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|Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by NWFX(m): 6:10am On Jan 16, 2012|
Now, i don't if this issue has ever been brought up in this forum,chances are that it may have but just incase,i'll ask anyways.Given the history of Muhammad and Aisha,Was he truly a pedophile? Now there's a ton of arguments out there, like some saying that Aisha was more than 9 when he first had sex with her and so on, but given that the same kinds of practices where little girls as young as 9 are given up for marraige is prevalent in muslim countries including ours and especially in the northern part of the country,that i concur may have been his legacy even if u argue he wasn't.so What do u think?
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by NWFX(m): 6:17am On Jan 16, 2012|
Are u kidding me? , who ever changed the topic? this Admin sef, The word is "Pedophile" and not "craddle-robber"
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by NWFX(m): 6:24am On Jan 16, 2012|
oh i get it , well SOme of you would've have heard the argument and know what i'm talking about.The real word is prohibited on nairaland, it keeps changing to "craddle robber"but emmmm we can still make sence without the word.Just don't get confused i didn't use the word "craddle Robber".Admin(Moderator) changed it!!!
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by NWFX(m): 6:32am On Jan 16, 2012|
ok Lets try "Padofile","pidofyl","predator","child grabber","child baiter","child marraige" let's see if the software picks it up.i think i made my point though.
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by bright007(f): 9:20am On Jan 16, 2012|
*Muhammed was just more dan å craddle robber.
How can old man of his age profess love to å girl of nine?It is more of child abuse.
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by LagosShia: 9:32am On Jan 16, 2012|
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by LagosShia: 9:33am On Jan 16, 2012|
four other threads where this same accusation the missionary like repeating of Aisha being 9 years old at her marriage was refusted-all bearing the mark of "frosbel":
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by LagosShia: 9:33am On Jan 16, 2012|
THE REASON BEHIND THE FABRICATIONS THAT AISHA WAS 9 YEARS WAS GIVEN AS YOU CAN SEE IN MY POST FROM ANOTHER THREAD BELOW:
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by LagosShia: 9:35am On Jan 16, 2012|
TURNING THE TABLES ON THE IGNORANT CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES:
HOW OLD WAS MARY WHEN SHE CONCEIVED MIRACULOUSLY?
Mary was 12 or 13 years old! so says the Catholic Encyclopaedia and the Oxford Dictionary Bible.
furthermore,Mary (at a tender age) was engaged to Joseph who was at that time 90 years old!!!!
Regarding the Marriage of Mary to Joseph, Catholic Encyclopaedia(http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm), says:
"When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, "the Lord's brother". A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse [b]Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age, Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, [/b]went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place."
Note: That article on Catholic Encyclopaedia obtains its information from early Christian writing .
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by LagosShia: 9:38am On Jan 16, 2012|
so based on the age of Mary as those links in the last post i presented and the christian logic confirm that the christian god has committed the following offenses:
1.) he snatched another man's wife
2.) he was a pe.dophille
3.) he was a ra.pist
4.) he committed in.cest,see here:
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by Sweetnecta: 11:24am On Jan 16, 2012|
^^^^^^^Each time I see your response to the lies against our Lord, His Deen, His Messenger [as] I say Alhamdullah that I am a muslim because it is a disaster to be in a different religion than what you are on.
I do pray for you my dear brother and since it is my choice and no one has control over my tongue except Allah Alone, I asked that He accepts my prayers for you and yours, the Ummah of Muhammad [as] as a whole, forgiving us by it, covering us with His Mercy by it, making our affairs easy on us in this life, counting us among the martyrs regardless of when and how old we are when death comes for our souls, returning them to the Owner of the Soul. That Allah let our stay in the grave easier including lightening its trial and on the Day of Judgment to assemble us as from the Assahbi Yemini who are described as Thulathun akhirin of Surah Waqiah. Keep fighting them. You are true lion of your time. A fighter for right. So are all the Muslims on this board.
Now to the mudslingers, we created 2 threads already giving you the chance to educate us about your religion. Not a singe one of you have seized the opportunity to inform us of what is it that we need to know so that we can reject Islam and become like you. Today, i spoke to a friend in Nigeria who has just became muslim, less than 3 weeks ago. From her lips, what she knows is that her heart is more at peace now than it was before she accepted Islam. It is right there in Lagos and she is a core Igbo woman of nobility.
