Joey82:

HAH are u serious at all.
u want of give a lecture here and u are worried about your security.
I thought the beauty of this forum is that it keeps u ananymos.
so what are u afraid of?

He is afraid of the KHALIFAH mod on nairaland. Life ban.!

Afro_Blue: another viewpoint


ROBBING PETER MALI TO PAY PAUL GERMANY

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/robmalipaygermany.php


The German government started demanding their physical gold to be repatriated back to Germany from both the Bank of France and the New York Federal Reserve. Germany demanded all of the 374 tons of gold held by the Bank of France, but only 300 tons of the 1500 tons of bullion held by the New York Federal Reserve. Both the Bank of France and the New York Federal Reserve have stated that the process of returning the gold will take years, five years for the French gold, and seven for the gold coming from the New York Federal Reserve. The delay makes the situation clear. Neither the Bank of France nor the New York Federal Reserve actually have the gold Germany deposited, sending tungsten fakes back to the very nation that first spotted the fraud is risky, the France and the United States are scrambling to find replacement gold.

Which brings us to Mali.

Mali is one of the world's largest gold producers. Together with neighboring Ghana they account for 7-8% of world gold output. That makes them a rich prize for nations desperate for real physical gold. So, even as Germany started demanding their gold back from the Bank of France and the New York Federal Reserve, France (aided by the US) decided to invade Mali to fight "Islamists" working for "Al Qaeda." Of course, "Islamists" has become the catch-all label for people that need to be killed to get them out of the way of the path to riches, and the people being bombed by France (aided by the US) are not "Al Qaeda" but Tawariqs, who have been fighting for their independence for 150 years, long before the CIA created "Al Qaeda". Left to themselves, the Tawariqs could sell gold to whoever they want for whatever they want, and right now China can outbid the US and France.

Very interesting angle. Just googled it. I have seriously been wondering why france suddenly rushed into mali and still making swift moves to deploy more troops. Now that's a very probable angle. Thanks for the enlightenement. Anyone else with another angle, lets hear it.

@Hah, well done for ur input, though we shall like to know more.

check this out too.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.php

Quite lenghty but veeeeeeeeery interesting read. Watch and see US and UK join the tea party albeit discreetly Africa don suffer and the leaders are spineless morons. Like I have said severally on this forum, Ghaddaffi was set up pure and simple. No justification for any of his 'alleged 'actions, but this is all about the benjies!

And before some people crucify me first, add this to the read to get some background.
http://www.whale.to/b/shaylergate.html

Google 'Shaylergate' to get more info.

French troops are at war in northern Mali, but it's not clear what is actually happening because journalists have been denied access. For many years, Mali had been a model for press freedom in Africa.

Normally, neither side in a conflict is interested in a neutral coverage of events on the battlefield. Mali is no exception. A journalist wanting to report from the warzone has a tough time of it there.

As Marc Dugge, a radio correspondent for the ARD (Germany's public broadcaster) headed for the warzone, he was stopped 100 kilometers (62 miles) from the front. "We have orders not to let reporters through," a soldier in uniform explained, adding "especially, no whites."

Julien Sauvaget, a journalist at news channel France24, has reported similar obstacles.

"The colleagues from Al Jazeera and Reuters had their cameras taken away for several hours in the capital Bamako," he said. "That is an indication that they want to restrict free reporting."

Limited movement

Reporters Without Borders (RWB) actively supports efforts around the world for media and information freedom.

"The situation for journalists is one of very restricted movement. They can only move around in the south of the country where the transitional government is in power and has the control," said Christoph Dreyer, RWB's Africa specialist.

Both the transitional government and the French military are preventing journalists from reaching the war zone.
The French military has kept journalists at arm's length

Of course, some journalists have tried to get to the northern part of Mali on their own. But that is extremely dangerous. The situation in the area is unclear and difficult to judge. The Islamist rebels in the region are deeply divided, and Western reporters can easily be taken as hostages or simply murdered as representatives of the enemy.

At the moment, it is next to impossible to draw any independent conclusions about the situation, according to Dreyer. The lack of access leaves journalists having to depend on information from the parties involved in the conflict.

"We are asking that the safety and security of journalists be guaranteed. They must be allowed to work unhindered and move freely throughout the country," he said.

From model to 'problem child'

Not long ago, Mali was considered a model for press freedom in Africa. There were more than 130 local radio stations, some 30 weekly newspapers, and half a dozen dailies. "The press was able to work freely for a long time," Dreyer noted.

But in March 2012, the army overthrew the government of President Amadou Toumani Touré.

"Since then, press freedom has been constantly thwarted. Journalists have been threatened, even kidnapped, editorial staff have been wiretapped and editors and informants called in for interrogation," Dreyer said.

