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Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Osiris211: 2:56pm On Nov 04, 2012
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Why edit your post? anyway, I have it in my next post.
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Osiris211: 3:02pm On Nov 04, 2012
why is south east not better than other regions? Are they dominated by aliens? Typical of ibo man to justify his criminality.



lol say what you want but Nigeria was 100x better country under 'igbo
domination' than the 'domination' of any other tribe.
railroads worked
people worked
leaders worked
the country was respected
the country was safe
currency worked
civil service worked
Fresh off independence till the civil war, Nigeria worked. The minor
amount of corruption and tribalism that had outraged Nzeogwu is
child's play compared to today and everything during the post was
period.
In the way the yoruba are not the leading activists against 'igbo
domination', how has northern domination served you? Was Ironsi
and Nzeogwu worst that Abacha, and Babangida? How many of your
leaders have been killed by northerners as opposed to igbos? Did
igbos kill Awolowo the way northerners killed Abiola? Dele Giwa?
If you look at feudal states like Kwara and Kogi you can see the
yoruba has long excepted that northerners are their superior and
rightful leaders, never raising a hair about the deeply ingrained
cultural feudalism and second hand citizenship they have in their own
states but they're ready to fight because igbos buy homes in Lagos
legally. Pardon Igbos for being the only free major tribe in Nigeria and
not willing to except feudalism. We know where the enemy is, you
don't, that's the difference.
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by PROUDIGBO(m): 3:05pm On Nov 04, 2012
All these awo-apologists and revisionists never fail to amaze me; Igbos are this and that yet fought to bring them back into this cursed entity?.....you fought to share a country with the very people you despise?

We now have a 'nation' that certain bastards fought for that us the laughing stock of the entire civilised world; a nation that celebrates corruption, criminality, nepotism, laziness, religious fundamentalism, and all sorts of vices to numerous to mention.....a 'nation' from hell, yet some deluded fools still want us to remain as one.

To be one country no be by force!

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Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Abagworo(m): 3:08pm On Nov 04, 2012
Osiris.211:
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why is south east not better than other regions? Are they dominated by aliens? Typical of ibo man to justify his criminality.




With zero federal presence, IMHO apart from roads, Southeast has done quite well knowing fully well that it was reduced to rubbles as at 1970 and nobody had more than 20 pounds. Apart from Southeast proper, outside SE zone, Igbos have acquired large chunk of landed properties and invested across the country more than any other zone in Nigeria.

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Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Osiris211: 3:09pm On Nov 04, 2012
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Always looking for scapegoat to justify their failures. try again!

Never knew that the bright ibos will have to look up to federal government before building roads in south east.
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Osiris211: 3:09pm On Nov 04, 2012
90% of crimes in Nigeria is committed by ibos. try again!


PROUD-IGBO:
All these awo-apologists and revisionists never fail to amaze me; Igbos are this and that yet fought to bring them back into this cursed entity?.....you fought to share a country with the very people you despise?

We now have a 'nation' that certain bastards fought for that us the laughing stock of the entire civilised world; a nation that celebrates corruption, criminality, nepotism, laziness, religious fundamentalism, and all sorts of vices to numerous to mention.....a 'nation' from hell, yet some deluded fools still want us to remain as one.

To be one country no be by force!

You can as well tell your brothers to move back to south east.
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by tunnytox(m): 3:09pm On Nov 04, 2012
The reviewer is not a Nigerian! This is no doubt a very accurate and unbiased review of the book. Achebe has proved himself as an unrepentant tribalist. Achebe's lies will continue to be laid bare, stupeed old f00l

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Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by KENESAGA(m): 3:10pm On Nov 04, 2012
in this article, the writer kept saying that igbos have been entering and dominating other tribes teritory, now the question is, has igbos ever forcefully taken any ppl's land, was it not the ppl that were selling their lands to igbos, i don't think that most ppl that are calling Achebe a triabalist know what tribalism is. Anyway, that's his opinion, let them keep on writing, Achebe has spoken his mind.

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Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by tunnytox(m): 3:12pm On Nov 04, 2012
9ja voice: the igbo control in the centre then is as a result of capability not nepotism.

igbos are the most educated tribe then, remember b4 independence things were like that.

british people need capability and found it in igbos even with their hatred of igbos they were without a choice.

its clear that when igbos were in charge there is growth and prosperity in he nation.

but now hausa,yoruba and fulani were in control what do we have? failed state.

whose fault?

igbo this igbo that every where. even the fulani turn yoruba man alj harem.

Lies! There are lots and lots of other capable Nigerians us nothing but 'have it all for myself' attitudes if the Ibos then. They even resort to using ibo language as lingua franca in govt ministries then
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by M17: 3:21pm On Nov 04, 2012
Osiris.211:
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Why edit your post? anyway, I have it in my next post.



