@chucky234. Read this link from beginning to end. Ibu or Ibo was used in place of Igbo. Try use your intelligence to deduce facts.

http://www.pdavis.nl/Niger_11.htm

Antivirus92: Let me make it clear here. There are two types of igbo people. 1) indigeneous igbos-those who are igbos genetically. 2) Igbonised people-people of various origin who became igbos through inter-marriage (marriage),trading,neighbouring,confedrating,slavery,migration etc into igboland. Examine ur self and choose where you belong.

With this mindset, great empires were shattered. If you are an Igbo leader and you perpetuate this view, then Alaigbo ana na. Obu ukwu a ka nama ga eji je Umuahia?

If u have a flat head, u re definitely Igbo!

S*x sells:
If u have a flat head, u re definitely Igbo!

You are Igbo if you have Igbo blood (whether father or mother) and you are absolutely loyal to the well-being of the Igbo nation. Anything short of this disqualifies you.

XFive: Odumchi Ndaa aga imere?

Nwanne avo m, o di ka I wu onye Aro? Ihe dum digba nma, ndaa kwan maka goo?

Yujin: You are Igbo if you have Igbo blood (whether father or mother) and you are absolutely loyal to the well-being of the Igbo nation. Anything short of this disqualifies you.

taaaaa !!!! I am Igbo cuz I feel and act Igbo at times. People call me Igbo so ..... who the hell are you to disqualify me ?

zaa afa gi ngbe a kporo gi, A man that regards himself as Igbo o bu onye alaigbo

Just cos my igbo is not perfect does not disqualify anyone

From all the REASONABLE comments here and from basic igbo culture, one can only be igbo through the FATHER.

Antivirus92: From all the REASONABLE comments here and from basic igbo culture, one can only be igbo through the FATHER.

Have you done DNA test to determine your father is your biological father?

Nice civil debate. But where would you place my one and only dearest daughter then? We (me/mrs) adopted her when she was just six months old from Ethiopia, she is now in her late 30s with my two grandchildren.
Despite raised in Scotland/England, she speak the best of Igbo language you can expect of her, has Igbo name she is proud of, despite married to a Spaniard, her children also bears Igbo second names, cooks Igbo dishes, wear Igbo clothes, knew/call no other place homeland than Igbo land.

She's more Igbo in my opinion than most Igbo parent I knew whose children only Igbo identity is that "my dad says that we are Igbo".

Abagworo:

Have you done DNA test to determine your father is your biological father?

are you out to insult me?

Eziachi: Nice civil debate. But where would you place my one and only dearest daughter then? We (me/mrs) adopted her when she was just six months old from Ethiopia, she is now in her late 30s with my two grandchildren.
Despite raised in Scotland/England, she speak the best of Igbo language you can expect of her, has Igbo name she is proud of, despite married to a Spaniard, her children also bears Igbo second names, cooks Igbo dishes, wear Igbo clothes, knew/call no other place homeland than Igbo land.

She's more Igbo in my opinion than most Igbo parent I knew whose children only Igbo identity is that "my dad says that we are Igbo".

she is igbonised. Igbo socially and another thing tribally.

Eziachi: Nice civil debate. But where would you place my one and only dearest daughter then? We (me/mrs) adopted her when she was just six months old from Ethiopia, she is now in her late 30s with my two grandchildren.
Despite raised in Scotland/England, she speak the best of Igbo language you can expect of her, has Igbo name she is proud of, despite married to a Spaniard, her children also bears Igbo second names, cooks Igbo dishes, wear Igbo clothes, knew/call no other place homeland than Igbo land.

She's more Igbo in my opinion than most Igbo parent I knew whose children only Igbo identity is that "my dad says that we are Igbo".

This post shows why we respect you so much on NL.

chucky234: What a fool,as old as you are you know nothing about your heritage. Who the hell told you that Ndokwas are Igbos,Igbos don't even know their origin. To save yourself from further embarrassment you can learn about your origin here www.nairaland.com/1072992/brief-history-ndokwa
I'd:iot, ewu Hausa.

Rather than address the issues I raised directly, you launched ad hominen attacks. I will not stoop to your gutter level. The questions are still there for you to address. Are Enuani, Ukwuani and Ika fruits of the same Anioma tree? Do we speak the same language with different accents? Forget about copy and paste or links to distorted facts.

