Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life. Revelation 2:10

In Ambon, Indonesia, a Christian youth camp was held in early 1999 with the theme “Soldiers of the Cross!” The camp was attacked by an angry group of Muslim extremists and a 15-year-old boy named Roy Pontoh was singled out for carrying his Bible and interrogated.

When asked, “Who are you?” he replied, “I am a soldier of Jesus Christ.” The angry mob chopped at his left arm with a machete. The questioning continued, “Who are you?” And again Roy answered, “I am a soldier of Jesus Christ.” Then they chopped at his right arm.

When they tried to force him to say, “Allahu Akbar,” he replied, “As far as I know, Jesus Christ is the only Lord.” Now the seething angry crowd cut open his stomach and demanded again, “Who are you?” With his last breath, Roy gasped, “I am a soldier of Jesus Christ.” The mob cut off his head and threw his body in a ditch.

Martyrdom may be the end result of those who endure. In addition to Jesus, three martyrs are named in the New Testament—John the Baptist, Stephen and James. Some of the unnamed heroes of the faith mentioned in Hebrews 11:37 were also martyred. .

Martyrdom is described as a legitimate response to persecution. This is not easily understood in our day and in our culture that specializes in personal “rights” and the avoidance of suffering. But a special crown is awaiting those who lay down their lives for their faith.

The appropriate response to persecution that one chooses depends on that person’s intimate relationship with God the Holy Spirit and openness to His direction.

No doubt if you and I had talked to Roy Pontoh before his death, we may not have detected such bravery and loyalty to Jesus. Roy passed the hot water test with flying colors. He graduated to a special place with his Lord as a victorious overcomer.

Overcomers are like tea bags. You have to put them in hot water to know how strong they are!

RESPONSE: Today I will live in faith and assurance that even in the test and threat of death I can be a victorious overcomer.

PRAYER: Pray that all those who may face physical death today for the cause of Christ will walk in faith and realize they will never die.

Standing Strong Through The Storm (SSTS)
A daily devotional message by SSTS author Paul Estabrooks

© 2011 Open Doors International. Used by permission

Fr0sbel: Martyrdom is described as a legitimate response to persecution. This is not easily understood in our day and
in our culture
that specializes in personal “rights” and the avoidance of suffering.

You are writing to the descendants of slaves?
You say that Africans do not know the martyrdom and sacrifice?
Surely you live in London or USA ... or in the Cayman Islands Lol!
What can you say about the "African society?".
Why not think before "paste" things like this?
That was pathetic and even offensive Fr0sbel!
pfffff

Frosbel, thank goodness for this article!!!


Your stupidity has been highlighted.


Matyrdom has always been foolish.

MacDaddy01: Frosbel, thank goodness for this article!!!


Your stupidity has been highlighted.


Martyrdom has always been foolish.

Martyrdom is dying for something you believe in. In this context,the boy did not go looking for death , he simply stood for his faith and was killed !

What did you expect him to say ? Perhaps him reciting Allahu Akbar might have saved his life , instead he stood on principles and what he believed in and was killed.

In the past we had Hindu Martyrs, Buddhist Martyrs and even communist Martyrs , people who did not go looking for death but died for refusing to denounce their faith.

On the contrary in some aspects of Islam , the radical ones actively look for death in battle while killing others, this is their definition Martyrdom.

Not everyone stands for nothing !

frosbel:


Martyrdom is dying for something you believe in. In this context,the boy did not go looking for death , he simply stood for his faith and was killed !

What did you expect him to say ? Perhaps him reciting Allahu Akbar might have saved his life , instead he stood on principles and what he believed in and was killed.

In the past we had Hindu Martyrs, Buddhist Martyrs and even communist Martyrs , people who did not go looking for death but died for refusing to denounce their faith.

On the contrary in some aspects of Islam , the radical ones actively look for death in battle while killing others, this is their definition Martyrdom.

Not everyone stands for nothing !

Foolish Frosbel thinking #1
-Atheists stand for nothing. Wrong. Every atheist has his own philosphy and ideas on life. Some choose to be humanitarians, some choose to be hedonists etc



Foolish Frosbel thinking #2
-Martyrdom has a reward. Wrong. There is no evidence for God or a second life. You will die for an imaginary god


Foolish Frosbel thinking #3
-Christian matryrdom is different from muslim matyrdom. Wrong. Both of you sacrifice you own life when you could live for tomorrow. There are innocent muslims persecuted in Burma.

MacDaddy01:


Foolish Frosbel thinking #1
-Atheists stand for nothing. Wrong. Every atheist has his own philosphy and ideas on life. Some choose to be humanitarians, some choose to be hedonists etc



Foolish Frosbel thinking #2
-Martyrdom has a reward. Wrong. There is no evidence for God or a second life. You will die for an imaginary god


Foolish Frosbel thinking #3
-Christian matryrdom is different from muslim matyrdom. Wrong. Both of you sacrifice you own life when you could live for tomorrow. There are innocent muslims persecuted in Burma.

Your Juvenile outbursts are remarkable, anyhow this story was written for the foolish among us who stand for our 'silly' faith .

I am unsure how this concerns you or impacts your heroic life !

