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Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Nobody: 7:03pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Nobody: 7:11pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Nobody: 7:23pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Goshen360(m): 7:37pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Nice video Frosbel. |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:12pm On Jan 26, 2013 |
All this effort to stop Christians going to church? I did a search and came up with the root cause of this heretical teaching and found out that it is called Spirit and Truth international which is a splinter group of a popular Cult organisation called the Way International. Wolves in sheep clothing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_International#Criticism_and_cult_allegations
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Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Nobody: 9:22pm On Jan 26, 2013 |
^^ Trust a cult member to defend his cult. The video in no way discourages fellowshipping in larger congregations, it simply defines exactly what church means and reinforces the truth that Christians do not have to meet in large groups. Summary : We can meet in 2s or 3s or in smaller groups, in the home, work place or even market square "For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them." - Matthew 18:20 2 Likes |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:27pm On Jan 26, 2013 |
frosbel: I have read the history of the cult you are following in the suggested link (wikipedia) above, or are you here to defend it? |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Nobody: 9:38pm On Jan 26, 2013 |
^^^^ Oh dear, true to form , deeperlife members show their inate ability to slander anyone who leaves their closed cult. I am not a member of the way international or truth or tradition, I attend a church in my locality which thank God is not the deeperlife cult. However , I find many of the articles on the truth or tradition web site truly revealing and refreshing. |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:15pm On Jan 26, 2013 |
frosbel: ^^^^ You may like to think that you are not a member of the Way international but if where you attend now believes and teaches what they teach you may as well count yourself as part of them. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then its most likely to be a duck, don't you think? |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Nobody: 10:19pm On Jan 26, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU: You have added false witnessing and lying to your hobby of slander , first off, I am only realizing that truthortradition broke away from way international due to some scandals etc, which is a good thing , no ? Secondly, I never agree with anyone 100% , I follow my bible closely nowadays. Keep up with your slander and false witnessing, SATAN must be proud I suggest you listen to the message and stop attacking unrelated or disconnected people. |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:43pm On Jan 26, 2013 |
frosbel: "Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone" (Hosea 4:17). I think the time has come for me to leave you alone to your deeds and to follow you with prayer trusting the Lord to deal with you in His own time if its not to late, for He is longsuffering.
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Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Nobody: 10:57pm On Jan 26, 2013 |
^^^ Keep your advice to yourself. God knows those who are his. Now stop derailing this beautiful thread. |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:28pm On Jan 26, 2013 |
frosbel: ^^^ Of cause the advice is for me. Here is another one our Lord Jesus Christ gave to His disciples in reference to the hypocritical Pharisees of His own day: "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch" (Matthew 15:14). I'll leave you with your blind followers until y'all fall into the ditch.
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Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Goshen360(m): 12:54am On Jan 27, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU: All this effort to stop Christians going to church? I did a search and came up with the root cause of this heretical teaching and found out that it is called Spirit and Truth international which is a splinter group of a popular Cult organisation called the Way International. Wolves in sheep clothing. Bro Ola, I can't remember where Frosbel said people should not go to church. We are the church and we only gather together not forsaking the assembly of ourselves (as church). I think it is wrong for you say out-rightly that the video or Frosbel meant to stop Christians from going to church. Just my little observation though |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Joagbaje(m): 4:58am On Jan 27, 2013 |
frosbel: ^^ The church has structure. Spiritually and in leadership. Two or three people gathering does not constitute a local assembly. Family prayer is still christian fellowship, colleague meeting at lunch hour in the office is still christian fellowship but it doesn't constitute a local church. |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by PastorKun(m): 8:10am On Jan 27, 2013 |
Joagbaje: Abi oh the local church must not be done away with or how else would the likes of Oyaks be able to accumulate billions from church members. Meanwhile uncle Joe how are you preparing for first fruit sunday? is it today or next week sunday in your church? I am sure mega bucks would have started rolling in by now as some companies have started paying January salary. Any which way sha Maga must pay. |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Enigma(m): 10:15am On Jan 27, 2013 |
It is all well and good to say the church should have 'structure'; but it is pitiful to be flippant and dismissive of Jesus' words that where two or three are gathered in His name there He is in their midst. For example, I see a reference to "the local church"? OK then: which is 'the local church' in Yaba or Ikeja or Ikoyi? And what is a "local assembly"? When two or three gather together, why is that not a "local assembly"? Do the different denominations and abominations holding different church services at the same time on the same street even sometimes in different parts of the same building ------ more importantly never coming together and worse even competing with one another --- amount to a "local church"? Digression: Meanwhile @frosbel Here on this thread you are saying some people are in a cult; whereas only a few hours earlier you had yourself said that the Pentecostal movement attacks those opposed to them by calling them cults. https://www.nairaland.com/1171911/it-true-man-christ-not/5#14022724 Interesting. 