I guess you want us to think you are better than the rest of Anioma because you think you have origins outside Igboland. I have news for you dude-it is people like you that drag Ukwuani back. Of all the Anioma clans, Ukwuani is the most backward. Stand up and be counted where you belong-One of the most industrious African Tribes Igbo. This is what we are in Anioma. Being Igbo is nothing to be shamed of or apologetic about.

You can run but you can't hide from yourself. Olaudah Equiano was kidnapped from Ashaka and sold into slavery but he told everyone he was Igbo. Read about him and be enlightened. If you continue to be abusive, do not expect any more responses from me.

There are irredentist like you that further want to Balkanize Ukwuani into Ndosimili and Ukwuani. It is a truism that Ukwuani like every other society is not totally homogeneous. People from Utchi, Okpai and others from Ndokwa East speak more like Enuani. Aboh speaks hybrid of Enuani and Ukwuani. The moral of my story is that we are more alike than different. For your info, I am a descendant of a famous group that left Benin and settled in many Anioma towns including Onitsha Mili and Onitsha Ukwuani. However, I am no less now an Igbo than say an Owerri man.

History tells us that the ruling family in Benin came from Ife but the Oba of Benin will never say he is Yoruba. Recently, an attempt was launched to rewrite this historical link to Ife. All of us migrated from somewhere.

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The irony of it all is that Aboh were the people that gave the name of their language as Igbo to the Europeans and were the 1st Igbos to receive Europeans into the Igbo country. I'm so happy that Europeans wrote all these down more than 300 years ago without actually being inside the present day Southeast.

Read this
http://www.pdavis.nl/Niger_11.htm

There will be divergent views on this topic, but my opinion is this: U're an Igbo by blood or by choice...

Physical characteristics of the Ibus - Religious
superstitions - Idols numerous - Horrible practice on the
birth of twins - Large earthen idol - Tshuku(Chukwu) or the Great
Spirit - Absurd stories of the priests - Abòh Creek -
Beautiful birds - Native dwellings - Ezzeh Obi Osaï’s mud
palace - The Harem - Human sacrifices - Insalubrity of
Abòh - Ornithology - Rare animals shot by accident -
Plants - Domestic slavery - Obi Osaï's second visit to the
'Albert' - Obi Osaï kneels down with the white men to
worship their God - His sudden fear - The "arrisi"(Arusi) or idol



The natives of Abòh are comparatively tall for West
Africans; well-made and muscular, but the hands and
feet are large. The most prevalent colour of skin is
yellowish or brownish-black The features are truly negro,
the nose expanded, lips rather thick, and without that
pleasing outline observed in some negroes. The forehead
is broad and less retreating than in their more intelligent
neighbours the Eggarahs, but the maxillary bones are
more prognathous or protruding, and the facial angle
consequently less favourable.
The national mark is triangular, tattoed on each temple
in the males, while the softer sex have various starlike
distinctions on the breast and abdomen. The women are
large, and inclined to "embonpoint," the effect probably
of the fattening process they go through to arrive at the
Ibu(Igbo) standard of female beauty. The countenance of these
people is at once expressive of good nature and restless
inquisitiveness.
The religious superstitions of Abòh are as various and
degrading as at any place we visited, and the Fetiches,
or idols, as numerous; every hut having one or more, as
well as amulets, or charms, suspended from sticks in the
quadrangular courts. Many of the idols had pots of water
and food placed near them.
The accompanying sketch is taken from a Ju-ju,
presented to Doctor McWilliam by one of Obi's sons.
An Ibu(Igbo) idol
It is carved in hard brown wood, and represents the
upper half of a human figure, emerging from a sort of
basin; the arms are stretched by the side, and between
them something like a trumpet. The features, though
characteristic of the negro, are exaggerated.
One of their most horrible and extraordinary
superstitions is that connected with the birth of twins; an
occurrence looked upon as the greatest affliction that
can happen to an Ibu(Igbo) woman. The little victims are no
sooner born than one or both are taken away, placed in
the neighbouring thicket in earthen pots or baskets, and
left there to become the food of hyenas or other wild
beasts. Some persons who were near when we
moved towards the direction of this sacred spot, made
earnest signs for us not to approach, exclaiming,
"Tshuku - Tshuku," and just as we had obtained a look of
the figure, one of the Ju-ju men, or priests, came up in a
menacing manner, and would not allow us to remain, or
further to examine the neighbourhood. He appeared to
be very much exasperated, and disposed to punish our
temerity, which probably was only escaped by the
presence of a good double-barrelled "Nock." This jealous
care of the idol, and the exclamation " Tshuku - Tshuku(Chukwu)"
would lead to the supposition that it is the visible
representation of a mysterious being or deity, whom they
consult as an oracle under the same name. His votaries
believe him to exist far off in the bush; that he has the
power of speaking and understanding all languages; is
cognizant of every thing that takes place in the world,
and that he can punish evil doers. The priest whilst
holding communion with Tshuku, is surrounded
miraculously with water, and will perish instantaneously
if he attempts to deceive. As all these absurd stories
originate with the Ju-ju men, whose object is to mislead
their too credulous dupes, we may regard it as a better
organized delusion, which is got up at certain seasons,
and turned to good account by the actors.

