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I am a christian (practical) and i believe in God. I however hate veneration of humans. Some preacher talks nonesense and you complain when people expose the stu.pidity in his reasoning. I do agree that the Bible says, 'marry only in the Lord', if your Adeboye is restricting marriage in the Lord to members of his congregation, has Christ then become divided? rather than see the folly of his argument, you are threatening people with him being a MOG, Man of God my yansh. Please ask him to curse me and let us see whether he has a faster access to God than I do and whether we do not both pass through the same channel namely Jesus Christ[/quote

With this kind of statements, i now confirm that Adeboye prayers never go beyond his roof top, if he has that type of power, what has he done to the Boko Haram that are blowing up his business customers in the North? It pains me a lot when people praise these righteous niggers in the pulpit. This man should visit hospital. You are very right my dear, Bible is one and word of God is one. Any man that added or subtracted any single word of God is not of God. His prayers will never have any harm on you because you said the whole truth. Check majority of his supporters here, they are almost from his tribe. Marriage is supposed to be based on love and not on material things. Adeboye failed this one, if he made these statements.

Lord Babs: can't you read? he said in a tv program. is that not enough a source?

DID U WATCH THE PROGRAM?? AND HOW DOYOU KNOW THAT THIS POSTER IS NOT EVEN LYING OR MISHEARING WHAT HE WANTS.

[quote author=MacDaddy01]Is Adeboye foolish?


Dont marry outside the RCC?


you want God's wrath to come down on u for using that word "foolish" on a man God has ordained

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IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN U WOULD KNOW TO LOOK FOR THE VIDEO AND WATCH FIRST BEFORE YOU BLAST A MAN OF GOD LIKE THIS. DO U THNK GOD WILL AMSWERR YOUR PRAYERS NOW FOR THIS AFTER U HAVE INSULTED A MAN OF GOD?? "TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED". I do not know if he said this but even if he did it is an advise not complusory. Redeemed church is a very big church with millions of worshipers around the world. He is simply saying if you ant to pick a spouse there are plenty educated and promising people inthe church s a whole NOT in just one rbanch. Itw ould be good if you foud somene with the same beliefs as youso that there will be peace in ur home.

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IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN U WOULD KNOW TO LOOK FOR THE VIDEO AND WATCH FIRST BEFORE YOU BLAST A MAN OF GOD LIKE THIS. DO U THNK GOD WILL ANSWER YOUR PRAYERS NOW FOR THIS AFTER U HAVE INSULTED A MAN OF GOD?? "TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED". I do not know if he said this but even if he did it is an advise not complusory. Redeemed church is a very big church with millions of worshipers around the world. He is simply saying if you want to pick a spouse there are plenty educated and promising people in the church as a whole NOT in just one branch. It would be good if you foud someone with the same beliefs as you so that there will be peace in ur home. I am an ex-Redeemer buti will not have a mere person insult a whole anointed man of God over somethg someone said they watched him say and not what u heard yourself. A lot of other churches do not teach their congregation a lotof all the thngs redeemed does. so plssssss

InvertedHammer: The good things about the churches---the MOGs preach, the audience listens...At the end, it is listeners' discretion to stay.

So, there is no qualms

BRILLIANT...ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT....YOU DESERVE A THUMBS UP!!!!!

I have heard all sorts of believable and unbelievable sermones been preached by so called men of God from the alter. I do not know if this statement was actually made by the G.O but if he did, thats an unfortunate advise to give to youths. The most shocking I have heard is when a well known man of God from Ughelli South LGA of Delta state said anyone who sleeps with his wife in any sexual position except the missionary style commits a grave since. From that day on, I realized that running a church is just about the money. People are very gullible and will readily follow a man perceived to be smarter than them

dgreatest1:

BRILLIANT...ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT....YOU DESERVE A THUMBS UP!!!!!

EXACTLY!! IT IS HIS TO SAY AND YOURS TO TAKE THE ADVISE OR LEAVE IT NOT TELL HIM WHAT OR WHAT NOT TO SAY.