3 Likes |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Nobody: 1:36pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Enigma: I would not like to generalize the Pentecostal movement, maybe I used the word too loosely. There are still many good ministries out there that I listen to , learn from , and would want to fellowship with. However, I have had some pretty bad experiences in some churches that like to call others cults, when in fact they possess more of the attributes and character of a cult. 2 churches I attended for instance , who are experts in calling others cults , had the following traits : - They had a supreme leader who they looked up to, emulated and copied. - You contest one doctrine and you cannot be a worker , your membership will also be suspect - You leave the church and you lose all your friends and brethren on advice from church leadership - They have a dress code which members are expected to adhere to - To act and think like a Berean makes you a dangerous person - They sever ties between you and your blood relatives - Insist on not taking medicine in some cases , which has caused the death of many members ( yet they call JW a cult for refusing blood transfusion ) Many more to list, let me end here. For cults who exhibit these traits to call other 'churches' cults , is the epitome of hypocrisy and Phariseeism . 1 Like |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by PastorKun(m): 3:17pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Pastor Kun: Uncle Joe we are still awaiting your testimony oo! How much first fruits were you able to rake in today? Hope you were able to meet your target |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Nobody: 3:39pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Ubenedictus(m): 5:41pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Joagbaje:intarasting, but i'd rather sit and watch. |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:42pm On Jan 28, 2013 |
Goshen360: Get the true meaning of Church from these articles. Question: "What is the difference between the universal church and local church?" http://www.gotquestions.org/universal-local-church.html http://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-the-church.html |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:49pm On Jan 28, 2013 |
Enigma: It is all well and good to say the church should have 'structure'; but it is pitiful to be flippant and dismissive of Jesus' words that where two or three are gathered in His name there He is in their midst. I hope these links addressess your objections. http://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-the-church.html http://www.gotquestions.org/universal-local-church.html |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:03pm On Jan 28, 2013 |
Joagbaje: Good point. God isn't a God of confusion but of orderliness and decency. The "two and three gathering" can also be in houses which is usually called house churches, the likes that occur in underground churches. These are also local churches. "Let all things be done decently and in order" (1 Corinthians 14:40). |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:22pm On Jan 28, 2013 |
frosbel: The fact that you had problems with the churches you attended does not give you the right to instigate others to oppose this injunction: "Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation" (Hebrews 13:7). |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Nobody: 4:04pm On Jan 28, 2013 |
OLAADEGBU: Another misrepresentation of my position, but then again what is new with you these days . I know how painful it is when former members leave your church, since you think you have the edge when it comes to truth. Funny enough, most of my experiences emanated from your cult. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:05pm On Jan 28, 2013 |
Decently And In Order What the heretics on this thread prays for is the death of this "organism" |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Nobody: 4:15pm On Jan 28, 2013 |
"I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable, and teaching you publicly and from house to house" Acts 20:20 "Aquila and Prisca greet you heartily in the Lord, with the church that is in their house ." 1 Cor. 16:19 15 Please give my greetings to our Christian brothers and sisters* at Laodicea, and to Nympha and those who meet in her house .- Colossians 4:15 and to our sister Apphia and to Archippus, a fellow soldier of the cross. I am also writing to the church that meets in your house - Philemon 2 40 Paul and Silas then returned to the home of Lydia, where they met with the believers and encouraged them once more before leaving town - Acts 16:40 5 Please give my greetings to the church that meets in their home. Greet my dear friend Epenetus. He was the very first person to become a Christian in the province of Asia - Romans 16:5 Appears Paul disagrees with you Ola OLAADEGBU: "I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable, and teaching you publicly and from house to house" Acts 20:20 "Aquila and Prisca greet you heartily in the Lord, with the church that is in their house ." 1 Cor. 16:19 15 Please give my greetings to our Christian brothers and sisters* at Laodicea, and to Nympha and those who meet in her house .- Colossians 4:15 and to our sister Apphia and to Archippus, a fellow soldier of the cross. I am also writing to the church that meets in your house - Philemon 2 40 Paul and Silas then returned to the home of Lydia, where they met with the believers and encouraged them once more before leaving town - Acts 16:40 5 Please give my greetings to the church that meets in their home. Greet my dear friend Epenetus. He was the very first person to become a Christian in the province of Asia - Romans 16:5 Appears Paul disagrees with you Ola 2 Likes |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Nobody: 8:27pm On Jan 28, 2013 |
Case closed!! |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:39pm On Jan 28, 2013 |
frosbel: Case closed!! You wished. |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by Joagbaje(m): 8:45pm On Jan 28, 2013 |
frosbel: "I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable, and teaching you publicly and from house to house" Acts 20:20 I don't see contradictions. People had church services in their houses as venues . Acuila and Priscilla were both pastors who had a church in their house . That's a local assembly. People had services in different places. In the church globally and locally there is structure of spiritual leadership . The pastoral office feed ,corrects and disciplines. But your idea of 2 or 3 friends coming together defeat s the church structure of discipline and leadership and submission to authority. |
Re: Let's Get Together! Hebrews 10:25 Let's Not Give Up Meeting Together by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:17pm On Jan 28, 2013 |
frosbel: There is no hiding from the fact that you detest submission to leadership in all its ramifications as this article depicts: Those Who Rule Over You Spiritual rebels will always expose themselves for what they are. |
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