odum desmond: My problem with ur likes is that u cry more than the bereaved, has any person who gives tithes and offering ever come to u to complain about ur perceived exploitation? Surely those of us who "s*tupidly" give tithes and offering and also "st*upidly" get blessed in giving don't complain at all, infact I ve emptied my pocket several times for God and ve never failed to get double fold blessings in return, there is a mystery many pple re not aware of, it works for us and we can't just stop giving because ur type re crying out. My papa Bishop Oyedepo started out morethan 30 years back from a thatched roof church in a remote village, he was a graduate with prospects in a Nigeria of that time when employers would come to plead with u on the day of ur graduation to work for them, with huge tempting offers of salary, accommodation and even car; but he chose God, he chose to become a preacher than work , he was rejected by his dominantly Muslim family, he was mocked at, his parents felt they had lost a son, but he held on to what he believed in. Today, after all his suffering, he has in turn become raised by God and people are talkin, where were u wen he was goin thru all these for God, life teaches that there is no limit to which a man can get if he remains dedicated, committed and upright, he chose these and he is not only blessed but has become a blessing to thousands employed in several businesses he has. He doesn't ve to earn from church offering or tithe, he also has interest in businesses and has access to the best brains to work for him. Let me even ask, a church that has more than a million memeber world wide, shud owing private jet be too much? Have u read about Kenneth Copeland, his church has as at 3 years back given away about 25 jets as gifts to other ministries world wide. Is jet too big for God's work? Would we rather have a man who would teach decency, love, morals, fear of God, etc to fly on private jet just to meet preaching schedules world wide than give same private jet a Hollywood porn star/ artiste who only needs it to fly all over the world to promote nudity and immorality? The place we call Cannan land at Ota before Oyedepo came was a thick forest, the church has turned it to the best city in Nigeria, nobody is commending him and the church, Adeboye lived at Redeemed camp ground alone when it was a jungle with only him and his wife, surrounded by bush, no electricity, pipe borne water etc their kids refused living, with them there, today it has become a city like none in Nigeria in terms of organisation and facilities, a fit no Govt with billions of oil money in Nigeria has accomplished , yet for them to fly on small 10 passenger private jet is causing uproar in Nigeria. God is watching us all. I believe that a man who has paid so much that many other re unwilling to pay should enjoy what others are not entitled to, all pastors can't be on same level.

First of all I couldn't find any paragraph in this Essay of yours.

I said it before and I'll say it again, Religious leaders in [b][/b]NIGERIA have taken Christianity to a different level, Nigerians are desperate for life and they have put all their hopes in the hands [b][/b]Religious Investment Pastors that Gamble away the Congregation Contribution[b][/b]just like CITY ROGUES.

Some of us leaves in the western world and we've never seen anything like Nigerian Pastors.....Wow, this guys are REAL SCHEMERS,total deviation from Holiness and straight into Materialistic world.

There's No Arch bishop in UK that can afford Private jet, they'll give Total account before the MP's.

It has become a norm in the Nigerian society to accept this Ridiculous behaviour and it's an Absurd comment to say Private Jet are used in order to meet foreign preaching, you might as well say Pastors are Travelling to heaven in order to meet God ontime, what an ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS.

You seriously need to wake up and look at things in a different perspective i.e [Real world] except you are part of them.