Anyway I will not entertain any further arguments on this matter.

frosbel:

Your Juvenile outbursts are remarkable, anyhow this story was written for the foolish among us who stand for our 'silly' faith .

I am unsure how this concerns you or impacts your heroic life !

Anyway I will not entertain any further arguments on this matter.

What are you going to do? Ban me?

Please comment here;

https://www.nairaland.com/1035161/how-two-religions-deceive-themselves

MacDaddy01:

What are you going to do? Ban me?

Nope, who am I to ban you,I will simply refuse to engage you in further or future debates.

In other words, grow up !!

frosbel:

Nope, who am I to ban you,I will simply refuse to engage you in further or future debates.

In other words, grow up !!

Frosbel, why do you hate me so?

A little debate and you rebuke me?

MacDaddy01:

Frosbel, why do you hate me so?

A little debate and you rebuke me?

I can never hate you 'ol chap.

But when you insult people to make a point , it can no longer be called a civil debate.

Words used so far by you on me :

[b]1.[/b]Foolish Frosbel thinking

[b]2.[/b]Your stupidity has been highlighted.

frosbel:

I can never hate you 'ol chap.

But when you insult people to make a point , it can no longer be called a civil debate.

Words used so far by you on me :

[b]1.[/b]Foolish Frosbel thinking

[b]2.[/b]Your stupidity has been highlighted.

I stand corrected!

Thank you.

Fr0sbel: Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life. Revelation 2:10

In Ambon, Indonesia, a Christian youth camp was held in early 1999 with the theme “Soldiers of the Cross!” The camp was attacked by an angry group of Muslim extremists and a 15-year-old boy named Roy Pontoh was singled out for carrying his Bible and interrogated.

When asked, “Who are you?” he replied, “I am a soldier of Jesus Christ.” The angry mob chopped at his left arm with a machete. The questioning continued, “Who are you?” And again Roy answered, “I am a soldier of Jesus Christ.” Then they chopped at his right arm.

When they tried to force him to say, “Allahu Akbar,” he replied, “As far as I know, Jesus Christ is the only Lord.” Now the seething angry crowd cut open his stomach and demanded again, “Who are you?” With his last breath, Roy gasped, “I am a soldier of Jesus Christ.” The mob cut off his head and threw his body in a ditch.

Martyrdom may be the end result of those who endure. In addition to Jesus, three martyrs are named in the New Testament—John the Baptist, Stephen and James. Some of the unnamed heroes of the faith mentioned in Hebrews 11:37 were also martyred. .

Martyrdom is described as a legitimate response to persecution. This is not easily understood in our day and in our culture that specializes in personal “rights” and the avoidance of suffering. But a special crown is awaiting those who lay down their lives for their faith.

The appropriate response to persecution that one chooses depends on that person’s intimate relationship with God the Holy Spirit and openness to His direction.

No doubt if you and I had talked to Roy Pontoh before his death, we may not have detected such bravery and loyalty to Jesus. Roy passed the hot water test with flying colors. He graduated to a special place with his Lord as a victorious overcomer.

Overcomers are like tea bags. You have to put them in hot water to know how strong they are!

RESPONSE: Today I will live in faith and assurance that even in the test and threat of death I can be a victorious overcomer.

PRAYER: Pray that all those who may face physical death today for the cause of Christ will walk in faith and realize they will never die.

Standing Strong Through The Storm (SSTS)
A daily devotional message by SSTS author Paul Estabrooks

© 2011 Open Doors International. Used by permission

You do realize that what you're saying is also what suicide bombers say.

thehomer:

You do realize that what you're saying is also what suicide bombers say.

Okay , watch out for me next , I might have a bomb strapped to my back ! , lol.

frosbel:

Okay , watch out for me next , I might have a bomb strapped to my back ! , lol.

Given the beliefs you espouse, it wouldn't really surprise me.

thehomer:

Given the beliefs you espouse, it wouldn't really surprise me.

Good !!

suicidal frosbel is just showing his true color.

Sweetnecta: suicidal frosbel is just showing his true color.

Only trying to emulate the millions of your Jihad brothers who have taught us how to do it , lol

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MacDaddy01: Frosbel, thank goodness for this article!!!


Your stupidity has been highlighted.


Matyrdom has always been foolish.

How does dying for what one believe in make him foolish?(As long as it doesnt affect some other person)

frosbel:

Good !!

So I guess you cannot criticize suicide bombers can you?

thehomer:

So I guess you cannot criticize suicide bombers can you?

Yes I can and I will.,

Big difference :


Suicide bomber : Kills others = Marty

Christian : is killed by suicide bomber = Marty

Hope at least you can reason around this simple logic , if not ,I have to question your academic credentials .

frosbel:

Yes I can and I will.,

Big difference :


Suicide bomber : Kills others = Marty

Christian : is killed by suicide bomber = Marty

Hope at least you can reason around this simple logic , if not ,I have to question your academic credentials .

Other suicide bombers justify their actions by saying that they're soldiers of their own Gods.

frosbel:

Okay , watch out for me next , I might have a bomb strapped to my back ! , lol.

In your brain Fr0sbel ... in your brain ...