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well i hope you guys know that you can still revert to the classical interface if you want which is what i do since i thing i work faster that way

blackweaver:
well i hope you guys know that you can still[b] revert to the classical interface[/b] if you want which is what i do since i thing i work faster that way

can u give more info/detail on that?
tnx

@ lynx at the login screen, after you've selected your username, b4 entering ur password if you look at the taskbar below from the left you'll see regional settings (mine says english nigeria), keyboard layout (mine says usa ) and session (should be showing ubuntu) respectively. Click on the scroll button to the right of the session and in the menu that comes up select "Ubuntu classic", enter your password and login. Sorry no images, haven't figured out how to take a screensshot without being logged on

blackweaver:
@ lynx at the login screen, after you've selected your username, b4 entering your password if you look at the taskbar below from the left you'll see regional settings (mine says english nigeria), keyboard layout (mine says usa ) and session (should be showing ubuntu) respectively. Click on the scroll button to the right of the session and in the menu that comes up select "Ubuntu classic", enter your password and login. Sorry no images, haven't figured out how to take a screensshot without being logged on

oh ok . . . . i know dat process
tot it wud involve rooting n stuff
tnx

@lynx, u mean the dash brings up everything on ur pc? hmnn.

actually it does locate my docs too but only if i have worked on that doc recently. it seems it only regs them when iv opened them at least once. and id have to do over 7k docs.

and it absolutely does not index doc contents, i know cos i checked. hmnn do these things work for u?

maybe i try set up zeitgest, but integrating it is a pain without the proper plugins, and i aint no programmer.

again i have most of my stuff on anor dedicated drive, set to automount, maybe thats why?


they improved synaptic A LOT. broken packages and apt lock can be resolved in now properly. and some other stuff i cant remember right away.

just for the record, my desktop

@4ller
i tink u r rite jare . . . . . . it only locates wat u\ve opened b4
jst dropped catfish, will try n setup zeitgest n c wat comes up
well as long as dey dnt find somtin to do to resolve aptoncd from versions below 11.04, manual upgrading is still wack to me
kst my 2 cents sha

@lynx, i found a project for meta search and indexing. dunno if its still active tho.
its called tracker. im not near my pc so i dont know if it still works or supported. will check it out l8r.

4llerbuntu:
@lynx, i found a project for meta search and indexing. dunno if its still active tho.
its called tracker. im not near my pc so i dont know if it still works or supported. will check it out l8r.

kk, no probs
let me google n see how far

4llerbuntu:
@lynx, i found a project for meta search and indexing. dunno if its still active tho.
its called tracker. im not near my pc so i dont know if it still works or supported. will check it out l8r.

Tracker has always been a part of gnome. It is what gnome uses for search and indexing of files. It was formerly in competition with Beagle from Novel but was adopted as default for gnome due to lower memory footprint. It is also being used in maemo and the meego project.

Anyway gnomies and Ubuntu guys how is Unity doing? I have not had the time to test it out. (maybe I will one of this days) I tried gnome 3 though and I just know its not for me. feels more like something that would be great on a small screen touch device. I get the same vibe for Unity. Anyway I am just glad that KDE is in a stable and polishing stage. I am running Kubuntu 11.04 and so far its going as smooth as butter. Never have I used a desktop environment that is this seamless. Mightily powerful and configuration (Kde rocks honestly cant say that enough) I also love the fact that most of the job that goes into it comes from upstream so nothing there is Kubuntu specific. Anyway just said to drop by. I won't leave without a screenshot (or two )

ok so i finally found my first bug in unity. serious one too as far as i can tell.

i installed the proprietary drivers for my laptop (ATI card) and rebooted. all i got upon reboot was the wallpaper!!! no desktop. even worse all the keyboard shortcuts i knew for unity were not working, even alt+f2.

ctrl alt del worked to reboot, so i went into recovery option in grub, booted into the safe mode low vga desktop and enabled the login page. (usually i disable it, its just me using my pc). when i did that, i rebooted and choose the classic desktop and that worked fine.

lo and behold unity had disappeared!!

at first i thought it was the driver i installed, i disabled it, but nuthin changed. so i enabled it back. stuck. . . . . . till i figured out that terminal was staring at me!! lol. (hard to believe isnt it)

well the command to reset unity is "unity --reset"

so i ran that and it said, untiy was not installed. it was a "im so stupid moment"

so i sudo apt-get install unity, and presto unity is back, with all my settings too.


MORAL:

updates and installs can break ur unity desktop.(all u get is wallpaper)

to get it back, do Ctrl ALt T to bring up a terminal

unity --reset to restore.

if it says unity has been uninstalled, then install it back!!!

u can also just do this in the classic desktop too

LINUX FOR HUMANS

I am so so not feeling this unity thingy yet. . .

