Shollypopz: Submission of women without sugar-coating:

1.) Your husband has the final say. If u like voice your opinions as much as u want, his want and will comes b4 urs
2.) He decides what you do to help the family. It's not your choice
3.) You are a subordinate, he is the boss!
4.) You help him achieve his dreams. Yours doesn't matter cos what ur goal and dream should be is helping him achieve his.

hheheehehee *evil grin*.....Submission is crap, plain oppression and bullsh1t! If a home has to hv a head, then let the smarter one take the role. The role shouldn't be defined by gender.

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So what you are saying is that people should follow whatever laws they find in the Bible without bothering to check if these laws are logical/commonsensical?

Ileke-IdI:
I dont care what it means in the male world, it's not happening.

Ileke-IdI:
I dont care what it means in the male world, it's not happening.

Nashville:
The issue of submission is both scriptural and sensible. Even though the God Trinity are one, there is a Senior Partner. Most companies are never run on a 50/50 basis, there is always a CEO or Chairman who has overall responsibility and that is the man's role. He has overall responsibility and accountability.

slimyem: All i require to be a submissive wife is that my husband respects me as much as i respect him....and all will be well!!

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]I really want to know because the Bible verses that talk about submission do not really expantiate on what it means for a woman to submit to her husband.
In Ephesians 5:22 - 24, Paul starts on the subject of husbands and wives with this statement, "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church; and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything."

What does the term 'submission' entail? Does it mean women should seek the approval of their husbands before they take any decision in life? Does it mean the husband is the one that is supposed to decide whatever major step the wife takes in life? Please I need to understand.

1. Men: What does submission mean to you? How do you expect a submissive wife to act?

2. Women: What things do you need to do to be regarded as a submissive wife?

Thanks for your contributions.

Witty07:

This is what submission means

Numbers 30
New International Version (NIV)
Vows

30 [a]Moses said to the heads of the tribes of Israel: “This is what the Lord commands: 2 When a man makes a vow to the Lord or takes an oath to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said.

3 “When a young woman still living in her father’s household makes a vow to the Lord or obligates herself by a pledge 4 and her father hears about her vow or pledge but says nothing to her, then all her vows and every pledge by which she obligated herself will stand. 5 But if her father forbids her when he hears about it, none of her vows or the pledges by which she obligated herself will stand; the Lord will release her because her father has forbidden her.

6 “If she marries after she makes a vow or after her lips utter a rash promise by which she obligates herself 7 and her husband hears about it but says nothing to her, then her vows or the pledges by which she obligated herself will stand. 8 But if her husband forbids her when he hears about it, he nullifies the vow that obligates her or the rash promise by which she obligates herself, and the Lord will release her.

9 “Any vow or obligation taken by a widow or divorced woman will be binding on her.

10 “If a woman living with her husband makes a vow or obligates herself by a pledge under oath 11 and her husband hears about it but says nothing to her and does not forbid her, then all her vows or the pledges by which she obligated herself will stand. 12 But if her husband nullifies them when he hears about them, then none of the vows or pledges that came from her lips will stand. Her husband has nullified them, and the Lord will release her. 13 Her husband may confirm or nullify any vow she makes or any sworn pledge to deny herself.[b] 14 But if her husband says nothing to her about it from day to day, then he confirms all her vows or the pledges binding on her. He confirms them by saying nothing to her when he hears about them. 15 If, however, he nullifies them some time after he hears about them, then he must bear the consequences of her wrongdoing.”

16 These are the regulations the Lord gave Moses concerning relationships between a man and his wife, and between a father and his young daughter still living at home.

50calibre: Submission of my wife to me means

- She accepts and appreciates my superiority and never challenges nor contradicts my decision rather she can let her opinions known politely.

- She respects and see me as her priority coming second in her life after God and can only pray to God and hope that I reciprocate the respect.

- She sees me as her supreme leader, and should always make herself available without second thoughts or hesitation for her conjugal duties, cooking, or anything else should I demand it of her.

- She should see my love for her as a privileged and not a right, and should work tirelessly to earn and keep my love.

Pimples:

Reading through your post, only one thing came to mind. DICTATOR.
You sound as if you are some sort of god. You really need to improve as far as equality and justice is concerned.

sanb: Wow...dude are you for real? These rules are what you find in a military camp; SMH...I hope you ain't gonna use these rules to scare your spouse...

50calibre:

There is something called HIERARCHY, are everyone in the military or a country or an organization equal? Equality doesnt apply to marriage and family life, the moment equality [b]and justice [/b]is brought into the family, the family goes into chaos and ruin.

adora4u1:

BULLSHIT! You're not a MAN! More like an ANIMAL!

50calibre:

There is something called HIERARCHY, are everyone in the military or a country or an organization equal? Equality doesnt apply to marriage and family life, the moment equality and justice is brought into the family, the family goes into chaos and ruin.

ileobatojo:

Thank God you still have the presence of mind to admit that there is no justice in your method. There may still be hope yet for the poor woman caught in your web..

Ileke-IdI:
I dont care what it means in the male world, it's not happening.

all4naija: It means a male chauvinism of silly traditional practices to imprison women. I think both couples have to be of equal responsibility in most cases.

mikuz:
You getting it wrong. This has nothing to do with chauvinism.

50calibre:

A real woman who wishes to live under a man, commit her self to him and forge a future for her and her kids, shouldn't expect justice but leadership from her husband