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Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by Antivirus92(m): 7:00am On Dec 27, 2012
Where are your comments, peeps?
Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by odumchi: 7:22am On Dec 27, 2012
Ginwa kwan? I deachilara m na ihe m dere?
Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by Antivirus92(m): 2:58pm On Dec 31, 2012
odumchi: Ginwa kwan? I deachilara m na ihe m dere?
too busy this time around. Will get more chances by mid-january.
Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by ba7man(m): 5:08pm On Dec 31, 2012
If anyone feels the white man hasn't contributed anything worthwhile to Africa, the might as well move out of the cities and go back to small scale farming, drop their smartphones and pick up their gongs, drop their automobiles and start walkin round,forget about 3D TV and go back to moonlight games, the list is endless. Our problems have and always remain "Ourselves". The whiteman never forcefully captured us for slavery but we were sold by our fellow Africans to them. Slave trade was the highest income earner at a time in Africa and Africans that benefited from it actually fought against its abolishion.
Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by Antivirus92(m): 8:49pm On Dec 31, 2012
ba7man: If anyone feels the white man hasn't contributed anything worthwhile to Africa, the might as well move out of the cities and go back to small scale farming, drop their smartphones and pick up their gongs, drop their automobiles and start walkin round,forget about 3D TV and go back to moonlight games, the list is endless. Our problems have and always remain "Ourselves". The whiteman never forcefully captured us for slavery but we were sold by our fellow Africans to them. Slave trade was the highest income earner at a time in Africa and Africans that benefited from it actually fought against its abolishion.
Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by Nobody: 12:22am On Jan 01, 2013
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Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by ba7man(m): 1:42pm On Jan 01, 2013
We had Religions of fear. Sango, Oya, Sopana (How can u worship Chicken pox?? I mean how daft). We Worshiped what we couldn't understand. Rather than cut a tree and turn it into tools, tables nd chairs, we would tie a piece of cloth on it and worship it, when confronted with d ocean, rather than build boats to explore it, we would worship it.....Whites decided to explore the world and discovered us in our state, took advantage of it and here we are today. We still Worship "Money" today (We praise sing any rich person without first questioning the wealth's source).
Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by Antivirus92(m): 8:36pm On Jan 01, 2013
ba7man: We had Religions of fear. Sango, Oya, Sopana (How can u worship Chicken pox?? I mean how daft). We Worshiped what we couldn't understand. Rather than cut a tree and turn it into tools, tables nd chairs, we would tie a piece of cloth on it and worship it, when confronted with d ocean, rather than build boats to explore it, we would worship it.....Whites decided to explore the world and discovered us in our state, took advantage of it and here we are today. We still Worship "Money" today (We praise sing any rich person without first questioning the wealth's source).
i love ur comments. You truely understand what i mean. Our fore-fathers worship anything around them,trees,animals,sky,water bodies etc instead of putting them into use. That's why we remained in the dark till the white men came.
Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by ezeagu(m): 10:11pm On Jan 01, 2013
You have to actually know how your people lived first before you start making evaluations. I can see from your comments that you haven't taken the time to research anything.

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Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by PhysicsQED(m): 11:05pm On Jan 01, 2013
ba7man: Sopana (How can u worship Chicken pox?? I mean how daft)

I don't think small pox itself was what was actually being worshipped: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/1160301

Also, go and find out what Shitala, Mariamman, Hoso-no-Kami, and T’ou Shen Niang-Niang are and let me know if it is still so "daft" an idea when you find out.

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Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by Antivirus92(m): 4:05am On Jan 02, 2013
ezeagu: You have to actually know how your people lived first before you start making evaluations. I can see from your comments that you haven't taken the time to research anything.
okay sir,
Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by Sladem05: 10:31am On Mar 29
pleep:
^ you are right. The standard of living in Africa has been steadily decreasing ever since the first European contact, despite the modernization brought by Europeans. So it really depends on what you guys consider development.

Nonsense, With or without colonisation Africa would be poor.
Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by Sladem05: 10:36am On Mar 29
somalia8:



dear monkey. If you have any idea of history, then you would know that somalis were using cannons before europeans, that northern somalia was fighting with the help of the ottoman empire the ethiopians with guns when whites were taking your people in ships as slaves with your peoples compliance.


you would also know that we were sailing and trading and that we as a people were trading on sail boats commodities that europeans had no access to for thousands of years. forcing europeans to go around the world to find INDIA because arabs/muslims would not let them go through their territory.


Electricity was only invented 200 years ago. Somalis had paper from the chinese who invented it while europeans were living in mudhuts, somalis along with the muslim world were far in advance of the west for the better part of 800 ad to late 1800's. dont let the whites who did achievemetns only 200 years ago make you think they were always ahead of the curve. But then again you are their slave so i wouldnt expect any diffrence. Much of what the west has was because of inventions from ARABS, ASIANS, ETC.

Did you know horners invented coffee, yet whites dont think about that every time they chug down a cup of coffee every morning on their way to work.



But they were and so was Asia hence why the Arabs were able to conquer Africa too. Look at Ancient Rome and Greece, that even by today’s standards is in many ways more sophisticated than Africa. Africa has always lagged behind the rest of the world. Romans and Greeks conquered North Africa and The Middle East.
Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by Sladem05: 10:39am On Mar 29
ba7man:
If anyone feels the white man hasn't contributed anything worthwhile to Africa, the might as well move out of the cities and go back to small scale farming, drop their smartphones and pick up their gongs, drop their automobiles and start walkin round,forget about 3D TV and go back to moonlight games, the list is endless. Our problems have and always remain "Ourselves". The whiteman never forcefully captured us for slavery but we were sold by our fellow Africans to them. Slave trade was the highest income earner at a time in Africa and Africans that benefited from it actually fought against its abolishion.

It was both ways. Europeans raiding plantations and taking slaves or trading with kings.
Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by ba7man(m): 7:31am On Apr 03
Sladem05:


It was both ways. Europeans raiding plantations and taking slaves or trading with kings.
Who else did they use to raid the plantations and settlements?

Black folks of course.
Re: If Not For The Coming Of The Europeans....would Africa Ever Develop? by Sladem05: 3:13pm On Apr 03
ba7man:
Who else did they use to raid the plantations and settlements?

Black folks of course.

Yes but they were under their influence. A lot of the time they would also conquer the kingdoms and then enslave the people. Look at Dahomey, Benin Expedition and so on. Africans lost to the Europe because of the technological gap, worse tactics and so on.

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