odum desmond: My problem with ur likes is that u cry more than the bereaved, has any person who gives tithes and offering ever come to u to complain about ur perceived exploitation? Surely those of us who "s*tupidly" give tithes and offering and also "st*upidly" get blessed in giving don't complain at all, infact I ve emptied my pocket several times for God and ve never failed to get double fold blessings in return, there is a mystery many pple re not aware of, it works for us and we can't just stop giving because ur type re crying out. My papa Bishop Oyedepo started out morethan 30 years back from a thatched roof church in a remote village, he was a graduate with prospects in a Nigeria of that time when employers would come to plead with u on the day of ur graduation to work for them, with huge tempting offers of salary, accommodation and even car; but he chose God, he chose to become a preacher than work , he was rejected by his dominantly Muslim family, he was mocked at, his parents felt they had lost a son, but he held on to what he believed in. Today, after all his suffering, he has in turn become raised by God and people are talkin, where were u wen he was goin thru all these for God, life teaches that there is no limit to which a man can get if he remains dedicated, committed and upright, he chose these and he is not only blessed but has become a blessing to thousands employed in several businesses he has. He doesn't ve to earn from church offering or tithe, he also has interest in businesses and has access to the best brains to work for him. Let me even ask, a church that has more than a million memeber world wide, shud owing private jet be too much? Have u read about Kenneth Copeland, his church has as at 3 years back given away about 25 jets as gifts to other ministries world wide. Is jet too big for God's work? Would we rather have a man who would teach decency, love, morals, fear of God, etc to fly on private jet just to meet preaching schedules world wide than give same private jet a Hollywood porn star/ artiste who only needs it to fly all over the world to promote nudity and immorality? The place we call Cannan land at Ota before Oyedepo came was a thick forest, the church has turned it to the best city in Nigeria, nobody is commending him and the church, Adeboye lived at Redeemed camp ground alone when it was a jungle with only him and his wife, surrounded by bush, no electricity, pipe borne water etc their kids refused living, with them there, today it has become a city like none in Nigeria in terms of organisation and facilities, a fit no Govt with billions of oil money in Nigeria has accomplished , yet for them to fly on small 10 passenger private jet is causing uproar in Nigeria. God is watching us all. I believe that a man who has paid so much that many other re unwilling to pay should enjoy what others are not entitled to, all pastors can't be on same level.

My bro.flesh&blood did not reveal this to you,but wisdom from above.My very candid advice to haters is that they should plsssss drop their job,turn from atheist,muslim,Buddha etc,go &form church!!if you think its easy,abi you no wan rich?!Bishop Oyedepo's life has become a project,a case study&a WONDER and so shall it be.It pays to obey God!

daroz: I cast my vote for Bishop Matthew Hassan Kukah and Pastor Tunde Bakare in their demosthenic vitriol against spiritual megalomaniacs whose modus vivendi has become increasingly byzantine and repulsively narcissistic.We must all begin to deprecate this razzmatazz and Nestorian braggadocio in the "HOUSE OF GOD",because when there is no difference between the values of a Pastor and a typical Nigerian Politician,then it's truly a bolekaja ambience.....


https://www.facebook.com/patrick.obahiagbon.3

To begin with, I wish to state that th word holekaja
above is not an English word. It is a Yoruba word meaning come let's fight it out. The word was introduced into Nigeria political lingua about eight yeats ago.

My view on pastors owning pvt jjet is that if the church deem it expedient that the officials and members need to travel by jet, let the church can purchase if they have the means. But it should in the name of the church, labelled with the church name, and other officials have access to it. The situation in which it is the private property of the leader of the church is a show of greed, material lustfulness and quite unchristianly. The church members have demonstrated syncophancy if they approve this. Obahiagbon saying there is no difference between that pastor and a typical Nigerian politician captures it aptly.

odum desmond: Jesus never boarded a passenger Canoe/ ship. Several biblical account shows that he boarded a chartered ship while travelling with his disciples. Contradict me!

You must really be a slowpoke o. Dis your pastor gets a very serious hold on your life. *smh*. Try work hard and leave offering and help your family member and those very close to you, you will see how much God's favour you will get.

pecopeco: Why always jet. Propagate d gospel to d world

is it not you people that are propagating d jet? The pastors are propagating d gospel, ofcourse with d help of d jet, go ye into d world remember? And you might need a private jet to do just that

acidosis™:
This man need some glue on his mouth.. empty talk!

ur thought.

timmy7:
is it not you people that are propagating d jet? The pastors are propagating d gospel, ofcourse with d help of d jet, go ye into d world remember? And you might need a private jet to do just that

smbh!

You see, God's money is different from money made through business ventures.

Do you know that it maybe okay for a businessmen to buy a private jet for his travels, but it may not be okay for an organisation like an NGO or a Foundation for Cancer, Paralysis etc., who exists based on philanthropic contributions from the public to do the same.

It's just not. They will come under condemnation.

People give their tithes and offerings to God. If the pastors ask for the money in their own names, you can be sure no one will give them a dime.

So the money is not their own. They are just supposed to be in care of it. Of course, a labourer is worthy of his wages: no one is saying this men that have laboured for God should not live well. Indeed many of them are already living better than 90 percent of us.

But using God's money, up to the tune of 40 to 50 million dollars to acquire private jets just blows away the mind. I mean God, that amount of money just because u wanna move around. I hear it cost about 300,000 dollars a year of cost to maintain a private. These includes parking space fees, pilot, repairs etc. Think of what $300k can achieve in the life of longstanding loyal members of the church who are faithful but poor and are always praying for breakthroughs.

