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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by BetaThings: 2:39pm On Nov 19, 2012
Gombs:

And the two folkss who dint want their names published r El-Rufai n Tunde Bakare...I cud mk up these stories Йą...besides if its true,shey dey said they are ashamed of working for GEJ,why don't they resign?....cowards who enjoys their pay check,yet flaunt sheer hypocrisy....SMH
Even let it be made up by Osama bin Laden, it does not matter. What are the facts? Presidential aides told the nation something; the president comes to tell us something else
How often are these chats? So whenever Abati talks now, we will not believe until there is a chat?
Does not matter where Patience is
But on Manitoba (international investment and confidence) and Boko Haram (key security nightmare), we are just being played?
If he needed to clarify those two key issues for us, he should have done so promptly

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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by solomonkane(m): 2:39pm On Nov 19, 2012
As much as GEJ messes up, its difficult to blame him on this one. Did they consult with the president before releasing these statements or did they think of themselves as omniscient and went ahead to release these press statements without consulting with their principal? These are questions that need answers;

SCENARIO A:

If GEJ was aware and had approved of these statements, then GEJ is a liar who has just thrown Abati and Osinlu to the wolves to deflect attention from himself and can't be trusted so they should resign.

SCENARIO B:

If Abati & Osinlu believing themselves to be consummate all knowing professionals decided to belittle their boss by making statements on his behalf without his knowledge, then GEJ is an innocent bystander and both Abati & Osinlu over reached & should be fired.
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by sleekshedy(m): 2:40pm On Nov 19, 2012
He threw his men under the bus. It's called flip flop, they remind me of Republican Mitt the twit(Romney) "I can't remember what I said, but I stand by whatever it is". Lol

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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by BetaThings: 2:41pm On Nov 19, 2012
Abati, Abati, how now?
"Can we have the president's or the first lady's no to confirm what you have just said
We really don't want to mislead Nigerians with this your statement"

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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by Maxymilliano(m): 2:43pm On Nov 19, 2012
Another concocted tales by moonlight by some jobless media men just to find fault where there is none in the president sincerity. This was the same media that told us fuel price increase is imminent in January, this was the same media that told us Jonathan is already having dialogue with Boko Haram, this was the same media that told us that Manitoba contract was canceled out-rightly, and one common trend in all this outlandish falsehood is that it always emanates from a presidential source who prefers anonymity. Why not mention the names to add some credibility to the news?

Anyway, people can believe what they choose to believe.
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by ochukoccna: 2:44pm On Nov 19, 2012
The same Ebele who pulled the rug from our feet with subsidy removal
The same goon who flawlessly lied on TV that PDP did not zone the presidency &political offices yet was up in arms with the HOR for electing Tambuwal over Adeola Akande as Speaker shocked shocked shocked
The simpleton who thinks been president is eating fish pepper soup, drinking kai kai shots, wearing fedoras and photo shoot sessions grin grin
Even satan shivers when ebele speaks cool cool

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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by takedat(m): 2:45pm On Nov 19, 2012
solomonkane: As much as GEJ messes up, its difficult to blame him on this one. Did they consult with the president before releasing these statements or did they think of themselves as omniscient and went ahead to release these press statements without consulting with their principal? These are questions that need answers;

SCENARIO A:

If GEJ was aware and had approved of these statements, then GEJ is a liar who has just thrown Abati and Osinlu to the wolves to deflect attention from himself and can't be trusted so they should resign.

SCENARIO B:

If Abati & Osinlu believing themselves to be consummate all knowing professionals decided to belittle their boss by making statements on his behalf without his knowledge, then GEJ is an innocent bystander and both Abati & Osinlu over reached & should be fired.
Is it possible for Abati, Okupe and Osinlu to make pronouncement without consulting their principal? Even if the aides made those statements without his knowledge, why did he not denounce or dispel the statements immediately? Abeg their Oga na liar!

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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by OkwaIfugo(m): 2:47pm On Nov 19, 2012
leave GEj alone ooo before him go die before him time.
haba

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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by ochukoccna: 2:52pm On Nov 19, 2012
OkwaIfugo: leave GEj alone ooo before him go die before him time.
haba
Na now hin just know say Nigerians are negative people kiss kiss
When hin don use 1billion wack food finish grin grin
No be hin form Voltron contest as president? grin grin
Dem beg am? tongue tongue
No bin hin wan be best Nigerian president ever? shocked shocked
Shioor cheesy cheesy

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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by PEREP: 2:53pm On Nov 19, 2012
dounleedee: The position of the number one citizen in any country is delicate and should be unambiguous.
Whilst it is human to err, a president has to exercise caution and discretion in words and actions.
Some of you peeps can say, so what’s the big deal after all he corrected the misinformation.
The “Benghazigate” in America currently is not so much that American diplomats were killed in Libya, but the misinformation that came from the presidency’s source afterwards.
The question you guys should ask yourselves is “what about the damage already done?”
Can the president as the commander in chief of our armed forces ordered the army into war and then retracts to say he was misquoted? How many of you will say it doesn’t matter?
Our leaders are simply reckless, irresponsible and unaccountable to the people, period.
The contract is cancelled as at that moment to put things straight and this the President has made clear. It is different from outright revocation.

