Infallible Proofs
January 3, 2013.

"To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God" (Acts 1:3).

To the first Christians, faith in the deity of Christ was not a blind leap into the dark. Only God could defeat death, and they knew--beyond all doubt--that Jesus Christ had risen bodily from the tomb. They had seen Him, touched Him, and eaten with Him, alone and in crowds, in closed rooms, and out in the open.

The term "infallible proofs" translates a Greek word used only this one time, meaning literally "many criteria of certainty," and it is significant that the inspired Word of God applies it only to the resurrection of Christ. It is not too much to say that Christ's resurrection is the most certain fact in all history, and many large volumes have been published setting forth the evidences thereof. No wonder the apostle Peter could say, "We have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty" (2 Peter 1:16).

The apostle John testified thus: "The life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us" (1 John 1:2). John not only saw Him in His resurrection body, but also in His glorified body, hearing Him say, "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore" (Revelation 1:18 ).

It is true that we, like the first Christians, must believe on Christ to receive salvation, but this faith is not a credulous faith, a leap into the dark. It is a reasonable faith, based on many infallible proofs, and we can, therefore, trust Him with our eternal souls. HMM

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Genesis 17:12

1000's of years later after the verse above was written, science discovered blood-clotting in newborns peak on the 8th day. This is a skeptic mouth stopper.

Job 40:15-24

The verse above is a perfect description of the dinosaur by the Uncreated Creator, the Almighty God, it also says why it went extinct. This is another skeptic mouth-stopper.

Read Job chapters 38-39

And discover God's revelation of an explosion of undiscovered scientific facts which has been revealed 3000 years ago. This is ample evidence for any honest skeptic seeker.

In Job chapters 24-28 and chapter 26:14

We read:

"He hangs the earth upon nothing"

This is evidence of divine inspiration, written 3000 years before science discovered it. Yet another skeptic Mouth Stopper.

Skeptic Mouth Stoppers

Job also stated,

"[God] made a decree for the rain, and a way for the lightning of the thunder" (Job 28:26).

Centuries later, scientists began to discern the "decrees [rules] for the rain." Rainfall is part of a process called the "water cycle." The sun evaporates water from the ocean. The water vapour then rises and becomes clouds. This water in the clouds falls back to earth as rain, and collects in streams and rivers, then makes its way back to the ocean. That process repeats itself again and again. About years ago, Galileo discovered this cycle. But amazingly the Scriptures described it centuries before. The prophet Amos (Amos 9:6) wrote that God "calls for the water of the sea, and pours them out upon the face of the earth." Scientists are just beginning to fully understand God's "decrees for the rain."

"Nevertheless He left not Himself without witness, in that He did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons filling our hearts with food and gladness." -- Acts 14:17

Skeptic Mouth Stoppers

For ages, scientists believed in a geocentric view of the universe. The difference between night and day were believed to be caused by the sun revolving around the earth. Today, we know that the earth's rotation on its axis is responsible for the suns "rising and setting." But 4,000 or more years ago, it was written,

"Have you commanded the morning since your days; and caused the day spring [dawn] to know his place? . . . It [the earth] is turned as clay to the seal" (Job 38:12,14).

The picture here is of a clay vessel being turned or rotated upon the potter's wheel. This is an accurate analogy of the earth's rotation. -- The Evidence Bible

Skeptic Mouth Stoppers


"And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly" -- 2 Peter 2:5 The Evidence Bible

In Genesis chapter 6, God gave Noah the dimensions of the 1.5 million cubic foot ark he was to build. In 1609 at Hoon in Holland, a ship was built after that same pattern, revolutionizing shipbuilding. By 1900 every large ship on the high seas was inclined towards the proportions of the ark.

(as verified by "Lloyd's Register of Shipping" in the World Almanac).

OLAADEGBU:

In Job chapters 24-28 and chapter 26:14

We read:

"He hangs the earth upon nothing"

This is evidence of divine inspiration, written 3000 years before science discovered it. Yet another skeptic Mouth Stopper.

This is certainly a skeptic mouth stopper.

OLAADEGBU:

Genesis 17:12

1000's of years later after the verse above was written, science discovered blood-clotting in newborns peak on the 8th day. This is a skeptic mouth stopper.

"And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations" (Genesis 17:12a).

Skeptic mouth stopper.

Erm how old are you Olaadegbu....


Seriously

Logicboy03: Erm how old are you Olaadegbu....


Seriously

14 or 15?

Skeptics have good reasons not to believe then cos we haven't seen Jesus rise from the dead, so we are justified!

God bless you so much, bro Ola. Defending the scriptures is no a popular task for christians. May God strengthen you. Titus 1:9-11

9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, ..............