WE WILL BEAT YOU HANDS DOWN IN YOUR HATE WAR WITH IGBO , EARLIER WE STAY AWAY FROM YORUBAS IS EARLIER WE AVOID WAR WITH YORUBA'S .BECAUSE IT GOING TO BE DEVASTATING ,YORUBA'S DON'T WANNA LEAVE IGBO'S ALONE BREATH CLEAN AIR ,YORUBA'S WISH IGBO'S ARE HUMILIATED EVERY WHERE ,DON'T BE SURPRISE IT IS LIKE A COMPETITION THEY HAVE RESOLVED WITHIN THEMSELVES TO CONTINUE USING THIS HATEFUL ACCUSATION AGAINST THE IGBO'S .MOST OF THE 419 CALLS AND E-MAIL COMING FROM NIGERIA HAVE BEEN TRACED TO NIGERIA WITH HUGE POPULATION OF YORUBA'S INVOLVED IN IT ,C.N.N CABLE NEWS HAS ALL THIS INFORMATION , I HAD 4,000 EMAIL WROTE BY GROUP OF YORUBA'S TO MY YAHOO EMAIL ,MILLION'S WHITE PEOPLE AND ASIANS HAS KEEP VARIOUS VOICE RECORDING PRECISELY TO BE YORUBA MAN ENGLISH ACCENT , AND THEY'VE BEEN MAKING FUN OF NIGERIAN'S USING THOSE YORUBA ENGLISH ACCENT ,VERY FUNNY HOW ORUBAS HAVE SENDING SWAT'S OF STOLEN CREDIT CARD I.D S FORWARDED ON A DAILY BASIS TO MILLION'S OF AMERICAN ASKING THEM TO CASH SOME FAKE CHECKS IN RETURN FOR COMPENSATION IT IS NOTED ALREADY BY FBI ,TRY AND ACCEPT ONE EMAIL AND DISGUISE LIKE YOU WANNA FALL FOR THEM AND SEE FOR YOUR SELF THAT THIS YORUBA'S HAS ORGANIZE YAHOO YAHOO YORUBA ORIGIN CELL IN ATLANTA ,MIAMI ,NEW YORK ,LOS ANGELES .YORUBA'S ARE DENTING NIGERIA IMAGE DO THIS RESEARCH BY YOUR SELF .

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Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by MrGlobe(m): 3:31pm On Nov 04, 2012
Osiris.211:
90% of crimes in Nigeria is committed by ibos. try again!




You can as well tell your brothers to move back to south east.
ok, very good, what type of crimes do you need? Lets start with economic crimes Bankole, obasanjo, patricia etteh, awolowo, Tinubu, bode george, sunday ehindero, bode george, iyabo obasanjo, alao akala, ade bendrl, Salami, ogunlewe etc. bring your own list for igbos. I'll wait.



@topic, clearly we can see what shame and desperation is turning yarobas into, hiring a foreigner to write our history. The fact is thr yaroba image has been dealt an irreparable blow with this Achebe's factual memoir both nationally and internationally and no amout of propaganda can erase that. its time up for Yoruba manipulations, this is a moment of truth. The more lies you bring, the more foolish you look, for instance how will a sane man want me to believe reviews from a kenyan and take it athoritatively, that is the height of madness, eveb though the revie is flawed understandably, I wont waste my time to address it. There are more problems in kenya, the kenyan should worry about ---- thats for those who really believe he is kenyan or os not selling his name to another yaroba fraud grin. May God continue to bless Achebe and may he live long

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Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by MrGlobe(m): 3:36pm On Nov 04, 2012
KENESAGA: in this article, the writer kept saying that igbos have been entering and dominating other tribes teritory, now the question is, has igbos ever forcefully taken any ppl's land, was it not the ppl that were selling their lands to igbos, i don't think that most ppl that are calling Achebe a triabalist know what tribalism is. Anyway, that's his opinion, let them keep on writing, Achebe has spoken his mind.
dont mind the deluded Yoruba writer, chinese people are flooding the us, there is a china town in the us but deluded folks will be talking about igbos in dirty and poverty ravaged lagos, like lagos is paris, nonsense.

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Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Standing5(m): 4:22pm On Nov 04, 2012
Contrary to what some want us to believe, Nigeria was never under any real Igbo domination, igbos never accounted for profits made by other regions or feed other regions. Infact there were allegation high handedness in their dealings.
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Abagworo(m): 4:26pm On Nov 04, 2012
Mr. Globe:

for instance how will a sane man want me to believe reviews from a kenyan and take it athoritatively, that is the height of madness, eveb though the revie is flawed understandably, I wont waste my time to address it. There are more problems in kenya, the kenyan should worry about ----


Kenya has a whole lot of ethnic groups similar to the less intelligent ethnic groups in Nigeria. Those groups unanimously hate another resilient ethnic group known as Kikuyu. It is very likely that the writer is a Luo or another tribe in Kenya.
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by dBard: 9:31pm On Nov 04, 2012
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by EkoIle1: 9:53pm On Nov 04, 2012
[quote author=]Can we let this rest? a man wrote about his 70+ long life, and the rest of the country is stuck in the debates of 1962[/quote]

It's the old and bitter man who is stuck in 1962 hence his fixation on and distortions of decades old event.
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by MrGlobe(m): 10:05pm On Nov 04, 2012
Eko Ile:

It's the old and bitter man who is stuck in 1962 hence his fixation on and distortions of decades old event.
die.. lmao. Achebe is the truth. he is a god and legend whether you like it, whether you dont like it :p
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Olaolufred(m): 9:25am On Nov 05, 2012
Chinua Achebe actually got it wrong.
A good writer he is. A respected one at that.
I think the only edge soyinka has over him in literature is just the Nobel Laurate Award.
However,He allowed emotions to rule in this latest book of His.
I still respect him.
Only that I wouldn't have wished him delved into ochestrating a tribal war in an official way.
This was the same thing said of Buhari's inciting the northern youths.
But Achebe seems to be doing same in a written form.
I RESPECT YOU AS AN ELDER. TO ERR IS HUMAN.
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by ochukoccna: 1:37pm On Nov 05, 2012
Below is Sam Omatseye's take on Achebe's book.While Achebe threw away the opportunity to give a balanced view of the Nigerian civil war, one thing that the book brings out is the Igbos are still embittered and Nigeria needs to speak with each other if we are stay as one.
Enjoy Sam's take on Achebe

A few years back when I ran a column on 40 years of Biafra, my cell phone crashed from invectives of malicious fury. The overwhelming line from the rage was that I exercised the temerity to address a matter that I should have left in the grove of silence. I had tackled the Nigerian civil war and the opportunities missed for peace instead of the headlong rush to hostilities and I fingered Odumegwu Ojukwu and the genocidal bigots of the North for blame.