And seriously, even though Winners Ministry is very big, I see no justification for owning a total of four jets.

Can we as Christians, from what we know of God's mind in the Bible, claim that Jesus is very happy about how HIS money is being spent. Yes, it is HIS money. If this big Pastors preach in their own names, no one will even listen to them twice. Yes as servants of God, they are supposed to eat of of it because the Bible says in the Old Testament " he who ministers at the altar should eat at the altar". But after eating well and having enough, they are supposed to carry out the MIND OF JESUS with rest of Jesus' money.

But you see them building (personal) houses after house,buying many cars after so many cars, and even now jets after jets.

The worst of all is that, top men of the Clergy don't even speak out against the evil that the leaders of the country are committing against the people. Go and check out through the Bible, in Israel, it is the duty of the Prophets that Lord has in His wisdom raised and made prominent above other Prophets to speak against evil in the land. God has made them prominent and respected so that their voice will be heard. With the exceptions of a few like Tunde Bakare, the so called Christian leaders have failed woefully in this aspect. They never speak against evil. In fact they fraternize and socialise with these people. This is why so many politicians and wife of politicians always feel at home frequenting Redeem Camp. Have you heard of any governor paying Bakare a visit? His the man that evil? No, it is because he is doing what the Bible expects people in his position to do: speak against evil. Yes, I know he has excesses but at least he is standing up to be counted in this regard and God will recognise him for it.

Justice and equity in the land are issues that God takes very seriously. In fact over-seriously. Just go and read the Book of Kings and Chronicles in the Bible. God hates in when the people suffer because of injustice, insensitivity and greed of the leaders and he is always sending Prophets to go and prophesy His anger and eventual wrath upon them unless they change. Many of these Prophets were jailed and killed. Today, the leaders of Christianity in Nigerian faces no such grave dangers if they speak out against evil. Or is that their mouth is too heavy to speak? It can only be because they want to remain in the good books of the people in power.

Someone tell me, what other job can be more important than the leadership of CAN speaking against the evil of corruption of our leaders which sucking the lives of the populace?

Then they say Ayo Orishajafor members gave him gift of over 40 million dollars. Who are those individuals that can afford such an expensive gift. In a sane country, this is enough reason for an investigation.

odum desmond: My problem with ur like is that u cry more than the bereaved; has any person who gives tithes and offering ever come to u to complain about ur perceived exploitation? Surely those of us who "s*tupidly" give tithes and offering and also "st*upidly" get blessed in giving don't complain at all, infact I ve emptied my pocket several times for God and ve never failed to get double fold blessings in return, there is a mystery many pple re not aware of, it works for us and we can't just stop giving because ur type re crying out. My papa Bishop Oyedepo started out more than 30 years back from a thatched roof church in a remote village; he was a graduate with prospects in a Nigeria of that time when employers would come to plead with u on the day of ur graduation to work for them with huge and tempting offers of salary, accommodation and even car; but he chose God, he chose to become a preacher than work . He was rejected by his dominantly Muslim family, he was mocked at, his parents felt they had lost a son, but he held on to what he believed in. Today, after all his suffering, he has in turn become blessed by God and people are talkin; where were u wen he was goin thru all these for God? Life teaches us that there is no limit to the wat a man can attain in life if he remains dedicated, committed and upright; Oyedepo chose these and he is not only blessed today but has become a blessing to thousands employed in several businesses he has. He doesn't ve to earn from church offering or tithe, he also has interest in businesses and has access to the best brains to work for him. Let me even ask, a church that has more than a million memeber world wide, shud owing private jet be too much? Have u read about Kenneth Copeland, his church has as at 3 years back given away about 25 jets as gifts to other ministries world wide. Is jet too big for God's work? Would we rather have a man who would teach decency, love, morals, fear of God, etc to fly on private jet just to meet preaching schedules world wide than give same private jet a Hollywood porn star/ artiste who only needs it to fly all over the world to promote nudity and immorality? The place we call Cannan land at Ota before Oyedepo came was a thick forest, the church has turned it to the best city in Nigeria, nobody is commending him and the church. Pastor Adeboye lived at Redeemed camp ground alone when it was a jungle with only him and his wife, surrounded by bush, no electricity, pipe borne water etc their kids refused living with them there, today it has become a city like none in Nigeria in terms of organisation and facilities, a fit no Govt with billions of oil money in Nigeria has accomplished , yet for them to fly on small 10 passenger private jet is causing uproar in Nigeria. God is watching us all. I believe that a man who has paid so much that many other re unwilling to pay should enjoy what others are not entitled to, all pastors can't be on same level.