Just installed it today, and so far I am not impressed. Maybe it would grow on me before the day runs out. *sigh*

i truly doubt if u will ever like the unity interface.

just go back to the old classic interface, its still there for now

Are those screenshots from the Unity desktop?

I sorta need a PDF of some of the basic navigation commands cause most of these things slip my mind when i 'desperately' need them cc @4llerbuntu

Thanks.

nah, dts KDE (kubuntu)

and its a whole learning curve on its own, before u get ideas, bigbrovar is a power user and has been using it for years, if u join him, u on ur own

what commands? what u can do is create a wallpaper with cmds in it and use as a background.

cmds plenty guy, and depends on what is happening at any point.


dont u have user manuals and wileys linux bible? they in ur fav download sites, no be just game u go dey download all the time

4llerbuntu:
nah, dts KDE (kubuntu)

and its a whole learning curve on its own, before u get ideas, bigbrovar is a power user and has been using it for years, if u join him, u on your own

Your Post smell of FUD, First of all to anyone coming from windows, Linux the whole Linux world is a completely different ball game and learning curve. Also weather u go to Unity or gnome 3 or even XFCE, u still have to relearn everything u learnt from using the classic gnome desktop (which is nolonger supported if I might add) KDE is not any harder than using gnome 3 or Unity, I might even add that its even easier because I find most people coming from windows find kde easier to grasp than gnome. Hence which every desktop you use you are still going to relearn new things.

And if you decide to use kde, you are never on your own. Infact kde is the biggest free software community in the world, the biggest Desktop Environment on Linux. Its a great and very large community. There is always the kubuntuforms and the kubuntu irc very helpful places to get help and support.

Having said this. I would like to add that as with all newly released version of Ubuntu which takes time to settle down and be stable, Natty is not stable, there are still lots of issues and huge regressions. from the battery eating kernel bug affecting 2.6.38 kernel, to the massive regression with broadcom wireless cards causing many laptops with broadcom wireless chips to freeze and kernel panic, to random X crashes when u put the laptop on massive GPU load affecting systems with Intel graphic cards. etc I would not recommend it as of yet for anyone. Give it a month or 2 before u decide to upgrades. Most of this bugs are being worked on and some even have work around available.

nuthin like a lil KDE blurb to bait brovar,

lol, guy, HANDS IN THA AIR.

alrite o, KDE is the best, lol


e sha get learning curve like i said.

actually, v3 na my guy, so most of the stuff i wrote may look like FUD to the casual onlooker, but he understands. we go way back, na me dey try compell am to come linux sef. so i really was'nt spreading FUD, . . . . .


but . . . . . . .



brovar anyway, sup naw, stopped following ur blog for a while, is it still active?

changing modem speed

sudo gedit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh

and add one of the following lines at the very end of the file

if using an USB modem: stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
if using a serial modem: stty -F /dev/ttyS0 115200

save, and exit gedit. Next time you boot everything should be alright.



115200 may change to desirable speed

@4llerbe, what's so hard about kde? personally i think it's more like windows than gnome;
as a long time user of kde - though not kubuntu (actually it's ubuntu that got me starting to like gnome) i remember appreciating how much konqueror was like ie (pre 7) where you could use it both as a web browser and a file manager - i think you still can which can be convenient.
i have 2 major issues with kde4.x, one has to do with my hardware - nothing as sweet as bigrovars, i use a netbook and i sometimes find response a bit slow. the other is the plasma(?) toolbar; changing the color is not as simple as it was in kde3.x; why do i have to make an svgz file and modify and , why not at least include an optional feature which can help me automate it so all i have to do is select my color and it just changes?
by the way beginning from kde 4.5, kde comes also has a netbook layout -and i don't need to logout to use it either, i've attached a screenshot. when it comes to music playes i generally prefer xmms or audacious but barring that i'll go with amarok (don't like rythmbox for anything). for burning cds i'm yet to see any software that comes close to k3b on the linux end (at least in my opinion)

well since this isn't about which is better but rather about which is prefered i'll stop here but bottom line is kde's more configurable than gnome; some ot the things you can do from the system settings in kde, you might have to modify a text file to achieve from gnome
at least that's my opinion

trying to upload this screenshot but nl seems to be rejecting it
oh by the way 4llerbe what are you doing up at 4am? you no dey sleep?

bigbrovar what screenshot; looks familiar; is that chakra linux?