Ironically, when Chinua Achebe published his now tempestuous work, There Was A Country, the Yoruba intelligentsia and political elite were up in arms, clobbering him for not keeping silent on issues like his charge of genocide on Obafemi Awolowo.

I welcome this debate. Achebe brought his grand image as role model and Africa’s preeminent novelist to bear in his book. After reading, I discovered a wasted opportunity. His haunting style and limpid prose fell prey to a tendentious logic. Mostly, the book is marked by what he did not say than what he said. For a book that generated storm for its boldness, its lack of virtue derives from well-calibrated silences. For instance, he condemned the absence of the civil war from school curriculums. But he did confront some fundamental issues of the Nigerian crisis of the 1960s.

The first was the pogrom. Igbo died in droves but the circumstances of that dark cloud of our history still loom over us. Nothing even Aburi, where Yakubu Gowon and Ojukwu parleyed like adversaries, tackled them. If important numbers of an ethnic group dissolved in the genocidal savagery from another ethnic group, how did anyone expect the nation to go on without justice being visited on those involved? It was a mercurial moment as Igbo ran away from what they thought was home. Tears, blood with carion flesh was Igbo in their own country. Relatives saw relatives expire just before they too vanished under the prejudice of knives, daggers and guns.

Ojukwu was urged to ask Igbo to return to their various towns and businesses outside Igboland when no one had prosecuted the murderers. They wanted a nation built on a lie. The Igbo decision to go to war was difficult to fault. When the civil war came, there were stories of insensate killings. Federal generals lined up men, women and children and executed them in cold blood. All of these were well-documented. Rape, beatings, arson and other manifestations of abuse became routine parts of the story in eastern Nigeria.

When the war ended, Gowon did not address these issues. He was only interested in bringing Ojukwu to trial, which reinforced the suspicions by historians that the egos of Ojukwu and Gowon overwhelmed any sense of propriety on the eve of the war. Gowon denied ever knowing of the barbarous cruelties of his generals who even defended their actions openly. Why were they never brought to trial? If Ojukwu and his men on the Biafrain side committed offences against the Geneva Convention, why was he also not brought to book on his own show of ruthless hubris?


The militancy in the Niger Delta, the ethno-sectarian blisters in Jos as well as the eruptions of Boko Haram come from a nation that failed to address the fundamental issues that ruptured the nation in the 1960s.

Up till today, all those who committed war crimes or genocide in the Second World War are being tracked around the world and tried. The Balkan crisis of over a decade ago still makes headlines today with the trials of generals like Karadzic. After the Rwandan earth clotted with brotherly blood, the nation could not be reborn without cleansing the past with trials and prosecutions. South Africa had its truth and reconciliation moments.

If Ojukwu’s goal was secession, why did he occupy the neutral Midwest with all the tales of rape, harassment, curfew? Achebe wrote as though he had no evidence. It seemed Ojukwu wanted the Midwest oil? Why was he heading for Lagos?

Achebe’s book has presented us with an opportunity. Too much malice festers in the Nigerian blood for us to look across ethnic aisles as a fraternal brood. We still evince what novelist Sembene Ousmane calls the “perfidy of lies and hypocrisy of rivals.”

It is out of that tainted blood that Achebe churns out what should have been another masterpiece from the storied author. We cannot also address the pogrom without addressing some of the issues that triggered it. Did the Hausa-Fulani fear the ascendancy of the Igbo, and was that the reason for the thirst for Igbo blood? Was the Nzeogwu-led coup an Igbo agenda or the coincidence of more Igbo officers at the prime? Achebe failed to address the issue comprehensively. He did not drop an ink on why it failed in the east.


Read the rest here
http://thenationonlineng.net/new/sam-omatseye/the-fog-of-war/

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Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Dede1(m): 3:52pm On Nov 05, 2012
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Chinua Achebe is a great writer, with well thought out and concise work that is well presented and easy to read. However while his writing talent is unquestioned, I really feel his views in this book are biased and will result in the increase of tribalism, hence corruption and suffering of his beloved Igbo ethnic group as well as all Nigerians. Therefore he fails in his attempt to create unity and reduce tribalism and corruption which he so loathes.

In the Chapter "The Role of the Writer in Africa", he says that a writer should align himself with the weak and powerless against the strong. This is an agreeable point. However, he tries to cast his Igbo people as the victims in Nigeria while ignoring the sufferings of other ethnic groups brought upon by the Igbos. This is not a recipe for national reconciliation.

In the Chapter "Cradle of Nigerian Nationalism", he tries to cast the Yoruba Leader, Chief Alowolo as a tribal leader who reunited his ancient Yoruba people "with a powerful glue of resuscitated ethnic pride, hence creating the "Action Group" political party that reduced the dominance of the Igbo dominated NCDC. The irony here is that Achebe sees no problem with the NCDC being Igbo dominated while he complains about the Action Group being Yoruba dominated. This double standards is not a recipe for national reconciliation.

In the same chapter, while calling Alowolo's Action group a tribal party, he says, without any misgivings, that it also galvanized support from not only the Yoruba, but also the Riverline and minority groups in the Niger delta who "dreaded the prospects of Igbo political domination". This proves two points. That the Action Party was not an exclusive Yoruba tribal party like the NCDC was becoming. Second, that the Riverline and Minority eastern Tribes "dreaded" the prospect of Igbo domination. So the Igbo's are starting to look, not like the poor victims, but a ruthless tribe that will dominate others with impunity. Again, Mr Achebe's biased, pro-igbo views will not improve unity in Nigeria.