Jesus rode a camel even as there were horses then.

Jesus was a bundle of humility and humbleness which incidentally
is what CAC Sunday school lesson have been teaching these past weeks.

These people are very much unlike Jesus.

I say Tax them and heavily too.

Couldn't he say it in a simpler way? Fog in print.

it is better you use this offerings and tithes to acquire jets than to fund christian militant to bomb mosque. muslims dont have any right to condemn men of God.only christains have right atleast ignorant christains. el rufai and sanusi lamido are anti-christains. any pastor who condemn this pastors are just broke ass pastors,because if they have the money they will follow suit. lets stop deceiving ourselves we are nigerians and the blood flows in our veins. even imam,alphas,sheikh will buy if they have the money.

fuke:

Jesus rode a camel even as there were horses then.

Jesus was a bundle of humility and humbleness which incidentally
is what CAC Sunday school lesson have been teaching these past weeks.

These people are very much unlike Jesus.

I say Tax them and heavily too.

so ur point is that those pastors with churches having planes should have opted for smthn like a Toyota Land Cruiser abi? or smthn even far from a plane...

lol I laugh, it would really amaze many of us that these planes and schools were not bought or built by the pastors of these churches but most likely by many who are really wealthy amongst the congregation who also has nothing to do with politics

My broda, may God deliver us from poverty, come to think of it, how much is a private Jet, (2005-2011) pls check it out and compare with some expensive cars some people ride in lagos..

take it or leave it, some people are ready and able to afford private jets for their church pastors on a yearly basis.. if people like make dem talk...

when pepper don rest, I mean when money dey... guy 4get,..

osaxx: it is better you use this offerings and tithes to acquire jets than to fund christian militant to bomb mosque. muslims dont have any right to condemn men of God.only christains have right atleast ignorant christains. el rufai and sanusi lamido are anti-christains. any pastor who condemn this pastors are just broke ass pastors,because if they have the money they will follow suit. lets stop deceiving ourselves we are nigerians and the blood flows in our veins. even imam,alphas,sheikh will buy if they have the money.

Your words, they are so full of great wisdom; really inspiring! You know, they should send to secondary to start imparting the upcoming youth with your GREAT WISDOM.

Such nonsense talk. Are the likes of Reverend Kukah muslins or are they flat broke?

So anyone the points the faults of big pentecostal clergy men, automatically, they are either flat broke or ignorant,

suffice it to say also that even here on nairaland, Seun Osewa (owner of Nairaland) has indirectly propagated some people to a realm where they never expected, and if some of these guys now decides to show gratitude to Seun by building a house or buying a car for him, people would still talk.... Go to Auto section or property section... and read how many people have benefited from nairaland...

Some people cannot stand and see the people they see and believe as God's representatives in their lives queue up at the airport to buy ticket, or being harrased by airport officials....

guys have a deep thought about this before commenting...... I hear lots of people saying these pastors would fall, I would quickly add "ONLY THE FAKE ONES"

Its a lie; they don't have to que up for tickets; they several assistants at their beck and call to do such things. All they have to do is drive to the airport at the time of their flight. And first call ticket passengers are usually not that plenty. They get checked pretty quickly. And as known as respected personality, they can easily get preferential treatment.

how will you feel if you find urself in hell just because you judged these men of God...?