Hi guys,lemme me short and simple am a complete noob
to linux,I just pratice with it via VMware,but Windows got me frustrated so am getting a netbook to do some few work on the move,and I intend to install Ubuntu.will it(Ubuntu) be too heavy for Atom processors.thanx I have use Ubuntu before but that was a long while.thanx keep it up.

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hmnnn, will have to check but i think there is a specific iso for atom kernels. either way ur better off using the netbook remix. that definitely supports atom processors and since the main desktoo is in the process of being unified with netbook via unity, u wont miss anything.

@ weaver, dont mind me jo, i am a bit of an insomniac, only sleep 5 hrs daily max no matter how hard i try, nairaland is useful to kill time till daybreak.
i just dont know why kubuntu just doesnt flow with me, believe me i have tried to love it. on maverick i installed it and forced myself to use it exclusively for 2 weeks, still went back to gnome. i guess starting out on gnome is a major factor. and for me it was always weird, slight differences in terminal commands from the earlier ones i always knew, etc. and yes its like windows, which is why i really dont like it, i want difference, not a windows clone to help me feel comfortable.

bigbrovar is a massive fan of kde, its scary lolz

@pc guru
all the posts i've made on nl in fact all my internet activity in the last 11/2 years has been on my netbook; the truth is any distro will do just fine though in some cases you may have to disable graphic effects
@4llerbe like i said, i haven't used kubuntu in a long time, maybe they're much better no but i don't have the nerve to try it out at the moment - besides why would i need to types of the same version of a linux distro? if i really want to try kde on ubuntu i'll just download it using the package manager, that way if i don't like it i can always revert back to the old

Thanx a lot guys for the response as soon as i purchase a Netbook i'll install Ubuntu 11,hoping to use Aptana Studio with it.a Web Dev tool,but i might start picking up command codes fast,cuz i see so much scripting and configuring with linux.

@blackweaver

i have 2 major issues with kde4.x, one has to do with my hardware - nothing as sweet as bigrovars, i use a netbook and i sometimes find response a bit slow. the other is the plasma(?) toolbar; changing the color is not as simple as it was in kde3.x; why do i have to make an svgz file and modify and , why not at least include an optional feature which can help me automate it so all i have to do is select my color and it just changes?

Yeah I missed that feature too, and we are not alone. I am sure with time the feature would be restored.

one has to do with my hardware - nothing as sweet as bigrovars, i use a netbook and i sometimes find response a bit slow. the other is the plasma(?)

Yeah KDE is not known to be a light DE, its quite expensive on memory and cpu actually. One way u can reduce the memory and cpu demand is to disable strigi indexing. It is one of the biggest issue currently accepting kde atm. For a netbook I would recommend something based on xfce or better still lxde

bigbrovar what screenshot; looks familiar; is that chakra linux?

Its actually Kubuntu

@4llerbuntu you really don't have to beat yourself about it bro, just use what works for u and makes u productive, both kde and gnome have their use cases and fans. One thing about kubuntu is that it is mostly raw kde and does not receive as much polish as Ubuntu did to gnome (or unity) Its pretty Spartan and upstream kde. But the users is allowed to make the desktop the way there want. that process however is what many gnome users struggle with. I was a gnome user for close to 2 years during which I tried using kde for couple of times each time going back to gnome. In the end (around 2009) I decided to try and gain and have since been hooked. But again just use what works for u

men!! guya i dont tink am feeling this unity thingy oh. . . . . .anytime am on batry it drains it in no time
am tryin out d gnome to see if deres any difrence

@lynx perhaps it's the graphics effects issue; that's another thing i like about kde; you can actually use a power profile that automatically disable graphic effects once on battery power,, which reduces battery usage

lynxnoon:
men!! guya i dont tink am feeling this unity thingy oh. . . . . .anytime am on batry it drains it in no time
am tryin out d gnome to see if deres any difrence

U may be suffering from the battery drain regression bug known to affect kernel 2.6.38 its known issue that affect every distro which ships this kernel. The issue is been looked at as we speak and am sure with time a patch would be released to fix it. Its another reason why I won't recommend natty just yet. If u want something really stable. Just stick with Lucid, or better still 10.10

blackweaver:
@lynx perhaps it's the graphics effects issue; that's another thing i like about kde; you can actually use a power profile that automatically disable graphic effects once on battery power,, which reduces battery usage

bigrovar:
U may be suffering from the battery drain regression bug known to affect kernel 2.6.38 its known issue that affect every distro which ships this kernel. The issue is been looked at as we speak and am sure with time a patch would be released to fix it. Its another reason why I won't recommend natty just yet. If u want something really stable. Just stick with Lucid, or better still 10.10

well i hopedey fix it soon b4 it affects my batry
moving back to 10.10 . . . . . _{hmmmmm tempting}