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Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by nakash: 4:11pm On Oct 27, 2012
Having carnal knowledge with a minor below 18 years is a criminal offence. The prophet of Islam slept at 54 years with a 9 year old gal I wont mention the thighing preparation that happened before the coitus. I will bash muslims till they explain why a 9 year old can explain why she should be turned into a woman. Did she even get a baby or was the prophet not fertile? Or was the prophet who had strength of 30 men never managed to fertilise the 9 year old?
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by nakash: 4:18pm On Oct 27, 2012
Oh no I am wron The ruler of Iran Ayatollah Khomein married a 10 year old while he was 28 years to justify marriage to a pre pubicent gal. He decreed that a gal is better off when her first course occurs when she is married (in her marital home) . Imagine.
nakash: Having carnal knowledge with a minor below 18 years is a criminal offence. The prophet of Islam slept at 54 years with a 9 year old gal I wont mention the thighing preparation that happened before the coitus. I will bash muslims till they explain why a 9 year old can explain why she should be turned into a woman. Did she even get a baby or was the prophet not fertile? Or was the prophet who had strength of 30 men never managed to fertilise the 9 year old?
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by nakash: 5:06pm On Oct 27, 2012
I love it. Muslims cant justify why their prophet had sex with a 9 year old.Quote the bible please lagosshia, sweetnecta, mac, tibaba to justify why an old man should screw a young one. Feel free.
nakash: Oh no I am wron The ruler of Iran Ayatollah Khomein married a 10 year old while he was 28 years to justify marriage to a pre pubicent gal. He decreed that a gal is better off when her first course occurs when she is married (in her marital home) . Imagine.
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by tintingz(m): 5:21pm On Oct 27, 2012
Lol. . .can you explain why the Jews(yahweh chosen people) intimate with 3yr old females?? Or why Yehweh impregnate 12yr old virgin Mary??
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by okeyxyz(m): 6:10pm On Oct 27, 2012
tintingz: Lol. . .can you explain why the Jews(yahweh chosen people) intimate with 3yr old females?? Or why Yehweh impregnate 12yr old virgin Mary??

good question. Most nairalanders simply come on here to make arguments without context and validity. When did 18 years become the definition of adulthood? How do you assume to judge events of thousands of years ago by the standards of today? It clearly shows their inability to organize intelligent thought, let alone doing a proper critique of society, culture and morality. A lot of people who come here to cry "pedophilia!!" seem to have developed a sudden amnesia, forgetting that a lot of our mothers were married at about 10-13 years(not that they were having se.x then, but they were married or betrothed) old back in the villages. Now that we are priviledged to have an education, we suddenly assume that generations before should think like us and therefore be subject to our judgments and values which we ourselves have only recently adopted, not that we were raised up by them.

Frankly, I think these guys are suffering from some kind of inferiority complex, they are ashamed that they come from an "underdeveloped" culture, therefore they are overcompensating by acting like they personify all the western cultures and knowledge, so they can to look down on the rest of the "underdeveloped" folks and feel good about themselves. sad!!
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by tintingz(m): 8:39pm On Oct 27, 2012
^^ on point. . .most NL are ignorant and hypocrites they don't know the evironment culture in the past thousands of centuries they forgot that it's a norm at that time, the jews, arabs, indians, chinese, africa etc they all betrothed their daughters to the male among themselvs. . .and at that time girls get matured quickly as soon they reach 9yrs of age their fathers give them out to their male friends or to their sons. . .if i may ask no one even the pagans insulted nor gave an allegation of paedophill on Mohammed(S.A.W) when Aisha(RA) was betrothed to him, they all know it's their culture and a girl at that age is already getting matured. . .Joseph the carpenter who was very much older was never insulted when he married 10-12yr old Mary. . .our great great mothers where given out when they reach 9-12 yrs of age, are we to call our great great fathers paedophilla?? Hypocrites! the op should study the culture of past before posting thrash.
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by Nobody: 8:46pm On Oct 27, 2012
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@okeyxyz and tintingz,
you two should ignore nakash. Ever since he escaped from yaba left this is how he goes from section to section starting different useless topics that his crazy head comes up with. Just ignore him. wink
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by ParisLove2(f): 9:06pm On Oct 27, 2012
okeyxyz:

good question. Most nairalanders simply come on here to make arguments without context and validity. When did 18 years become the definition of adulthood? How do you assume to judge events of thousands of years ago by the standards of today? It clearly shows their inability to organize intelligent thought, let alone doing a proper critique of society, culture and morality. A lot of people who come here to cry "pedophilia!!" seem to have developed a sudden amnesia, forgetting that a lot of our mothers were married at about 10-13 years(not that they were having se.x then, but they were married or betrothed) old back in the villages. Now that we are priviledged to have an education, we suddenly assume that generations before should think like us and therefore be subject to our judgments and values which we ourselves have only recently adopted, not that we were raised up by them.

Frankly, I think these guys are suffering from some kind of inferiority complex, they are ashamed that they come from an "underdeveloped" culture, therefore they are overcompensating by acting like they personify all the western cultures and knowledge, so they can to look down on the rest of the "underdeveloped" folks and feel good about themselves. sad!!
Are you saying men you should go back to stone age so as to be in sync with their culture or something? Is marrying off a girl at 9 or 10 be continued if not why not?
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by ParisLove2(f): 9:07pm On Oct 27, 2012
tintingz: Lol. . .can you explain why the Jews(yahweh chosen people) intimate with 3yr old females?? Or why Yehweh impregnate 12yr old virgin Mary??

Are your proofs are?
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by ParisLove2(f): 9:22pm On Oct 27, 2012
cyrexx: what these muslims dont know is that their religion is a blatant defamation to humanity.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/837250_299316_450006131716402_1328059370_n_jpg9de643460e5bc44c76fc356db40cabd2
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by LagosShia: 10:02pm On Oct 27, 2012
nakash: Oh no I am wron The ruler of Iran Ayatollah Khomein married a 10 year old while he was 28 years to justify marriage to a pre pubicent gal. He decreed that a gal is better off when her first course occurs when she is married (in her marital home) . Imagine.

Khadija Saqafi was 16 years old when Ayatollah Khomeini married her.

As for the OP,this is a boring topic discussed over and over and refuted.was Aisha really 9 year old or far above that age? How old was Mary (as) when she conceived? And who determines at what age is marriage acceptable? And what was the age of consent in many parts of the western world about 100 years ago?

No need to keep repeating the facts even though the sickness people like "nakash" suffer from is very difficult to cure..please, you can please read:

https://m.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=202572269774784

https://www.nairaland.com/846958/tell-me-why-mohammed-married
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by Sweetnecta: 10:49pm On Oct 27, 2012
nakash will not stop. people lie him are afraid of the truth so they bury their hearts in lies and will not make any effort to come out of it. but we need to supplicate to Allah to help them and guide us that we do not go to their side because our trial is to struggle against deception of his type and their leading liar.
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by okeyxyz(m): 12:00am On Oct 28, 2012
Paris-Love:

Are you saying men you should go back to stone age so as to be in sync with their culture or something? Is marrying off a girl at 9 or 10 be continued if not why not?

If you are going to judge people of the "stone-age", then you MUST put yourself in the same "stone-age" as them, the same culture, same values, and only on these basis must you judge them. No more, no less. Any other standard would be either dishonest or unintelligent. Do not forget that everybody, whether muslim, christian, jew or pagan were all marrying "children" in this era.

Then again, who decides when somebody is classified a child or an adult? Is there a divine hand-down from some supreme entity that we must conform to? Societies simply make these laws and follow them. The western cultures have decreed that adulthood starts at 18, another culture will tell you that once a girls starts to menstruate, then she's become an adult and many of our villages still follow this tenet. I personally am a firm believer of the 18 year rule, but anybody who labels another a "pe.dophile" just because he's not conforming to western values is either dishonest or unintelligent(as I stated before).
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by ParisLove2(f): 4:52am On Oct 28, 2012
okeyxyz:

If you are going to judge people of the "stone-age", then you MUST put yourself in the same "stone-age" as them, the same culture, same values, and only on these basis must you judge them. No more, no less. Any other standard would be either dishonest or unintelligent. Do not forget that everybody, whether muslim, christian, jew or pagan were all marrying "children" in this era.