Many of u are talking out of sheer ignorance of what your position is in Jesus Christ. Didn't Christ say that he died poor so that we might be rich? Didn't God so bless Solomon after he gave a record breaking sacrifice to God that til date Warren Bufffet and Bill Gate put together are not as wealthy as Solomon, he had mansions paved with Gold and diamond, his house of treasure richer than the reserve bank of US. Isn't it same God that you claim you serve that blessed him? Many of you see being a strong born again Christain as a life sentence of poverty. Our model in faith is Jesus, he died to take away poverty from those who geniunely serve him. I understand where this principle of associating Christainty with poverty is coming, from earlier pastors who thought their memebers that heavenly race was all they were created for, that satan should take over the whole world while they surround all toJesus. That is a backward approach to life in christ. A true christain must first conquer here on earth before going to heaven. Why do u want a pastor to look as poor broke and miserable like a juju priest? What then is the difference between the God he claims he is serving and juju? God cannot be equated with any lesser god and thus his priest should look like the priest of the Most High, radiating the glory and riches of God himself. If you are in a church where the pastor is broke, run for ur life!!! Poverty is infectious, a man who claims to see and speak with God who cannot cure himself of poverty will soon pollute ur destiny. Holiness is not enough, in holiness it is important you have something to show off to the world that you re serving a living God who blesses. How can you convince a juju worshipper to drop his rag tagged worship of a god synonymus with poverty if u don't look better? The bible conatins more promises of God's blessings than even judgement / punishment, meaning that God is very interested in the well being of his children!!! If he blesses a pastor with jet, fret not, how it works is like this: a pastor that is anointed by God as priest brings God's favour upon his flock (member) who in turn appreciate God's favour on their live by also returning part of their blessings to the pastor. Therefore unless you have been blessed by God you cannot give offering and tithe, its like a cycle

lanre_front: Its a lie; they don't have to que up for tickets; they several assistants at their beck and call to do such things. All they have to do is drive to the airport at the time of their flight. And first call ticket passengers are usually not that plenty. They get checked pretty quickly. And as known as respected personality, they can easily get preferential treatment.

well if u have time to come nairaland at this time like me, then we are both still not rich, u wey dey talk if u get cash 2day. u would want to sleep two houses in a night... if for any reason u have made progress in the last 5yrs of ur life, can u compare now and then? has anything changed?

also if u knw that when u spend one naira for God's work and u almost immediately get ten naira back... what would you do? guy go and ask those giving to God's work and weigh their progress.... some dey spend for Juju man place, some the other side, thats it o...

^ @ odus Desmond

Abeg please stop putting words in people's mouth. Where in the whole thread did anyone say Pastors have to be looking poor and broke? You can hardly find anyone that feels that way in this modern era of pentecostal Christianity.

How does deciding not to spend an amount of between 40 to 50 million dollars on a jet plane, translates into being poor and broke and not living a good comfortable classy life.

Your line in not a unique one. Pentecostal Church leaders and their staunch supporters have been giving that line over a decade now. Jesus died so that we may be rich. A christian has no business being poor.... So many sermons on this; so much that they must run into thousands by now.

Who has said Christians must be poor or that church leaders should not enjoy the fruits of their labour? That's not what we are talking about.

We are talking about church leaders leading a flamboyant lifestyle of extreme extravagance and obscene opulence that even most international business men even in Europe and US don't indulge in. When the Bible says " he was poor so that we may be rich", the Bible is definitely not talking about this type of obscenity and lack of indiscretion.

Then there is what thing you need to get into your head and understand. You mentioned Solomon being so rich that his wealth was more that of Bill Gate and other like him combined together.

Solomon was a King not a Priest. A Priests are equivalent of today's Pastors because the whole of Israel bring to them ten percent of their income, grains and sheep to them. So if the Chief Priests now start living extravagantly and starts throwing parties for their children like Job, you think God will be happy.

Such a thing indeed happened in the Bible. The children of Eli the High Priest where living extra large on tithe and offering Israelites brought to God. The Bible says when Israelites brought their burn offering to the Lord, they will choose the best parts before allowing the people to carry own to offer the burn sacrifice. You can be sure they will be having feasts, the type you find in palaces in their homes everyday.

The Bible says the Lord killed both of Eli's children in one day. Eli died and God replaced him with Samuel.

Now Samuel was a Prophet and also became the leader of the Israelites (today's Christians). Israel had no king then. According to the Bible, Samuel was the leader of Israel from his youth till he became an oldman. Read the story in I samuel 12. Israel asked for a king. Samuel anointed Saul. Before he handed over to Saul he assembled the whole of Israel and and challenged them whether he has used his position to enrich himself in anyway. The whole of Israel shouted No and to confirm the authenticity of Samuel, God sent down and an heavy rain during the dry season.

Samuel was in a position to living a life extreme luxury in a palatial home fit only for kings. But that was not the case.

The point is this: all those tithes and offerings does not belong to the church leaders. It belongs to God. It's God's property and God is serious about. In the Book of Malachai, God said Isaelites who refused to give him their tithes are robbing him of His property. Imagine that! He called them thieves! So after they now bring the tithes, will he not be concerned about what is being done with the money.

The central message of Christianity is good works. Bettering the lives of the people is the business of Jesus.