In the chapter "The Decline", Mr Achebe says that the original idea of a "One Nigeria" at independence was pressed by Eastern (read Igbo) leaders and intellectuals, especially Nnamdi Azikiwe. This is true because the Igbo were dominating every sector in Nigeria and they saw that a unified Nigeria would benefit them. They did not care about what other tribes felt.

Initially, the the Northerners led by the Sardauna, Ahmadu Bello, resisted the idea of a "One Nigeria". Achebe tries to cast the Northerners as short sighted and not working to remove the British colonist, but their objections were based on a legitimate and true fear of dominance by the Igbo. Why would the northerners want to remove one oppressor, the British (who were actually competent and knew how to run a non-corrupt government), and bring in another oppressor, the Igbo ( who were corrupt and tribalistic)?. So Mr Achebe, your Igbo leaders should have been less greedy and less short sighted and tried to understand why the Northerners resisted a One Nigeria idea. Maybe the whole Nigerian people would be in a better position today.

Don't take my word for it. Just listen to the Sardauna in his own words here ( [...] ) explaining the legitimate fear the northerners have about the Igbo. I think the Igbo, instead of arrogantly dismissing such feelings, should have taken them into consideration and tried to live in harmony with other tribes instead of trying to dominate them.

In the chapter named "January 15, 1966 Coup", Mr Achebe shows his extremely biased attitude in favor of his Igbo tribe. This is the classic definition of a tribalist. He tries to minimize the January 15, 1966, coup as one led by "junior officers" protesting corruption, but he fails to accurately portray the tribal nature of that coup. The Sardauna , Sir Ahmadu Bello and Samuel Akintola, the greatest leaders of the North and West respectively were killed, along with numerous others from same regions, but there was no Igbo killed. Achebe says the coup was led by "junior officers most of them igbo" led by Major Chukwuma Nzeogwu from northern city of Kaduna. This is misleading. Major Nzeogwu was not a northerner. He was an Igbo born in Kaduna. Same applies to Emeka Ojukwu, Biafra's secessionist leader, an Igbo born in the North. So if he calls Nzeogwu a northerner, he should also call Ojukwu a northerner. This coup was a totally tribal affair and trying to say otherwise will not help improve the tribalism issues in Nigeria.

In the chapter "The Dark Days", Mr Achebe, having minimized the coup as "non-tribal and one led by Junior officers protesting corruption and decay", starts railing against other tribes when they took revenge, rightfully so, against the Igbos who had killed their most senior leaders. He says that in a country where tribalism is endemic, the "rumor of an Igbo Coup" began to gain acceptance. I find it unbelievable that Mr Achebe would take such a position. This January 1966 coup, WAS AN IGBO COUP, there is no doubt about it, and denying that will not further Achebe's goal of reducing tribalism in Nigeria.

In the same chapter, he says that other tribes started attacking Easterners, taking out their resentment against the Igbos who "had led the nation in every sector - politics, education, commerce and arts and had driven out the colonizing British from Nigeria". This comment brings two points to light. He tries to portray "Easterners" as one victimized group but this is not truth. As he said before, many minority Easterners "dreaded the prospect of Igbo domination", hence their joining of the Yoruba "Action Party" group.

Second point is that he tries to portray other tribes as being driven by envy at Igbo's success. Mr Achebe, remember the Igbos triggered this by launching a coup and killing people from other tribes. Second, a nation will never be united if one group dominates all the rest. This is the biggest mistake we have in Africa. One tribe tries to dominate and shut out others, the others fight back and we all end up losing, just as we see in Nigeria, and so many African nations. So Mr Achebe, please try to be far sighted and use your talent to guide your Nigerian people (all tribes) to be more unified and not celebrate the Igbos for dominating the rest, and congratulating them for being superior, or for being the "Jews of Africa" as has been said before.

Mr Achebe then describes his experience leaving Lagos. For those who don't know, Lagos is in western Nigeria, in Yoruba land and many Igbos had settled there as well as many other parts of the country. However we don't hear of other tribes settling in Igboland. This skewed migration tendencies were bound to bring problems. It is a fact that migratory tribes in Africa never assimilate with their host tribes, unlike the United States where different people integrate, learning English and adopting a common mainstream culture.

So you when people from a different tribe come to your area, they are basically "not your neighbors" but an alien people just occupying your land. When Mr Achebe says he found it "a strange and powerful experience" when his non-igbo "neighbors" whom he lived with for decades started jeering him and saying that "food will be cheaper in Lagos" when Igbos leave, he is not being genuine. I can bet that he never socialized with the locals, learned their language, or tried to integrate with their culture. Even after living in Lagos for decades, he maintained his Igbo culture and language and probably had mostly Igbo friends. Not surprising, even his "intellectual non-igbo friends" said that he should have known what was coming to him as an Igbo.

This point about Tribalism is illustrated again when Mr Achebe, fleeing to the east, arrived in Benin City in the Mid-west and he says there was a "distinct atmospheric change". There he found Igbo policemen who welcomed him as a brother, cheering him, saying "Oga, thank you". They cheered him just because he was a prominent Igbo man, even if he spent most of his life in Lagos or other regions. I bet non-igbos living in the East would never receive such treatment. So Mr Achebe should realize that tribalism goes both ways. Everyone, even the Igbos are tribalistic. So we should accept that fact and then we can start discussing how we can live together with justice for everyone.