Physical characteristics of the Ibus - Religious
superstitions - Idols numerous - Horrible practice on the
birth of twins - Large earthen idol - Tshuku(Chukwu) or the Great
Spirit - Absurd stories of the priests - Abòh Creek -
Beautiful birds - Native dwellings - Ezzeh Obi Osaï’s mud
palace - The Harem - Human sacrifices - Insalubrity of
Abòh - Ornithology - Rare animals shot by accident -
Plants - Domestic slavery - Obi Osaï's second visit to the
'Albert' - Obi Osaï kneels down with the white men to
worship their God - His sudden fear - The "arrisi"(Arusi) or idol



The natives of Abòh are comparatively tall for West
Africans; well-made and muscular, but the hands and
feet are large. The most prevalent colour of skin is
yellowish or brownish-black The features are truly negro,
the nose expanded, lips rather thick, and without that
pleasing outline observed in some negroes. The forehead
is broad and less retreating than in their more intelligent
neighbours the Eggarahs, but the maxillary bones are
more prognathous or protruding, and the facial angle
consequently less favourable.
The national mark is triangular, tattoed on each temple
in the males, while the softer sex have various starlike
distinctions on the breast and abdomen. The women are
large, and inclined to "embonpoint," the effect probably
of the fattening process they go through to arrive at the
Ibu(Igbo) standard of female beauty. The countenance of these
people is at once expressive of good nature and restless
inquisitiveness.
The religious superstitions of Abòh are as various and
degrading as at any place we visited, and the Fetiches,
or idols, as numerous; every hut having one or more, as
well as amulets, or charms, suspended from sticks in the
quadrangular courts. Many of the idols had pots of water
and food placed near them.
The accompanying sketch is taken from a Ju-ju,
presented to Doctor McWilliam by one of Obi's sons.
An Ibu(Igbo) idol
It is carved in hard brown wood, and represents the
upper half of a human figure, emerging from a sort of
basin; the arms are stretched by the side, and between
them something like a trumpet. The features, though
characteristic of the negro, are exaggerated.
One of their most horrible and extraordinary
superstitions is that connected with the birth of twins; an
occurrence looked upon as the greatest affliction that
can happen to an Ibu(Igbo) woman. The little victims are no
sooner born than one or both are taken away, placed in
the neighbouring thicket in earthen pots or baskets, and
left there to become the food of hyenas or other wild
beasts. Some persons who were near when we
moved towards the direction of this sacred spot, made
earnest signs for us not to approach, exclaiming,
"Tshuku - Tshuku," and just as we had obtained a look of
the figure, one of the Ju-ju men, or priests, came up in a
menacing manner, and would not allow us to remain, or
further to examine the neighbourhood. He appeared to
be very much exasperated, and disposed to punish our
temerity, which probably was only escaped by the
presence of a good double-barrelled "Nock." This jealous
care of the idol, and the exclamation " Tshuku - Tshuku(Chukwu)"
would lead to the supposition that it is the visible
representation of a mysterious being or deity, whom they
consult as an oracle under the same name. His votaries
believe him to exist far off in the bush; that he has the
power of speaking and understanding all languages; is
cognizant of every thing that takes place in the world,
and that he can punish evil doers. The priest whilst
holding communion with Tshuku, is surrounded
miraculously with water, and will perish instantaneously
if he attempts to deceive. As all these absurd stories
originate with the Ju-ju men, whose object is to mislead
their too credulous dupes, we may regard it as a better
organized delusion, which is got up at certain seasons,
and turned to good account by the actors.

Abagworo,thanks for that link. I read the whole of it's content. Thanks to the white man,we have a detailed account of these people.

