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Stages Of Social Deception by bennyann: 7:26am On Dec 02, 2017 |
My people, my people, is this true? Oga Seun, this is a discussion you and your sons shouldn't run away from. Because nairaland is one of the greatest tools making obvious the truth in the OP. So, What's your say? Analice107 please I need your speech here. Ishilove, Pidgin2, An2elect2, Muafrika2, MsNgo40... Anything you wanna share on this? I actually got it as a Whatsapp message. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by iBlaze(m): 8:37am On Dec 02, 2017 |
I was thinking of the current tithe controversy reading this... But op, note that (generally speaking) the social 'deception', passing through all these stages, may be the right view and not necessarily a deception after all. The question now remains to know which is right or which is wrong 1 Like |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Daviddson(m): 4:47pm On Dec 02, 2017 |
Alot of truth in this post. Morality is not evolving..... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by bennyann: 4:37pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
This thread can't die like this now. There should be something to say. KingEbukasBlog, felixomor |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by GodsMopol: 6:00pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
This is a good thread I will say The part I will come in is, we all know demons and evil spirits possess the mind of people 2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; There are thoughts, imaginations,suggestions and arguments we need to shut down immediately they come across or around I have slept, only to wake up and realise, the atmosphere is heated by demonic presence and I start praying. Sis, we live in a very wicked world (1 John5:19), but Jesus told us that He has given us a mouth that our enemies can not resist nor gainsay (Luke 21:15), so death and life 3 Likes |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Nobody: 12:40am On Dec 06, 2017 |
bennyann: Hi BennyAnn, Thanks for mentioning me.... Ummm....I read through this piece, and re-read it. I don't know what to say (not sure I can confirm total truth here)...but perhaps there's some truth in it. |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Daeylar(f): 1:20am On Dec 06, 2017 |
I take it back, this article is bs What is wrong and what is right? Just because you don't agree with homosexuality does not make it wrong, Just because my mum has her views on sexuality and marriage does not make my views wrong though it may be different. As far as I'm concerned anything that doesn't directly or indirectly affect another person negatively isn't wrong We need to stop this attitude of trying to control other human beings like us under the disguise of what's right and what's wrong. It's good that Atheism and homosexuality which were previously unthinkable is now being accepted It shows that we are growing and can now think for ourselves and can question what is actually right or wrong, and decided what's wrong based on how it actually affects others not because some people don't like it. This article isn't saving anyone from social deception, it's deception itself, Cc tozara 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Nobody: 4:46am On Dec 06, 2017 |
bennyann: Very true. Homosexuality is in the final stages in Africa. It explains why gay lifestyle supporters are always pointing to how there are many gay people in "powerful" positions in the country and everywhere. I had that discussion the other day. Same case for the legalisation of prostitution. Its already accepted and legal in many western societies. And its our entire system. From rebellion towards political authority, now normalized as democracy, cultism (the human sacrifice practices), Societal break down of the social structure and rivalry between men, genders, ages (individualism and capitalism). This is why there are some people now thinking of changing the bible to make it "modern". I hear there is a gay bible, a feminist one, even free masons have their bible. Same book but conformed to what they want to hear. End times I tell you, Were in one of - if not the most - brainwashed global society . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by hopefulLandlord: 4:58am On Dec 06, 2017 |
These are also stages of Social Reformation |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by MuttleyLaff: 5:13am On Dec 06, 2017 |
bennyann: hopefulLandlord:The "subliminal message" stage is in the forefront of all in that OP list 2 Likes |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by hopefulLandlord: 6:25am On Dec 06, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: I mean those are the stages used for "good" things too, OP just used examples of things he doesn't like but let's switch the example to something else, like slavery or (to avoid arguments) Killing of twins; I visit a society where they kill twins and see it as good and I want them to stop it...... The SHOCKER- I tell them "It is totally wrong to kill twins! They're humans like us!!" The OUTRAGE stage - HopefulLandlord would be demonized and abused by the bewildered public for going against what their "Oracle" laid out for them as instructions on what to do with twins The DISCUSSION stage - People start slamming non killing of twins and giving their good (albeit weak) arguments for killing twins while having most (read:all) their points debunked by me, I would always visit the shrines where these children are killed to argue and encourage people to do the same, This is the stage at which science kicks in to ‘prove’ that Twins are just like everyone else The TOLERANCE stage - people will start saying “I am not going to let any twin grow up in my own family but if anyone else chooses to do the opposite, shauri yake (that’s his problem). Others will say: “Who cares what people do with their own life?” The ACCEPTANCE stage - This is the part where letting twins live like everyone else becomes an alternative way of life, I've gathered enough following and we've coined the term "TWINOPHOBIA" to describe those that are still following the Oracle's instructions on killing of twins; I try to get lawmakers into making a law against killing of twins without the consent of their parents The VENERATION stage - This is the stage at which the people who do not practice killing of twins are praised. The liberalist media (which includes almost all international channels) subtly promotes them as ‘cool’, intelligent, exposed. That’s the stage at which celebrities ‘come out’ to reveal that they are ‘proud not to be killing twins’. 