In the Chapter "A History of Ethnic Tension and Resentment", Mr Achebe clearly illustrates that there is something about the Igbo that makes other Nigerian tribes resent them so much. He points out that in his book, "The Trouble with Nigeria", that Nigerians will "achieve consensus in no other matter than their common resentment of the Igbo". He says that while the Yoruba had a huge historical and geographical head start, the Igbo, "in one fantastic burst of energy in the 20 years between 1930 and 1950" managed to wipe out that advantage. He also illustrates from the book by J.P Clark an image of "ants filing out of the wood", how the Igbo moved out of their forest home and scattered and virtually seized the floor.

This scenario, as I said before, is a recipe for disaster in Nigeria and other African countries. When one tribe starts to invade other peoples territories and due to cultural, language and other factors, start to dominate everything there, that will definitely create resentment and conflict. The Igbo's congratulate themselves for being "superior" and "competent", and for being able to dominate other tribes in a fair competition, but they should also know they are not very smart because other tribes will resents them and drive them out, just as it happened, and they will end up losing.

If Mr. Achebe is smart and loves Nigeria, he should not be celebrating Igbo "superiority" over other tribes. He should use his talents trying to think how different tribes can work together to ensure everyone gets a fair shake so that the whole nation can utilize its talents for the good of everybody.

To his credit however, he concedes that the Igbos are prone to "hubris and overweening pride, thoughtlessness, exhibitionism and disregard for humility and quietness" which can offend others.

However, he fails again because he continues to argue that in Nigeria's context, they "get the achievers (meaning Igbos) out and replace them with less qualified individuals from the desired ethnic background to gain access to resources of the state". I have heard this argument in Kenya where I come from, but it does not hold water.

First, achieving "access to resources of the state for all tribes" is the only good and fair thing to do. There is no reason why Igbo's should to take over all jobs just because they "are more qualified" because competence is not exclusive to only one tribe. I live in the US and can tell you that you will find smart people from all backgrounds, all tribes and all races.

Mr Achebe displays his scewed and totally wrong position by saying he was "dismayed" by a 1966 publication called "The Nigerian Situation: Facts and Background", which demonstrated the complete unfairness existing in Nigeria where 45% of managers were Igbo, over 50% of the posts in Nigerian Railways, over 70% of posts in Nigeria Ports Authority and foreign service were occupied by Igbos. Remember the Igbos account for only 18% of Nigeria's total Nigerian population.

I don't know why Mr Achebe would not find such discrepancies disturbing and why he would be "dismayed" when someone reveals them. The only reason I can think of is because his Igbo people were on the benefiting end of this. This again, Mr Achebe, is not the attitude you should adopt if you want a Nigeria for everyone.

In the Chapter "The Army", Mr Achebe again tries to minimize the "Igbo Coup" led by Major Nzeogwu saying that it was actually not an "Igbo coup". He tries to deny that Major Nzeogwu was an Igbo, saying that he was born in Kaduna (north) and spoke fluent Hausa and wore northern traditional dress. That did not stop him from massacring Northern and Western leaders like Sir Ahmadu Bello. Achebe also claims that the coup was stopped by General Aguiyi-Ironsi, an Igbo. However, he continues to note that General Ironsi refused to court martial the coup plotters and transfered them East where they were eventually released by Ojukwu. So Ironsi is not as non-tribal and fair as Mr Achebe tries to portray him.

After trying to minimize the "Igbo Coup", Mr Achebe goes all the way to condemn the resulting "counter coup" by northern officers to revenge the "Igbo Coup". He says the killing of General Ironsi and Fajuyi were part of a larger and bloody coup led by the northern General Murtala Mohamed. This kind of double standard is not lost on anyone. Once again, Mr Achebe fails by trying to unfairly promote his tribe and minimize their failings while maximizing their opponents failings. This will not result in a unified Nigeria.

In the Chapter "The Pogroms", Mr Achebe again goes overboard trying to minimize the "Igbo Coup" by saying that it was an "Idealistic Coup" that proved to be a disaster for the Igbo. I find it just unbelievable that a man of Mr Achebe's intelligence would not realize that his biased views will make other tribes think of him as just another unrepentant Igbo tribalist. Here again, he fails in his stated goal of unifying Nigeria for all its people.

In the Chapter "Aburi Accord", Mr Achebe claims that majority of the Easterners had grown contemptuous of General Gowon's federal government for its failure to bring the culprits of the mass murder in the North to Justice. While this may be true, he also fails to say that his beloved Igbo General Ironsi failed to bring the "Igbo Coup" plotters to justice when he had the chance. He even transferred them to the East where they were released. This kind of double standard, again is not going to promote unity in Nigeria.

In the chapter "The Nightmare Begins", after General Ojukwu seceded Biafra from Nigeria, General Gowon responded by declaring a state of emergency and dividing the nation into 12 states based on tribe. The federal government position was that this would foster unity and stability in Nigeria. This is actually a valid point. If different tribes have control of their areas and free from domination by other tribes, this can create stability, unity, justice and eventually success. However, the Igbos, arrogantly thinking that it was their birthright to dominate other tribes, saw this as "a Machiavellian Scheme to landlock Igbos into the East Central State and isolate them from oil producing areas", areas which in truth, don't belong to them.

Mr Achebe seems sympathetic to this Igbo view although he inadvertently validates the Federal government's point by saying that the Non-Igbo minority easterners "dreaded for years - the prospect of Igbo domination". So again, Mr Achebe fails by aligning himself with the Igbo desire to dominate others, which eventually led to the destruction of Nigeria, Igbos included.