A Priest on the altar in care of God's tithes will now pack about 50 million dollars to buy jet so he can transport himself; some even to go to an extent of acquiring four.

Forget whether T.B Joshua is true or false man of God. If he is false, then those whoa are true should be able do better him in an exemplary lifestyle.

When asked why he does not have a private jet, he replied that there is too much need to cater for; how can he go and spend such huge amounts on a jet. T.B Joshua's Ministry may not be as big as Oyedepo's and Redeem, but I know it's bigger than Ayo Oristajafor's Ministry. And trust me, T.B Joshua moves around the world more than him. How come he can go all over the world with his pastors without a private jet?

God's money is different to a business man's money. If a business man pays his tithe, the rest he may spend as he likes. But it is not so with God's money.

Forget that thing. Most of the Pastors can do without a private jet. It is more about a Status Symbol than it is about spreading the Gospel.

What some of this Pastors are doing can be compared to what our politcians are doing. The politicians, public servants, ministers, senators and President are entrusted with the wealth of the people. They squander it on their passions and frivolities. They run hotel bills like no man's business and allocate outrageous salaries to themselves.

The only difference is that while the politicians are doing it with people's money, the church leaders are doing with God's money.

In both cases it is not their money. The money is only entrusted into theri care.

kuntash:


well if u have time to come nairaland at this time like me, then we are both still not rich, u wey dey talk if u get cash 2day. u would want to sleep two houses in a night... if for any reason u have made progress in the last 5yrs of ur life, can u compare now and then? has anything changed?

also if u knw that when u spend one naira for God's work and u almost immediately get ten naira back... what would you do? guy go and ask those giving to God's work and weigh their progress.... some dey spend for Juju man place, some the other side, thats it o...

Honestly, I don't really get your point. Can some please help me out to understand what this guy is saying.

Our Nigerian Christains cannot think straight,since we are talking about priests,the people are supposed to brig in 10% ofm their harvest etc,and the Priest must not have any property....


why did Levi not earn a portion of the Land of Israel or its spoils together with its
brethren? Because it was set aside to serve God, to attend to Him, and to instruct His
upright ways and just laws to the masses… They were therefore set apart from the ways
of the world: they do not conduct warfare like the rest of Israel, nor do they receive a
portion of the land

http://www.torah.org/learning/rabbiwein/5761/shemos.html

and as a poster pointed out your men of God are priests not kings so there is no comparism,compare them with Samuel,Elijah,Moses,Paul,Jesus,etc and not David ,Solomon ETC.

odum desmond: My problem with ur like is that u cry more than the bereaved; has any person who gives tithes and offering ever come to u to complain about ur perceived exploitation? Surely those of us who "s*tupidly" give tithes and offering and also "st*upidly" get blessed in giving don't complain at all, infact I ve emptied my pocket several times for God and ve never failed to get double fold blessings in return, there is a mystery many pple re not aware of, it works for us and we can't just stop giving because ur type re crying out. My papa Bishop Oyedepo started out more than 30 years back from a thatched roof church in a remote village; he was a graduate with prospects in a Nigeria of that time when employers would come to plead with u on the day of ur graduation to work for them with huge and tempting offers of salary, accommodation and even car; but he chose God, he chose to become a preacher than work . He was rejected by his dominantly Muslim family, he was mocked at, his parents felt they had lost a son, but he held on to what he believed in. Today, after all his suffering, he has in turn become blessed by God and people are talkin; where were u wen he was goin thru all these for God? Life teaches us that there is no limit to the wat a man can attain in life if he remains dedicated, committed and upright; Oyedepo chose these and he is not only blessed today but has become a blessing to thousands employed in several businesses he has. He doesn't ve to earn from church offering or tithe, he also has interest in businesses and has access to the best brains to work for him. Let me even ask, a church that has more than a million memeber world wide, shud owing private jet be too much? Have u read about Kenneth Copeland, his church has as at 3 years back given away about 25 jets as gifts to other ministries world wide. Is jet too big for God's work? Would we rather have a man who would teach decency, love, morals, fear of God, etc to fly on private jet just to meet preaching schedules world wide than give
same private jet a Hollywood porn star/ artiste who only needs it to fly all over the world to promote nudity and immorality? The place we call Cannan land at Ota before Oyedepo came was a thick forest, the church has turned it to the best city in Nigeria, nobody is commending him and the church. Pastor Adeboye lived at Redeemed camp ground alone when it was a jungle with only him and his wife, surrounded by bush, no electricity, pipe borne water etc their kids refused living with them there, today it has become a city like none in Nigeria in terms of organisation and facilities, a fit no Govt with billions of oil money in Nigeria has accomplished , yet for them to fly on small 10 passenger private jet is causing uproar in Nigeria. God is watching us all. I believe that a man who has paid so much that many other re unwilling to pay should enjoy what others are not entitled to, all pastors can't be on same level.