MacDaddy01: Is Adeboye foolish?


Dont marry outside the RCC?

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mind hw 2 Man Of God

I don't know whether Adeboye said this, but if he did I wouldn't absolutely agree with him.
In some instances, there are really no absolute. If he says no Redeem member should marry a non Redeemer no matter what, then it is absolutely wrong.
Are redeemers the only true Christians? Did God only die for redeemers? Or are you saying God cannot lead you to marry some1 outside your denomination?
These are issues that should be explained. I have a pastor who was once a member of RCCG. But due to some politics are disagreement, he decided to leave the Church. What about that?

basisop:


And if the job is no more after marrying, please divorce the jobless man abi?

Issue is that u found him doing something.
The fact the he proved to be responsible shows that's he isn't just gonna fold his hands and count the stars. He will be out there combing the streets for a job. Better still he will invent one no matter how little. Or even do odd jobs.
Such man has his head on his shoulders. Am sick of lazy men walking tru and fro the earth without motives or plan. Some will sit at home bc they haven't gotten a job in their area of study, men are known to be restless, make dem use that restlessness for something positive!

So the advice summary is this:
1. If you are a non redeemed church guy dating a redeemed church lady, dump her now!
2. If you were engaged to a man who later lost his job. Dump him now!

Hear the divine words of the wise?

Bo-large:
I'M STILL FINDING IT DIFFICULT TO BELEIVE THAT OR WHY HUSBAND AND WIFE SHOULD BE ATTENDING TWO DIFFERENT CHURCHES.

THEN THEIR CAN BE NO UNITY IN THAT HOME. DURING A MISUNDERSTANDING, THE HUSBAND WILL SAY IN MY CHURCH WE DONT BELIEVE IN THIS THEN THE WIFE WILL SAY THAT IS OUR OWN BELIEVE, THEN WAHALA DEY O O!

I get your point;
But what happened to ONE FAITH, ONE LOVE, ONE BODY IN CHRIST? Doctrines were brought up by men, so couples attending different churches should be taught the same word of God! Though the word is new everyday but it should all point @ teaching,reproof,correction and training in righteousness.
For unity and love, also for their children, married couples are to attend the same church! BTW; During few challenging times; a couple can find themselves in different churches; it happens. Afterwhich they continue in faith in whatever church they choose.

seriously, it is annoying when people say 'man of god this_man of god that'. some ppl are saying it is merely an advice, of course yes. but we are saying that it is a rather unfortunate and fo.olish advice bereft of a virtuous or true custodian of god-my-foot! so if i call adeboye a f.ool, then a dippy f.ool he is. take it or hang thereon!

there are 2 premises to this statement. 1st premise is
completely schismatic.
i.e. it only fuels disunity
and schism among
fellow christians. is your
god so parochial that he
would instruct you to
consider matrimonial
racialism? What if the
will of your god is for a
particular member of
RCCG to marry a deeper
life member or even a
muslim or a pagan or
even an atheist like me?
in a nutshell the
biblicism of this
argument is evidenced
by Hosea's matrimonial
experience.

in addition, if all
churches should adopt
this policy of
intrabreeding/ marriage
just to ease post-
nuptial disagreement,
then the interest of
socio-cultural
harmonious society
(which should be our
primary yearnings) is
thereby threatened.