In the Chapter "The Republic of Biafra", Mr Achebe shows his support for the secessionist nation of Birafra by defining the intellectual foundation of the new nation as one "which the supreme power lay with the citizens and respected the freedoms of all mankind". However he fails to mention the plight of more that 5 million minority Easterners in Biafra who "dreaded the prospect of Igbo domination for years".

He also mentions his admiration for president Nyerere of Tanzania who supported the new State of Biafra by standing for equality, self determination and respect for human values. The Biafra leaders would have been well served if they followed Nyerere's example. Nyerere succeeded in creating the only non-tribal country in Africa where there is no tribalism, unlike Biafra, which was founded as a result of extreme tribalism.

In the Chapter "Death of the Poet , Daddy don't let him die", Mr Achebe reveals a great irony. While he earlier described the "Igbo Coup" leader Major Nzeogwu as an "idealistic junior officer" whose thoughtless actions brought disaster to the Igbos, and while he earlier said that Major Nzeogwu was "an Igbo only by name", he now says that Nzeogwu's death in the war was a big blow to Biafra because he was a "darling and enigmatic hero who had risen from anonymity to legendary heights in a short period".

This reveals two things. That Mr Achebe was not too upset about the "Igbo Coup" itself, and the resulting massacre of people from other tribes, but was upset it eventually turned out badly for the Igbo, when other tribes took revenge. He also reveals that Major Nzeogwu, whom he earlier tried to dissociate with the Igbo on account of his being born in Kaduna (north), was actually regarded as a hero by his Igbo tribesmen. Again, Mr. Achebe reveals he is a tribalist and fails in his stated goal of uniting all Nigerians.

Mr Achebe tries to cast blame to everybody else other than the Igbo themselves. In the Chapter "The Silence of the United Nations", he bemoans how in October 1969, on the losing side, General Ojukwu desperately pleaded with the United Nations for mediation to no avail. His Opponent, General Gowon insisted on Biafra's surrender and rightly noted that "the rebel leaders had made it clear that it was a fight to the finish and no concessions will ever satisfy them". The Biafra Igbo rebels, in their "hubris, overweening pride, confidence and thoughtlessness" provoked a war and were not able to finish it. So they blame everybody else except themselves. Again, Mr Achebe fails. He is not interested in justice and truth, but in the welfare of only his Igbo people and not all Nigerians.

Nothing demonstrates the folly of tribalism better than the case of Nnamdi Azikiwe, Nigeria's first president, an Igbo. At independence, he campaigned against the British colonialists under a "One Nigeria" mantra, when it was beneficial for the Igbos because they were dominating other Nigerian tribes and taking over all resources. When things turned awry for the Igbos and they seceded, he suddenly forgot his earlier principles of "One Nigeria" and supported the new Igbo secessionist state of Biafra. However, he could not defend a challenge to his new position and had to turn back like a coward.

So in the Chapter "Azikiwe Withdraws Support for Biafra" Mr Achebe tries to blame British intellectuals in northern universities and the Nigerian Army for challenging Azikiwe to explain why he suddenly changed his lifelong beliefs of a "One Nigeria" and now supported the breaking of Nigeria. Azikiwe was unable to explain that and decided to withdraw his support for his tribesmen's new state. Again, Mr Achebe fails. He is not interested in fairness and principles to benefit all Nigerians, but will support whatever benefits the Igbo at that particular time.

The chapter named "1970 and the Fall" reveals the hypocrisy of Mr Achebe. He says that in the end, Biafra collapsed and there were thousands of children dying every day of starvation. He goes on to say that the "Notoriously incompetent Nigerian Government was not responding to those needs, and that with ill-advised Bravado, General Gowon was busy banning relief agencies that helped Biafra". I find this level of hypocrisy amazing. Where is Ojukwu in all this mess. He started the war, he was responsible for the death and starvation of millions of Biafrans. Remember Biafrans were fighting General Gowon and inflicted heavy casualties on his soldiers. So, to blame Gowon and completely forget the other responsible person, Ojukwu, is just unbelievable.

Some other points I wish to note are in the chapter named "Gowon Responds". He was asked about Igbo property being taken over by the Government of New Rivers State. Something was said to the effect that the people of that state "felt like tenants in their own state" because the Igbos owned everything there. Again I want to reiterate that there will be no united Nigeria (or other African countries) when some tribes start dominating others with impunity, and in their own territory no less.

In the Chapter "Nigeria's Painful Transitions: A Reappraisal" , Mr Achebe talks about the crime happening in his beloved, Igbo state of Anambra. He says it was encouraged by the federal government and by an unnamed former president of Nigeria, "whose attitude to this part of Nigeria, which he and some like him consider responsible for the troubles of Nigeria's Civil war".

Mr Achebe, I have news for you. This part of Nigeria IS RESPONSIBLE for the Nigerian Civil war. That is the truth and trying to deny it is folly. Again, you fail because this denial will not endear you to Nigerians of other tribes, hence will not help to create a unified Nigeria.

In one of your last chapters "State Resuscitation and Recovery" you ask how Nigeria can be salvaged and "bring all the human and material resources to bear on its development", how to end "organized ethnic bigotry" and "corruption". I am encouraged that you are thinking in this direction.

I am no expert in nation development and reconciliation, but I can tell you that TRIBALISM, like the one exhibited by the Igbo, is one of the main causes of our backwardness in Africa.

We have to deal with tribalism, ensure that no ethnic group moves to other ethnic group areas and try to dominate their resources. I believe the formation of states based on tribal lines will help. Or at least grouping together tribes that are in friendly terms and can live together in harmony. Then every tribe will control the resources in their state and ensure justice and welfare for their people and remove the danger of domination by other supposedly "more competent" tribes.

