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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 9:41pm On Nov 30, 2012
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The thing is, men cannot ALWAYS be right. No human can always be right. Sometimes you are right and sometimes you are wrong; that is how life works so it might be wiser for the husband to let his wife have the final say sometimes. The woman might also be more knowledgeable or experienced in certain things they want to decide on.

It might also be that the wife is more intellectually sound than the husband (she might be smarter than him-yes it is possible) and I think this would make her better at decision making than him.



That is easier said than done. Why should they BOTH return to the drawing board when the man was the one who made a mistake.

very good questions.
Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 9:46pm On Nov 30, 2012
coogar:

of course, men cannot always be right.....and when he is wrong, the partner should come to his aid. she is expected to work with her partner to put things right and minimize the consequences rather than using them to prove a point or as an excuse for rejecting him in some way. a man who has a submissive wife acquires a greater sense of self respect because he knows that she respects his authority in her life and she is not in any way trying to belittle him.



if a man already knows the woman he's married to is smarter than him, there won't be any argument. for instance, i am a quack in the kitchen - it's not possible for me to argue at what point should salt or pepper be added to a pot of stew. it's not my forte so whatever my wife decides to do won't be contested by me - she's superior in that field....same principle applies if the subject is my area of my specialisation!




marriage is not a competiton.....it's a journey undertaken by the husband and the wife in which they have to take decisions on which road to take at every junction in their journey. there's going to be a time when the couple would desire taking different roads - this is where mutual respect is expected to kick in. if there's love between them, they would work it out between themselves which road to take. if they both decide on road 1, then road 1 it must be regardless of what the outcome is. they would either succeed together or fail together.......there's no shame in that!

very nice

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Mowire: 10:01pm On Nov 30, 2012
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Shouldn't our actions be logical before we decide to follow them? Should they not make sense to us first? Do we just follow them for following sake?
If you truely are a xtian (which I'm beginning to doubt) you'll realise that the LOGIC of your actions is in their conformity with the WORD of God; which was where you started your discourse.
Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by tellwisdom: 6:16pm On Dec 01, 2012
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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Afam4eva(m): 6:20pm On Dec 01, 2012
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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by surveyProf(m): 6:26pm On Dec 01, 2012
The model for husband and wife relationships is found in Ephesians 5:25. Husbands are to love their wives as Christ loved the church and be willing to lay down their lives for them. So, it is a self-sacrificial love, and the husband should put the wife first and look out for her and protect her. In Ephesians 5:22, it says that wives are to be in submission to their husband, that does not mean that she is a doormat; it means that a woman is submitting to a man who is fulfilling his God-given role.

Does these answers your question?

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by 50calibre(m): 6:32pm On Dec 01, 2012
Submission of my wife to me means

- She accepts and appreciates my superiority and never challenges nor contradicts my decision rather she can let her opinions known politely.

- She respects and see me as her priority coming second in her life after God and can only pray to God and hope that I reciprocate the respect.

- She sees me as her supreme leader, and should always make herself available without second thoughts or hesitation for her conjugal duties, cooking, or anything else should I demand it of her.

- She should see my love for her as a privileged and not a right, and should work tirelessly to earn and keep my love.
Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 6:33pm On Dec 01, 2012
Submission of women without sugar-coating:

1.) Your husband has the final say. If u like voice your opinions as much as u want, his want and will comes b4 urs
2.) He decides what you do to help the family. It's not your choice
3.) You are a subordinate, he is the boss!
4.) You help him achieve his dreams. Yours doesn't matter cos what ur goal and dream should be is helping him achieve his.

hheheehehee *evil grin*.....Submission is crap, plain oppression and bullsh1t! If a home has to hv a head, then let the smarter one take the role. The role shouldn't be defined by gender.

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 6:37pm On Dec 01, 2012
Why are more men not responding to this thread? You people are the ones always complaining that wives are not submissive enough to their husbands so why won't you give your opinions on the thread so that women will understand what you want more clearly?

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 6:39pm On Dec 01, 2012
50calibre: Submission of my wife to me means

- She accepts and appreciates my superiority and never challenges nor contradicts my decision rather she can let her opinions known politely.

- She respects and see me as her priority coming second in her life after God and can only pray to God and hope that I reciprocate the respect.

- She sees me as her supreme leader, and should always make herself available without second thoughts or hesitation for her conjugal duties, cooking, or anything else should I demand it of her.

- She should see my love for her as a privileged and not a right, and should work tirelessly to earn and keep my love.