2nd premise, as
seeming sensible as it
appears, contains 2
fallacies. the argument
that the woman should
ensure the husband-to-
be must have a job and
a confirmed job for that
matter, does not only
frustrate the possibility
of post-marriage jobbing
for the man, but also
place a high value on
job/ materialism, as a
chief criterion for
marriage, other than
love and understanding and happiness. also, what if the
member marries a
jobbed man and after
1month of marriage, he
loses his job: should she
now leave/divorce him,
since he got more no
job? if not, then why
cant she initially marry a
jobless man if the
duo,given the prevailing
circumstances, could
cope with the post-
conjugal consequences?
what moral
righteousness has a
man_of_god indirectly
inciting his sheep unto
pursuing job at all cost
before marriage,
especially in a putrid
country of ours, rife
with unemployment?

in furtherance, the idea
of wriggling the man in
such cavernous dilemma
of no-job-no-wife will be
prejudicial and unfair,
whereas the wife was
not issued such
stringent caveat, as
though the financial
onus of the family is
not mutually shared by
the duo.
now, back to the 2nd
fallacy of the 2nd
premise: in the bid of
substantiating his
statement, the man_of_
god referenced adam as
being jobbed by god b4
marrying eve. this is a
very wrong analogy and
also blasphemous.
consider these: was
jobbing adam considered
by god a sinequanon for
betrothing eve to him?
if yes, then of what
relative pursose? are
we biblically told that
there is any romance
whatsoever between
his gardener's job, as
contained in gen 2:15
and his matrimony?
what income was adam
earning inorder to cater
for eve? or was it adam
who asked to be
married to eve? and
even inspite that he had
a job, does it make the
marriage last afterall?

now, some people may
say that the man_of_
god merely advised his
members, and that
listeners' discretion is
advised: but it is pivotal
to also note that when
there is an advice, there
is an accountable
source; if the source is
unserious&untru sted,
then the advice is taken
unseriously: but when
the source of the advice
is considered a
serious&trused
authority to reckon
with, then such advice
is taken seriouly.
ordinary senseless
rumour about not
wearing red cloth,
erroneously from d
same notable authority
elicited mass compliance
by same gullible
community, who cannot
think for themselves.

I love and respect Pastor Adeboye, But if truly he said this, then I totally disagree with him.

@ Those doubting if he said it

Yes he said that yesterday. A lady asked me if it was right and I told her NO VERY WRONG NOT FROM CHRIST.

Even in the Corinthian church not all members were in Christ. In the seven churches of revelation many members were not in Christ. Hence the bible admonish Christians to only "marry in the Lord."

I am not surprised by what Adeboye said. He once wrote in one of His open heaven book that the GO is the high priest and twisted the parable of the sower which is all about the heart of man and their acceptance of the word of God into offerings and tithes. Jesus knew all this. He already said " MANY shall say in your name we cast out ...... but I will say to them I KNEW YE NOT"

Everyday the choice is getting clearer God or man. GO or GOD?

haha. I understand the part of having a job before marriage, but really as someone said....there are no absolutes in laws guiding humans on how to live their lives especially in difficult times like these.

but the unmarried man should be focused and hardworking and trying to earn a living. I don't support marrying a lazy and an unfocused man...especially those who refuse to heed to advice on having a source of income.

belabela: @ Those doubting if he said it

Yes he said that yesterday. A lady asked me if it was right and I told her NO VERY WRONG NOT FROM CHRIST.

Even in the Corinthian church not all members were in Christ. In the seven churches of revelation many members were not in Christ. Hence the bible admonish Christians to only "marry in the Lord."

I am not surprised by what Adeboye said. He once wrote in one of His open heaven book that the GO is the high priest and twisted the parable of the sower which is all about the heart of man and their acceptance of the word of God into offerings and tithes. Jesus knew all this. He already said " MANY shall say in your name we cast out ...... but I will say to them I KNEW YE NOT"

Everyday the choice is getting clearer God or man. GO or GOD?

brilliant!

Dignitary: I love Nigerians...

So gullible and sheepish!!!

Someone who is not a journalist, whose view is not authoritative..someone who has not elicited any evidence to show that Pastor Adeboye indeed said all he has alleged said the man of God said 'don't marry frm RCCG' and y'all believe!!! So sick!!!

Many have not only believed but they have started hurling insults at the man of God...Well, I now know the reason why so many ppl have problems without knowing the cause of their problems.