11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
KJV

Kay 17: Skeptics have good reasons not to believe then cos we haven't seen Jesus rise from the dead, so we are justified!

so you believe our world consist entirely of what we see, and any phenomenom see didnt see is authomatically false? so much for the atheist who think they are they wisest.

Rhymeyjohn: so you believe our world consist entirely of what we see, and any phenomenom see didnt see is authomatically false? so much for the atheist who think they are they wisest.

Mister, Jesus set himself as a physical example/proof of his resurrection, therefore we are entitled to such a privilege! The Bible justified the apostles' Faith via physical proof!

Besides I never said the physical is all there is.

Rhymeyjohn: so you believe our world consist entirely of what we see, and any phenomenom see didnt see is authomatically false? so much for the atheist who think they are they wisest.

Mister, Jesus set himself as a physical example/proof of his resurrection, therefore we are entitled to such a privilege! The Bible justified the apostles' Faith via physical proof!

Besides I never said the physical is all there is. However physical proofs are the clearest and unequivocal proofs.

Kay 17:

Skeptics have good reasons not to believe then cos we haven't seen Jesus rise from the dead, so we are justified!

Evidence of Christ's resurrection:

The fact that Abraham Lincoln was born, became president, or was assassinated cannot be proven using scientific methods. To be scientific it must be repeatable (as in the testing of gravity). The proofs that Lincoln did exist and was a historical figure are:

1. the written evidence,
2. eyewitness testimony,
3. physical evidence that remains to this day at the Ford Theatre, birth records and newspaper articles regarding his election.

All these facts are acceptable in a court of law as proof to a judge and jury.

Garry T. Ansdell (D.D.) made a case out of this when he stated that "The resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead is evidential:

1. the empty tomb still exists,
2. His birth record is documented all the way back to Adam and Eve,
3. the four Gospels record His death;
4. the location, even the names of the political leaders who sentenced Him are historically recorded;
5. there were more than five hundred eyewitnesses who saw Jesus after the resurrection, recorded by the New Testament writers;
6. the very existence of the Christian faith, based on His death and resurrection;
7. the cultural and political evidence at the time, including the Roman calender separating all of time into Before Christ (B.C.) and in the year of our Lord (A.D.)."

OLAADEGBU:

Evidence of Christ's resurrection:

The fact that Abraham Lincoln was born, became president, or was assassinated cannot be proven using scientific methods. To be scientific it must be repeatable (as in the testing of gravity). The proofs that Lincoln did exist and was a historical figure are:

1. the written evidence,
2. eyewitness testimony,
3. physical evidence that remains to this day at the Ford Theatre, birth records and newspaper articles regarding his election.

All these facts are acceptable in a court of law as proof to a judge and jury.

Garry T. Ansdell (D.D.) made a case out of this when he stated that "The resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead is evidential:

1. the empty tomb still exists,
2. His birth record is documented all the way back to Adam and Eve,
3. the four Gospels record His death;
4. the location, even the names of the political leaders who sentenced Him are historically recorded;
5. there were more than five hundred eyewitnesses who saw Jesus after the resurrection, recorded by the New Testament writers;
6. the very existence of the Christian faith, based on His death and resurrection;
7. the cultural and political evidence at the time, including the Roman calender separating all of time into Before Christ (B.C.) and in the year of our Lord (A.D.)."

Hmmm.

The physical evidence involved requires no forensic analysis? No general body of knowledge to refer to?! The physical evidence would not be self evident without being referred to common knowledge hence rendered scientific!

Anyway I'm interested in your case for Jesus.

Handling your court standard proofs. Your evidence for Jesus falls apart. Mainly from hearsay evidence.

1. The eyewitnesses testimonies suffer from hearsay

2. The so-call empty tomb is unidentified.

3. The Gospels lack coherence and harmony

4. The Gospels do not identify their sources.

Too many problems Ola.

Kay 17:

Hmmm.

The physical evidence involved requires no forensic analysis? No general body of knowledge to refer to?! The physical evidence would not be self evident without being referred to common knowledge hence rendered scientific!

Anyway I'm interested in your case for Jesus.

Handling your court standard proofs. Your evidence for Jesus falls apart. Mainly from hearsay evidence.

1. The eyewitnesses testimonies suffer from hearsay

2. The so-call empty tomb is unidentified.

3. The Gospels lack coherence and harmony

4. The Gospels do not identify their sources.

Too many problems Ola.

Don't forget. The gospels were also anonymously written.

As stated in the Bible ( Leviticus 11:19), bats are birds. Science still has not figured this out. Skeptical, atheist scientists still think bats are rodents. This info will surely shut up any skeptic.

Kay 17:

Hmmm.

