it! [/b] http://odili.net/news/source/2008/jan/3/308.html |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by ono(m): 9:40pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
linux, Don't you think you're being somewhat biased in your evaluation of these two personalities? The identified ''imperfections'' in Ribadoo scooby doo is the main reason he's being sent on course today, so that he can be well groomed for higher responsibilities or whatever responsibility there is for him And as far as I know, I stand to be corrected though, Umar was a vocal, fearless critic of the Abacha administration. We all know how brutal Abacha was when he was at the helm of affairs up there. I think for anyone to ''voice out'' or criticise Abacha at the time, he must really be holding on to something and must have a clean record. Militancy in the delta creek was unheard of. Even babacratic OBJ escaped death by the whiskers! Get my drift? |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by BigB11(m): 10:04pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
Posted by linuxuser You are correct that Umar is entitled to express himself but the point is that he lacks morality, decency and character to condemn Ribadu Thanks for a great reply, but could you please prove all these horrible things you've listed against Umar? I'm open to learning something new! My man, linuxuser: You've got to back your point! Do not be like others that talk rubbish, but have no back-bone. I'm waiting! |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by BigB11(m): 10:06pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
Ono: I feel you. One love! |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by linuxuser(m): 10:27pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
And as far as I know, I stand to be corrected though, Umar was a vocal, fearless critic of the Abacha administration By ono Ono, Please spare me a minute. Does Umar being a critic of Abacha/OBJ mean he is honest and committed to fight corruption to stand still? Before he retired, please list his records of achievement either in the military or in other capacity he was priviledged to serve. There is no doubt that for a Police officer in Nigeria to challenge everyone of us including me and you that if ever he took bribe from anyone, such person should come forward and till date, not a signle person, to the best of my knowledge has been able to come forward. I have personally met Serving Senior police Officers that worked with Ribadu. Each of them confirmed that this guy is different. Me and you will remember that none of is perfect and can never be perfect. None of us is God and we can never be God. Only God is perfect. Please point us to any where in the world where an individual or organisation is perfect. I have nothing against Umar or IBB except that both of them contributed immesensely to the mess Ribadu was trying to clean up. They both have the opportunity to use their respective opportunity to better Nigeria. But what is on record is nothing but failure and Curruption. IBB and Umar are both corrupt. Umar leading the EFCC will give birth to nothing but SUPER CORRUPTION - the type we have never witnessed before in the history of Nigeria. I have said it before and will repeat it again. Ribadu is replaceable. Some others can do better job than he has done but please not people like Umar. He had a chance but blew it. I have asked us to kindly bail us out by listing his (Umar's) achievements when he was in a place of authority. Not a single thing has been ascbribed to him except failure. Did he leave Kaduna State better? i do not think so. if you think so pleas list what he did. What did he do as a Serving Army Officer. Nothing except being an apostle of his master IBB. Has Umar ever got the gut criticise IBB? Where was he then?. Please let us all be guided not by our love or sympathy for any individual but rather let us be guided by the Truth and a clear conscience. If everyone of us can have an iota of respect for the truth, Nigeria will get better. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by linuxuser(m): 10:35pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
Thanks for a great reply, but could you please prove all these horrible things you've listed against Umar? I'm open to learning something new! My man, linuxuser: You've got to back your point! Do not be like others that talk rubbish, but have no back-bone. I'm waiting! by BigB1, With due respect to you, Please list what Umar achieved as the Governor of Kaduna State? Was Kaduna State better off when he left if yes how? Kindly include in your list of what he achieved and did for Nigeria when he was in the Nigeria Army. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by BigB11(m): 10:47pm On Jan 03, 2008 |
My man, I was never endorsing or repudiating this man from start; I just do not have enough information to hold this precious position you seem to be handling pretty well. You were the one with all the bullets regarding everything and anything this man did wrong during his time as the governor. And I was just hoping that you would be kind enough to share by elaborating your points and allowing us to learn one or two things. My man, you have the ball, please teach us something new. Will you? |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by akpanbaba: 11:32am On Jan 04, 2008 |
My friend Linux, Please dont waste your energy on BIGBI and some of his friends.they are not worth it.you know the son of the snake must be long .this guy has refused to mention what his master did in the miltary and even a retired officer that would qualify him as EFCC chairman.The blood that flows from BIGBI smells corruption because he is the son of the snake,IBB.ALAM.TAFA,UMAR.Pray for him like this;Every spirit of corruption in BIGB1 that has beclouded his sense of reasoning ,fall down and die AMEN |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by babasin(m): 11:42am On Jan 04, 2008 |
President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua may have been reluctant to approve the study leave for Mallam Nuhu Ribadu, chairman of Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), THISDAY checks have revealed. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by IykeD1(m): 11:56am On Jan 04, 2008 |
What was the president's understanding of the duration of the course which begins in February? Is it a 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, or 9 months course? If its a 1 month course, no problem. But if its a 9 months course, how is that not tantamount to removing Ribadu? Can the AGF still be the AGF if he was asked to go on a nine month course? These guys can't even spin anything to save their lives! |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by McKren(m): 12:03pm On Jan 04, 2008 |
The truth of the matter is, the President needs better spin doctors The ones he has right now are either no good or they are delibrately destroying him. Remember most of them have Presidential ambition. |
Re: Ribadu's Removal Is Long Overdue? by babasin(m): 12:12pm On Jan 04, 2008 |
The only fault I found in Ribadu, and it is a grievous fault, is that he never for once, throughout the time he worked with the erstwhile president, gave any hint that some spanners from the presidency were being thrown in the works of his Commission. Everyone knew the Commission was being driven by a remote control held by Obasanjo, yet Ribadu carried on, and wanted everybody to believe him, as if he was his own man, answerable to no man and feared no man. That was a lie and Ribadu knew it was a lie. Everyone was aware that Obasanjo was leading him and his Commission by the nose. simply brilliant. Sayo-nara Ribadu. |
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