Thanks for this educativee opinion. I wish the doubting thomases are listening to ua info. Preachers' schedule should not be subjected to the uncertainties of passenger flights scheduling when their ministries can now afford private flights. They didn't start at this level either. Many more Faithful servants of God will join the league soon,if Christ tarries His coming, and the uproar will die down. God is not mocked, whatever a man sows in this world, he reaps. On the day of harvest many forget the pains of the sowing. No one has ever complained of the numerous students on ministry scholarships in private universities!

free2ryhme: his choice of words lacks harmony

The Bottom line is that NIGERIANS lacks TRUTH in but prefers LIES.

Anyway that's your Opinion but he's only shedding LIGHT into the darkness which most of our ROGUES POLITICIAN fails to do.

When children of God Dey enjoy...evil people dey Vex!!!

lanre_front: You see, God's money is different from money made through business ventures.

Do you know that it maybe okay for a businessmen to buy a private jet for his travels, but it may not be okay for an organisation like an NGO or a Foundation for Cancer, Paralysis etc., who exists based on philanthropic contributions from the public to do the same.

It's just not. They will come under condemnation.


But using God's money, up to the tune of 40 to 50 million dollars to acquire private jets just blows away the mind. I mean God, that amount of money just because u wanna move around. I hear it cost about 300,000 dollars a year of cost to maintain a private. These includes parking space fees, pilot, repairs etc. Think of what $300k can achieve in the life of longstanding loyal members of the church who are faithful but poor and are always praying for breakthroughs.

And seriously, even though Winners Ministry is very big, I see no justification for owning a total of four jets.

Can we as Christians, from what we know of God's mind in the Bible, claim that Jesus is very happy about how HIS money is being spent. Yes, it is HIS money. If this big Pastors preach in their own names, no one will even listen to them twice. Yes as servants of God, they are supposed to eat of of it because the Bible says in the Old Testament " he who ministers at the altar should eat at the altar". But after eating well and having enough, they are supposed to carry out the MIND OF JESUS with rest of Jesus' money.

But you see them building (personal) houses after house,buying many cars after so many cars, and even now jets after jets.

The worst of all is that, top men of the Clergy don't even speak out against the evil that the leaders of the country are committing against the people. Go and check out through the Bible, in Israel, it is the duty of the Prophets that Lord has in His wisdom raised and made prominent above other Prophets to speak against evil in the land. God has made them prominent and respected so that their voice will be heard. With the exceptions of a few like Tunde Bakare, the so called Christian leaders have failed woefully in this aspect. They never speak against evil. In fact they fraternize and socialise with these people. This is why so many politicians and wife of politicians always feel at home frequenting Redeem Camp. Have you heard of any governor paying Bakare a visit? His the man that evil? No, it is because he is doing what the Bible expects people in his position to do: speak against evil. Yes, I know he has excesses but at least he is standing up to be counted in this regard and God will recognise him for it.
Someone tell me, what other job can be more important than the leadership of CAN speaking against the evil of corruption of our leaders which sucking the lives of the populace?

Then they say Ayo Orishajafor members gave him gift of over 40 million dollars. Who are those individuals that can afford such an expensive gift. In a sane country, this is enough reason for an investigation.

I would have married you if you were a girl, cause we think alike. 200 likes

This kind of news makes one feel like supporting Fashola's idea of taxing churches

Abu.Yinka:
You must really be a slowpoke o. Dis your pastor gets a very serious hold on your life. *smh*. Try work hard and leave offering and help your family member and those very close to you, you will see how much God's favour you will get.

Those Juju the pastors make with human parts are very potent - the moment it graps a man, the brain is gone. This is the case of Odum - the Juju is working on him seriously.

Akinlekanwr: how will you feel if you find urself in hell just because you judged these men of God...?