My friends, let's exercise caution when we talk about men of God!!! Even if u don't believe they are men of God, it will do u a whole lot of good if u exercise restraints...God can do anything to ppl that despise his prophets and pastors !!! He's a consuming fire!!!

Assuming but not conceding that he said all you said, I believe the context in which that was said must be considered too!!! Sincerely speaking, I believe Christians from different denominations can marry each other!!! My Bible does not tell me otherwise and I do believe that Pastor Adeboye will share this view since he allows Pastors from other churches to preach in RCCG!!!

But if indeed he said all these, it must not be isolated from the context in which he said it!!! It's end time guys...D devil is desperately Interested in bringing down men of God that are constant threats to his kingdom!!! DON'T ALLOW URSELF TO B USED BY THE devil

God bless you

adeboye is a false teacher...who is deceiving many. he is the true wolf in sheep's clothing.

I remember very well the way he twisted the parable of the sower in his open heaven devotional...asking people to sow to their pastors and the g.o.....referring to himself as the high priest..that was utter manipulation of the parable..and the gullible congregation saw nothing wrong in that. Someone who can so manipulate scriptures doesn't deserve the audience of any sensible christian....He is typical of the false teachers christians were warned about in the new testament....eyes full of greed, whose god is their belly.

I don't blame him sha. most nigerian christians are very superstitious people and give too much respect to anybody who claims he is a man of God....especially the ones who pull large crowds.....

acidosis™:
These are his words.. live on DOVE TV.

Don't marry outside this church! Unless you're blind (men), we have alot of good girls in this church. Reasons : if troubles come up later, we can easily call the family to order..but God help you if you marry a lady with another G.O ..


He also said..


"Don't marry a man who has no job!. God gave Adam a job before he gave Eve. If he tells you he is a contractor, please ask for all evidence..

Pasito Adegboye is learning from APPLE.

This is what I called ecosystem in church business.

Christ instead of our pastors, Bishops and GOs, all dis rubbish no go dey happen

Who would sow into the lives of the needy congregation then?

uhonmora: adeboye is a false teacher...who is deceiving many. he is the true wolf in sheep's clothing.

I remember very well the way he twisted the parable of the sower in his open heaven devotional...asking people to sow to their pastors and the g.o.....referring to himself as the high priest..that was utter manipulation of the parable..and the gullible congregation saw nothing wrong in that. Someone who can so manipulate scriptures doesn't deserve the audience of any sensible christian....He is typical of the false teachers christians were warned about in the new testament....eyes full of greed, whose god is their belly.

I don't blame him sha. most nigerian christians are very superstitious people and give too much respect to anybody who claims he is a man of God....especially the ones who pull large crowds.....

It was this 100 fold return fraud that convinced me beyond all reasonable doubt that Adeboye is indeed a ravenous wolf in sheep's clothing. I just couldn't comprehend how a supposed man of God could so brazenly and shamelessly twist the very word of christ he claims to believe in.

[quote author=acidosis™]These are his words.. live on DOVE TV.

Don't marry outside this church! Unless you're blind (men), we have alot of good girls in this church. Reasons : if troubles come up later, we can easily call the family to order..but God help you if you marry a lady with another G.O ..


He also said..


"Don't marry a man who has no job!. God gave Adam a job before he gave Eve. If he tells you he is a contractor, please ask for all evidence..

I AM NOT SURE YOU GOT HIM RIGHT, EVEN IF HE SAYS IT, I DONT THINK THAT, THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU UNDERSTAND IT.