The kind of illness or ailment been blown out of proportion is different from having a 'rest' which is far from the insinuations that the first lady was admitted or going through surgery.

On Boko Haram, there are efforts to discuss and that has not translated to dialogue. If the leaders BH men thought will broker the deal for them back down, can we say there is a dialogue?

The President might not be the best in terms of public speaking but he has a clear plan to transform this country and if he is steady, it is better than all the charade of newspaper prosecutions we were used to.

All in all, I wish him the best in Power sector reforms, Port Operations reforms, Agricultural sector reforms, Aviation reforms, oil sector reforms, political space reforms and Educational reforms among other interventions been pursued by this govt.
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by solomonkane(m): 2:54pm On Nov 19, 2012
Maxymilliano: Another concocted tales by moonlight by some jobless media men just to find fault where there is none in the president sincerity. This was the same media that told us fuel price increase is imminent in January, this was the same media that told us Jonathan is already having dialogue with Boko Haram, this was the same media that told us that Manitoba contract was canceled out-rightly, and one common trend in all this outlandish falsehood is that it always emanates from a presidential source who prefers anonymity. Why not mention the names to add some credibility to the news?

Anyway, people can believe what they choose to believe.

The media didn't lie about the alleged Boko Haram dialogue, the Manitoba contract and they also didn't lie about Patience's health. Government aides gave press statements unless you want to say those ones too were manufactured?

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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by highlandre(m): 2:55pm On Nov 19, 2012
If Abati has any form of integrity left in him, then he should resign. I for one know Jonathan frequently commits communication somersault embarassed
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by FindOut(m): 2:56pm On Nov 19, 2012
take dat: Is it possible for Abati, Okupe and Osinlu to make pronouncement without consulting their principal? Even if the aides made those statements without his knowledge, why did he not denounce or dispel the statements immediately? Abeg their Oga na liar!


u dey mind am?? The President of the country, an innocent bystander? Can u imagine? Even me wey no be councillor, if someone comes out to speak falsehood on my behalf, i'll come out to deny it & if possible, sanction the person. So, failure of Mr President to do this doesnt make him an innocent bystander, but rather, an accomplice/action initiator (as is likely the case here) or a COWARD who can't call his subordinates to order.

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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by solomonkane(m): 3:08pm On Nov 19, 2012
take dat: Is it possible for Abati, Okupe and Osinlu to make pronouncement without consulting their principal? Even if the aides made those statements without his knowledge, why did he not denounce or dispel the statements immediately? Abeg their Oga na liar!

Bros don't get me wrong, I am not supporting GEJ but these incidents indicate that there is a disconnect somewhere in the lines of communication in Aso Rock & this isn't good because if we can't trust the aides of GEJ to tell us what is going on accurately, heresay and half truths will be the order of the day which is an invitation to anarchy. I need clarification before jumping to conclusions.
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by toluxa1(m): 3:08pm On Nov 19, 2012
Find Out!:


How do you reason??

Someone ordered lies to be told to the world, later he comes out to say the 'truth'. What if some of those 'truths' are actually lies which he comes out to deny tomorrow?

It all points to one thing. Insincerity. An dishonest and inconsistent man cannot be expected to turn the lives of Nigerians around for the better. Thats just the truth.

If Abati has any vestige of pride left, the honourable thing for him to do is to resign. If the House & Senate are serious, they ought to summon Mr. President for clarifications. Oh, i forgot, he still hasnt answered their summons to brief them on the insecurity issues.

This President is a humble but insincere & obviously inept leader. Let's face it please. However, we have no choice but to wish him the best.
helixmanager:


Common!you are the only Nigerian that behaves silly.

Why did he approve lies in the first place?Its a problem because we are concerned about his leadership not to lead us astray.

I don't blame you cause well, to be decent, I'll say you're acting just like "normal citizens act". They expect a God-President.

Even in the United states stuff like this happened few weeks ago where majority (especially haters) blamed the president for lying to them about the Benghazi incident. Alot of reasoning is involved when dishing out information to the public and its not always as simple as we think.
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by thelastPope(m): 3:14pm On Nov 19, 2012
Is this the kind of story we now see on NL? Two unknown presidency officials? My little kid can do better than this.

Shame!
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by Gombs(m): 3:17pm On Nov 19, 2012
BetaThings:
Even let it be made up by Osama bin Laden, it does not matter. What are the facts? Presidential aides told the nation something; the president comes to tell us something else
How often are these chats? So whenever Abati talks now, we will not believe until there is a chat?
Does not matter where Patience is
But on Manitoba (international investment and confidence) and Boko Haram (key security nightmare), we are just being played?
If he needed to clarify those two key issues for us, he should have done so promptly

Ǖя̩̥̊ point is terrifying...and permit to say dumb...now,aw many times haf such corrections hapnd?