Who told you those guys you love to call men of God are not going to hell?

odum desmond: My problem with ur like is that u cry more than the bereaved; has any person who gives tithes and offering ever come to u to complain about ur perceived exploitation? Surely those of us who "s*tupidly" give tithes and offering and also "st*upidly" get blessed in giving don't complain at all, infact I ve emptied my pocket several times for God and ve never failed to get double fold blessings in return, there is a mystery many pple re not aware of, it works for us and we can't just stop giving because ur type re crying out. My papa Bishop Oyedepo started out more than 30 years back from a thatched roof church in a remote village; he was a graduate with prospects in a Nigeria of that time when employers would come to plead with u on the day of ur graduation to work for them with huge and tempting offers of salary, accommodation and even car; but he chose God, he chose to become a preacher than work . He was rejected by his dominantly Muslim family, he was mocked at, his parents felt they had lost a son, but he held on to what he believed in. Today, after all his suffering, he has in turn become blessed by God and people are talkin; where were u wen he was goin thru all these for God? Life teaches us that there is no limit to the wat a man can attain in life if he remains dedicated, committed and upright; Oyedepo chose these and he is not only blessed today but has become a blessing to thousands employed in several businesses he has. He doesn't ve to earn from church offering or tithe, he also has interest in businesses and has access to the best brains to work for him. Let me even ask, a church that has more than a million memeber world wide, shud owing private jet be too much? Have u read about Kenneth Copeland, his church has as at 3 years back given away about 25 jets as gifts to other ministries world wide. Is jet too big for God's work? Would we rather have a man who would teach decency, love, morals, fear of God, etc to fly on private jet just to meet preaching schedules world wide than give same private jet a Hollywood porn star/ artiste who only needs it to fly all over the world to promote nudity and immorality? The place we call Cannan land at Ota before Oyedepo came was a thick forest, the church has turned it to the best city in Nigeria, nobody is commending him and the church. Pastor Adeboye lived at Redeemed camp ground alone when it was a jungle with only him and his wife, surrounded by bush, no electricity, pipe borne water etc their kids refused living with them there, today it has become a city like none in Nigeria in terms of organisation and facilities, a fit no Govt with billions of oil money in Nigeria has accomplished , yet for them to fly on small 10 passenger private jet is causing uproar in Nigeria. God is watching us all. I believe that a man who has paid so much that many other re unwilling to pay should enjoy what others are not entitled to, all pastors can't be on same level.

I know i am not a very strong xtian,but i can't outline how more wrong you are.
Which of this MOG have passed through what paul passed through?
Were they victims of shipwreaks,hunger and lack,stoning,loneliness,anxiety,sorrow and despair,agony,?
Which of them is more deserving of a private jet than apostle paul?
If apostle paul reward on earth was death by beheading,then who the hell are these so-called MOG who think they deserve the world,because they served God for some few years.
These MOG should go read about the early church.
None of them were rewarded with wealth after serving the lord,as they all died some of the most gruesome death ever known to man.
Where did the MOG who believe God should reward them with wealth for serving him, spring out from?.
Smh for the sheeple.

iamSi: He says "Private Jet is a neccesity and not Luxury"
...Hmmmmm I wonder why Jesus didnt get a Canoe for Himself to sooth his ministry...
*thinking* How long are we going to deceive ourselves

*mark my words* ALL PASTORS ARE GOING DOWN SOON* "He said all pastors cant be on the same leverl, but how come all Apostles in the past were all on the same level?

hello, this is the 21st century. You can also ask questions like 'did jesus preach with a microphone'? Dat will be stupid because dis is d 21st century

OsunOriginal:

Those Juju the pastors make with human parts are very potent - the moment it graps a man, the brain is gone. This is the case of Odum - the Juju is working on him seriously.

Its not juju anything jare. It's because Christians of today idolize their Pastors.

Have anyone noticed how Pastors preach tithes and tithing which promises to give the givers blessings here on earth but neglect to preach Matthew 25:31-36 which preaches reaching out to those in need but also guarantee one to share in God's glory here after. Is it that Pastors and their 'followers' prefer their own heaven here on earth? Even St Paul advised that people should focus on things above not on things here on earth.

I wonder how i can get myself to give 10% of my income every month to my clergy who are neither hungry nor thirsty but neglect that widow who sobs every morning when she see other people children going to school but has no means to fund their own children education.

This is the real corruption of the church that Fr Kukah spoke against. These Pastors has succeeded in not only corrupting the true message but also corrupting thousands of their own followers. The Jesus I read about will prefer to go to Kirikiri to bring refreshing good news of salvation to hardened criminals even at a personal risk and he does not need private jet for that visit.