8 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by MuttleyLaff: 8:03am On Dec 06, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:In the 21st century modern age, the stages are ALL first with the "subliminal message" agenda. Say for example, if the principal agenda is to make bestiality, as in having sex with animals, socially acceptable, then you'll find that the powers to be in the media, will start pushing to show advertisements on TV channels' programmes' break human beings and animals performing the act together. This will be introduced in short and subtle ways, so the SHOCKER and OUTRAGE stages' threshold or mark are not overstepped Now because of/through the subliminal messages sent, seen, heard or watched through commercials, movies, billboard adverts, people subconsciously get used to the idea, after subconsciously gotten introduced to the idea, then possibly start to openly discuss it, next possibly tolerate it, then possibly accept it, before possibly and ultimately venerate those that practice it, as it has come to stay and is the "it thing" to do 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Tozara(m): 8:12am On Dec 06, 2017 |
Replace homosexuality/bestiality with FEMINISM or some other human rights movement and the house of cards comes collapsing in on itself! There's no RIGHT or WRONG in NATURE. So, that being the case, how do we determine what is right and what is wrong? By consulting the "word of God", or deciding among ourselves using criteria that favour EVERYONE? Which shall it be? 3 Likes |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Tozara(m): 8:25am On Dec 06, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:Haha! You have DESTROYED this thread. We need "social deception" to smash every stone, marble, pillar, pearl and pyramid of CONSERVATISM and rigid systems established by people of the past that oppress certain minority groups in the present day. I do not care if something is a "natural aberration" or not! Physical cosmology IS a "natural aberration"---The Moon Landing IS a "natural aberration". Our evolution and the empires it has produced are "natural aberrations"! 5 Likes |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Daeylar(f): 8:33am On Dec 06, 2017 |
Tozara: Don't worry I got it now. They've still not answered me on why their God would create homosexuals (since he doesn't like them and he is the creator of everything) who he knows (since he is ominieverything and can see the future) would struggle through life and would eventually end up in hell. Seems like god is just using us for his pleasure. Like a sick twisted game 1 Like |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Tozara(m): 8:44am On Dec 06, 2017 |
Daeylar:The very idea of Omniscience is the strongest case against Christianity. It destroys it COMPLETELY, makes its God more petty than the concept of pettiness, and reveals that his inventors must have taken too much magic mushrooms. Using Omniscience as a weapon to back one's case is an attack no army of Christians or theists can repel. It breaks through their ranks, encircles their regiment as it crushes their defences from the rear, and destroys their battle tanks with astonishing rapidity and unprecendented fire power, before downing their Jets with the missiles of death. I wonder how the infinite power of the cosmos would be so PATHOLOGICALLY OBSESSED with what the inhabitants of an insignificant planet (that is practically NON-EXISTENT in relation to the rest of the universe) do with their genitaliã (especially when he had FORESEEN it!). Incredibly absurd! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by MuttleyLaff: 8:49am On Dec 06, 2017 |
Daeylar:You have got nada Daeylar:You've asked an invalid question because God did not create homosexuals Why not try answering this question below: Why are all my texts in this post in color yellow? Daeylar:We are all created for His pleasure, never like a sick twisted game 3 Likes |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by fellowman: 8:54am On Dec 06, 2017 |
Anyone who thinks tithing is right or Okay should come here and debate me. I'm waiting. https://www.nairaland.com/4215508/tithing-not-eternal-principle |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Daeylar(f): 9:05am On Dec 06, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: Oooooooooooowieee. Damn You've asked an invalid question Are you denying your God now? "Colossians 1:16 - For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." Isaiah 42:5 - Thus says God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which comes out of it; he that gives breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein Is this not from your Bible? Why not try answering this question below: What is the relevance of this question? And they are not yellow We are all created for His pleasure, never like a sick twisted game It becomes a sick twisted game when he says he hates homosexuality and they would all burn in hell, but them keeps creating them knowing quite well that they will burn in hell since 1) he created them and made the rules which makes homosexuality evil. 2) he is ominieverything. (never forget) 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Daeylar(f): 9:08am On Dec 06, 2017 |