The story i found interesting is that of ali,a slave to eze obi ossai,who refused to go back to his native hausaland,after he was freed,but chose to become an aboh citizen. Am sure that it's his descendants and descendants of people like him that are trying to sell ukwuani/ndokwa as non igbo.

Abagworo: Physical characteristics of the Ibus - Religious
superstitions - Idols numerous - Horrible practice on the
birth of twins - Large earthen idol - Tshuku(Chukwu) or the Great
Spirit - Absurd stories of the priests - Abòh Creek -
Beautiful birds - Native dwellings - Ezzeh Obi Osaï’s mud
palace - The Harem - Human sacrifices - Insalubrity of
Abòh - Ornithology - Rare animals shot by accident -
Plants - Domestic slavery - Obi Osaï's second visit to the
'Albert' - Obi Osaï kneels down with the white men to
worship their God - His sudden fear - The "arrisi"(Arusi) or idol



The natives of Abòh are comparatively tall for West
Africans; well-made and muscular, but the hands and
feet are large. The most prevalent colour of skin is
yellowish or brownish-black The features are truly negro,
the nose expanded, lips rather thick, and without that
pleasing outline observed in some negroes. The forehead
is broad and less retreating than in their more intelligent
neighbours the Eggarahs, but the maxillary bones are
more prognathous or protruding, and the facial angle
consequently less favourable.
The national mark is triangular, tattoed on each temple
in the males, while the softer sex have various starlike
distinctions on the breast and abdomen. The women are
large, and inclined to "embonpoint," the effect probably
of the fattening process they go through to arrive at the
Ibu(Igbo) standard of female beauty. The countenance of these
people is at once expressive of good nature and restless
inquisitiveness.
The religious superstitions of Abòh are as various and
degrading as at any place we visited, and the Fetiches,
or idols, as numerous; every hut having one or more, as
well as amulets, or charms, suspended from sticks in the
quadrangular courts. Many of the idols had pots of water
and food placed near them.
The accompanying sketch is taken from a Ju-ju,
presented to Doctor McWilliam by one of Obi's sons.
An Ibu(Igbo) idol
It is carved in hard brown wood, and represents the
upper half of a human figure, emerging from a sort of
basin; the arms are stretched by the side, and between
them something like a trumpet. The features, though
characteristic of the negro, are exaggerated.
One of their most horrible and extraordinary
superstitions is that connected with the birth of twins; an
occurrence looked upon as the greatest affliction that
can happen to an Ibu(Igbo) woman. The little victims are no
sooner born than one or both are taken away, placed in
the neighbouring thicket in earthen pots or baskets, and
left there to become the food of hyenas or other wild
beasts. Some persons who were near when we
moved towards the direction of this sacred spot, made
earnest signs for us not to approach, exclaiming,
"Tshuku - Tshuku," and just as we had obtained a look of
the figure, one of the Ju-ju men, or priests, came up in a
menacing manner, and would not allow us to remain, or
further to examine the neighbourhood. He appeared to
be very much exasperated, and disposed to punish our
temerity, which probably was only escaped by the
presence of a good double-barrelled "Nock." This jealous
care of the idol, and the exclamation " Tshuku - Tshuku(Chukwu)"
would lead to the supposition that it is the visible
representation of a mysterious being or deity, whom they
consult as an oracle under the same name. His votaries
believe him to exist far off in the bush; that he has the
power of speaking and understanding all languages; is
cognizant of every thing that takes place in the world,
and that he can punish evil doers. The priest whilst
holding communion with Tshuku, is surrounded
miraculously with water, and will perish instantaneously
if he attempts to deceive. As all these absurd stories
originate with the Ju-ju men, whose object is to mislead
their too credulous dupes, we may regard it as a better
organized delusion, which is got up at certain seasons,
and turned to good account by the actors.

Also,notice that eze obi osaai, called God tshuku,and not oselobua or whatever. We need more of these reports.

bigx:
1. Their language is ijaw (ibani)
2. Their names are ijaw
3. They where born on ijawland
4. A typical Bonny man would never identify himself as igbo

Using the reasons for being igbo stated above

O boy u r the bloodiest liar..... Bonny is more IGBO than any other ethnic

An igbo man is someone that bent on spoiling nigeria name..igbo man is someone that like quick and fast money at all cost..an igbo man is a potential drug dealer..lastly an igbo man is some with tribal man on the left and right side of their face.."Lol

Igbo man is known by all when u see him . igbo people dont hide . Once u see an igbo any where in the world you ll know him . even in overseas, if you see an igbo man in the street, u ll surely know that he is an igbo man . igbos have a very unique look and characteritsics in interms of the way they showcase themselves, the way they talk , walk . they ve a very stylish and unique way of approaching life which is diffrent from any tribe in black world.