On boko haram we r bin played?...u for real?

U seee bro,u jst hating,to be frank...GEJ ώɑ̣̣̝̇̇ƨ̣̣̣̇̇̇ perfect yday.dnt knw abt u,but twas a chat not a debate not press conference...hp u get d difference
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by Demdem(m): 3:18pm On Nov 19, 2012
If there is any honour still in ABATI, i expect him to resign.
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by Mustay(m): 3:27pm On Nov 19, 2012
gregg2: Nobody told Premiumtimes anything.
This story is one of those concocted lies to diminish
the president's sincere chat with Nigerians.


PT may have made up the headline or the "sources" but it still doesn't dispute the fact that the president has given us contradictory statements - his wife's sickness for example.

Are people trying to 'mumufy' us again as to the representation of the statements of spokesmen Dis naija na wa o, nothing wey we no go see

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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by iykak47: 3:30pm On Nov 19, 2012
dripstoil: Checkout Obama in playful mood with his people... can our president do that.

One thing I don't like about Goodluck Jonathan is his public image

http://www.ovation.com.ng/2012/11/lol-mckayla-maroney-doing-not-impressed.html
So this what you expect the Nigerian president to learn from Obama. Jonathan is Jonathan he can not be Obama, vice versa.
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by 1025: 3:32pm On Nov 19, 2012
toluxa1:

Abi oooo. Nigerians sometimes behave silly. He has come out to tell the whole truth now, and its still a problem to some. Haters

you are that nigerian that is silly. is there any country of this world where everybody support the ruler/leader? is opposition not part of democracy? is obama not facing opposition in america? does that make americans silly?
it is a very bad thing that a country has a president they can't trust his words. a couple of days ago, subsidy must go and yesterday, subsidy must stay in 2013? why will anyone waste time listening to unreliable bunch? if what abati told us was a lie, why is he still there after lying against our honourable president? presidents are men and women who think before they speak and not speak before thinking.selecting mediocre for public offices is a failure on the side of the president. it is a show of shame and this is not the first or second time when abati come to tell us that joe said we shld run only for joe to come and say, nobody shld listen to abati. what is the difference between this one and what ribadu and his committee of bad friends did on the day they were to hand over their report to joe in front of the pressmen. it is bad for presidents to talk like men in the beer parlour or palm wine joints.

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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by greatgod2012(f): 3:38pm On Nov 19, 2012
D fact is dt Mr President is an hypocrite, and i have discovered dt somebodt who is not hypocritical can not rule this country successfully.
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by blacksta(m): 3:41pm On Nov 19, 2012
Presidential bashing - Nigerians sha
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by Telez(m): 3:43pm On Nov 19, 2012
ha ha
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by ayobase(m): 3:51pm On Nov 19, 2012
Its simple and simple.
.
Let them resign if not pleased!
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by pheesayor(m): 3:55pm On Nov 19, 2012
ziccoit: He was acclaimed to be a lot of things b4 the last election that saw him as the president.

Now, he has shown us how artificial dynamism could be used to deceive the people. Jonathan is what you think of him now. In some weeks to come, you will see another 'good' GeJ to deceive you once again(2015).
well said
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by Nobody: 4:12pm On Nov 19, 2012
D worst thing dat cn happen 2 any1 is 2 belong 2 d class of d 'masses' in a 3rd world con3. U wl be bandied abt lyk a pawn in a chess game.
Presidency staff ko, opposition staff ni

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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by dollyptosh(m): 4:14pm On Nov 19, 2012
isuomo: The crying shame is that the honourable thing to do by any self-respecting human being is not in the Nigerian DNA. So i don't expect Abati who is now more of an Apati (ignored)in the statehouse affairs to do that anytime soon.
black men dont resign. Fmr. minister of state for finance Mr remi babalola resigned sha.
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by Dee60: 4:26pm On Nov 19, 2012
dollyptosh: black men dont resign. Fmr. minister of state for finance Mr remi babalola resigned sha.

And he was sincere to tell Nigerians the truth that they all have been evading: Nigeria is broke! Remi and not anyone else was also the first to point out the subsidy gaps and how a mighty hole was being created at NNPC. he must have been forced to resign because he exposed the FG. Abati may follow very soon if fails to read between the lines.

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Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by mmmustapha(m): 4:33pm On Nov 19, 2012
Hmm even d unborn child know that jonah boy is a liar, he will continue to be given us fresh air
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by mmmustapha(m): 4:33pm On Nov 19, 2012
Hmm even d unborn child know that jonah boy is a liar, he will continue to be given us fresh air. Few fools deceiving people (PDP)
Re: Presidency Officials Accuse Jonathan Of Lying To Nigerians by obongtunji: 4:38pm On Nov 19, 2012
ocelot2006: So, they disagree with the president. Uhmm..one question though-how come they've not resigned in protest?
. Help me ask them my brother. That is Nigerians for you. A minister in Canada spent $5 above her budget and she tender her resignation, but reverse is the case here.......lop

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