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Re: Which Ten Commandments? by Nobody: 7:25pm On Jul 22, 2011
Would really like to go thru your threads
Re: Which Ten Commandments? by Image123(m): 2:40pm On Jul 23, 2011
Saw this thread then. thought i replied it, or planned to reply it. Well seeing it's come up again, let's talk about it at least for the sake of the sincere ones. The passages are clear in themselves until people begin to muddle them up. It's like two happy friends or married people, then someone comes inbetween and begins to accuse one of infidelity and other terrible things. the other loses peace, trust and confidence, begins to worry and doubt, and the relationship may end up in a divorce or in an irreparable damage to the joy they once shared. And come to think of it, the insinuations was all a lie, just like huxley's and satan's subtle lies.
  Ok to my sermon, sorry, away from my sermon. A contradiction has been imagined or conjured up where there's none. The 10 commandments are clear to all, even non religious people know them. Though there's more to God than the 10 commandments. Obviously, the whole Bible is filled with dozens of commandments from Genesis to Revelation, and they are all God's commandments to His people, all expected to be obeyed. The "10 commandments" are first contacted in Exodus 20. Here they are;

[b]1.  Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2.  Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
3.  Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
4.  Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
 Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
5.  Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
7.  Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8.  Thou shalt not steal.
9.  Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
10.  Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbor's.
[/b] EXODUS 20v3-17.

  It's interesting to note that the 2 greatest commandments are not in the above word for word. They are in another passage and book. Here they are;
Mat 22:36  Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Mat 22:37  Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38  This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39  And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
Mat 22:40  On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Here's the 'original'
Deuteronomy 6:5  And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
AND
Leviticus 19:18  Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself: I am the LORD.

All of the Bible hangs on these 2 BY THE WAY. The point been made amongst others is that no part of the Word/law was to be neglected by the Israelites. They were to obey ALL, not just the 10 commandments, whatever they are, but Genesis to the end of the Word of God. NOW, what does the Bible say about the 10 commandments?
We know from hindsight that Exodus 20v3-17 are the 10 commandments. Its good to not though that the 10 commandments were not written by God on tables of stone in Exodus 20, it was written later. It was SAID among other commands in Exodus 20.

N.B Exodus 20:1  And God spoke all these words, saying,
It was after all the speakings by God, and possibly Moses writing down all, that Moses came in Exodus 24 and SAID/rehearsed what God had SAID to the people.
Exodus 24:3  And Moses came and told the people all the words of the LORD, and all the judgments: and all the people answered with one voice, and said, All the words which the LORD hath said will we do.
Exodus 24:4  And MOSES WROTE ALL the words of the LORD, and rose up early in the morning, and built an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel.


It is after these that God told Moses to come and get the '10 commandments' in tables of stone, AMONGST other things to be said.

Exodus 24:12  And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.
Please note the "I HAVE", God had written them, and even Moses had already written them and told them to the people as shown above. God was still going to SAY many things in the many details to Moses, but He had already written the commandments, Moses was to come get them. So you see God talk different things like sacrifices, shewbread, tabernacle, altar, oil, priest, clothes etc till Exodus 32 where Moses goes back, sees the idolatry, breaks the tables, goes back to God and in Exodus 34 is given the same thing on the tables with other things SAID, some new, some expatiated, some repeated.
Exodus 34:1  And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou didst break.
The bolded is clear enough to comprehend. God wrote the same things in the first tables. He also made a covenant (Exodus 34:10  And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the LORD: for it is a terrible thing that I will do with thee.)
Please again, observe what God said, what Moses heard and wrote, and what God wrote.
Exodus 34:27  And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.
Exodus 34:28  And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

Observe the two verses and the bolded? Moses wrote the Penteteuch. God wrote on the tables, He wrote the ten commandments. Interestingly, that's the first mention of the phrase "ten commandments". God was so specific about it, He said it's the same as what's on the first. To confirm what was on the first though (the Bibles's so complete), we have Deuteronomy 5, such a clear passage.

Deu 5:6  I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Deu 5:7  Thou shalt have none other gods before me.

Deu 5:8  Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
Deu 5:9  Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deu 5:10  And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

Deu 5:11  Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Deu 5:12  Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.
Deu 5:13  Six days thou shalt labor, and do all thy work:
Deu 5:14  But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
Deu 5:15  And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.

Deu 5:16  Honor thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

Deu 5:17  Thou shalt not kill.

Deu 5:18  Neither shalt thou commit adultery.

Deu 5:19  Neither shalt thou steal.

Deu 5:20  Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbor.

Deu 5:21  Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbor's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbor's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbor's.
Deu 5:22  These words the LORD spoke unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.

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