I agree that morality is relative and we should not judge the ancient people’s morality with our modern morality. But, if sleeping with a nine year old child was not deemed bad and therefore was not considered immoral, was it ok? Muslims are advised to follow the Sunnah of
the Prophet. You say that the Prophet was a 'stone age' man following the traditions of his culture, the very ones he called ignorant,so what he did was right in that
context. But by following him now aren’t we perpetuating those unfit and outdated customs of ancient times? Pedophilia is only one of the gifts of Islam to humanity, take for example in Iran, Shortly after Ayatollah Khomeini’s revolution, he lowered the marriage age for girls from eighteen years old down to nine years old. Why would these devout Muslims do such a thing? Did they stray from original Islamic ideals?

Then again, who decides when somebody is classified a child or an adult? Is there a divine hand-down from some supreme entity that we must conform to? Societies simply make these laws and follow them. The western cultures have decreed that adulthood starts at 18, another culture will tell you that once a girls starts to menstruate, then she's become an adult and many of our villages still follow this tenet.
You don't need any 'hand-down' to know that a 9yr old is still a child unless you're mòron which of course you're not. Mentruation does not indicate adulthood. Menarche can start as early as 8yrs old, so it would be downright evil to say that a 8yr old girl is an adult and ready for marriage.. To illustrate how dangerous this practice is, consider the reality of fistula, a disease which is very common among young girls EVEN if they have begun menstruation. Western law doesn't necessary mean that adulthood starts at 18. It would be foolish to think that at 17 years 354 days a person is a child. The laws were put in place to stop perverts from legally molesting children. It's rather surprising you can't seem to define who a child is. Is a 9yr old an adult?
Personally am a firm believer of the 18 year rule, but anybody who labels another a "pe.dophile" just because he's not conforming to western values is either dishonest or unintelligent.
This has nothing to do with western values, marrying a child in those time is unethical then at is now.
According to Dictionary.com Pedophilia is : :
The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sëxual activity with a child or children.
As for the bold that hypocrisy must stop. You either believe that what Muhammad did is right and the world should follow him now and for ever, or stop calling him a good example for mankind to follow.
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by tintingz(m): 5:19am On Oct 28, 2012
^^ LOL! all for argument sake. . .can you tell us why the catholic don't marry and accepted homosexualism quoting from Jesus Gospel grin
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by ParisLove2(f): 5:22am On Oct 28, 2012
What the hell are you talking about? Am not catholic
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by LagosShia: 9:15am On Oct 28, 2012
@Paris-Love

Please can you tell us what year the word "paedophilia" was coined and came into existence?

Secondly,after the islamic revolution in iran,the age of consent was lowered.but presently the age is 16 for girls.also,in the west the age of consent was 10! And later increased.now each person differs in physical and mental maturity.its an individual case.you may find a girl at 10 that is very ripe and mature while another isn't at 13.they have done the right thing to be on the safe side in making the age of consent at 16 as a general rule.however even at 9,there is still parent discretion.parents would not give out their girl if they think she's mature enough to bear marriage.

Besides,historically Aisha is reported to have been 15,16 or even 19 as at the time she got married to the Prophet (sa).you can see that these records on age are not all reliable and there could be motive for that.if you would have reviewed the two links I earlier presented you will see many more details.
Re: Today Anti Islam Topic Is About Paedophila by tintingz(m): 12:28pm On Oct 28, 2012
^^LagosShia and Okeyxyz i think this gentiles should be ignored just what fellis said the op just escaped from yaba left care and a lier said by sweetnecta. . .the hypocrite nakash was not even present in his thread. . .i asked paris-love why catholic don't marry and support homosexualism, if you are not catholic, catholism is you cuz they are the origin of christianity and they brought it to Africa through colonial slavery. . .BTW if 18yrs of age is the current begining of maturity by the westerns then what will be the mature age in the future??

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