In conclusion, Mr Achebe is a great author, with superior talent. But he is also biased and is a tribalist. Here he fails like a majority of our other brilliant, (or not-so-brilliant) Africans leaders and intellectuals.

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When a so-called reviewer of books uses alias such as “mkioga” instead of real name which will expose the true identity of the person behind the moniker, I attribute nothing significant to such endeavor.

In the above nonsensical drivel, the writer come across as a fool who either believe in the word-dominated or phrase such as attempting to dominate. It is very clear the goofy writer needs to do much work so as to be able to differentiate NCDC from NCNC. I really do not fathom what gave the lapper the impetus to suggest the NCNC was Igbo-dominated political party when all the ministerial appointments based on the electoral victories of the party were dominated by Yoruba.

Again, mkioga made a fool out of him\herself by alluding that British were competent administrators. Yet he\she audaciously suggested Igbo dominated everything in the era in discussion. If Ndigbo dominated everything in Nigeria by then, it must be that either the British were partial in their dealings with would-be Nigerians or the Ndigbo were more qualified than others to do the work the “competent British” wanted them to perform.

In another stanza, the author indicated that “NCDC” was almost dominated by Igbo but failed to indicate the major premise of branding a political party tribal is rooted in the formation of such organization and progenitors of such political party. Action Group rose from the gathering of Egbe Omo Oduduwa while NPC rose from the Quadriiyya\Tijaniyya Islamic sects and Pilgrim association situated in their respective regions. In the other hand, NCNC originated from Lagos in Yoruba land and most of the principal stakeholders were Yoruba not Igbo. Yet, mkioga seemed foolish enough not to indicate the factors which compelled him\her to brand a party as Igbo dominated or dominating in the silly review.

The joker in mkioga can not eat his\her cake and have it. In one instance, mkioga branded the British as competent administrators and in another instance the joker seemed to accuse Ndigbo about the facts raised by the publication named “The Nigerian Situation: Facts and Background”. I shall remind the mkioga that Nigeria civil service was setup by the same people he\she referred as competent and there is doubt in my mind that British adopted the most stringent meritocracy when filing up positions wthiin Nigerian Railways or Nigerian Posts Authority.

I shall not get into splitting of hair with mkioga in the case of Nyerere of Tanzania and Biafran leaders. If Biafra had the same opportunity given to Tanzania to live as independent country, then the issue of emulation of Nyerere’s exemplary leadership should have come into this discussion. But given the fact that mikoga is a deluded drunk, it will be wasteful endeavor to strike intellectual cord with such a jackass in this subject matter.

I stopped reading the above crap when the writer in his\her infinite wisdom declared Ojukwu jumpstarted Nigeria\Biafra war. If this writer is not a moronic numbskull, he\she must be a basement fool. Ojukwu was not involved with January 15, 1966 coup in Nigeria. Unlike Gowon, Ojukwu had not been directly or indirectly linked to July 29, 1966 coup in Nigeria. Even in loosely adherence to military parlance, unlike Gowon again Ojukwu did not usurp the position of C-in-C in Nigeria. Unlike Gowon, Ojukwu was not the COAS in Nigeria when defenseless civilians from southern Nigeria were massacred in northern region by the armed Mohammedans and Nigerian soldiers who hailed from northern region of Nigeria.

Anyway, it is not uncommon to find that author of above junk belongs to school of thought which believed that act of suing for independence is equivalent to declaration of war.
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Olaolufred(m): 4:04pm On Nov 05, 2012
Dede1:


When a so-called reviewer of books uses alias such as “mkioga” instead of real name which will expose the true identity of the person behind the moniker, I attribute nothing significant to such endeavor.

In the above nonsensical drivel, the writer come across as a fool who either believe in the word-dominated or phrase such as attempting to dominate. It is very clear the goofy writer needs to do mush work so as to be able to differentiate NCDC from NCNC. I really do not fathom what gave the lapper the impetus to suggest the NCNC was Igbo-dominated political party when all the ministerial appointments based on the electoral victories of the party were dominated by Yoruba.

Again, mkioga made a fool out of him\herself by alluding that British were competent administrators. Yet he\she audaciously suggested Igbo dominated everything in the era in discussion. If Ndigbo dominated everything in Nigeria by then, it must be that either the British were partial in their dealings with would-be Nigerians or the Ndigbo were more qualified than others to do the work the “competent British” wanted them to perform.

In another stanza, the author indicated that “NCDC” was almost dominated by Igbo but failed to indicate the major premise of branding a political party tribal is rooted in the formation of such organization and progenitors of such political party. Action Group rose from the gathering of Egbe Omo Oduduwa while NPC rose from the Quadriiyya\Tijaniyya Islamic sects and Pilgrim association situated in their respective regions. In the other hand, NCNC originated from Lagos in Yoruba land and most of principal stakeholders were Yoruba not Igbo. Yet, mkioga seemed foolish enough not to indicate the factors which compelled him\her brand a party as Igbo dominated or dominating in the silly review.

The joker in mkioga can not eat his\her cake and have it. In one instance, mkioga branded the British as competent administrators and in another instance the joker seemed to accuse Ndigbo about the facts raise by the publication named “The Nigerian Situation: Facts and Background”. I shall remind the mkioga that Nigeria civil service was setup by the same people he\she referred as competent and there is doubt in my mind that British adopted the most stringent meritocracy filing up positions in either Nigerian Railways or Nigerian Posts Authority.