Tozara: Lol, I think the people that wrote the bible were doing too much and on such a high because they knew they could control everybody with the bible they were writting that they became careless and didn't take time to really look at what they were writing "The very idea of Omniscience is the strongest case against Christianity. It destroys it COMPLETELY, makes its God more petty than the concept of pettiness, and reveals that his inventors must have taken too much magic mushrooms. " This is nothing but the truth Lol, more petty than the concept of pettiness and too much magic mushrooms |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by MuttleyLaff: 9:24am On Dec 06, 2017 |
Daeylar:You sound like someone trying to read a music sheet but you havent a clue how to read music, talkless understand it Daeylar:Exactly they are not in yellow. Why arent they yellow? It is because I didnt create my text in color yellow It might come out yellow by some external means, but it certainly wasnt done yellow by me The relevance of the question is: I just asked you an invalid question right up there, just like you did about why did God create homosexuals, to show you how irrelevant your question is Daeylar:Again young blood, God did not create homosexuals 2 Likes |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Daeylar(f): 9:41am On Dec 06, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff:Ah the Nigerian method at work, Insult the person when you can't handle the argument, I don't entertain such. Evasion tactics won't work, What is written in those verses? What did you write? Now reconcile both. Exactly they are not in yellow I'm glad you know it was irrelevant. just like you did about why did God create homosexuals, to show you how irrelevant your question isIt's a valid relevant question. Why did God create homosexuals? Again young blood, God did not create homosexuals I deal with facts, Show me where God did not create homosexuals. When you're ready to deal with facts and argue without throwing insults just because you lost the argument, you can come back. 2 Likes |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by NightHound(m): 9:54am On Dec 06, 2017 |
I don't know if I would agree with the term social "deception". If something can be adopted by culture through introduction and debate, then it only shows once again that nothing which exists is inherently good or bad, but is only perceived as good or bad depending on how we are affected by it. Because we are the center of our own universe at this moment in time, good or bad is defined by how it affects us either as individuals or as a collective race. That is how laws are made, they are humanocentric. From our perspective, the killing of a chicken, for instance, is not considered evil if it provides food for human beings. If our perception gives quality and value to specific actions instead of the action having its own absolute and independent value, then its value cannot be permanent. And that is because human perception is fickle changes over time as the picture of the world becomes clearer to us. The aspects of conservative culture have been ratified in society by the same fickle perception which now ratifies elements of liberal culture. The reluctance to accept certain things by the conservative mind is due to his refusal to accept the broader perspectives that technological advancement allows, and not because something is inherently bad. Nothing is inherently bad. Murder, for instance, is perceived to be bad because it threatens human life. If that were not the case, there would be no sense in banning murder, and it wouldn't be bad. Homosexuality is perceived to be a threat to the perpetuation of the human race, but it is not. And it is in proving that something does not affect us negatively (or threaten our existence) either as individuals or as a race, that the essence of discussion lies. And once proven, perception changes and ratifies actions. With tech advancement, homosexual couples have found ways to contribute to procreation. And people have recognized the hypocrisy of denying same-sex parents the opportunity to raise children, when children are being raised in homes where there's a single parent or where there is disaccord in a traditional setting - where the quality of care cannot be measured and compared explicitly. So, if we cannot say how it threatens us, how can we keep qualifying something as bad when there is no inherent value to begin with? You're right about the stages (progression) of shock to veneration (or acceptance at least). But it isn't deception. It's just a re-evaluation of our reality through perception. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by MuttleyLaff: 10:33am On Dec 06, 2017 |
Daeylar:Here was I thinking you were innocently ignorant but little did I know, you stereotype Nigerians, insult Nigerians, and that you're prejudiced towards them too Daeylar:SMH, maybe I am singing from a different hymm-sheet that yours, as I don't see any of those verses stating that God created homosexuals Daeylar:Daeylar, reiterating, exactly my texts are not in yellow. Why arent they yellow? It is because I didnt create my texts in color yellow It might come out yellow due to some external means, but it certainly wasnt done yellow by me The relevance of my question is: I just asked you an invalid question right up there, just like you did about why did God create homosexuals, to show you how irrelevant your question is Daeylar:I already told you that God created human beings and not homosexuals. Daeylar:Please kindly show when, where and how insults were thrown at you, otherwise retract your accusations and spare me your drama or tantrums 3 Likes |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Humanistme: 11:23am On Dec 06, 2017 |
NightHound: makes sense 2 Likes |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Nobody: 6:17pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Daeylar: Before we can argue God created homosexuals, we have to first find out if people are born that way? Also, you never told me what i did wrong, you promised to tell.... |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Daeylar(f): 6:40pm On Dec 06, 2017 |
Blackfyre: All right dear I will in another thread. 1 Like |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Daeylar(f): 6:47am On Dec 15, 2017 |
Re: Stages Of Social Deception by Nobody: 8:19am On Dec 15, 2017 |
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