Ehm,i have heard about igbos having flat head in this forum a lot ,what exactly do they mean by flat head?

CHESSBOARD:

O boy u r the bloodiest liar..... Bonny is more IGBO than any other ethnic

You can get your facts across without insults, it shows how low your level of thinking is. And who are you to tell me a 100% (both parents) full-fledged Bonny man where I'm from? For your information, I was born there, grew up there and my father is a titled Bonny chief so I have facts to back my statement. I have 4 names and none is igbo, I speak igbani and kalabari fluently but don't even understand igbo, so what are you talking about? Are you still suffering from last night's hangover?

Abagworo:

But are you aware that it was Aboh King that told the whitemen that they and all those that speak their language were Ibos? The evidences are everywhere on the net from accounts written as far back as 17th century. All the Kwale people I've met told me they are Igbos. I've not met any non-Igbo Kwale girl or guy.

I can provide you with enough links. Forget about all these revisionism that started during the
massacre of Igbos in the late 1960s.

Abagworo my brother, let's not get it twisted. We are cousins with Igbo, not Igbo. I have in my possession a dissertation written on the origins of Ukwuani, unfortunately its not online so I cannot provide a link for you. I have spent time translating the oral history of Anioma from bards and elder, none of them have denied kinship with Igbo but they stated without equivocation that we are our own race. Even now, elements of neighbouring Urhobo culture have been assimilated by Aniomas and vice versa hence names like Omene Onome. We are cousins but we deserve to be respected as our own people, not to be subsumed or spat out as mainstream Igbos will.

solomonkane:

Abagworo my brother, let's not get it twisted. We are cousins with Igbo, not Igbo. I have in my possession a dissertation written on the origins of Ukwuani, unfortunately its not online so I cannot provide a link for you. I have spent time translating the oral history of Anioma from bards and elder, none of them have denied kinship with Igbo but they stated without equivocation that we are our own race. Even now, elements of neighbouring Urhobo culture have been assimilated by Aniomas and vice versa hence names like Omene Onome. We are cousins but we deserve to be respected as our own people, not to be subsumed or spat out as mainstream Igbos will.

Castrated monkey, when are you gonna stop this stupidity you have been displaying here since yesterday. There is no particular group called Igbo but groups who speak closely related dialects are grouped as Igbo, monkey, why dont you get it. Shameless monkey, are you more Ukwuani than Power Uti the wrestler who till date maintains his proud Igbo stance.
If you are not Igbo, it is accepted, but it will be an outright stupidity to claim that Ukwuanis are not Igbo. Respect your silly head, bastard.

solomonkane:

Abagworo my brother, let's not get it twisted. We are cousins with Igbo, not Igbo. I have in my possession a dissertation written on the origins of Ukwuani, unfortunately its not online so I cannot provide a link for you. I have spent time translating the oral history of Anioma from bards and elder, none of them have denied kinship with Igbo but they stated without equivocation that we are our own race. Even now, elements of neighbouring Urhobo culture have been assimilated by Aniomas and vice versa hence names like Omene Onome. We are cousins but we deserve to be respected as our own people, not to be subsumed or spat out as mainstream Igbos will.

We have no doubt that there were slaves of hausa and other ethnic origins that were allowed to stay in eboe town at the end of the slave trade. Please do not use our hospitality against us,any time you are tired of being igbo,you can go back to wherever you ancestor came from,it is not our fault that they decided to stay in ukwuani. Thank you.

What amazes me and sometimes annoys me is the attitude towards the Igbos by certain 'Igbos' found in Rivers, Bayelsa, Edo and Delta States. How could someone bear Ibo names all through, practice Igbo culture and speak Igbo language as his mother tongue, yet he claims he is not Igbo? To me some of this attitude has to do with the loss of Nigerian civil war by the Biafrans (no one wants to associate with a loser). To me these ones should simply change their names to Kwame, Osama or Mugabe or something else. For crying out loud, there is no Nigerian ethnic group called "Ikwere" or "Delta Ibo"