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Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by adekennis(m): 1:31pm On Feb 18, 2008 |
Well i noticed this,we Nigerian often speak pidgin english more than britsh english we called our official language in some offices even in a banks,its what av really noticed,we often speak pidgin english to our coleagues, even in some african countries they also speaks this language. buy my question is that where this PIDGIN english originate from? |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by drrionelli(m): 1:31am On Feb 20, 2008 |
This is a good question. And, it might be helpful to people, like myself, who encounter Pidgin here, but are perplexed by its words and grammar. |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by Lady2(f): 5:46am On Feb 20, 2008 |
my thoughts are when the english man came to us, we didn't exactly pronounce his language well and from there a "dirty" way of speaking it came to be. I believe it's also the same reason why haitians speak creole. 1 Like |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by adekennis(m): 8:07am On Feb 20, 2008 |
@lady thanks for d reply please nairalander i still need more responce |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by NaJaHaJe(f): 6:56pm On Feb 20, 2008 |
I think it originates from the colonial days. African were trying to incoporate the English language with thier various dialects and so spoke 'english' by feelings and sound and also what it would mean if an english sentence were translated into thier language. Pidgin English means broken english ---- this may mean language that is spoken with more nouns than anything else. 1 Like |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by naijadiva2(f): 6:57pm On Feb 20, 2008 |
~Lady~: yeah, it makes sense. there's really no "one" place that started speaking it. People in different parts of the world just give it a different name and add their local dialects to it . In Hawaii and Papua new Guinea, they speak Pidgin, spelled Pijin(i think) buts is not exactly the same as Nigerian Pidgin English. |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by drrionelli(m): 8:05pm On Feb 20, 2008 |
~Lady~ has an interesting idea, but isn't there a difference between a "creole" and a "pidgin" language? |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by naijadiva2(f): 8:25pm On Feb 20, 2008 |
drrionelli: i think they are still the same. here's a link that gives more info about pidgin/creole, its not a lot but its something. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by tamme: 4:39am On Oct 16, 2009 |
so it originated from where? |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by agathamari(f): 4:59pm On Oct 21, 2009 |
i have been wondering that too. well more where do they get the words themselves. they arnt english words like in ebonics. they arn french words as in creole. they arent traditional words. it is like a jumbled mess of english words with new definitions and made up words |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by udezue(m): 9:03pm On Oct 21, 2009 |
It originated from Ikot Abasi then spread to Aba, Zaki Biam and other parts of Nigeria. |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by madlady(f): 1:07am On Oct 22, 2009 |
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Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by Nobody: 4:58pm On Oct 22, 2009 |
seriously, the whole world cant originate from Nigeria nah cut other places some slack. back in those days, most of the slaves mixed and intermarried with each other after they'd been cut loose from their old tribes. some were able to hold on to memories of their former lives but by the next generation, it couldnt be the same. |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by bawomolo(m): 6:03pm On Oct 22, 2009 |
madlady: you do realize pidgin English is prevalent in west africa right. just saying. |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by madlady(f): 6:11pm On Oct 22, 2009 |
tipa. Of course you are right,to a point, but so much research does show the the cradle of civilization began in that region. |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by madlady(f): 6:14pm On Oct 22, 2009 |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by Nobody: 6:17pm On Oct 22, 2009 |
madlady: a lot of pidgin/creole also originated from the slave ships and holding pens (baracoons). I believe it was the main lingua franca in those places. |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by madlady(f): 6:21pm On Oct 22, 2009 |
tpia. Now that really and truly makes a lot of sense, kind of like a secret language, so the slave masters could not understand what was being said. |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by Nobody: 6:31pm On Oct 22, 2009 |
madlady: sorry hon the slave masters, slave traders and sometimes slaves more or less communicated in pidgin. The slaves would have picked it up while being held for shipment maybe. It was also a trade language |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by madlady(f): 6:50pm On Oct 22, 2009 |
tpia We live and learn, that's why so many of us over this way like/love this NL of a place (apart from the fights ) |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by Nobody: 6:51pm On Oct 22, 2009 |
^^ hang around Nigerians long enough and you'll learn their style of fighting comes with the territory |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by madlady(f): 6:59pm On Oct 22, 2009 |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by Nobody: 7:01pm On Oct 22, 2009 |
madlady: their mommas have the same mouth so dont worry about it. and no, JAs still hold the trophy when it comes to mouth. btw, I've had JAs cuss me out for no other reason than my being African so what are you saying again? and tell the Nl guys you're referring to to go easy on the threats- lest they see wen. |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by chic2pimp(m): 12:04am On Oct 23, 2009 |
tpia.:ROFLMAO BUHAHAHAHAHA |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by Nobody: 3:51am On Oct 23, 2009 |
it wasnt that funny |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by Konadub: 6:06am On Oct 23, 2009 |
Which English Pidgin? English pidgin comes fromĀ English/European powers whom colonized enslaved, dominated financially/political others. African American Vernacular is just short of a pidgin. It contains many grammatical, words, and linguistically features of African language systems. Haitians and Jamaicans speak actual pidgins like Nigerians. I.E no nyami(to eat) pussy, Or the word Yam originated from West Africa slaves in America. |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by madlady(f): 6:28am On Oct 23, 2009 |
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Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by rabzy: 5:26pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
The edos call Yam- iyan. could possibly have come from there |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by kannymoore(m): 11:04am On Nov 26, 2009 |
The origin of Pidgin is right under ur noses. Pidgin originated frm portuguese. They were the first europeans to berth in nigeria, the edo- kingdom and started the trans-atlantic slave trade. Dont forget that they also had colonial influence in some american countries, brazil in particular. Words like "na", "sabi", "wetin", "de", "una", etc have portuguese origin. The british came later and the result was an admixture of both languages plus some native lingo. Hey, havent any of u noticed that the pidgin of the edo and warri ppl sound quite peculiar!? My two pence actually. Lol! |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by Rapmoney(m): 4:31pm On Dec 03, 2009 |
Where Pidgin English originated from? Ah!!! From my grandfather's backyard |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by Nobody: 11:27pm On Jun 24, 2012 |
Caribbeans (mostly Jamaicans) brought pidgin to west Africa. During slavery and even after it was abolished. Caribbean slaves (or former slaves) were given the green light to travel to Africa and aid missionaries in introducing Christianity. Not all of them returned back to the Caribbean and settled in Africa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Pidgin Bios of a FEW Jamaican missionaries: http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20030520/mind/mind3.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Merrick_(missionary) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameroon Joseph Merrick was a Jamaican Baptist missionary who established a church among the Isubu of the coast. http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20031007/mind/mind1.html https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://english.chass.ncsu.edu/obsidian/Issues/sni/Obsidian_volume_issue_8.2/Kwame_Dawes.pdf&pli=1 ....... So we got our Patois by mixing African languages from ALL OVER the continent including Nigeria however, the actual pidgin itself came from Caribbeans esp. Jamaicans. Same thing with Sierra Leonean Creole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krio_language 1 Like |
Re: Where Does Pidgin English Originate From by Nobody: 8:05am On Aug 25, 2012 |
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