While Plappville is flapping her gums, Frosbel is freely lying and davidylan is in the denial mode, Islam is turning/make the bend into Igboland and it will establish success among them, whether you like it or not, unless you are not under the heavens, on top of the earth of Allah, and breathing and sustaining your existence from what Allah provides.
My last thread is coming up. If Lagosshia is up to it, he can open the thread and may Allah reward him for whatever decision he makes. I want the Thread to be titled; Oh Christians, invite us accept your religion if it is absolutely from God.
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by goggs(m): 4:05pm On Jan 16, 2012|
LagosShia, PANTS ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
once again you are caught pants down
You looovvveeeee quoting passages in isolation to trick gullible readers.
Here is the full passage from http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15464b.htm
It will not be without interest to recall here, unreliable though they are, the lengthy stories concerning St. Joseph's marriage contained in the apocryphal writings. When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, "the Lord's brother". A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place. These dreams, as St. Jerome styles them, from which many a Christian artist has drawn his inspiration (see, for instance, Raphael's "Espousals of the Virgin", are void of authority; they nevertheless acquired in the course of ages some popularity; in them some ecclesiastical writers sought the answer to the well-known difficulty arising from the mention in the Gospel of "the Lord's brothers"; from them also popular credulity has, contrary to all probability, as well as to the tradition witnessed by old works of art, retained the belief that St. Joseph was an old man at the time of marriage
And what are apocryphal writings?
Apocrypha writings are heretical writings that sought to add to the gospels of Christ by portraying him to have carried out more miracles than he really did, more apostles, miraculous things about Mary and so on. (also part of the Gnostic Gospels) These were rejected by early Church fathers and so till today have remained in the realm of history. Their application gained some traction in Arabia by indigenous early Christians. ( For the relationship between the Apocrypha writings and the Quran see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_Infancy_Gospel ). Of course the falsehood couldn't stand for long and has since been proved false.
So what the encyclopedia is doing is to list all the heretical and false gospels concerning the Mary and Joeseph. Being an encyclopaedia, its on an academic enquiry. next time read the whole text.
Unlike in the Arab World, in-depth enquiry is allowed as facts breeds faith.
Compare this with;
Dr. Taha Hussein (November 14, 1889—October 28, 1973) nicknamed "Dean of Arabic Literature" was one of the most influential 20th century Egyptian writers and intellectuals,.
See the difference, academic enquiry is not a problem in Christian world.
Next time you want to quote read the whole passage to gain an insight, OK?
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by LagosShia: 9:41pm On Jan 17, 2012|
you have really made no sensible point.in fact you have only given me more bullets to shoot.let me make the following points to finish you off:
1.) just as the words you are pointing to show that the record concerning the marriage of Joseph,"husband of Mary",is disputed,likewise the writings pointing to Aisha's age at 6 or 9 years old are also unreliable because there are contradictory records on her age.there are records which are historic which point that Aisha could have been 16 to 19 years old at the time of her marriage.are there records to show that Mary was anything older than 12-14 years old and Joseph anything less than 90 years old? i have seen none.
2.) any writing that does not suit the church and their doctrines,from "gospels" or books that support arianism,refutes the trinity,crucifxion,and other roman catholic imposed doctrines are called apocrypha.why should anyone in his right senses follow what the church says and believe a book or record is an apocrypha because the church says so? who determines what is and what is not "apocrypha"? based on what conditions and why?
3.) for as long as christians exploit contradictory records on the marriage of Aisha to attack the person of our Prophet (sa),it is only fair and just for us to also make use of records which expose the tender age of Mary,the old age of Joseph and the conception of Mary to rub on the faces of christians.