"There have also been armed attacks on radio stations. Several reporters were kidnapped, beaten and seriously injured," he added.
Armies don't 'jump for joy' when journalists want information

In the middle of last year, Mali's journalists finally held a protest and stopped working for a day. "Unfortunately, the transitional government so far has done absolutely nothing to defend press freedom, and that is not a good omen for the future," Dreyer said.

The Islamist rebels in the north, of course, also have no interest in independent reporting. Many northern Mali journalists, fearing reprisals, have fled to the south.

Advantages for foreigners

At least in the case of foreign journalists the situation appears to be easing somewhat, France24's Sauvaget said. "That's mostly because the media organizations have applied a lot of pressure," he added. But there are still reservations.

It is getting easier to get closer to soldiers and get information, pictures and interviews from the French and Malian armies.

"All armies are like that. None of them jump for joy when journalists want something. They say it's an issue of security, but it is clear that they also would like to control the flow of information," Sauvaget explained.

That may not be as easy nowadays in the Internet age, but that doesn't keep them from trying.

http://www.dw.de/how-independent-is-the-reporting-in-mali/a-16534058

Everyone's gathering for spoils of war on African soil. There will be varying justifications for different countries to enter this war. The Malian conflict has no end in sight as there will definitely be ripple effect.

http://www.dw.de/opinion-mali-concerns-everyone/a-16531245

Opinion: Mali concerns everyone!

European military trainers are working with the army in Mali and Germany is to dispatch two cargo planes. But Germany will have to get more involved, says DW editor-in-chief, Ute Schaeffer.


Ute Schaeffer, DW chief editor

At last, there's a European consensus: 250 military instructors are to train Malian soldiers and prepare them for the fight against the Islamists. It's taken months for Europe to reach this decision - meanwhile, Islamists were imposing Sharia law and spreading fear and terror throughout the villages in the north of Mali. Over the last few months, the people of Mali have had to endure murder, mutilations, torture, executions, rape and plunder. And Mali was always regarded as a tolerant country which was a model of democratic development.

Politics no longer had an adequate answer for this kind of violence. The French were the ones who recognized this, while the rest of Europe gazed at its navel and worried about decision-making processes. In addition: the French public backs this mission, which is sanctioned by its European neighbors and the United Nations.

Mali isn't just another state in the desert

And Germany? In an election year, politicians would prefer to avoid the topic. They fear a debate in the media and the German public - another reason why the government has so far only dispatched two cargo planes. Any large scale mission would have to be backed by parliament - and that would make it a hot topic for both media and public.

On the other hand: Perhaps this is a debate that cannot be avoided. Perhaps we should just be bolder in dealing with it. Almost a quarter of a century after German reunification, at a time of asymmetric conflicts with global implications, there's a need for a German contribution to international security in Africa too.

But we find it hard to deal with our neighbors to the south. We don't know enough about them. For the German media, Mali is just some state in the Sahel region.

Yet Mali has the potential to turn into bomb under the whole region: should Mali fall, the Sahel goes up in flames - and that's a region that Germany, too, should finally realize is one of its immediate neighbors.

Mali is a huge country, with borders to seven states, many of which must be regarded as fragile and which are plagued by similar problems: poverty, inadequate government institutions, terrorist groups and organized crime.

Two things need to be noted: the risks of military engagement are high - especially for the French troops on the ground, together with the 3,300 soldiers of the ECOWAS West African community of states. But the risks of not doing anything decisive now are even more serious. The hostage-taking at a natural-gas field in the south of Algeria is a sign of that. It was probably organized by the Maghreb branch of Al Qaeda, which is demanding an end to the French military mission.

Wait-and-see is the worst of all solutions

Does Europe want to stand by and watch as tolerant Mali is turned into an Islamist theocracy? Does anyone seriously believe that waiting, hesitating, and turning a blind eye will solve the problem? European foreign politicians and the intelligence services know better. Africa has the potential to develop a belt of Islamist terror, spanning from the south of Algeria and Mauritania via Mali and Niger to northern Nigeria.

So far, the local Islamist groups have not coordinated their operations and there's been little networking. But that could change if they get the chance. It's therefore important to deprive them of possibilities to retreat and regroup. Their links have to be broken and the sources of their income have to be cut off.

That's exactly what military intervention now can deliver. And that's why Germany, too, should step up its support. What's happening in Mali concerns everyone - it's not just an African problem.

What is needed is a commitment that is bold and long-term - a mission which will help to create a secure environment for citizens, prevent a humanitarian catastrophe and then create allow a return to normality. Otherwise the danger remains that terror groups in the Sahel might team up with radical Islamists in East Africa - in the Horn of Africa and Kenya - with devastating consequences for European and global security.

Pangea: What do you mean we can't?
Even Britain and US are sitting this one out, helping only with logistics and drones.
Why should we be the one spilling our guts on a god forsaken desert?

ohh, Got this late......seems u already gat ur answer!!!

When those dudes re done with Mali....they coming straight for us...U kno.... West Africa things!!!

We rather take the fight to them instead of 'em coming for us!!