I shall not get into splitting of hair with mkioga in the case of Nyerere of Tanzania and Biafran leaders. If Biafra had the same opportunity given to Tanzania to live as independent country, then the issue of emulation of Nyerere’s exemplary leadership should have come into this discussion. But given the fact that mikoga is a deluded drunk, it will be wasteful endeavor to strike intellectual cord with such a jackass in this subject matter.

I stopped reading the above crap when the writer in his\her infinite wisdom declared Ojukwu jumpstarted Nigeria\Biafra war. If this writer is not a moronic numbskull, he\she must be a basement fool. Ojukwu was not involved with January 15, 1966 coup in Nigeria. Unlike Gowon, Ojukwu had not been directly or indirectly indicated linked to July 29, 1966 coup in Nigeria. Even in loosely adherence to military parlance, unlike Gowon again Ojukwu did not usurp the position of C-in-C in Nigeria. Unlike Gowon, Ojukwu was not the COAS in Nigeria when defenseless civilians from southern Nigeria were massacred in northern region by the armed Mohammedans and Nigerian soldiers who hailed from northern region of Nigeria.

Anyway, it is not uncommon to find that author of above junk belongs to school of thought which believed that act of suing for independence is equivalent of declaration of war.

I lived in East Africa for few years (Kenya,Uganda and Rwanda).
His Full name is Mwongera Kioga.
Kenyan based in USA.
He understand the disadvantage of Tribal domination and repressions as experienced in his country.
That is why he could speak better on the Nigeria situation.
Not using Alias as you thought.
Maureen, Rudolf are other reviewers.
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Dede1(m): 4:11pm On Nov 05, 2012
Olaolufred:

I lived in East Africa for few years (Kenya,Uganda and Rwanda).
His Full name is Mwongera Kioga.
Kenyan based in USA.
He understand the disadvantage of Tribal domination and repressions as experienced in his country.
That is why he could speak better on the Nigeria situation.
Not using Alias as you thought.
Maureen, Rudolf are other reviewers.

Thanks for the input and clarification. If your input is remotely true, then the so-called mkioga must be an irredeemable and idiotic ill-formed interloper who dwelled on second-hand information without embarking on exploratory research.
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by CyberG: 8:36pm On Nov 05, 2012
Dede1:

Thanks for the input and clarification. If your input is remotely true, then the so-called mkioga must be an irredeemable and idiotic ill-formed interloper who dwelled on second-hand information without embarking on exploratory research.

dendeFOOOOL! You have not even read the book! Yeah right, you don't have to...YOU already know everything and you are foolishly right others are wisely wrong? ojuku and ibhoes were wrong and that was why they were CRUSHED into submission and had to go and obtain AMNESTY from the Nigerian conquerors in Lagos! In the next war, if you have not been kidnapped or eaten for meet, you will be crushed like a MAGGOT under the tires of a 911 truck.
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by ikeyman00(m): 8:38pm On Nov 05, 2012
^^^ this fool need to give up! u are getting so foolish by the day that by 2013 ur brain cell will conceal if u dnt watch it fool shocked

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Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by dayokanu(m): 8:49pm On Nov 05, 2012
Achebe is a senile old foool

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Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by ikeyman00(m): 10:09pm On Nov 05, 2012
^^^like ur pappa
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Standing5(m): 5:32pm On Nov 07, 2012
M-16:

GO NYASH YOUR MAMA ANIMAL THEY SHOWN WHOLE BUNCH OF YORUBA ON T.V HERE ON CENTRAL FLORIDA T.V WITH VARIOUS TYPE OF CRIMES INCLUDING I.D THEFT CREDIT CARD FRAUD ,DRUG TRAFFICKING ,ETC ETC , IF DON'T SHUT YOUR STINKING AMALA MOUTH I WILL POST THE VIDEO'S ,I KNOW THIS PARTICULAR YORUBA WILL BE MAD ,THERE ARE WHOLE BUNCH OF YORUBA SCAM ARTIST IN ATLANTA ,MIAMI , OLUWOLE FRAUD ARTIST NOW LIVING IN FLORIDA .
Did i lie in my post? Yoruba is not the opposite of Igbo FYI. Stick to the topic like a man.
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Blezamby: 2:40pm On Jul 28, 2017
The title of the book clearly stated a part which said'A PERSONAL HISTORY OF BIAFRA' and the introduction section mentioned '..... the source of my own perspective'.
Come to think of it, He is the only writer who had published a book depicting what the war was like from an Igbo mans perspective. No other tribe tried writing to that effect from their own perspective. The notes at the end of the book also provides sources for further reading in case you think he's lying. I'm sure this writer didn't bother checking before concluding.
The truth of their generation in Igbo land is clearly stated in the book, he never tried to explain the way the Yorubas lived their lives cos he wasn't raised there.
If you have a problem with what he wrote, go and provide your own vivid evidence from a valid and reliable source and present them. Not saying just because of resentment that what he wrote is a lie
Re: Achebe Got It All Wrong On Tribalism (in Nigeria And Africa). A Must Read!!!!!! by Uchek(m): 10:36pm On Jul 22, 2021
Totally agree with you!

PROUDIGBO:
All these awo-apologists and revisionists never fail to amaze me; Igbos are this and that yet fought to bring them back into this cursed entity?.....you fought to share a country with the very people you despise?

We now have a 'nation' that certain bastards fought for that us the laughing stock of the entire civilised world; a nation that celebrates corruption, criminality, nepotism, laziness, religious fundamentalism, and all sorts of vices to numerous to mention.....a 'nation' from hell, yet some deluded fools still want us to remain as one.

To be one country no be by force!

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