4.) whether you agree with those records or not,is none of my business for so long as you do not have any record to prove that Mary was older than 12-14 years old and Joseph was younger than 90 years old.but as for us muslims,we have records which are reasonable and logical and can be relied upon that show that Aisha when she was married by the Prophet (sa) was 16-19 years old and may be even older based on calculations.so you can do yourself good by bringing us proof that Mary was not 12-14 years old and Joseph was not 90 years old at the time of their engagement and when Mary conceived Jesus miraculously.if you cannot provide us with evidence contrary to the record the church deems apocrypha then you have no excuse not to accept that record.calling it "apocrypha" without presenting another historic record to show otherwise amounts to running away!!!
it is evident that had the church had any reliable or acceptable or any record at all that puts the age of Mary older and that of Joseph younger,they would have presented the record instead of showing us record on their ages which they later turn and twist to call "apocrypha".them presenting what they call "apocrypha" on such an important subject,shows that they are out of words and record.it is also worth noting that,many reliable records and "gospels" existed from the early centuries of christianity which were rejected by the church because they did not appeal to their line of thinking and the doctrines they invented in their councils and the bible books they selected and voted for to add into the "canon of the bible" and the new testament.so really,i am not here to even debate what is acceptable or not to the church and christians knowing their method and history of cherry-picking to form their bible and doctrines.the point is there is record to make my case and counter your attack convincingly.
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by goggs(m): 11:07pm On Jan 17, 2012|
DUde, I aint gonna argue with you on this: why? the text where you copied from are clear. NO NEED FOR ADDITION, SUBTRACTION OR CONJUNCTURE.
@ Boded: Then why show them at all if they had something to hide?
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by goggs(m): 11:13pm On Jan 17, 2012|
Muhammad dreamt of Aisha before soliciting her from her father.
Aisha’s father did not approve at first
Aisha was not the only one Muhammad thought about
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by goggs(m): 11:21pm On Jan 17, 2012|
Muslim (8:3311) - The girl Aisha took her dolls with her to Muhammad's house.
Sahih Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and handle her.
The permanent committee for scientific research and religious sanctions:
These are not my words oh!
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by LagosShia: 11:37pm On Jan 17, 2012|
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by goggs(m): 11:41pm On Jan 17, 2012|
""A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the
girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from
having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts
such as pre-intimacy, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having
intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not
committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not
permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the
man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as
one of the man’s four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to
marry the girl’s sister.” - Ayatollah Khomeini, “Tahrir- ol-vasyleh”, Volume 4, Darol Elm, Qom, Iran, 1990, p. 221.
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by LagosShia: 12:18am On Jan 18, 2012|
so after being exposed that you are spreading forgeries in the links i presented above,you are still spreading them here?
you are desperate!!!
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by goggs(m): 12:20am On Jan 18, 2012|
""A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the
Spot the difference
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by LagosShia: 9:30am On Jan 18, 2012|
you are either the dumbest christian on nairaland or trying to be one.
simply because you saw a website with the word "iranian" you thought you got a catch or may be it is an islamic website.quite on the contrary,the website is an anti-islamic and anti-iranian and anti-Khomeini,anti-revolution website by iranian-persian nationalists.
you just need to read the comments under the so called "quotations" which are evident forgeries for you to see that even wikipedia removed the quotations because they are fabrications attributed to the book of Ayatollah Khomeini (RA).
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by Judek2(m): 6:16pm On Jan 19, 2012|
Simply because he wanted to enjoy it fresh.
His old wife Khadija was no longer fresh,so goes to his sons wife, and other women too may have been old.
The old man needed a young, untouched and fresh maiden.
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by deols(f): 6:34pm On Jan 19, 2012|
can u explain that pls and soon too, and preferably in your own words
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by Judek2(m): 9:57pm On Jan 19, 2012|
Whats so hard to understand there, that needs my explanation?
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by LagosShia: 10:02pm On Jan 19, 2012|
leave him to dwell in ignorance.let the world see the kind of people attacking Islam.
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by Judek2(m): 10:11pm On Jan 19, 2012|
And let the world see how I'm lying against the Holy Prophet?
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by LagosShia: 10:18pm On Jan 19, 2012|
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by Judek2(m): 10:38pm On Jan 19, 2012|
Posted by: goggs
What an innocent child.
Damn!! He must be arrested!!
Life inprisonment. For child s.e.xual abuse.
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by LagosShia: 11:46pm On Jan 19, 2012|
christian hate fabrications exposed:
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by mamagee3(f): 11:49pm On Jan 19, 2012|
Cause he wanted to marry someone young!!!
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by Judek2(m): 7:45am On Jan 20, 2012|
Nonsence. . Your links are useless.
As young as 9 years ,the man must be s.exually possesed.
|Re: Tell me why Mohammed married a young Aisha? by LagosShia: 10:05am On Jan 20, 2012|
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