IF HE ADVICES HIS CHURCH MEMBERS TO MARYY FROM THE CHURCH ,MY DEAR HE IS JUST TRYING TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE ARE SINGLE AND MATURED WONDERFUL SISTERS IN THE CHURCH, THAT THY CAN MARY,

AGAIN BEFORE A MAN CAN STAERT THINKING OF MARRIAGE HE SHOLUD ATLEAST HAVE SOMETHING DOING, EVEN IF A SISTER DECIDES TO MARY A MAN THAT HAS NO JOB, IT IS STILL THE MAN THAT WILL COMPLAIN THE MORE, COS HE WILL THINK THAT HIS EGO IS BEIGN TOILED WITH, NO MATTER WAT THE WIFW DOES, HE MUST FIND FAULT WITH IT,

SO TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK THAT IS WRONG WITH HIS ADVICE

IN SOME OCASSION, YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT SOME BROTHERS MIGHT HAS APROCHED ABOUT 3 TO 4 SISTERS IN THESAME CHURCH FOR MARRIAGE BUT TON NO AVAIL, THEY WILL NOW DECIDE TO LOOK OUT OF THE CHURCH,

EVEN I HAD ONCE ASK A FRIEND OF MINE WHY HE LEFT ALL THJIS BEAUTIFUL SISTERS IN OUR FELLOWSHIP AND WENT OUTSIDE TO MARY , HE SAID HE HAS OBSERVED FEW OF THEM THAT ATRACTED HIM BUT THEY DIDNT PLEASE HIM AS SUCH LIKE THE PERSON HE MARRIED.

SO IT SI AN OPEN STATEMENT!

ochukwuma15: Two issues are at stake here,
first, don't marry outside RCCG so that when there is problem, it will be easy to resolve.
Secondly, jobless men should not marry until they secure a job.

In the first case, i will term it a political statement in the sense that if all the men in RCCG are allowed to marry outside the church, who will now marry the ladies in RCCG, including pastor Adegboye's daughters?

The best advice pastor Adegboye should have given his youths is to marry someone you love dearly. If there is love in every family, the pastor will not have any reconcilliation to do because the family will be at peace and when the family is at peace, the society will also be at peace because the family is the smallest unit of the society. It's when love breaks down that irreconcilliable differences will start to resoface and the matter will be dragged to men of God, afterall, they are those that joined them together.

On the issue that jobless men should not get married, that advice is wrong. Marriage has no formulae, and not forgetting that 1+1 is equal to 1, since the jobless man has been taking good care of himself before the lady comes into the picture, without asking for subvention from pastor Adegboye, he can equally take care of his wife.

Adegboye and other men of God should join hands together to fight the high cost of marriage in our society and not asking jobless men to stay clear of marriage.

In the western world, a lady can call her parents on the phone and say, 'mummy, daddy, i'm getting married today'. And her parents will shout, 'waoh, is he handsome, loving, caring, when are we meeting him, we wish you the best sweetheart, we trust you to make the right decisions, bye.'

Thunder will fire you if you try that with a yeruba parent or an Igbo parent. You have to do first introduction, second introduction, iku aka, imalu be, first wine carrying, second wine carrying, traditional marriage. Before you get to white marriage, you're as poor and jobless as any thing you can think of.

Again, it is a known fact that poor and jobless families are more at peace compaired to the rich families. If you're in doubt, look around you.

Instead of calling that jobless men should stay clear of marriage, he should build industries and factories and employ RCCG men and women to work there, that will solve the joblessness issue and reduce poverty rate in nigeria. The money used in buying private jet should have been channeled to solving this problem.

He remembered that adam had a job(taking care of garden of Eden) before God gave him a wife, but forget that Jesus did not have private jet or exotic cars. Jesus was so broke that he can't afford a horse or a carmel.

Thank God, i'm not a member of RCCG, because very soon, it will be passed into law ................. Chuks writes from Enugu, Nigeria.

While you are entitled to your opinion, I would just like to take you up on the highlighted part. Are you aware that Jesus and his disciples had a treasurer called Judas Iscariot? I you aware that it was stated that Judas used to steal from the common purse that was kept in his care? Do broke people have need of an accountant? I do not think so. Jesus and his disciples lived a communal life where what belonged to one belonged to the other. That was why they had a common purse. I do not think it is right to describe Jesus as broke. But of course he wasn't ostentatiously wealthy either.