The physical evidence involved requires no forensic analysis? No general body of knowledge to refer to?! The physical evidence would not be self evident without being referred to common knowledge hence rendered scientific!

What forensic analysis did require for you to believe Abraham Lincoln existed?

Kay 17:

Anyway I'm interested in your case for Jesus.

Handling your court standard proofs. Your evidence for Jesus falls apart. Mainly from hearsay evidence.

1. The eyewitnesses testimonies suffer from hearsay

But you believe the eyewitnesses of Abraham Lincoln's existence, no?

Kay 17:

2. The so-call empty tomb is unidentified.

If I show you the evidence will you believe it?

Kay 17:

3. The Gospels lack coherence and harmony

This is just an emotional outburst, where is your evidence?

Kay 17:

4. The Gospels do not identify their sources.

They did, it's just that you've refused to believe it.

Kay 17:

Too many problems Ola.

All the problems you listed are only problems of the skeptics. The OP is the skeptic mouth stopper that you need.

NoProphecy:

Don't forget. The gospels were also anonymously written.

Is that what you believe?

NoProphecy:

As stated in the Bible ( Leviticus 11:19), bats are birds. Science still has not figured this out. Skeptical, atheist scientists still think bats are rodents. This info will surely shut up any skeptic.

Let us read it its context instead of all these emotional assertions that has no basis.

"These are the birds you are to detest and not eat because they are detestable: the eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, the red kite, any kind of black kite, any kind of raven, the horned owl, the screech owl, the grull, any kind of hawk, the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl, the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey, the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat" (Leviticus 11:13-19; NIV).

The alleged problem here is in the translation of the Hebrew word owph.  The Hebrew word owph means a fowl or a winged creature.  The KJV actually translated it as a fowl.  The owph actually means 'to fly' or 'has wings'.  This word includes birds and bats and even flying insects.  But when some translations of the Bible use the word birds it then appears as if there are scientific errors in the Bible thus undermining biblical authority.  A bat has wings and can fly and thus qualifies as an owph (winged creature). -- Another skeptic mouth stopper.

OLAADEGBU:

What forensic analysis did require for you to believe Abraham Lincoln existed?

But you believe the eyewitnesses of Abraham Lincoln's existence, no?



If I show you the evidence will you believe it?

This is just an emotional outburst, where is your evidence?



They did, it's just that you've refused to believe it.



All the problems you listed are only problems of the skeptics. The OP is the skeptic mouth stopper that you need.

1. The so called eyewitnesses do not testify directly, rather the Gospel writers testify based on hearsay from the purported eyewitnesses' testimony.

2. Do provide the evidence of the tomb as that of Jesus.

3. Inconsistency among the Gospels, which I will handle separately.

4. What are Matthew's Mark's Luke's sources?!

Kay 17:

1. The so called eyewitnesses do not testify directly, rather the Gospel writers testify based on hearsay from the purported eyewitnesses' testimony.

Shall we say that you've conceded that you also believe in hearsay as regards to the existences of Abraham Lincoln?

Kay 17:

2. Do provide the evidence of the tomb as that of Jesus.

You will have to agree to the caveat that you will believe if I provide the evidence.

Kay 17:

3. Inconsistency among the Gospels, which I will handle separately.

The onus is on you to supply the evidence if truly it exists.

Kay 17:

4. What are Matthew's Mark's Luke's sources?!

Will you believe if I tell you their sources?

"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." -- Hebrews 11:3

Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Skeptic Mouth Stopper

OLAADEGBU:

Evidence of Christ's resurrection:

Garry T. Ansdell (D.D.) made a case out of this when he stated that "The resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead is evidential:

1. the empty tomb still exists

Where is the empty tomb located?. . .Pls can you tell me where it is located so that I can go and have a look at it?. . .You are still here peddling these lies, eh?. . .

mazaje:

Where is the empty tomb located?. . .Pls can you tell me where it is located so that I can go and have a look at it?. . .You are still here peddling these lies, eh?. . .

If I show you where the empty tomb is located will you become a believer?

OLAADEGBU:

If I show you where the empty tomb is located will you become a believer?

You can't show me because no such tomb exist any where, right now we have three alleged tombs of Jesus in Israel. The main tomb of Jesus which is the church of holy sepulchre used to be temple of Aphrodite before it was converted to the tomb of Jesus in the 2nd century. So Which empty tomb are you talking about?. . . .

mazaje:

You can't show me because no such tomb exist any where, right now we have three alleged tombs of Jesus in Israel. The main tomb of Jesus which is the church of holy sepulchre used to be temple of Aphrodite before it was converted to the tomb of Jesus in the 2nd century. So Which empty tomb are you talking about?. . . .

You have been barking up the wrong tree. I ask again, if I show you the real McCoy will you believe?