Oh Lord have mercy and Jesus take the wheel.. Someone please shoot me now!

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by CHoccolaTE: 6:45pm On Dec 01, 2012
Mowire:
If you truely are a xtian (which I'm beginning to doubt) you'll realise that the LOGIC of your actions is in their conformity with the WORD of God; which was where you started your discourse.

So what you are saying is that people should follow whatever laws they find in the Bible without bothering to check if these laws are logical/commonsensical?

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by kennz(f): 6:48pm On Dec 01, 2012
Bein submisiv min,shwin Humility nd Respect 2ur husband. God has med man d head of d famli,weda or nt derz mney,wmen mst remain loyal 2dia husbnd nd be a supot 2him as he (d husband) teks d lid in hs famli as hedship. cool
Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by CHoccolaTE: 6:49pm On Dec 01, 2012
coogar:

you still don't get it.....
whatever decision the husband takes must have the wife's blessings. of course, she might not have agreed at the first but the husband was able to convince her to let them do it his way. the argument had stopped - they made a decision to take one road....it's now their decision not his decision. there were 2 roads - obviously, one of them must change his/her decision for the other party. the most important thing is that they both agreed to proceed with the decision they have taken.

I agree with the bolded. A successful marriage has to involve compromise from BOTH parties and not just one person.

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by CHoccolaTE: 6:51pm On Dec 01, 2012
Shollypopz: Submission of women without sugar-coating:

If a home has to hv a head, then let the smarter one take the role. The role shouldn't be defined by gender.


Nigerian men no go hear that one. This submission issue is very important to them.

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 6:57pm On Dec 01, 2012
Pow!! Pow!! Pow!!!

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 7:03pm On Dec 01, 2012
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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 7:06pm On Dec 01, 2012
How many times is this same thread going to be created on Nairaland....
Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Aifey(m): 7:12pm On Dec 01, 2012
Submission means Loyalty
Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by adora4u1: 7:13pm On Dec 01, 2012
50calibre: Submission of my wife to me means

- She accepts and appreciates my superiority and never challenges nor contradicts my decision rather she can let her opinions known politely.

- She respects and see me as her priority coming second in her life after God and can only pray to God and hope that I reciprocate the respect.

- She sees me as her supreme leader, and should always make herself available without second thoughts or hesitation for her conjugal duties, cooking, or anything else should I demand it of her.

- She should see my love for her as a privileged and not a right, and should work tirelessly to earn and keep my love.

BULLSHIT! You're not a MAN! More like an ANIMAL!

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by dinachi(m): 7:16pm On Dec 01, 2012
For submision to work the couple must know that they are not competing with each other but complimenting each other. This mindset makes submission very easy. It means the wife puts her desires and authority under that of her husband.It is a willing and concious effort. Let me also add that submission is only for the strong , the weak cannot submit because it requires alot of self control. Any woman who cannot submit lacks self control. The husband also must show the kind of love to the extent of laying down his life for his wife. These simple steps outlined above is the secret of great christian marriages.

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by adora4u1: 7:16pm On Dec 01, 2012
surveyProf: The model for husband and wife relationships is found in Ephesians 5:25. Husbands are to love their wives as Christ loved the church and be willing to lay down their lives for them. So, it is a self-sacrificial love, and the husband should put the wife first and look out for her and protect her. In Ephesians 5:22, it says that wives are to be in submission to their husband, that does not mean that she is a doormat; it means that a woman is submitting to a man who is fulfilling his God-given role.

Does these answers your question?

GBAM! You are a MAN!

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 7:18pm On Dec 01, 2012
Guns in the hands of the mentally unhinged? Jesus take the wheel indeed.
Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 7:18pm On Dec 01, 2012
Probably because d admonition for wives came first, we do not c d full picture. Read further & c d instruction for men. I believe evry woman will willingly submit to a man who puts her first & will readily sacrifice himself for her wellbeing.

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by HiDee2(m): 7:20pm On Dec 01, 2012
coogar: submission is a gift my wife chooses to give me...it's a free will, a decision she's made to be led by me, to accept my authority and to be my helper whenever i need aid.


@ coogar- i agree with you completely on that... A real man 'earns' and not 'demand' his wife's submission...
Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by trolling(m): 7:24pm On Dec 01, 2012
obey me when i make decisions that is best for our/your interest.obey me when i'm leading you in the path of salvation.all other things follows
Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by HiDee2(m): 7:25pm On Dec 01, 2012
50calibre: Submission of my wife to me means

- She accepts and appreciates my superiority and never challenges nor contradicts my decision rather she can let her opinions known politely.

- She respects and see me as her priority coming second in her life after God and can only pray to God and hope that I reciprocate the respect.

- She sees me as her supreme leader, and should always make herself available without second thoughts or hesitation for her conjugal duties, cooking, or anything else should I demand it of her.

- She should see my love for her as a privileged and not a right, and should work tirelessly to earn and keep my love.

Guy, you must be a dictator or at least, have that tendency of being one. If I were a lady, I go run from guy like you... I advise you change that 'selfish' attitude.

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by zannie(f): 7:32pm On Dec 01, 2012
So I'm expected to submit even when u beat me, abuse me in front of our children, cheat on me and show me absolutely no respect? Hahaha those days r long gone.
Submission is a beautiful thing required from a wife. But the husband should never forget the the first part which says husbands should love their wives. If you love someone you will respect the person deeply. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 7:33pm On Dec 01, 2012
I have been seeing the word "HELPER" being wrongly used to describe a wife. The wife should be a "HELP MEET". A helper is someone coming to help you, a help meet is someone that completes you and that is the role of the woman. She should complement and complete her husband. She is his missing rib.

The issue of submission is both scriptural and sensible. Most companies are never run on a 50/50 basis, there is always a CEO or Chairman who has overall responsibility and that is the man's role. He has overall responsibility and accountability. Submission to your husband means loyalty, commitment and sacrifice. It means trusting his judgement and deferring to him if you disagree. It means you should not insult, belittle or ridicule him. It means you should honour and love him. And a real man will respond by giving you undying love - sacrificing anything for you.

For the men, you should be a leader in your house and not a BOSS. You should serve your family and lead by example. Service includes financial and material provision, protection, emotional and psycological support. Bringing the children up (it is not only the responsibility of the wife) and showing unconditional love. You should have the vision for the family.

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 7:37pm On Dec 01, 2012
zannie:
So I'm expected to submit even when u beat me, abuse me in front of our children, cheat on me and show me absolutely no respect? Hahaha those days r long gone.
Submission is a beautiful thing required from a wife. But the husband should never forget the the first part which says husbands should love their wives. If you love someone you will respect the person deeply. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction

My sister, you are expected to submit to your husband in all cases. What God has also given you is the choice to choose your husband. So your responsibility to choose a husband that will not beat you or cheat on you. Open your eyes when dating so that you can choose the right man to submit to! A lot of women end up marrying the wrong guy for many reasons and lots of them know they are marrying the wrong person even at the time of marriage. Make sure you marry a good man!
Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 7:38pm On Dec 01, 2012
dinachi: For submision to work the couple must know that they are not competing with each other but complimenting each other. This mindset makes submission very easy. It means the wife puts her desires and authority under that of her husband.It is a willing and concious effort. Let me also add that submission is only for the strong , the weak cannot submit because it requires alot of self control. Any woman who cannot submit lacks self control. The husband also must show the kind of love to the extent of laying down his life for his wife. These simple steps outlined above is the secret of great christian marriages.
Any man that can't submit to his wife lacks self control, he is also very weak!! He has to put his desires and authority under that of his wife.

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by miredia(m): 7:40pm On Dec 01, 2012
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So what you are saying is that people should follow whatever laws they find in the Bible without bothering to check if these laws are logical/commonsensical?
. Aunty the Bible is not self-conflicting. Service to God is a one way traffic. According to God's geography class, there is no room to linger in the border. You are either his or the devils'. As heaven is distant to earth so are God's ways to mans'. God's commands does not necessarily have to patronise your desires and choices. If you want to obey God which is weightier than sacrificing the entire human race, then there are no compromises. With these said, a woman is expected to submit (yield, bend, listen, obey) totally to her husband except offcourse if his will defies the will of God. There are no short cuts in pleasing God. Now, let us understand that the true responsibility of a man is more tasking which is service (providential, emotional, spiritual e.t.c) to his wife. A man has to love his wife even if she's obese, a witch, a bad cook, a cheat and all ills thinkable. So you can now see, you can never be wiser than God. The problem however is refusal to follow simple laid down instruction but rather twist and turn.

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Re: What Does 'submission' Of Women In Marriages Mean Exactly? by Nobody: 7:41pm On Dec 01, 2012
I dont care what it means in the male world, it's not happening.

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